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asciilifeform: aaand pretty much 90% of mircea_popescu's 'uci' ( i.e. you can plant this wherever, and get artificial 'box' w/ specified os & proggies... )

a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 05:19 lobbes: Currently going down the headless-browser path ben_vulpes suggested. Looking into phantomjs atm, which seems like it could do the job. I have an old craptop I'm thinking of using as the proverbial 'public toilet' to house it on. (This is the same craptop I was planning to put a trb node on. I put a spanking-new ssd in there but then realized that the ethernet dun work anymore; wifi only. May be a good use for the thing to just be a turd server in

a111: Logged on 2019-06-04 00:51 asciilifeform: incidentally, i generate these by machine, and it takes about 3sec per. would have put it as a net-connected hopper thing aeons ago, BUT it of course uses a heathen render (there are no 'demonstrably electrically correct' pdf eaters, and i dun expect one to exist) and suffers from the obvious problem

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 21:27 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919567 << interestingly, i got his to boot, simply required xor eax, 0x3 where byte addressing used, 1 opcode. (not needed for generic linux built by sane people, but i dun have one yet for mips )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919694 << prolly i oughta elaborate. in case wasn't clear, i've a ~12kB x64 proggy that boots a mostly-stock linux 3.x kernel, with uart as only device. which means that applications like this are theoretically possible, when i get back to this subj. ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: thinking about it, i still dunget why there are ~2~ binaryturd gcc's in the mix.

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i dunno... it was there

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-24#1919790 << I caught it a few bars later. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i can't resist to ask, why went to oslo ? what's there, other than tomb of naggum ? ( i dun even know where it is, cannot help to either piss on it or to put flower )

diana_coman: I suspect it's still xml-effect because "oh noez, needs name of object in xml not id"

diana_coman: meanwhile I'm trying to disentangle here the cs/ps mess and I'm scratching my head at various bits: the CS engine works everywhere with names (strings) as ids (i.e. there are FindX functions only with string param, not with some numeric id despite the fact that internally it DOES HAVE them ffs) BUT then in some places it keeps various hashmaps with numeric ids for "common strings"

mp_en_viaje: i hope the arabs drive them into the sea.

diana_coman: I have to admit I have a hard time doing argentina ~= norway mainly because of the whole south/north thing; that being said, from socialist pov sure, can very well be indeed.

diana_coman: i.e. not at airport I gather

diana_coman: some will queue for anything; and anyways, not sure if "piling for cabs" is much better otherwise (e.g. Rome) though indeed I can't quite see why would there be such a lack of cabs in Oslo

mp_en_viaje: imagine this : i get out of the airport, and there is a queue, i kid you not 1k+ people long

a111: Logged on 2019-06-24 01:44 trinque: I will soon give this a try.

mp_en_viaje: i don't know that i can explain what an utter piece of shit oslo is.

ave1: btw I've *not* used the ada core version as a starting point for about a year now

mod6: Anyway, if I could work around this issue, then I can make an ebuild that'll build ave1s stuff with this.

trinque: actually makes sense, I guess it means the libc wasn't found, but it's unclear when it happens

mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IY76z/?raw=true << this is what I end up with, fwiw.

mod6: yeah, i think this was the issue.

mod6: alright, I'll have to go back and try to get this to build on here.

mod6: If the thinking is that it ~can~ be built on cuntoo, I'd much prefer an ebuild that would do that dance indeed.

mod6: so I never was able to build the ave1 musltronic tools on cuntoo, because no working gnat, I just bundled them up after I built them on a gentoo machine that had a working AdaCore 2016.

trinque: ah maybe it's all covered by ebuild defaults, I'm perhaps mistaken

trinque: I will soon give this a try. ☟︎

mod6: Anyway, I'm only just getting started with these. If there are glaring mistakes or feedback otherwise, please write in.

mod6: With everything in the right place... (I even needed a '/var/db/repos/mod6/metadata' directory with one file in it, 'layout.conf', that contains one single line: masters = cuntoo) then I was able to run a `ebuild ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64-20180924.ebuild clean manifest install merge` and end up with the extracted contents in '/ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64-20180924'.

mod6: To make this work properly, I built all of the ave1 musltronic tools on a gentoo instance with a 2016 AdaCore GNAT, then bundled up all of the binaries myself, and placed 'em on mod6.net for testing purposes.

mod6: trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4YG2X/?raw=true << Here is my **experimental only** ebuild, 'ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64-20180924.ebuild'. I've been placing this file, while testing in a directory ' /var/db/repos/mod6/app-tmsr/ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64'.

asciilifeform: i.e. single-steppable

asciilifeform: aaand that was an item where i found jtag test points that could be soldered & operated

mp_en_viaje: not i.

mp_en_viaje: currently i suspect something's ni-ing out a shader's pointer. but anyway

mp_en_viaje: and i STILL know as close as anything can be known as a matter of fact that the code's fundamentally fine, and some wrapper intermediary is spuriously fucking it up.

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i recall this.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 13:13 mircea_popescu: well so let's see here : i can't play, because after sinking however many hours in chasing dependencies and fixing assorted if widely distributed breakage the end story is that "foss" has managed to really give the whole game away -- there is ONE chain, consisting of play on linux so-and-so using wine-so-and-so on ubuntu this-and-that, and you pray it works -- because if it doesn't work, THAT IS IT, "there was an error" li

mp_en_viaje: or so i thought at the time ; but maybe the forum really wanted to hear more about how literally nothing can be fucking compiled without rewriting some parts, etc

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 21:34 asciilifeform: i.e. when building new proggies, have had to do it 100% by hand

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919706 << for one reason or another, it's what ~always happens. INCLUDING in "works by itself" ubuntu, as i think i've recently documented beyond all fucking possible degree of intolerable tedium. ☝︎

asciilifeform: it's expected in a small boy, but how grown man gets stuck in that mode, i do not know -- must be sumthing physiological, cns equiv of dwarfism

asciilifeform: 'i only nao saw this, but Here Is How To Fix!!!'

asciilifeform: ( in fact iirc it was bvt who said 'have you looked, there's none' and i did, and found none )

asciilifeform: at one pt i also thought this, and looked , and found 0 that seemed applicable

bvt: asciilifeform: perhaps i could get a bit better performance after scrutinizing multiplication code a bit; however i don't think it'll get much faster with current code structure

asciilifeform: i admit, expected a little moar speedup from asmism, so pretty curious why < 2.5x as it is

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919686 << pretty interesting. bvt : i'ma work through these when i finish with keccakism components ☝︎

asciilifeform: i.e. when building new proggies, have had to do it 100% by hand ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919631 << iirc i pasted 100+ drafts of various ffa moving parts, before genesised any ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919585 << i was thinking from ' mircea_popescu's uci ' angle. ( btw anyone familiar with linked item ?? did it work ? ) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 23:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919311 << i think this is running in the wrong direction. just more shit to break / require rubber bads / touching just so and etc.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919567 << interestingly, i got his to boot, simply required xor eax, 0x3 where byte addressing used, 1 opcode. (not needed for generic linux built by sane people, but i dun have one yet for mips ) ☝︎☟︎

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919658 << naw, I took no personal offense. Only pointing out that I understood cuntoo is not a $ubuntu-installer item ☝︎

trinque: we agree. I contend that folks are going to have to build e.g. v, gnat, in order to move forward, which is why I'm asking for ebuilds

trinque: that's not anyone's problem but mine, but pointing at it illustrates what I'd like to avoid repeating

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 06:55 mircea_popescu: and so no, what worries me isn't that http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919296 ; what worries me is htat the last item in http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22trinque.org%22 is from 2018, and that trinque.org doesn't load today like deedbot.org didn't load yest, when i wanted to check the helpfile and ended up loading it from archive.is ;

trinque: broadly, because I haven't yet extracted enough of the inflationary fruits of the former into coin.

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919603 << for my part, this directly correlates to irl rope-pushing without which I wouldn't have what on which to type. this is perhaps disqualifying, and I'll leave that for others to say. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 00:03 lobbes: however on second run-through I indeed went back to read the scripts in tandem with the gentoo handbook (so as to actually understand what was going on) and produced a bootable genesis that verified >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/02/a-bridge-to-cuntoo-for-the-lenovo-x61-x86_64/

mp_en_viaje: well, that's what i thought as well.

diana_coman: so far other parts took priority (smg comms and client) but at least my understanding was that there is work being done further on cuntoo, I had no idea that it was stuck waiting on more intensive use or something

a111: Logged on 2019-03-09 22:45 trinque: the remainder of work here is resolving this issue (I have not had) with paths, after which we can start producing ebuilds for novel republican work atop the genesis.

a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 18:11 diana_coman: trinque, that looks great; if I understand correctly, the archive there contains the means to a. install cuntoo b. make the genesis of cuntoo/portage that could in principle be used to move an existing gentoo to cuntoo; is this correct?

spyked: this makes perfect sense, I'ma do that for my next code-report.

mircea_popescu: anyway, i shall bbl.

mircea_popescu: spyked, i have no stylistical qualms, it's just an example of phisiology. use whatever works best, sure.

mircea_popescu: this "here i sit, my eyes intelligent, my expression absent" situation's for the birds.

spyked: oh I see. I could do something like that, as in http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08b-feedbot-ii.html#selection-150.0-167.116 . but IMHO the btcbase referencing style makes more sense for code

mircea_popescu: now admire what i can do : http://trilema.com/2013/internet-story/#selection-13.14-37.22 << this part is boring ; http://trilema.com/2013/internet-story/#selection-41.0-57.15 << this part is a quote ; http://trilema.com/2013/internet-story/#selection-61.0-65.37 << this part is about bitcoin ; http://trilema.com/2013/internet-story/#selection-65.37-89.175 << i have no fucking idea wtf this is.

spyked: line-per-line annotation sounds like a neat idea, but I don't have anything like that going

spyked: but more specifically: the code I've stolen works so far, I have it serving an instance of thetarpit plus a somewhat-working experiment doing dynamic stuff PHP-style. but there's a lotta complexity in the work distribution code that has me going "wtf". perhaps one good task would be to implement a worker-pool thing, similarly to what apache has.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 13:57 mircea_popescu: the sort of "before publishing, I'm making sure" idiocy is exactly, but i do mean exactly, of the same substance as the fat girl's "this donut has no calories". it uses the exact same parts of the brain in the exact same way.

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919220 <-- well, I can't in all good faith sign and publish the item before I understand it well enough to maintain it myself -- for the same money, I could just claim "use the version on shithub" and be done with that. I agree 100% that I should do small regular updates, but in this case breaking the thing into its constituent parts is the challenge, and "hunchentoot arc ☝︎

mircea_popescu: did i miss some articles ?

mircea_popescu: this pov is even voiced, but always in a chiding tone in training environments. it has its place there, but i dunno how practicable it is in the general.

a111: Logged on 2019-01-04 17:18 mircea_popescu: why the fuck didn't i think of that.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i suppose in a very theoretical, idealized sense. in practice however... what are we to conclude on the basis of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884426 ? that neither i (nor anyone else here for that matter) had diffraction loaded in head ? the wave model of energy ? what exactly ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-03-10 21:39 trinque: scripts/make_portage_tree.sh << line 14, I do string-munging on the path that's specific to my own filesystem layout

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: hm; to make it clear what I mean re loading-in-head - arguably if I had fully loaded-in-head the scripts, I should have found http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-10#1901339 myself, right? ☝︎

diana_coman: I rather saw it as "can't do this alone, need help but won't ask because it should come naturally"

diana_coman: uhm, there seems to be something out of sync in there; perhaps you are right and the problem is one of wrongly-attached self-worth though I did not see it that way

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, this is like slavegirl saying "i don;'t understand why not ask detailedly for tongue movements and assorted shenanigans". she gets punished if jher bj is subpar because i don't have the fucking patience to micromanage blowjobs. it'd be like writing the book im about to read, if i wrote it what sorta discovery is this!

diana_coman: oh, I don't know if it's re self-worth; rather interpreting the "not fully load-in-head" as "not read"

diana_coman: what I don't understand is why not ask specifically if one would like detailed feedback on some bit/part they struggle with

mircea_popescu: in any case the "i am of the republic, i will now base my self worth on the qty and amt of loading-in-head my works get" is, as of yet, a recipe for eternal sadness. this is a new rather than old republic.

mircea_popescu: i mean, i would also like people to do more loading-into-head of whatever their native language is, so i could get better movies, music lyrics and music videos, books, blog articles and everything else.

diana_coman: re reading of stuff I guess there is also the difference between one reading and full load-in-the-head; it struck me that people would want others to do more load-in-the-head of what they produce so as to get finer-detail feedback

mircea_popescu: and this paroxistic-avoidant approach worries me universally, phf is stuck in the exact same rut, for instance. i have never in my life seen this approach to things work. not once, not FUCKING ONCE, and this is all the more indicative as it's one of the most commonly deployed broken strategies. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 18:07 trinque: I noticed that not a soul read the scripts that bootstrap cuntoo

mircea_popescu: and so no, what worries me isn't that http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919296 ; what worries me is htat the last item in http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22trinque.org%22 is from 2018, and that trinque.org doesn't load today like deedbot.org didn't load yest, when i wanted to check the helpfile and ended up loading it from archive.is ; ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: as i sit here now, there's things around me i've never read. serial numbers on smoke detectors, handling and caring labels on rugs, brand names on plaster and wall insulation facing inside, towards the wall. i am not about to tear the place apart to read all possible strings around me. i might, ~if need be~, of course. but not before.

lobbes: however on second run-through I indeed went back to read the scripts in tandem with the gentoo handbook (so as to actually understand what was going on) and produced a bootable genesis that verified >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/02/a-bridge-to-cuntoo-for-the-lenovo-x61-x86_64/ ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 18:36 asciilifeform: i.e. connect to one, its state changes, and it sends message to others, which majoritate ?

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919311 << i think this is running in the wrong direction. just more shit to break / require rubber bads / touching just so and etc. ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: now, if you wish for your takeaway from this to be "hanbot is not cool enough to run cuntoo" that's your priviledge, but i tell you i don't see the wisdom. for the same money you could say you never read the damned scripts, and butress the claim on eg http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-06#1893199 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: there's on one hand the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-23#1837434 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875247 / http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-04#1917021 story arch, spanning a year. there's also the http://thewhet.net/2019/02/hanbots-cuntoo-bake-test-notes-part-i/ http://thewhet.net/2019/02/hanbots-cuntoo-bake-test-notes-part-ii/ http://thewhet.net/2019/03/hanbots-cuntoo-bake-test-notes-part-iii-with-prep-script/ http://t ☝︎☝︎☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 18:07 trinque: I noticed that not a soul read the scripts that bootstrap cuntoo

trinque: was little more than "pls try again"; I think you caught me before I updated records