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mircea_popescu: things i can mechanically replicate aren't people, that's the fucking definition, and no other definition could ever stand.
mircea_popescu: "what can you do ?" "umm.... i wasn't prepared to be asked this question." what the fuck is that ? "people" ? in WHAT FUCKING SENSE ?
mircea_popescu: i also don't think you're going on random luser routers and load webirc to then up youself, disconnect and get aggitated. why not ? "parsimonious" etc.
mircea_popescu: i don't know how to answer that question.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-15#1825804 << lol wasn't that one of the man's own sybilmuppets ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: holy hell i can't read this inanity.
mircea_popescu: for some reason abram gannibal didn't have to be explained quite to the degree obama had to. i wonder why, and especially curious as to any explanations besides http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1729826 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (now tell me : why weren't blacks permitted in the service ???)
mircea_popescu: anyway, just because the japs' would have cut their own appendix out before permitting such a thing didn't mean the americans weren't vaguely excited and generally happy about the idea some other doods fucking the wives
asciilifeform: yes ! tho can't recall where !
mircea_popescu: the problem is, the japanese didn't understand that the americans ~would prefer~ someone else fucking their wife while they play with the radio set. hence all the "airman's clubs" of putting house keys on coffee tablew and praying wife ends up with another's.
mircea_popescu: not as a matter of preference, but as a matter of necessity, "i can't not buy their junk because that'd mean not sitting here"
mircea_popescu: it didn't came so far to it making great cumrags.
mircea_popescu: "oh, german makes great tp hurr durr aren't i socially signalling".
mircea_popescu: this sort of very cheap and therefore very dumb "courage" is exactly why you can't simply tell idiots to desist, but gotta first crack their heads.
asciilifeform: re vienna -- i've yet to read an airdropped leaflet that didn't have same flavour of 'author must be doing strong dope'
mircea_popescu: i wasn't proposing you wait on rando.
mircea_popescu: not like a dozen isn't plenty, in any case.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 15:42 mircea_popescu: it's gonna be such an open season of old woman head on pike soon enough. "but what did i do ?!" "you were someone's mom in the 90s/00s weren;'t you ?" "yes i was!" "fuck you, bitch."
mircea_popescu: this is an encounter like between newton and his servant who didn't want to clean boots. newton OWNS his servant, as any other object. what battle ?
mircea_popescu: this isn't some kind of encounter like between german socialism, american socialism and russian socialism, who oh who will win in the end ? (because we know as a matter of necessity that two will ally against one, crush it, then once that's done a) import everything and b) go at each other).
mircea_popescu: they're ~things not presently known to be false~, and in the case of physics they actually are "things we know are false but don't know where".
mircea_popescu: i suppose the missing crown on this entire thread is to be had by coming back to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-06#1679600 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-14#1825478 and point out that currently accepted theorems, be they in physics, math, what have you, including whatever you wish to include, thales, archimedes, pythagora, descartes, gauss, WHATEVER aren't "things known to be true". ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: and if one ~doesn't~ have the equivalent, because one is a nomad, one fucking finds things on his own. i get it, not everyone can own a castle, to wait for carts of grain to come in for the market. fine. BUT ONE STILL EATS.
mircea_popescu: vertise" isn't a working, and so fucking on.
mircea_popescu: and so no, there's no fucking excuse. if one has an equivalent of trilema, that claim may only be permitted to stand IF IT IS FUNCTIONALLY EQUIVALENT. if it does the same thing. i think nothing of, picking randomly, orlovs' blog, or yarvin's blog, or you name the idiot, anil dash, fucktard mcdumbsticks, whatever, BECAUSE their blogs don't fucking work. and "i have a lot of '''traffic'''" isn't a working, and "i get paid to ad
mircea_popescu: this very much ~wasn't~ the first mention of bitcoin on trilema, there's earlier march http://trilema.com/2011/de-ce-trebuie-protejat-angajatul/#comment-43648 and april http://trilema.com/2011/guvernul-cu-rata-de-succes-33/#comment-47237 mentions by a fellow named gheorghe ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-14 18:34 mircea_popescu: it took me all of half week to find the bitcoin-otc in 2011, and this considering a) i hadn't been on irc in a decade ; b) i thought computers are idiotic and computer dweebs idiotic-er still for simply being involved with them ; c) was looking for sufficient cause to dismiss this bitcoin bullshit.
BingoBoingo: In a civilizations that don't have taboos against ambition, they'd be cheering to win
mircea_popescu: if i can't something it's an argentine.
asciilifeform: dumping ground market ( while they've got anything to spend ) for rubbish that even ru folx won't buy
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: chiefly that ru doesn't want a full blown syria on its border
ben_vulpes: "While the rulings of the Stockholm court were not made public...Naftogaz managed to avoid Gazprom's major claim ... almost 60% of Ukraine's GDP", so is this "the poor ukranians can't actually even pay the penalty, so we're cancelling the clause"?
mircea_popescu: and yeah, do you realise this, i wasn't even wearing black shirts until some point past bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: point is, when he was 2yo he didn't use his brain in the manner of people ; but in the manner of wolves. that window of brain plasticity meanwhile closed, and if he'll never be a very good wolf, he's certainly not getting to enroll to people university.
mircea_popescu: i don't have any clue of what dood was when he was 20 yo ; but he ain't it now.
mircea_popescu: i'm no genius, i just don't lie to myself.
mircea_popescu: it took me all of half week to find the bitcoin-otc in 2011, and this considering a) i hadn't been on irc in a decade ; b) i thought computers are idiotic and computer dweebs idiotic-er still for simply being involved with them ; c) was looking for sufficient cause to dismiss this bitcoin bullshit. ☟︎
asciilifeform: weren't as recently as yesterday, the thread re btc exchange rates, that we're a fairly small target in fairly large galaxy ?
mircea_popescu: the only correct approach is "i couldn't give less of a shit about all of it and what's this do ?!"
asciilifeform: chukcha shaman is not lost soul because he wants to communicate over 100km distance, he's a lost soul because he hasn't heard of hertz or maxwell's or at all touched the relevant material
mircea_popescu: it's quite another thing to wants ; and yes, he definitely wants, because if he didn't he'd just proceed from cause and would have been here begging his pardons upon the first time he read the logs, rather than fail to do so the 500th.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to "wouldn't it be nice..."/
mircea_popescu: and so this is the deep root of what i mean when i say "he didn't get anything right" : the ~only reason~ he included $republican-item in his soup is to support some other batshit insanity ; it's not a root but a frill for him -- as proven by the fact that were it root, it'd have rid him of the batshit he aims to hang on it.
mircea_popescu: aging in the republic, contrarywise, is the process whereby the cardinal of L and the length of some Ts shrinks, so as to remove as many Ts and T elements as possible.
mircea_popescu: grudgingly including bits that he doesn't want to exist.
mircea_popescu: because this is how they age -- they become ever more elaborate in their idiocy. THIS is the deep meaning of "Interesting to see the bits he gets 'right' , such as no anonymity, but then to see him see him turn around and" : he didn't get anything right.
mircea_popescu: to put it another way : how about you prove to me that trinque didn't SAVE US a large pile of value by getting us rid of "reverse engineer" ?
asciilifeform: hey wasn't it a mircea_popescu article where 'let's not cult of youth'
mircea_popescu: in my (admittedly, extremely extensive) experience, the only predictor of success is age. 20yo "domme" or "brat" or whatever can make perfectly fine slavegirl and thereby exist and matter. 30yo "submissive", can't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, lobbes you're more patient than me. the only way i can interpret the sort of behaviour is in the bdsm terminology, as brats. and i can't fucking stand brats, not to mention they're the essential pinnacle of idiocy, "i know it dun work but it's more important that it's my dumb idea than that it works".
guestop: nope, I dont't have such skills :(
asciilifeform: ( and i suspect that there won't be much said re cr50 for a while, currently it is in dead waters )
asciilifeform: 'just lurking' isn't likely to do much for you, threads have beginnings, and measure in months, years.
trinque: I will update my original post with the former soon as I'm able, maybe tonight. that won't be "cuntoo", but it'll be enough to get assistance from other folks such as yourself to bring it to completion
lobbes: As for signature banners, seems like they have odd rules re: those; I think images aren't even allowed in sigs for $reasons
lobbes: Hey mod6, not urgent, but could you create a pizarro banner in an avatar ratio? As much as I like the beachdick avatar I made, it doesn't communicate 'ISP' very well. Here's the size it'd need to be >> https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_138230.png
mod6: lol, wasn't much of a problem when I only had a few boxen :D
asciilifeform: get rid of mousetronic focus, if you haven't yet.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine why anyone thinks this belongs in a website. it's evidently a tarball.
asciilifeform: ( i can't think of much use for most of the artifacts, or would mirror )
mod6: normally i don't do the egg+cheese. but that was srsly a win.
mircea_popescu: but... i still don't know much.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't want to shock your expectations :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, weren't you about to move on the high seas, lefty from mullbery st. ?
mircea_popescu: it didn't, so it could be argued it "missed out" on earning 5btc for its principals. but that argument, like any other icahn-speculative truths, is weak.
asciilifeform: i haven't any idea is it's a local min or the beginning of a slide back into 2015 or whichever way, my voodoo is weak
mircea_popescu: but, the sums involved aren't that great anyway.
mircea_popescu: that... ain't so much.
mircea_popescu: does it seem to you a maybe-isp, a mmorpg, some we don't have REs and some novel length fiction warrants a 100bn valuation for the republic ?
asciilifeform: hey, it isn't as if the academitards don't always create 'new' 'paper' via same foo | bar | baz template spammers use ( as posted in mircea_popescu's www on at least 1 occasion )
mircea_popescu: don't tell me the implication would be that "we've already" the old.
ben_vulpes: wasn't that last week's "hack"?
ben_vulpes: looks more like a "the price isn't the real price because it's too high to be the real price and here's some proofy proof" to me
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 19:54 phf: heh, the kommuniti consensus around recent intel bugs is "don't do crypto on cpu, that's what tpm is for"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825019 << i'm pretty sure that's the point, they can't afford pot but gotta be as spacey as proper californians to not burn down the entire fucking country. and so... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: sorta like you trying to get into porn -- you can't complain about "having trouble with gfy.com", and so on.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 16:56 phf: asciilifeform: i think you _might've_ misunderstood the thread. the point seem to have been not so much that the whole attempt is pointless, but it's the framing that was questionable. if you make a couple of snakes and send them at own expense to interested l1/l2, i don't see how it won't be worthwhile. we just don't have any idle reversers, who want to take a stab at it for the lulz, available at the moment.
mircea_popescu: but you can also directly see how it's now a case of "oh, i didn't shake hands with mp RETROACTIVELY because I SAY SO" and all the rest of the http://trilema.com/2018/the-problem-with-christians/ bullshit just from there.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 15:42 mircea_popescu: it's gonna be such an open season of old woman head on pike soon enough. "but what did i do ?!" "you were someone's mom in the 90s/00s weren;'t you ?" "yes i was!" "fuck you, bitch."
mircea_popescu: in any case, the "unhappenings" we've been laughing at aren't ~alien~ technology. they're how the victims of child abuse react to the world "naturally", in the sense of, having had it browbeat into them by the shameful harpies of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824975 ; both in the family and at "school" / football practice / we. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that said : i don't specifically care either way, but now explicitly.
mircea_popescu: bones hospital doesn't jump on the broken bones to make the point the bones are broken, might as well abstain from pointing out to 14 yo cunts captive in 40yo reverse engineer's bodies that they're transparently and for everyone evidently 14 yo cunts."
mircea_popescu: out my factual and utterly obvious shortcoming], i'm doing you a favour, tough breaks for you that '''the server''' was out of date [which totally isn't my failure, inasmuch as it was my server, that's why i keep it around, to randomly dissociate when things happen]' without skipping a beat. it's therefore reasonable to expect similar breaks from reality to be triggered in similar circumstances. inasmuch as the setting broken
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824856 << to be plain, the argument is "hey, you just watched this dood produce broken reasoning in the vein of replacing 'it is my responsibility to register you rightly told me i fucked up the process, for which i am ashamed as i should be, it is after all my responsibility to have my keys' with 'you asked me to register [therefore you somehow owe me somthing, you totally weren't pointing ☝︎
phf: heh, the kommuniti consensus around recent intel bugs is "don't do crypto on cpu, that's what tpm is for" ☟︎
asciilifeform: i didn't either, lol
BingoBoingo: But, a big difference is they don't boil the mate water with toxic plant material already inside it
phf: asciilifeform: i think you _might've_ misunderstood the thread. the point seem to have been not so much that the whole attempt is pointless, but it's the framing that was questionable. if you make a couple of snakes and send them at own expense to interested l1/l2, i don't see how it won't be worthwhile. we just don't have any idle reversers, who want to take a stab at it for the lulz, available at the moment. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 15:46 asciilifeform: one interesting observation, is that the update mechanism lets you flash in arbitrary crapola into 'rw' section ( it simply won't jump to it if it doesn't pass rsa(sha256(payload)) ) . so theoretically could put a nop sled there, ending with jump into the magic half of unlock routine. and then expose the thing to beta/gamma, and perhaps in a few months it will Do The Right Thing
phf: well, if we don't, i'll see if i can get an unlock through corporate channels, and just use it as a one off machine ☟︎
phf: started yesterday evening, haven't finished yet. probably today or tomorrow
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be such an open season of old woman head on pike soon enough. "but what did i do ?!" "you were someone's mom in the 90s/00s weren;'t you ?" "yes i was!" "fuck you, bitch." ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and asciilifeform in his old flat killed vermin with poison, traps, in the end with own hands and crowbar, didn't reduce population of mice and rats in the city noticeable.
asciilifeform: i'm almost surprised that it didn't take off commercially.
asciilifeform: ( incidentally, the 'now you can charge from ordinary usb!' was a bait-and-switch crock of shit, plugging usb-c into ordinary usb doesn't supply even 10% of the needed current, what the thing does with its brick is to negotiate a much higher voltage, up to iirc 40v )
phf: Vexual: didn't make it all the way to catskills, Shawangunk "the gunks" Ridge
mircea_popescu: "even the greatest magician can't produce metallic aluminum from sample until he has hydro plant"
mircea_popescu: it's the exact equivalent of "aluminum is not available in the crust [because it's chemically bound with crap so strongly we don't know how to tear it apart [until electrolysis is made possible by cheap electricity]]".
mircea_popescu: it's there, they're just all effectually crippled. like dood that has enough sense to not try going at it without fume hood who nevertheless doesn't enough sense to recognize that "you asked for it" is a very poor excuse indeed for registering an expired key.