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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855842 << actually imho tbf performed 100% to spec even there. i fully expect tbf to be at the ~hindmost~ of all 'exciting new ideaz' adoptions, not forefront. it's a habsburg art gallery, not avant-garde. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-30 01:40 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855796 << to the extent ( and it is a ~substantial~ extent ) that a healthy btc net relies on ~widely~ available sane client, incl yes even for miners, to limit in any way the distribution of trb src is imho catastrophically stupid idea.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855812 << you can't help people against their will. there is no such thing as "powered text". all text is powerless, the power gotta be with people. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855843 << absolutely. however i see risk of a tendency to 'lender of last resort' misbehaviors if unchecked (by whom?! forum clearly. which you address in your point re not throwing out everything the pantsuits touch.) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855799 << twasn't obvious it is substantially a wart. i mean, if we end up cutting off everything the pantsuit attempt or attempterd historically to steal the trappings of, we'd be left without words. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855796 << i think this narrowed down over time in everyone's mind, as the shocking incapacity of "the everyone" to step up to the plate became ever more enshrined in experience. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855796 << to the extent ( and it is a ~substantial~ extent ) that a healthy btc net relies on ~widely~ available sane client, incl yes even for miners, to limit in any way the distribution of trb src is imho catastrophically stupid idea. ☝︎☟︎
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855058 << as to this, the initial release (this weekend) will use gnupatch. I tried to design the thing so that I can swap out the patcher for my own afterwords. eventually my own mcilroy should make its way in. ☝︎
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855654 << hey trinque, I plan to have this for you by the end of the weekend. hope that works ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855782 << no, it's deliberately open ended. let board pick what to do an' do it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-30#1855775 << was the whole idea, hence http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-17#1850988 ☝︎☝︎
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: and wouldja rather be doing sumthing else ? << Yeah, I think four years is enough, I think someone else should take over.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 : how much time approximately ~does~ it burn ? << I'm not even sure I can put a number on it exactly. I put a lot of time in. It's a huge responsibility.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855681 << the piggy afaik does thus far exactly what it was needed for, which is to pay for civilized hosting so the patches even have where to sit. imho anyffing on top of this is bonus. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855679 << heathendom is fulla parasites who are happy to use bitcoin without contributing so much as a farthing to keeping the 1 and only working client going, noose at 11 ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855661 << pleez post ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855658 << this is fair ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855663 << i'ma hold off on further patches, even experimentals, until regrind, if mircea_popescu says 'hold' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-29 23:22 trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bjyXE/?raw=true << not so weird, these all point to cloudfront, amazon's cdn thing
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855642 << ffs! why!!!! ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855636 << displays the expected payload, trinque ☝︎
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 1 hour and 19 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plox to snarf http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-September/000312.html and the predecessor ( mod6's http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-September/000311.html ) into 'experimental'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855609 << what newbs are these ? the sort of newbs that press from v but not have keccak ? ☝︎
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bjyXE/?raw=true << not so weird, these all point to cloudfront, amazon's cdn thing ☟︎
trinque: 161.0.121.248 << this appears to be the pizarro box, eh?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> the one useful thing here would be to get trb properly ground already. << I'm probably not going to do this until there is a vtron that supports keccak.
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, panzers!!! http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-September/000312.html << . ☟︎☟︎
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=33 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 9/24/2018
a111: Logged on 2018-09-29 15:22 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but plox not to hunt anyways, ty! << Excellent use of WoT. Ensuring particular duck lives.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-29#1855554 << bwhahaha. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but plox not to hunt anyways, ty! << Excellent use of WoT. Ensuring particular duck lives. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2018-09-22_1 << a denier of many plurious things lol
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/this-is-not-bdsm/ << Trilema - This is not BDSM.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855439 << i found last night that ~nuffin from my old squirrelmail workhorse actually gets delivered any moar. prolly for this reason. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-28 21:21 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855353 << actually the winning conjunction here is that a) rsa message size is capped and b) udp packets are capped at ~same size. this is rapidly becoming a case of 4096 bit keys and 2048 bit packets and sayonara.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855437 << the headache is that a 4kb-key sig is ~4kb... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855401 << fuck them. they have oddles of money they have no fucking clue what to do with. last fucking problem is taking money to qatar. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855391 << this is why you're even going. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855372 << ahahahaha. pigeoncustoms! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855353 << actually the winning conjunction here is that a) rsa message size is capped and b) udp packets are capped at ~same size. this is rapidly becoming a case of 4096 bit keys and 2048 bit packets and sayonara. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855334 << link! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855325 << i can see it. ☝︎
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=32 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 9/23/2018
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/pantsuit-drones-failing-to-qualify-for-pantsuit-loan-forgiveness-program/ << Qntra - Pantsuit Drones Failing To Qualify For Pantsuit Loan Forgiveness Program
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> right, but iirc it was some outrageous sum, that made mircea_popescu's torpedo look economical << Closets from 3kiloUSD monthly
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> old log threads appear to have mircea_popescu with hatred of UDP, which has meanwhile dissipated ? << There was a period when reddit hadn't yet given up on marginalizing the Republic and DDoS's were pestilential.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855195 << output ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855291 << lemme know if you'd like sumthing in particular tested with my path, diana_coman ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855180 << also forgot to answer -- it's a mips 'octeon' running freebsd off ssd , iirc described in several old thrds ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-28#1855188 << nitpick: >1500byte always fragged, cuz ethernet. but! apparently get sewn back together in time. at least at the currently tried rates, and with mix of sizes ( remains to be seen what receiver will do with a summed MB/s of frags from different people ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-28 00:39 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/udpism/usa_sender_udp_log.txt http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/udpism/uy_receiver_udp_log.txt << 1 full volley
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855070 << this guy. getting him out of the flophouse was the best move ever. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855060 << and yes. schmuck's principle of "tolerance", doth not belong here. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855058 << iirc he was getting rid of that. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855053 << this is historical. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855041 << this is so, "here's a complete model" is a periodic necessity. just you know, can't complain that "not there jit when i wanted it". but yes in general, ur examples must be had, fully functional model trains must exist, etc. otherwise how to even run academia. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855034 << indeed! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855025 << actually this is exactly >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854931 ; i saw it there then, i checked it off in my head and did not return, that or any other wednesday, to check. turns out, it got dropped. don't do that! ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855023 << moreover, i can't imagine who the fuck would make this call ~for others~. you don't like having it, by all means, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-26#1854751 ; but i am not going to say "do not use v.pl". ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: i.e. ->, <-, ->, ...
asciilifeform: i.e. : cat uy_receiver_udp_log.txt | cut -f 1 -d ',' > receiver_idx.txt ; cat usa_sender_udp_log.txt | cut -f 1 -d ',' > sender_idx.txt ; diff sender_idx.txt receiver_idx.txt << produces nil
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/udpism/usa_sender_udp_log.txt http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/udpism/uy_receiver_udp_log.txt << 1 full volley ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 19:52 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854952 << what you apparently did was completely ignore the matter for five months, then discover like children that you actually need tools at the time you started on the task (late at night etc) and so forth.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855005 << certainlt. it's already unpacked, as far as that can be done, at http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855075 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: 'Note that the sender will send each size of package *only once* and it will simply finish once it sent one package of each size' << aaah
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854994 << just about, yes. and yeah, the summary's correct. ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: built & emplaced your sender-receiver, it is running nao, asciilifeformistan <--> BingoBoingostan
deedbot: http://bingology.net/2018/09/27/peso-watch-september-2018-edition-with-bonus-uru-gay/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog - Peso Watch September 2018 Edition With Bonus URU-Gay
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 21:02 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855089 << i have no fucking idea how. i read the logs daily atm, mostly impelled by... outright fear. the best heuristic i know of, but otherwise this promises to be a first caliber bane as time goes by.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855108 << i read'em when waking, when going to sleep, and in between have scrolling in real time within peripheral vision. but evidently even this not guaranteed to suffice.. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855107 << the proggy author's duty, and nobody can save him from it. fwiw i go roughly by size/complexity of orig draft. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 20:45 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/power-rangers-inserted-inflation-bug-into-core-bitcoin-network-client-in-2016/ << Qntra - Power Rangers Inserted Inflation Bug Into "Core" Bitcoin Network Client in 2016
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 20:21 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855078 << trickier item. recall 'the song of the sirens, some have escaped, but their silence -- no one' . how to deal with 'but ~was~ it in the l0gz'.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855089 << i have no fucking idea how. i read the logs daily atm, mostly impelled by... outright fear. the best heuristic i know of, but otherwise this promises to be a first caliber bane as time goes by. ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/power-rangers-inserted-inflation-bug-into-core-bitcoin-network-client-in-2016/ << Qntra - Power Rangers Inserted Inflation Bug Into "Core" Bitcoin Network Client in 2016 ☟︎
deedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/27/tester-for-udp-communications/ << Ossasepia - Tester for UDP Communications
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855078 << trickier item. recall 'the song of the sirens, some have escaped, but their silence -- no one' . how to deal with 'but ~was~ it in the l0gz'. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855070 << neato BingoBoingo . plz lemme know asap if you need anyffing from my end ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 19:52 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854952 << what you apparently did was completely ignore the matter for five months, then discover like children that you actually need tools at the time you started on the task (late at night etc) and so forth.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855075 << yea if i'd smoke-tested it earlier, would have found. on top of this, naively assumed that diana_coman has a working and complete keccaktronic v , given as she's moved smg to newform ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 20:00 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854988 << we came up with this clever thing sometime in 2015 or so iirc. not sure what is gained by doing 99995 --> 99994 etc in light of experience, but i clearly recall how cool it looked at the time.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1855080 << i stole the notion , in slightly modified form, from knuth. the logic is, decrementing versions, with finite initial N, support a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-18#1851362 flow , where 'if you fucked it N+1 times , nao forced to call proggy something else' -- specifically in opposition to the heathen plague of runaway ver nums (e.g. linux kernel, emacs, firefox, etc) ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854988 << we came up with this clever thing sometime in 2015 or so iirc. not sure what is gained by doing 99995 --> 99994 etc in light of experience, but i clearly recall how cool it looked at the time. ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/fetlife-the-next-derperation/ << Trilema - Fetlife -- The Next Derperation
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854952 << what you apparently did was completely ignore the matter for five months, then discover like children that you actually need tools at the time you started on the task (late at night etc) and so forth. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854937 << that was fast! ☝︎
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=31 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 9/22/2018
phf: asciilifeform: i have a ksum PoC for you, http://btcbase.org/patches/vtools_ksum signed but it's from workbench, potentially buggy. "ksum foo bar qux" gives you shasum style <hash> foo\n<hash> bar\n<hash> qux\n
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 14 hours and 6 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> nm, distinguished by hand... but my vtron doesn't verify the sigs (not immediately sure why) and mod6's -- sees only Leaf: vtools_vpatch_newline.vpatch (phf)
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 14 hours and 10 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> are http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vtools-keccak-regrind/ old-style or new-style vpatches ?? my vtron won't press'em, and there is no way to distinguish , nor anything in the post to indicate, unless i'm thick
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 13:26 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854880 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854913 << interestingly, this worked, mod6 ! wtf is 99994 K one ? where did i even get it ? ( i take it , was buggy release ? )
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854940 << The changes and reasons for, are discribed here: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-February/000290.html ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 02:27 esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854912 << I plan to integrate Keccak into the thing this weekend. At that point it should be fully operational.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854935 << i did, phf reminded earlier ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854926 << ~this~ is pretty strange; diana_coman wouldja mind sharing your working set there ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854926 << confirmed ( and somehow nobody last night noticed ? ) apparently tar by default refuses to tar up 'hidden' ( i.e. starts with . ) dirs ! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 01:33 mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz << >> http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20180222.tar.gz.mod6.sig
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854880 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854913 << interestingly, this worked, mod6 ! wtf is 99994 K one ? where did i even get it ? ( i take it , was buggy release ? ) ☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854924 << quite. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 02:27 esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-27#1854912 << I plan to integrate Keccak into the thing this weekend. At that point it should be fully operational.