asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: sounds like you built a new base in ro ? ( or didja get that 80Mb/s into a hotel! it did not occur to asciilifeform to try this.. )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol!! and util cannot import back from br for 'reasons' eh
asciilifeform: ( no tax is ever cancelled in ameristan )
asciilifeform: gypsy flea market had piles and piles of pc iron tho. however, the savages had nfi what it is and how to keep it, dumped it straight into and out of bags with old rusty wrenches, stolen doorknobs, etc. i dun think there was a single straight pin on the cpus.
asciilifeform did go into a comp shop in timis. it had ridiculous prices, and shit iron. mp_en_viaje evidently did not go to that one.
asciilifeform: for comparison : asciilifeform pays 100 / mo for 100 (up/down)
asciilifeform: ( ... did that turn into 80Mb/s for 10 when actually try an' buy ? )
asciilifeform eats log, sees runaway decimal point, but then finds that hanbot already found, lol
asciilifeform: oughta meet in a dusty spittoon saloon somehere.
asciilifeform: seems like this makes... 3? trinque , ben_vulpes , billymg .. in tx
asciilifeform: aha. and among these, quite a few like this, where the Right Thing was not found specifically cuz it was not available at the ~scale~ of the demo model.
asciilifeform: 'quantity has quality of its own'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: ~could~ have been built in 1700s, with propeller and lignum vitae. but would've required scaled up vessel, and, as the smaller ones failed -- not built.
asciilifeform: problem was the flexible seal around the oars
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: counter-intuitively, problem wasn't the wood (they weren't trying to, nor needed, to go kilometer under water, but only below where can be seen from victim vessel)
asciilifeform: but it worked approx as well as current-day 'thinking comp'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-09#1912142 << in 1721 a (wooden, pedalled) submarine was demoed in front of peter 1. he also asked 'how far can it go.' paid to build coupla moar. eventually unimpressed and demoted the builder to ordinary shipyard carpenter.☝︎
asciilifeform: observe that it was not asciilifeform who devised e.g. ada. it came from the (nao mostly dead) world where this kinda thing was understood .
asciilifeform once actually said, to understudy, long ago : 'picture if when you overrun a buffer, you were to lose half yer face'
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu , just as asciilifeform , knows what it is to have robot arm go through plate glass and stop inch short of face. in such case the equivalence becomes very obvious.
asciilifeform: erry power tool is 'elaborate skull crusher', some merely moar obviously than others.
asciilifeform: when operator begins to expect tool to 'think', he has taken 1st step to becoming toothpaste.
asciilifeform: imho 'think' is very narrow term, and oughta refer to what the operator is expected to be doing, and not the comp, lathe, saw.
asciilifeform: ( fella put hand on working lathe, wrapped like cord on the bobbin, meat squeezed like toothpaste from skin )
asciilifeform: grr i was gonna add that famous lathe meat-wind pic to this thread, but cannot nao find.☟︎
asciilifeform: which i suppose is improvement on manually colouring the input with pencil, but grr.
asciilifeform: i.e. still stuck manually walking over the output errytime
asciilifeform: while we're on the 'best comp is the 1 that takes off yer head to shorten the misery' thread : asciilifeform did in fact get sumthing like a working highlighting from yesterday's crock of shit . but still can't trust it to actually not fuck the job , demonstrating mp_en_viaje's point☝︎
asciilifeform: 'national razor' also best, from this pov, razor.
asciilifeform: with manual backup detonator. respect.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/k5LJR << what appears to be orig src. spicy detail, 'He knew something about the skull: thicker and stronger at the front where he placed three shells. it would have made more sense – for maximum kill power – to put the shells at his temples, but it seems like he may have been trying to tic boxes for both homogenous skull obliteration and maximum death'
asciilifeform: i wonder if builder was a former nuke maintainer. setup is suspiciously reminiscent of ye olde pit detonator setup.
asciilifeform pictures the lucky fella in the evidence locker who was given that thing to wash
asciilifeform: pretty great tho. engineers on their way out have been building finely crafted autoguillotines for 200y nao , it was high time someone took it to 'next level'
asciilifeform: why's 'calculator with loop' somehow 'not calculator' ?
asciilifeform: so owner dun have to press button as often, lol
asciilifeform: it's still a calculator, lol. ( recall, 'computer' was simply name of a kind of shoemaker, i.e. d00d who would calculate repeatedly based on given 'loop' )
asciilifeform: shitting out log table for her majesty's navy with slightly fewer eggogs!111
asciilifeform: (luckily for operator) it doesn't, lol . just like luckily for pilot, boeing doesn't have to be coaxed to depart from shitting on statue in park and fly in straight line
asciilifeform: i confess i dun see where is the problem. airplane flies, tho quite unlike sparrow, comp kompyoots, etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: funnily enuff, 'whether submarines swim' dunwork in ru ( where both boat and man 'swim' ) , similarly to how in eng both airplane and bird 'fly'
asciilifeform: ( i suspect, slavish copy of philips )
