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mp_en_viaje: nobody's about to order anyone to document all the water -- and by this i mean, asciilifeform ain't gonna send himself on such foolish errands, nor you, nor anyone else. let the water be.

mp_en_viaje: the nightmare was that i had ordered her to document all the water.

mp_en_viaje: at t5, yet another fellow has the choice of whether to follow F's chain, or R's chain, or the A-Q-G-B-N-I chain or so following.

mp_en_viaje: At t2, there is a patch upon t0#t0, transforming gns to a1->b1 ; manifest becomes #t1. this is signed by A, Q, G, B, N, I.

mp_en_viaje: as it stands, i also do not see a problem with the same one key signing whatever count of ~compatible~ versions of the universe, where the key's to define what compatible actually means, following therefrom that there's exactly jack shit one can systematically do by looking at the totalized pile of keys signatures and possibilities. (the familiar will readily recognize a pattern here).

a111: Logged on 2019-05-03 22:21 asciilifeform: Mocky: re vpatches -- as i understand, the contemplated structure is a linear chain, and 'siblings' could only occur in event of schisms/civil war , rather than as a regular thing

mp_en_viaje: (in particular http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1911102 is at best naive : if you insist that my key does not sign competing chains [which is not even necessarily a bad idea] i will simply make ~multiple keys~, which will each sign whichver chain i wish to sign for whatever reason, and which will pass the "omg civil war" safeguard while achieving exactly no satisfaction of the bijection contemplated -- they'll still be my keys, one and all.) ☝︎☟︎

Mocky: Maybe my prior comments were too abrasive / snarky making it difficult to engage, if so that's on me. Or maybe I just don't understand. Either way there's no point me trying to continue with the content of an argument that no one can engage with.

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1911102 << i guess I don't have the priors to understand the contemplated structure. I'm not sure how to reconcile the obvious linear chain with: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1911020 ☝︎☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-03 22:19 asciilifeform: Mocky: iirc mircea_popescu's scheme centers around a return to the good ol' days when ~all~ names could be found on a given machine's /etc/hosts (or equiv.) -- so one ~could~ in principle use a very slow mechanism to sync'em, and it'll still work in practice. ( tho i also would rather avoid cementing tcpisms into future design of whatever type )

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1911101 << I also would rather avoid cementing tcpisms into future design of whatever type, which is why I bring it up ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: to put in in those terms, the problem ain't so much that i didn't read what you said ; the problem's rather that nor i nor anyone else seems to know ~know~ how to read it.

mp_en_viaje: in any case i'd say just about any single implication you propose doesn't follow. elementarily different people having differing views of a patchset on the basis of their seals works just fine with manifest files as without. and so on.

mp_en_viaje: e this situation therefore i say "apparent unfamiliarity".

mp_en_viaje: mkay, the breakage here's more than i know how to readily address.

asciilifeform: i.e. an object moar resembling trinque's wot db than a http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=experimental affair

asciilifeform: Mocky: re vpatches -- as i understand, the contemplated structure is a linear chain, and 'siblings' could only occur in event of schisms/civil war , rather than as a regular thing ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: Mocky: iirc mircea_popescu's scheme centers around a return to the good ol' days when ~all~ names could be found on a given machine's /etc/hosts (or equiv.) -- so one ~could~ in principle use a very slow mechanism to sync'em, and it'll still work in practice. ( tho i also would rather avoid cementing tcpisms into future design of whatever type ) ☟︎

Mocky: and i can also expand later on what's with the 'connecting', tcp? and what's with the directories, protocol on top of tcp? I'm hoping that its figurative and you don't literally want to build gns on tcp and http

Mocky: I don't have time to expand now before I go, but i can expand later.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-03 12:18 mp_en_viaje: Mocky, i dunno what you mean. it almost reads like you're talking from a complete unfamiliarity with V altogether. what do you mean even, "press multiple heads AT THE SAME TIME". any v tree permits any v operator the choice of where the fuck to press to. if the tree is 1->2->3 you can choose to press to 1, 2 or 3. this is not "at the same time".

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1911019 << I stated my assumption, for confirmation, that you can't press to both heads, and you answered with "why not?", and I followed up with 'what would that even look like?' I stated in two different ways that I'm talking about sibling patches with the same parent, not 1->2->3. did you even read what i wrote? ☝︎

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910411 << i'm back from a head clearing trip (went to st. petersburg after georgia), so i ought to be back to doing things ☝︎

asciilifeform: i would like to link to this , for instance , and am stuck w/ pastetronics.

mp_en_viaje: maybe it really is a brothel ; i doubt it tho, looked like slightly ditzy run of the mill.

mp_en_viaje stopped at "Public House" 4 star hotel earlier walking about. "i don't think they know what public house means", quoth i to my girls. "of course we do!" quoth reception desk gal.

mp_en_viaje: i am beginning to suspect so!

a111: Logged on 2019-05-03 08:18 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1910992 << what exactly can possibly prevent you from keeping retarded dns if that;s what you want ? i mean, just because i'm not stuck editing /etc/hosts by hand all the time does it mean anything about that ?

mp_en_viaje: but so far -- as i remember. the females are brave, the males inconsequential.

mp_en_viaje: i just got here aite!

BingoBoingo: Aite, I can see how whaack kept on the German chicks

diana_coman: bleah, burtoi pe popice ce-i ala

diana_coman: and the contents of the manifest file itself are obtained from pressing a tree so it's not like you get mismatch tree <-> manifest and a tangle or I don't see it

diana_coman: and a sig on a patch to my mind can't anyway be in isolation like that, "just this patch here is fine but I have no idea of what is being patched"

diana_coman: i.e. manifest is a history with dates but not some prescription re patching

diana_coman: fwiw I don't get what the issue is there and what does the manifest have to do with anything

mp_en_viaje: whichever way this is turned, i dun manage to see what the problem is.

mp_en_viaje: indeed, if the set of signatures in your seals dir signs a bunch of different possible trees, the situation becomes ambiguous. i was saying, i don't think this is a problem at all (if for no other reason, then because either the user cares or doesn't care. if he does care he can just sign whichever he prefers, then put his own signature in the seals and presto. if he does not care then he doesn't care.)

mp_en_viaje: Mocky, i dunno what you mean. it almost reads like you're talking from a complete unfamiliarity with V altogether. what do you mean even, "press multiple heads AT THE SAME TIME". any v tree permits any v operator the choice of where the fuck to press to. if the tree is 1->2->3 you can choose to press to 1, 2 or 3. this is not "at the same time". ☟︎

Mocky: i'm off to kick some ass and take some names, bbl

Mocky: so re your patches example, if patch 2 & 3 both declare patch 1 as parent, and I have wot keys for all a - f, I can't press to both heads correct?

mp_en_viaje: -- not lik i read email anyway.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1910992 << what exactly can possibly prevent you from keeping retarded dns if that;s what you want ? i mean, just because i'm not stuck editing /etc/hosts by hand all the time does it mean anything about that ? ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-03 04:27 Mocky: I see embrace and extinguish as more appropriate for dns destruction (ala a dnsmasq-esque approach) than isolated bunkers. I mean, i could have joined up with republic prime instead, but they already completed work on gns prime, and maybe they passed out ip based links for a while, but eventually pulled up the ladders to their tree forts and now they can't even be found. So who knows if republic prime or double prime even exists.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1910988 << i dunno wtf "isolated bunkers" are yo utalking about anyways ? ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1910987 > i haven't used civillian dns for what, two years now. i dont' care to, either. this usecase is massively more important than "fetlife slut". for one thing, fetlife slut ain't reading anything anyway ; for the other thing, nothing forces you to limit yourself to gns if you don't want to. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: this produces what looks like a potential problem, in that we'll end up with ambiguous multireferences to same name. i believe this is no problem at all, but merely a licked tooth, and should be kept as such.

mp_en_viaje: whereas someone who has only b should patch, i suppose, on both 2 and 3.

a111: Logged on 2019-05-03 03:18 Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-24#1874402 << this suggests that each key holder can only host $key/gns at one ip address. And what about vpatch ordering and the v manifest file? If i have an entry for archive.is and want to change that entry, I can't just make and sign a patch of my own, i have to patch on top of the 'consensus' press, otherwise manifest won't match and can't press multiple heads. Am I wrong about how that works?

diana_coman: Mocky: isn't the "right one" dns client you're talking about simply a bridge? i.e. sure, have as many bridges as you want, too, what exactly is the problem?

Mocky: i would prefer, 'that link to mocky.istheshit/proof doesn't work? you must have a shitty dns client, here's the right one...'

Mocky: what's the point of having names if I have to also be ready with the ip addresses all the damn time?

Mocky: I see embrace and extinguish as more appropriate for dns destruction (ala a dnsmasq-esque approach) than isolated bunkers. I mean, i could have joined up with republic prime instead, but they already completed work on gns prime, and maybe they passed out ip based links for a while, but eventually pulled up the ladders to their tree forts and now they can't even be found. So who knows if republic prime or double prime even exists. ☟︎

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910435 << using gns as proposed, I don't see any other way than passing out ip based links. I can't send a blog link to a slut on fetlife who doesn't have cuntoo, nor can i send a link to cuntoo guide. The whole thing seems like tree forts connected with tin cans and string. For gossipd I have no objection, for name resolution of published material? How is it even published if 'must be this tall to ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-11-24 19:51 mircea_popescu: i ~suppose~ one manner of handling this is the followingf convention : patches to be acquired from $key/gns/ dir, for all keys in the seals ring. so it'd look for "6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452/gns" which is not a "valid" domain per usg.verisign "rules" however it DOES resolve in our own system. because we can put ips on anything we want.

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-24#1874402 << this suggests that each key holder can only host $key/gns at one ip address. And what about vpatch ordering and the v manifest file? If i have an entry for archive.is and want to change that entry, I can't just make and sign a patch of my own, i have to patch on top of the 'consensus' press, otherwise manifest won't match and can't press multiple heads. Am I wrong about how that works? ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 11:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910580 << prolly time to drop the phraseology and settle for a more adequately modest http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/082-tmsr-schedule-i.html sorta thing, "this is what i intend to do". doesn't it get akward to "oh, state of bitcoin address, mod6 did this mod6 did that mod6 did the other" ?

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910400 << I want to do the dns. I was reading recently: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=gns ☝︎

asciilifeform: soon enuff i expect cisco will be Officially mandatory in all reich telecom , like at&t gear once was pre-divestiture

BingoBoingo: Should be plenty of them in NY from what I hear

whaack: whaack, you know, for the record, "here's this vz chick i picked up" does not count as noise on this channel. << noted!

lobbes_field: Anyways, back to mines for me, but I'ma keep noodling on logotronics. bbl

lobbes_field: mircea_popescu: re: specced in lisp, indeed, with the exception of my python command router / auctionbot, the rest of the ircbot/logbot v-tree is lisp. I know python ain't long for the world so I figure it is time I lose those training wheels

lobbes_field: Bit as a practical start, I may just sit down and read some of the existing items out there (cl-who) and then eventually freeze/gebesis

lobbes_field: I.e. If, say, spyked writes a better cl-www-tron I'd still want to be able to fit the thing in my head. So any work I do toward 'building my own' will only aid me in that task (hence relatedly, I suppose, why 'build yer own v-tron' is a commonly recommended exercise).

lobbes_field: To continue my earlier cut-line: I think in the past I've been too sensitive regarding avoidance of 'duplicitive efforts', but the mircea_popescu quote of "all time is burned time" has been burning in my head.

lobbes_field: asciilifeform I did see that in my research. Glad to know you've used in the past with satisfactory results

lobbes_field: On dumbphone atm, heres rest of line "the worst outcome for me personally would be I learn more cl (i.e. not a bad thing at all). And we get some republican items made in either case."

asciilifeform: lobbes_field: i've previously used 'cl-who', but it needs to get eaten/genesised/frozen ☟︎

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Is suspect the number of Venezolanas vs venezolanos I've met here may be a function of distance. The ones here got out on their own or got out with family money.

lobbes_field: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910762 << verily, it is much needed at this point for various applications. Seems like there are several in L1 who probably are much closer to genesis-ing such a kit (phf, ben_vulpes, spyked, prolly a few others), though as it stands now there are still no vpatches. I figure I'll get the ball rolling and if any of the mentioned to 'beat-me-to-the-punch' here (and I welcome this) the worst outc ☝︎

mircea_popescu: whaack, you know, for the record, "here's this vz chick i picked up" does not count as noise on this channel.

whaack: I was with a Venezuelan for a while, but she spoke English perfectly

whaack: yup, all casados. but i can't say that that was a problem as i do like casados. it was just an added effort to be with ticas over the germans that i did not make, and my Spanish paid for it

whaack: but more's the point : and your hedonism actually kept you away from internets for the interval ?! << it certainly reduced it drastically. but i've been around, reading the logs etc. I would of course love to have done that, but I also feel a duty to keep the SNR down in this channel as i fix a lot of my shortcomings.

mircea_popescu: we could've visited the http://trilema.com/2017/friday-night-or-las-moiras-revisited/ together or some shit. i mean, i guess yes there was that one line in the log, but for reasons i now don't recall didn't make any impression at the time. nor is a single solitary throwaway line like that gonna make that much impression -- you wanna get anywhere you gotta mocky it!

asciilifeform: i cannot resist to ask, whaack what means 'gringo friendly atmosphere' ?

whaack: I picked Tamarindo mostly because of the convenience of it being near Liberia and having what I initially wanted: a decent nightlife, surf spots, gringo friendly atmosphere ☟︎

whaack: Now i'm back in NYC, which is hell relative to where I was a year ago, but on the bright side I'm actually putting more effort into Spanish here and have found time to read more and have started working through SICP http://ztkfg.com/

a111: Logged on 2017-06-07 22:09 whaack: I'm leaving the US and going to Costa Rica in about a month. In the off chance anyone wants to make some btc by renting out a place there send a msg to my key. Any advice is appreciated as well

whaack: as I mentioned in the logs a while back http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666967 i wound up moving to Costa Rica for quite a while with the plan to fix my ESLness and get out of the US. I was in Tamarindo for about a year and a half, and during that time I fell into the hedonistic lifestyle of a surf bum ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 20:46 whaack: diana_conman: cool, when I get back to it I'll try switching out my gnat/gcc first

asciilifeform: i suppose this is unsurprising, the ants also do not , luckily for asciilifeform , know that they collectively exceed him in mass, and could eat him if could all agree

asciilifeform: i had occasion to set 1 up recently, and it had maybe 400 by nightfall, and whoknows maybe they also 'wait for divine eye to finally recognize' etc.

asciilifeform: i expect there's a ~bottomless supply of those, if (who? for what?) ever needed 1.

mircea_popescu: "but mp... it's not so much i want kids as in the bioproduct... i want to RAISE kids...." "wel then wtf are you making new ones for, plenty of already made needing your cuckservices. go teach highschool."

mircea_popescu: hence the earlier comments. "oh but mp, i don't want to procreate just like that... i want a small count of kids from this one specific woman to raise together bla bla bla" is strict nonsense.

mircea_popescu: not that i'm even against the effort. if memory serves we ended up with lego out of a very similar preoccupation with turning pig's ears into silk purses. so whatever, i'm sure the ruins of us academia will provide very advanced an' amusing playgrounds for the non-retarded.

mircea_popescu: i somehow doubt it.

a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:15 mircea_popescu: now among this dozen, there was a mentally retarded girl. she wasn't badly touched, maybe 80 or so. definitely enough to take care of herself. definitely not enough for high level math. her parents however were i dun recall what academic country gentry, and so they insisted she go.

asciilifeform: i expect by nao tardkid is already 'professor' ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma guess story took place in europistan. in usa, 'ghetto' means dark meat, and not errybody has taste for same.

mircea_popescu: i once knew a rich man. he, like so many, had head well infested with goange, for some reason idiotic notion of monogamy, etcetera. predictably ended up with single wife, but "proper", "classy" whatever nonsense (as opposed to much more adequate whore) and predictably her only product was al

asciilifeform: i was not able to get an answer re why the room with sewing machines. (thought 'maybe programmable, like jaquard's loom?' but looked, nope, 'singer' )

asciilifeform: and 'tutoring halls' run by 'assoc for women in kompyooting' ( to help 'diversity' , i.e. folx who can't pass the (massively watered down in past 2 decades ) curriculum

asciilifeform: i.e. fed via arse-mouth system ?

a111: Logged on 2019-04-17 21:13 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i take the pics mostly for self, to occasionally look at and remember that there ~is~ an outside

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had camera thingie for http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-17#1908897 -ism ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform played tape of said chix for pet. pet : 'why didntcha take her home! i want' )