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asciilifeform: take the example of a fresh forked-end . which prong is 'outside' ?
asciilifeform: they aren't marked as 'outside' tho
asciilifeform: under any circumstances.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had this thread, trb retains orphaned branches of any and every size, because it never goes back to remove anything from ~inside~ a blkxxxx.dat .
asciilifeform: (0, of course, in a reprocessed blockchain -- that is, one that's been spitblocked and immediately eatblocked by fresh node)
asciilifeform: iirc there were at least 3.
asciilifeform: (orphanola retained indefinitely.)
asciilifeform: there's stubble.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope. go, look.
asciilifeform: lolk
asciilifeform: everbody, it turned out, had slightly different orphanchain-stubble.
asciilifeform: ^ if anyone recalls the 'eatblock' thread -- i found that my blkxxxx.dat differed, in a handful of places, from mircea_popescu's, and yet again from every other trb node's.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu didja ever explain how your algo from http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol deals with the nonlinearity of the chain ? (the orphan stublets - discarded ? and if so, when exactly. because there are points in time where two traditional-bitcoin nodes disagree on what 'all blocks to date, linearly ordered' were. )
asciilifeform: and noshit.jpg, they hate the d00d -- closest thing mr.t's wot has to a brain
asciilifeform: sadly.
asciilifeform: on one hand, yes pigs squealing. on other - they aren't actually in a meat yard, nobody's rendering'em
asciilifeform: didjaknow.
asciilifeform: in re mr.t lulz, 'Trump will continue his losing streak if he keeps Bannon at his side, WSJ says in blistering editorial. Hits against President Donald Trump's senior counselor Steve Bannon are circulating Tuesday morning, with “Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough saying it's “hard to find a more villainous historical figure this side of Stalin or Hitler.'
asciilifeform: oh hai trinque
asciilifeform: or he would've swung it by nao, i suspect
asciilifeform: well yes. and they're still there, and will be there next year, because mr.t doesn't, evidently, own a magical Wand of 1937
asciilifeform: id'vethunkso
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ZAnHt << in other unsurprises
asciilifeform read 'i got a day of iss' , thinks 'damn, launched to international space station, what atrocity'
asciilifeform: whosthat
asciilifeform: style reminiscent of his, also. wonder if d00dz know one another in the meat.
asciilifeform: site reminded me heavily of ben_vulpes's laments.
asciilifeform: at any rate -- strictly entomological collection.
asciilifeform: or 2015 b-a was about gavin & hearn
asciilifeform: it is in the same sense that 2016 trilema is about clitler.
asciilifeform: al intelligence will kill us all, or whether everything will turn out fine just as long as we continue to monitor the living shit out of every single human being alive, in order to feed the machines. A Hackernews suspects Obama quoted Mao, and everyone reassures each other it's probably fine.' ( http://n-gate.com/hackernews/2016/10/14/0 )
asciilifeform: 'Someone considers Barack Obama, a politician whose largest undertaking involved a failed healthcare IT deployment, and member of a political party known for hemorrhaging private data, eminently qualified to discuss safe policies for artificial intelligence practice. Hackernews divides into two groups. The first group performs the traditional election-cycle political shit opera for six hours. The second group debates whether artifici
asciilifeform: collection of lulsummaries of d00d who reads hn.
asciilifeform: 'A Hackernews begs for advice on getting anyone at all to pay attention to his shit. The answer is unanimous: spam. Not even considered: making attention-worthy shit.'
asciilifeform: many lulzgems.
asciilifeform: 'Some foreigners do forex. Hackernews is not impressed with this ancient idea. They could have done it better, but they're not going to bother trying.'
asciilifeform: 'Some moron "optimizes" a feature of a text editor that is written in javascript and requires hundreds of megabytes of memory to open an empty file. Hackernews recommends you switch to this editor, or away from this editor, or anything, just switch. Whatever you're doing isn't what they're doing: fix it. In accordance with Federal law, one Hackernews implemented the feature in question in Rust.'
asciilifeform: in other lulzfests, http://n-gate.com ☟︎
asciilifeform: ..but! no frag.
asciilifeform: note that it does not cancel the heat death of the universe -- you still have the infinite pile of blox
asciilifeform: ( for utter pedantic completeness, i will also link back to one other solution to fragging: 'gravitation' : thread http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-28#1609013 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( the most obvious down-side is : that now you can end up in a situation of asking someone ~for change~ -- as if you were in a shop, in meatspace ... )
asciilifeform: so you thereby solve fragging.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-28#1619935 << incidentally it now occurs to me that danielpbarron's vectorized-coin solves this problem. (picture the quantized an-addr-is-born-when-a-block-is-mined-and-changes-hands-via-sigs scheme, from old thread; but with the twist that you can mine a variety of different sizes of coin. which remain fixed at selfsame size for all of eternity; they merely change owners.) ☝︎
asciilifeform: variable-width tx, the 'gift' that 'keeps on giving' !
asciilifeform: it also evicts cache entries, so that the ~next~ block can take 8, and the next..
asciilifeform: as if it were not sad enough to have a block that takes ~12 minutes (!) to save,
asciilifeform: meanwhile, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-27#1619020 continued >>>>>>> http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/with_cache_moar.txt ☝︎
asciilifeform: in other noose, https://archive.is/Rw5QK << 'The "Beat the Boss phone" is an £27 micro-telephone built into a Bluetooth headset with only trace amounts of metal in its construction; it is lozenge-shaped and is designed to be rectally smuggled into prisons, jails and courtrooms.'
asciilifeform: likewise, in sect. 6 i ought to have explicitly stated that Z is a sig that covers not only I,O,C,F,Q but also T. perhaps this is evident to alert reader - but ought to have been explicit.
asciilifeform: specifically, in section 5, where we have T'_i = H(T_i) ought to read instead : T'_i = H(A'_i+T_i).
asciilifeform: ~now~ the cask-chain is a proper, nonpromisetronic chain, cemented in the end by the leaf's seal.
asciilifeform: because otherwise! any upstream node (incl. miner) could rob any downstream node.
asciilifeform: it ought to have read : H(T0+A0+H(T1+A1+H(...)))
asciilifeform: in the original text, a leaf signs ticket that was made from H(T(H(T(....))) . this is disastrously wrong, because it does not cement the relays' payment addrs into the final signed tx
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu to revisit upstack : there is a serious mistake in my casks.txt , that i did not spot until now:
asciilifeform: (or 'i found out about bitcoin, and now i will fix it!1!!')
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: just as it is healthy to grasp, e.g., euclid, before you go on to lobachevskyate.
asciilifeform: to revisit upstack : it is entirely healthy for kidz to 'redefine what means washing' ~when they grow up~. but not while they are nonwashing 5yo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has an article with springs and ratchets, iirc, aha
asciilifeform: hey modern usa is what you get when prepubertal chix 'redefine what fucking means'
asciilifeform: i for one do not much care whether they 'take remedial class remedial in washing' in a specially-designated leprosorium , or in mircea_popescu's cellar; just for so long as the non-washers do not get to redefine what washing means.
asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-13#1582699 << thread ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: naggum had a thing or two re subj.
asciilifeform: sorta was the original point of a school, neh. a reasonably safe reservation where 'chix who have not yet learned to wash' can lean to wash, without creating dangers to self and others. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'come back when yer halfdead'
asciilifeform: sounds like american 'health insurance'
asciilifeform: imho it is not unreasonable to ask that kid save up his coinz until tx fee doesn't dwarf his payload. just as it is not unreasonable to ask chick to grow before qualifying for mircea_popescuation.
asciilifeform: let'em interact, on your terms.
asciilifeform: from your servant's quarters?
asciilifeform: if it i buy a new, more efficient cpu, that heats the room less with each cycle, but the gained cycles are used to maintain the self-delusion of redditors -- this is a loss, not a gain !
asciilifeform: i for one would actually rather that my cpu heat the room , than handle redditor's pissdusttx.
asciilifeform: all you get is moar stink.
asciilifeform: this was the mega-lesson of industrial era, neh.
asciilifeform: thing is, there is no good reason to assign the cake that a tech improvement yields, to the stinking poor.
asciilifeform: i proposed a mechanism with minimal somethingtoallcomers, and correctly-balanced, imho, incentives. it remains to other folx, to ~dispose~, neh.
asciilifeform: perhaps not the best analogy. i make rifle, and monkey uses it for hammer, he has nfi where is the trigger or which end is the business end -- monkey's problem , not mine.
asciilifeform: it gums up with liquishit of its own emission.
asciilifeform: the original bitcoin is the m.
asciilifeform: iirc even satoshi lived long enough to barf.
asciilifeform: granted, the stupidity of users knows no limit. at least i for one do not know its limit. but if i make mircoscope, and monkeys - use it for a hammer - what's to do.
asciilifeform: and his place will be taken by a miner who knows that a miner's place is on his knees, in the kitchen.
asciilifeform: the castration of the miner, for other. if he bitbetates, he can be nailed.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: O(1) verification, for one.
asciilifeform: to wind it up, the casks algo is asciilifeform's attempt at the 'high vacuum pump' from earlier -- to get the max possible removal of something-to-allcomers element , to the extent possible without running an entirely closed wotronic system (and consequently turning into visa or swift) ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform can picture this.
asciilifeform: what can i say, tastes vary..
asciilifeform: the very ideal, in fact, of fucking.
asciilifeform: and many people find donkey fucking sufficient.
asciilifeform: and the existence of some public pissoire that will necessarily accept a given piss of mine, is promisetronic
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: i have 0 fondness for the mempool, it is 99% rubbish, and uniquely retarded means of accomplishing what it was meant to accomplish
asciilifeform: mempool is braindamaged by virtue of being an 'allcomers' pissoire
asciilifeform: an item i forgot entirely to mention in the original piece.
asciilifeform: likewise, since we have a defined down- and up- stream, we can have sane block propagation mechanics.
asciilifeform: recall, this is not a decorative item, it gives very real bang-for-the-buck -- for instance, the complete abolition of the idiocy known as mempool
asciilifeform: 'i give you a republic, if you can keep it' (tm) (r) (somebody)
asciilifeform: the savings in mass may justify this.