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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is why you know and how you know she didn't come up with it.
mircea_popescu: (amusingly enough, folks get all aggitated about "social security queens" etc, dun quite grasp that what's happening is quite exactly "son, $600 a head is the best i could manage to keep the cunt churning. you can do it cheaper, go right ahead, i didn't want to use barned wire.")
mircea_popescu: ie, the female worldview : a) isn't she the goddess-ordained womb ? b) don't i need kids ? therefore c) i'd better give her all the moneys she says, what.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, apparently it also goes by the "i don't like anything about you!!!" name.
mircea_popescu: this is what drives the length difference : unspecific can't last.
a111: Logged on 2013-11-04 16:22 asciilifeform: to which the general replied - 'it wouldn't dare.'
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 19:35 phf: madam blavatski and her followers did a lot of damage for years to come. it was literally in her writing that original meaning doesn't matter, as long as the translation sounds cool (there's a rationalization for why that somehow supposed to make sense)
a111: Logged on 2018-07-12 04:23 trinque: other than that, I'd be curious why the hell the kernel wasn't capable of pulling an adult root up itself. usually this is because the kernel was again, built for allcomers, or more specifically for linux users afraid of configuring a kernel (present company excluded, of course). this ends.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-12 13:36 asciilifeform: 1 of the things i'd like to do, supposing trinque hasn't yet already made it, is to replace the horrid gui-laden boot usb stick currently in pizarro bilge, with a cuntoo stick.
trinque: will need others, can't have too many
diana_coman: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo access to box & config confirmed; FG on ttysUSB0 had a wobble at first and I don't understand why: I ran the stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 raw -echo -echoe -echok and then tried dd iflag=fullblock if=/dev/ttyUSB0 | hexdump -C but nothing came up; then I ran the stty on usb1 as well and tried again and it...worked; any idea wtf was that at first? ☟︎
asciilifeform: i wasn't aware that we had one ?
asciilifeform: 1 of the things i'd like to do, supposing trinque hasn't yet already made it, is to replace the horrid gui-laden boot usb stick currently in pizarro bilge, with a cuntoo stick. ☟︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, will do; atm I'm gathering all the stuff from the log; wouldn't it make more sense next time to just send it together with access stuff? I get it that some parts were of public interest too but they can be discussed anyway, with ref to a paste of the stuff if needed
mircea_popescu: incidentally... i can't fucking believe the 2010s failed to produce a pornstar named justine beaver.
trinque: other than that, I'd be curious why the hell the kernel wasn't capable of pulling an adult root up itself. usually this is because the kernel was again, built for allcomers, or more specifically for linux users afraid of configuring a kernel (present company excluded, of course). this ends. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-11 22:55 asciilifeform: trinque: lemme get this straight, your script does 0 with kernel modules ? expectation is that there ain't any ?
asciilifeform: trinque: lemme get this straight, your script does 0 with kernel modules ? expectation is that there ain't any ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever saw a pipe live a whole month.
mircea_popescu: truth be told ssh pipes are fragile ; the interwebs aren't that great and well... add on top of that the usg.nsa ineptitude.
mircea_popescu: the whole history of "technology" 1992 - 2018 readily reduces to "hey wouldn't x be cool ? let's do it! oops it totally sucks who the fuck came up with this" for values of x taken out of a set with a cardinality comparable to the cardinal of all sets.
asciilifeform: https://archive.li/OUKcq << for expert paleo-entomologists strictly. 'at&t picturephone', 1964.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the important point ~everyone~ (and i don't mean in pantsuitland, at all. it's not the "gender wars" people, it's the "scientists" and "engineers" and whatnot) avoids like snails avoid salt is that THEY WERE WRONG.
mircea_popescu: currently can't be arsed to get even http://trilema.com/2018/on-the-internet-nobody-believes-youre-a-sow/ girlies on video feeds.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff , in usa at&t built a 'video phone' in the 1960s (!) . had to upgrade trunk cabling in entire country to make it thinkable ( the orig 't1' line dates to this period . ) net # of takers was... approx 0
mircea_popescu: it's funny, though, i spent the 90s thinking "oh, man, videoconfereincing will be SO COOL!!!" and then the 2010s going "fuck you and your stupid camera, get on irc like normal people. i really don't need to see you sweat."
asciilifeform generally has nfi, doesn't actively follow subj
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't dignify that shitshow with a mention, from the engineering pov. everyone involved i know of is deeply ashamed of their participation.
mircea_popescu: the sooner i don't have to hear pdf anymore the better.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-11 20:47 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-11#1833462 << why though ? i can't for the life of me imagine how one's to have glyphs otherwise, for one thing, and honestly didn't it start out hygienic ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-11 18:45 asciilifeform: ( prolly wouldn't hurt to put a '# of cpus' param in trinque's script itself, in the chroot-making step, would speed up the actual bringup of cuntoo boxen considerably )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-11#1833462 << why though ? i can't for the life of me imagine how one's to have glyphs otherwise, for one thing, and honestly didn't it start out hygienic ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( prolly wouldn't hurt to put a '# of cpus' param in trinque's script itself, in the chroot-making step, would speed up the actual bringup of cuntoo boxen considerably ) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-29 13:50 asciilifeform: esthlos: imho absolutely not; i haven't built a linix box with swapping to disk enabled, in decade+ ( 'secure alloc' simply means 'marked unswappable' )
mircea_popescu: i'm like leaving in a hurry and shit, but can't not stop and read that
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it's not a v.pl problem really at any rate; it wasn't directly clear keccak hashes and yest was a long day here
hanbot: esthlos it doesn't. footnotes source & instructions are in http://thewhet.net/2017/10/a-compendium-of-possibly-helpful-stuffs-for-erecting-mircea-popescus-wordpress-with-nearly-free-speech-hosting/ , and i've never actually taken on the selection jazz. i can tuck em both into next patch tho. ☟︎
hanbot: diana_coman the regrind presses here without errors with phf's vpatch. i didn't try pressing with v.pl, possibly they're incompatible...?
esthlos: (I couldn't find it, added by hand)
trinque: mod6: yep don't see any inbound yet. I will likely be asleep when the required confirmations roll in.
diana_coman: and on the other hand sure enough the hash calculated on whatever it spew of it is the one it reports and ofc it doesn't match what is in the vpatch
diana_coman: today is clearly not my day for working stuff; it's the weirdest thing I've seen: v.pl dies at *different files* at each run complaining that sha sum doesn't match
diana_coman: fwiw it's not a matter of pressing weird stuff - v.pl doesn't even report some patches in the flow at all if ALL patches in both branches are present
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting to hear what, specifically, happens on v99 re subj ( currently hands full, haven't tested personally )
a111: Logged on 2013-08-22 17:41 mircea_popescu: <Rulother> you know you can't just power cycle a machine with no idea what's going on :D
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> maybe if we keep going in this vein we can get the un to sponsor trilema. << Phf hasn't turned the chromebook into ladypants yet
BingoBoingo: Right, the problem has to be your room isn't intimidating it enough into behaving. Pick up a car battery and some cables with alligator clamps. Don't attach the battery to the machine. Just let it sit where the chromebook can see it.
asciilifeform: wouldn't be the first example of chinesium that overtherms with factory grease.
phf: nah, i didn't go as far as motherboard removal. i was thinking this might be heat issue, but that would be out of the box, and the pattern don't really correspond to heating
phf: hmm, cp101pa hardware is really flaky, or perhaps i got a dud unit, because the "random shutdowns" "can't wake up" "stuck in a turn on/turn off mode" issues persist ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now, the fence separating the 2nd scale 0-epsilon from the rest of the world doesn't necessarily keep inside 0-epsilons on the first scale.
asciilifeform: there are folx who labour under illusion that other approaches are possible, but they won't like where their lift is going.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:17 asciilifeform: as for asciilifeform , he would actually prefer if mircea_popescu shot straight and said 'hell no i won't pay for no stinkin' software', rather than the peculiar ritual of having a contest, then to proclaim the submitters as a whole 'self-indulgent indolent' and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway
asciilifeform: RusAlex: chances are that you will find answer to your q. incl q that you didn't know you had.
phf: originally my replacement was for diffing and patching exclusively, not the graph resolution problems. i was tasked with a replacement around the time when my food work got heavy, and i'm only now revisiting it. the problem wasn't even verbalized until closer the the end of vtools development, because particular choice of vtools delivery demonstrated the problem to begin with
mircea_popescu: however much time you might need to think, there isn't very much time altogether, because we can't sit around with an unresolved dilemma of both "this is the grapher use it" and "don't use it, doesn't work".
mircea_popescu: there isn't very much time!
phf: i haven't thought about it very much?
phf: well, i'm having hard time thinking about it, yet alone articulating it. like i told ascii (before we continued talking about it anyway), i need some time to reupload the problem, because i haven't thought about it in a while.
mircea_popescu: this may well be. i just don't get why.
phf: i don't know what a by file processor is
mircea_popescu: i don't understand this, you mean patch A having changes a, b, d, e (ie, 4 different patch sections) and B having c, d, e, f ?
phf: mircea_popescu: i didn't say more than one vpatch are identical, i said that they shouldn't contain identical changes. a single vpatch can contain changes for several files. if two vpatches have a same subset of changes to individual files you have a problem.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-10#1833125 << something the manifest should actually fix ; if it's included why doesn't it fix it ? ☝︎
phf: (btcbase doesn't choke on circular graphs, though in a general case it bails. if the circle is in the descendants order is determined by walk's order of entry, a circle back to genesis though can still be broken by explicitly designated something as "genesis", etc.)
phf: well, i kind of dig the emergent v graph behaviors, so i don't mind it either way, though btcbase doesn't press cleanly either (^ "all extant V's"). nothing keeping one from tacking on additional state to a crystalized vpatch either, and then you're stuck with another "though shall not, because reasons"
phf: manifest doesn't solve this problem, because manifest doesn't get any kind of priority treatment. if you hinged your press purely on a manifest descendent/antecedent chain then everything else will just work™
phf: if you want to reduce the problem to a "don't do this" policy, then it stems from repeated hunks across multiple vpatches, i.e. if you have two or more vpatches that have identical state transitions. something like that is bound to happen when you're attempting to port a feature between branches, as is the case with vtools. (i.e. you patched foo.c in one file "remove broken behavior", you now want to also introduce same fix to the other branch)
phf: in order to produce a graph there's a walk to root phase, the walk keeps track of press state at each node and dismisses connections edges that result in an invalid state. now WHY this is needed is because each individual vpatch doesn't keep track of the entire state, but only about its particular subset of state that changed.
phf: asciilifeform: nope, another form that as of now doesn't have a name
phf: let me retest it, but as far as i recall it was producing a patch order that doesn't press
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 04:03 trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LlO7Z/?raw=true << doesn't seem like it's flowing the whole way down one branch, unless I've got tired eyes over here
spyked: that oughta work. I can't find the discussion where phf recommended this approach of keeping just one side of the tree in the patchset.
diana_coman: spyked, but it doesn't see even 1 side fully
diana_coman: moreover, v.pl doesn't see/accept all patches: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/45WHe/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-07-09 01:53 mircea_popescu: esthlos can't select portions of your blog! but anyway, "Make a new patch with esthlos-v_genesis and some node of the EuCrypt tree as parents." wasn't contemplated, because http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-29#1592769
asciilifeform: old-fashioned pluggable hose kvm is typically equally laughable, but at least there you don't keep it around 24/7
diana_coman: basically people can bid more btc , not more $ so I don't see how is this meant to work
a111: Logged on 2015-07-26 05:35 asciilifeform: the world of 1985, where there were a thousand ~state-of-the-art~ chip fabs, under two+ separate civilizational systems, and running perhaps a dozen ~entirely independently developed~ toolchains - isn't coming back
asciilifeform: 'can't let luser insert debug hooks'
BingoBoingo: I don't know if Costa Rica gets cold in the way Uruguay does
BingoBoingo: Cloudy, but at least it isn't raining
a111: Logged on 2018-07-09 02:22 mircea_popescu: basically, stepped beyond the corset ; something in her line much in the vein of "let's make sewing machine that ~doesn't try to immitate seamstres hand~" or "let's try and make flying machine that ~doesn't try to immitate bird~". creativity is creativity, resistence of medium is resistence of medium, can find a lot to like about fashion designer.
a111: Logged on 2014-09-03 11:56 mircea_popescu: By default, systemd saves core dumps to the journal, instead of the file system. Core dumps must be explicitly queried using coredumpctl4. Besides going against all reason, it also creates complications in multi-user environments (good luck running gdb on your program's core dump if it's dumped to the journal and you don't have root access)
mircea_popescu: basically, stepped beyond the corset ; something in her line much in the vein of "let's make sewing machine that ~doesn't try to immitate seamstres hand~" or "let's try and make flying machine that ~doesn't try to immitate bird~". creativity is creativity, resistence of medium is resistence of medium, can find a lot to like about fashion designer. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: esthlos can't select portions of your blog! but anyway, "Make a new patch with esthlos-v_genesis and some node of the EuCrypt tree as parents." wasn't contemplated, because http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-29#1592769 ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-07 19:18 mircea_popescu: esthlos i don't get it, you're going to take a stab "at it" ie making a textfile, the sort that only carries any sort of weight or importance if a) you're somebody and b) you're doing something important, in between whenever your fiat job permits you a few hours here and there ?
phf: asciilifeform: i didn't expect anything less generous
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly, but i haven't tested his pill yet ( iirc not yet published on his www )
phf: asciilifeform: is it possible to combine musl and libc on a same gentoo system (gentoo insists i use something they call crossdev, i haven't yet looked into it further) (i'm using your aarch64 gentoo root file system)?
phf: ave1, asciilifeform or other ada specialists, how did you bootstrap a gnat on aarch64? is there some binary that's floating around (because adacore doesn't seem to have linux-aarch64 build) or is it bootstrapped using a cross compiler on a x86 linux?
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-08#1832806 <-- it certainly looks this way, these are keys that are in both the phathub-2015 and 2018 datasets, and this particular one belongs to the same user. but note that the 2018 one doesn't have a key id (I inserted the user id instead), that one was only available when grabbing the key through the API. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (exactly as it sounds, 1700s musket-machinegun attempt. didn't work so well)
mircea_popescu: i couldn't care less what size. it'll have to be something, and whoever makes it makes it.
mircea_popescu: if you have many hashes a) you won't have them all properly supported ever ; b) nobody's going to have multi-implementations for most of it.
mircea_popescu: the whole discussion went 1. there can only be one ; 2. sure as fuck won't be hitler's ; 3. pick something
mircea_popescu: what ~i~ don't understand is why every, ~EVERY~ design decision gotta be re-argued again, soviets style, with every fucking implementation every single time.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and what's the point of not shooting said maid needn't be answered because maid-council established "you couldn't do that", and what maid council establishes fucking goes, or what. << Plan seems to be fuck off and leave confused maid and maid council behind
mircea_popescu: and what's the point of not shooting said maid needn't be answered because maid-council established "you couldn't do that", and what maid council establishes fucking goes, or what.
BingoBoingo: The latest news out of Venezuela is that the Maid won't reliably show up to work because Maduro is handing out free food, and what's the point of working when there's food handouts