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mod6: you can't fuck 100% of the time. there's some division there. like 70% watch, 30% fuck.
mod6: it's great isn't it?
mod6: thestringpuller: saw your blog post btw yesterday. yeeaaaaaaaah.
mod6: lol, except i hate python
mod6: hahah, i wont spoil the choice quotes for anyone.
mod6: I watched it lastnight, was lmao.
mod6: no worries, glad it's resolved.
mod6: ok, yah. his thing basically figures that you make a new dir and so-forth
mod6: <+asciilifeform> anyway this is not a bug report for mod6 << no worries either way. more than anything, I want to help you use it successfully. :]
mod6: i've never even seen his cookbook, but perhaps his doesn't have more than one project in a dir. but indeed, ya, you can do that. even if 'tis ill advised.
mod6: so here's my using 'init' to sync trb, and trinque's ircbot, then using both. trb with the default 'patches' and '.seals' and ircbot with the non-default:
http://dpaste.com/2EFW6G4.txt mod6: if you want to ~re-sync~, you need to use: 'sa', 'se', 'ss', or 'sv'
mod6: it does that on purpose.
mod6: so this is what you ran into?
mod6: is this not what you're trying to do? one parent dir, two child 'patches' dirs ('trb' and 'ircbot'), each with respective seal dirs ('.trb-seals' and '.ircbot-seals') both being able to be used ~fine~ with v.pl (v99995)
mod6: and then, you understood how to do such a thing, even if, ill advised?
mod6: did you bother to read the extensive documentation that i wrote?
mod6: asciilifeform: what do you mean, melted in my hands?
mod6: and im stuck between trying to making getting trb up and going for people, in a "one-trigger-pull", and an organic vtron garden.
mod6: it is actually difficult for individuals who are new to this, to figure out the entire thing. and concepts.
mod6: so, it turns out, in practice, that it very much is not so.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 and then everyone will build on the later version, leaving alf version stranded. << indeed. fair enough
mod6: so that's why it didn't respond.
mod6: adali: thanks for trying to test, but you don't have L1 trust with deedbot
mod6: ok cool, it did msg me the help string.
mod6: sorry, missed 2 places.
mod6: oh, no wonder tb0t was freaked out earlier. i hadn't updated it for deedbot's new control chars.
mod6: shinohai: it does get a bit more interesting when you have >1 projects in a local dir.
mod6: let me know if you need any help with V.
mod6: anyway, we've been on this merry-go-round before. it'll get resolved eventually perhaps.
mod6: (and you and anyone who wants to would just use the genesis or something of that sort)
mod6: perhaps, this would even be the first genesis version. and then maybe an immediate subsequent vpatch to reintroduce said functions for those who may want them. or not.
mod6: asciilifeform: anyway, don't mean to sound like a d. i think, lol, that I've come to the conclusion that I might have to make a special 'alf' version that is stripped down of all functionality that does any automatic fetching of source or seals.
☟︎☟︎ mod6: asciilifeform: and lol, the point is well beyond taken that you don't approve of the 'init' function.
mod6: yes, intentional, if you're gonna be doing two different projects in a dir, they need to have different vpatch directories.
mod6: Having pretty good luck testing the new makefiles vpatch.
mod6: But, while it's still in my scroll back...
mod6: Well. Unless the line(s) referenced are say, more than a few days old, then for obvious reasons, it's handy.
mod6: I find the quoting via web-logs cumbersome, personally. The only saving grace is when a bot parses the line, the spits out that line, and maybe the next subsequent line so I get some context instead of having to copy the log line referenced and drop it into a browser manually.
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: cool. unrelatedly, why do you c/p whole text line instead of using a log link ? fwiw it's tough to read. << i'm old school. and trying to flip-flop between screens is hard for me.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 sure, we'll tell pete_dushenski that it's taken and to move the underline one. << thx!
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: !% is all yours mate << ok sounds good. will make the needed changes asap.
mod6: <+shinohai> Shouldn't it be `!%^^^xxx?` instead? << what do you mean by this?
mod6: i dunno wtf. i'll have to look at it later. anyway, i just wanted to reserve '!%' or whatever.
mod6: (I can probably have the updates for this put in place in the next few days.)
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: tb0t's new call command is !% << mircea_popescu speaking of this, I did get a chance to read that trilema lastnight - and I was wondering if I could reserve this mnemonic for tb0t. Is that agreeable??
mod6: huh, well, that's good to hear tho.
mod6: ben_vulpes: my test node has ~4gb of ram, it usually hangs out around the same, ~3.5G of ram for bitcoin, then after like a month it ooms. then needs to be restarted.
mod6: well, looks im a bit behind now.
mod6: damnit, ignore that url ^
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> in other news good god is anne holton ugyl. << omg ugh. yah, she's beat.
mod6: it takes time to read through these things and validate their correctness.
mod6: this is a good thing.
mod6: anyway, please, check out the reground ones, make sure they look good, and if you feel good about 'em, send me a sig :]
mod6: i don't have time to dig it up. but.. i might be mis-remembering
mod6: im not gonna worry about it. i went through some pain to get them exactly reground correctly, you checked them (iirc) and said they were "correct." but that was pretty much the end of it.
mod6: i dunno, it was back in the day.
mod6: in fact, i think you said that you wouldn't sign them.
mod6: phf: if you're talking about 'malleus_mikehearnificarum' and 'programmable-versionstring' then you'd be correct. they were reground, and never resigned by alf.
mod6: yea, my offline build worked great too.