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trinque: yeah that's fine; I just embiggened the type db-side
asciilifeform: but this oughta work..
asciilifeform: oops , sorry trinque
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.24737591 << asciilifeform-powered snsa->pizarro crossborder transport works
asciilifeform: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.24737591 asciilifeform-powered snsa->pizarro crossborder transport works
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: strictly plane ( 400 alone was 'excess weight surcharge ) + taxis + hotel
trinque: lol, value too long for varchar(255) asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: and so this ~2k is what, plane ticket and those bits of gear we didn't already own that we resold basically ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, i'm digging in the log re whether you included transport, but currently can't find, grrr
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, basically this is because snsa is paying you to deliver its gear there and also sold pizarro some gear on the trip, right ?
asciilifeform: ( trinque ^ ? )
asciilifeform: lol did i finally hang this thing
asciilifeform: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.24737591 asciilifeform-powered snsa->pizarro crossborder transport ( see http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-02#1807162 manifest ) , inclusive of the iron repurchased earlier by pizarro ( i dun recall if the transport cost was part of the purchase, if it wasn't , plox to rebill ben_vulpes et al ) ☝︎
deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.02 << 2 x 3ware RAID cards (1 in http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-1#309820 , 1 for smg spare and currently stored in orig packaging in the rack bilge )
asciilifeform: !!invoice ben_vulpes 0.02 2 x 3ware RAID cards (1 in http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-1#309820 , 1 for smg spare and currently stored in orig packaging in the rack bilge )
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BA0450D117008E5A2062860A5DF11353781123CFB44A905CAA74C5836643E636 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1679...6159 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '118.194.133.33 (ssh-rsa key from 118.194.133.33 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown CN 11)
mod6: Ah, ok. Thanks for the info asciilifeform.
asciilifeform: mod6: they are not merely double- but N- stackable. however power supply gets gnarly in that geometry, and the pilot plant as pictured, oughta be considered full
asciilifeform: illustration, so to speak, of the connection b/w 'physical' entropy and the rng one
asciilifeform: ( in re industrial application -- asciilifeform has found , while back, that FG might be one of the few electronic items which ~like~ elevated , within reason ( dun wanna melt the solder balls or warp the pcb, so no boiling lead plox ) temperatures... )
diana_coman: ben_vulpes, mod6 what's the price for a rockchip *with* fg as per asciilifeform's description above? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( tho mebbe not, because one couldn't then http://nosuchlabs.com/fg/fg_typical.jpg )
mircea_popescu: this is indeed where the junction is going, evolve a pcb for official arm item specifically.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly we oughta make the successor FG, in already the 'four holes of rpi3' form factor that rockchip has, so as to stack'em cleanly..
mircea_popescu: yeah. it's not a small thing this, safe online rsa.
asciilifeform: incidentally, asciilifeform seems to recall that some yrs ago jurov was looking at an arm-chipset hosting thing. jurov , still looking ? perhaps this one will work for you
asciilifeform: if pilot plant sells out and stays full -- then we construct the full plant ( and eventually migrate pilot customers to it also )
asciilifeform: keep in mind that this is a pilot plant; in 'adult' 1u and 2u designs there is designated slot for FG for ~each~ board.
asciilifeform: ( as illustrated in the photo linked by mod6 )
asciilifeform: re shelf, there is room on the ~existing~ shelf for 2 FG , without obstruction of airflow.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. they do not come with FG by default, but this is available as an option; interested folx should ping ben_vulpes & mod6 and inquire re price )
asciilifeform: and i doubt it would take BingoBoingo very much sweat to craft a suitable shelf to keep the FG-en on.
asciilifeform: ( naturally they also take conventional usb-ttl FG trivially )
asciilifeform: mod6, mircea_popescu : they have not 1 but 2 uart's, already at ttl signal level, pretty much born to FG
mod6 goes to find the picture
mod6: I suppose that one could be connected directly to the board, right asciilifeform? But would it physically have to be placed, i.e. underneath, the riser bolts/pegs?
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me that ~for the first time~ in the history of computing, we have hardware capable of on the fly rsa-ing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: incidentally, do these come with fg or as an optional ?
asciilifeform: get'em while they're on the shelf, folx!
lobbes: Ty asciilifeform for info. Ima bbl as well (leaving saltmines), but I'm sold. ben_vulpes: plox to invoice me for one quarter of rockchip box when you are able
asciilifeform: i suppose this is not bad time to mention that i have experimental gentoo for a deloused (i.e. degoogleated) c101pa laptop
asciilifeform has become rather fond of the rockbox , even bought some moar for the torture room after coming back from BingoBoingostan
asciilifeform: can buy multiple quarters ahead of time if you like, also.
asciilifeform: lobbes: definitely oughta suffice for the described use
lobbes: Pizarro folx, would rockchip box be enough juice for the above? And is it still $75 for a quarter?
lobbes: Ugh, so my www on my frantech vps has been dog slow all day. Same vps that hosts lobbesbot, so possibly I have finally outgrown the thing (currently hosts bot, mp-wp, archived urls index, eulora price history, and various misc)
BingoBoingo: And in the Sportsmen being MEN department: "Bauer told Passan that he repeatedly bugged the Indians’ medical staff to cauterize his finger wound shut with a soldering iron. They laughed at him, but Bauer was 100 percent serious. He truly wanted his already mangled finger to be burnt shut so bad he almost performed the procedure himself."
BingoBoingo: And we have yet another family with children in the hostel
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6, that's actually... exactly the opposite of what i said! << I've got ya. I'm just gonna stay on this rawtx stuffs, I'm making ok progress atm.
lobbes apologizes for all the lobbesbot join/part spam. Will have to investigate once out of saltmines
mircea_popescu: the standards in computing are a thing to behold.
ave1: That one should not be too hard, most work is done in the buildinstall function in defs.h
asciilifeform: also needs a central place to put '-j32' where it will be fed to ALL gcc & gnat invocations so that my 32-cpu box can do the Right Thing
ave1: Currently the mechanism is not fail save, so it sometimes skips a step even if it was unsuccessful.
ave1: Will do, it already has some mechanism to check if something was build and skip that step. I will look at it some more.
asciilifeform: srsly this was a solved problem in 1985 or whenever first makefile was written.
ave1: Yes, I it is, I will remove that dependency promptly. Taking complex scripts from the wild takes some time to fix.
asciilifeform: ave1: the 1 thing that really, really gotta be fixed, is the 'now you get to start the 3h build from 0 every time' thing.
lobbesbot: ave1: Sent 1 minute ago: <asciilifeform> with both vars unset, much farther than before, but still nope : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mm9hN/?raw=true
asciilifeform: i can't fucking believe the recipe relies on git, lol
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ave1 with both vars unset, much farther than before, but still nope : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mm9hN/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: as a smart slut once told peggy, "to have fun you need to organize it"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, do you propose to bereave me of the future "O yEaH ?!?!?! YOU ARE BANNED THEN!!!!" "you think i care ?" "of course you do! everyone cares!!!!" lulz ? hm ?
asciilifeform: cruddy connections , afaik, is the only recurrent problem
mircea_popescu: what's the problem, anyway, we hang out here with 50k cockcaged retards, singlehandedly make up 99% of all their intellectual products while they pretend we don't exist.
asciilifeform: lol! 'why do we live in the train tunnel, we could afford flat' 'they haven't kicked us yet...'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, because they've not kicked us off yet.
asciilifeform: quasi-relatedly, asciilifeform found himself wondering, why we're still on fleanode... between pizarro, mircea_popescu's racked boxes ( idk where, but presumably good ones ? ) , asciilifeform's own fiber, trinque , etc. could have a very solid irc net, potentially ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque, alright, then that's the plan here, you and esthlos come up with a v i can point people at when they have to publish ; you can test it by publishing whatever it was you were about to on it, and there we go.
mircea_popescu: do the tx stuff ; ada vtron can wait.
mircea_popescu: mod6, that's actually... exactly the opposite of what i said!
mod6: Anyway, food for thought.
mod6: Or work up to that point, anyway.
mod6: One other thing about ada-vtron, at the time, I was using system commands to execute `gnupg'. Where as now, perhaps we can use ffa/peh.
mod6: mircea_popescu: thanks too for prodding me about Ada-vtron. I'll poke at it as I can, for sure.
asciilifeform: ( btw, all of the nosuchlabs/pub/* linx , work again ! )
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 17:17 mod6: speaking of ada stuff. i did get horsecocks to compile just fine with the changes that were discussed previously with diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2017-06-06 19:40 asciilifeform: mod6, phf , et al : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/ada/horsecocks.tar.gz << i dun recall posting this before, so here it will live, for nao : unofficial release of mmaptron
asciilifeform: mod6: thread re 'horsecocks' -- http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666647 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667738 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682491 , possibly elsewhere. ☝︎☝︎☝︎
trinque: mircea_popescu: I am entirely willing to help esthlos finish his V
mod6: sign and send are gonna be a tough ones, so we'll see how it goes. I've got a new test machine on the way, so I gotta stand that up, etc for all of this too.
trinque: neat mod6. super useful for the wallet.
mod6: But listunspent I already had working long ago, but not with the way you wanted it.
mod6: Yeah, I've got 'getrawtransaction', 'decoderawtransaction' working and minimally tested. createrawtransaction is built and untestd entirely (was working on recent bug report instead). that leaves signrawtransaction, and sendrawtransaction... and maybe listunspent too.
asciilifeform: and yes it can be used straight, the demo builds on all known gnats iirc
mod6: oh, hmm. I'll have to remind myself.
mircea_popescu: mod6, was a while ago. but anyway, nevermind, you'll do all this later. get tx tooling into trb, by all means.
mod6: I need to go and look at that, I might be able to use that outright, or borrow from it.
mod6: see, I did think that alf had produced something of this kind that was connected to ffa.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, there is that.
asciilifeform: then no need to allocate anyffing.
mod6: Exactly, 0, 1, inf. I was worried about this. MOre pairs of eyes are good here.
mircea_popescu: "so how long is this gonna be ?" "We don't know." "bitch, go back to picking apples."
mircea_popescu: it's not a trivial problem, from ada perspective.
mod6: fwiw, I did look for other appearences of the same bug in all of the trb source files, however, I didn't see one. Doesn't mean that they don't exist. I invite all to examine the source.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, no that was re v.
asciilifeform: mod6: parser for what ? tx ? you allocate a max-tx-sized (1 decimal MB...) buffer and shift the input into it.
mircea_popescu: mod6, just how many you'll find, it's already 1, and the rule goes 0-1-inf.
mircea_popescu: mod6, there's no rush there, esthlos had 90% of a working lisp v, i expect it can be tweaked into a deliverable. can have ada v later on.