nubbins`: but i think in 6-12 months or so, you'll see it priced 3-4x current
nubbins`: i don't think there's a market for it today, anyway
nubbins`: what makes you think i don't have any :D
ThickAsThieves: Altcoin is still waiting for its source code, though I'm wondering if we need to wait and can't just do it ourselves from the genesis block
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benkay: a few months is the answer
benkay: mp wants the moon, unsurprisingly.
benkay: the altcoin generation bit is pretty easily did and the exchange its own bundle o' giggles but there are performance considerations around running an arbitrary number of wallet watchers
benkay: ever heard of the Mythical Man Month?
nubbins`: "surely if we divide this pizza into a thousand equal slices and gather a thousand men, it will be consumed quicker"
kakobrekla: so, bit4x just made a switch from dBTC to mBTC, which is 1:10 going to 1:1000, but i only feel 10 times richer
benkay: i can definitely arrange for btc to get burned. i don't think that's a sensible business plan, though.
kakobrekla: myea, correctarrow would be more appropriate
mircea_popescu: dude i looked at footage, what the fuck, there's been no snow. you got a little freezing rain.
mircea_popescu: sight unseen maybe, but srsly, freezing rain is no emergency.
nubbins`: after it gets to a certain thickness, it's an emergency
kakobrekla: my house will be out of power for a week probably
nubbins`: meanwhile at heavily airbrushed face
deadweasel: look at her face! she's like "whut a slanka!"
mircea_popescu: "how dares she be sexually adventurous to a greater degree than me!!11"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` don't hate, some people have the misfortune of falling on a running millstone
mircea_popescu: deadweasel they're more like girls than women, really.
nubbins`: well ya know. maybe that look is pity rather than contempt, then
nubbins`: "poor mash-face has to get naked to be noticed"
deadweasel: mircea_popescu: point taken, srs tho are you giving out btc for clothing?
deadweasel: i still make them get naked with nice cheap words.
kakobrekla: theres about 1000 transformers damaged
deadweasel: holy shit, that's going to be a while...
dub: fucken global warming
nubbins`: dub, the climate isn't changing
mircea_popescu: yeah they got troubles. i was just making light of it because i'm an asshole in a tropical climate 70 miles away.
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kakobrekla: its gonna take a year+ to fix all damage
mircea_popescu: nubbins` dun be telling dub it's a lefty conspiracy, he's been sayin' it since b4 you were boarn, son.
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dub: having not followed cardano at all, any utility in it shipping with 'hardware' encrypted disk as a value add?
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dub: bolt on some flash that can't be casually read without having whatever other requisite peice
dub: mp is a big fan of fde
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40023 @ 0.00092945 = 37.1994 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: not as high as using the thing as intended, but still.
deadweasel: can my electric saw have one of those neked bar girls attached?
ThickAsThieves: "Since it's a SHA-256 coin, this is an interesting one to follow because the same equipment can mine it." I love the folds of irony Altcoin brings
dub: was just an idle thought 'hey since I'm lugging it around anyway, 64g of storage with better-than-a-truecrypt-volume security might be nice'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 900.45241962 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 180 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids no approx. 1 bn. it's in the contract.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's possibly more rng customers than gpg customers imo
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves thick, lucscious, shimmering pink folds of goodness.
dub: we're mostly only just learning how broken existing offers are tho rite?
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mircea_popescu: dub notrly, we're mostly just reading the guardian about how fucking exciting it is to be like at the guardian. also diets.
dub: the royal unwasher we're
nubbins`: guy walks into a bar and orders a glass of brake fluid. "brake fluid?", the barkeep asks.
nubbins`: "yeah, i'm addicted," the guy says, "but i can stop whenever i want"
Mats_cd03: i have a brilliant idea for a bitcoin venture
dub: ya - 8 Ways Your Sphincter Will Tighten When You Read This Amazing Conspirace
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: so is my calculation as the P/E of MPOE to be ~55 correct?
nubbins`: Mats_cd03: funny thing about ideas...
deadweasel: Mats_cd03: just's watched the simpsons tontine episode?
Mats_cd03: deadweasel: no i was thinking about the double deuces episode in archer just now
Mats_cd03: but it looks like nubbins` is rite and i'm unoriginal
dub: they made more archer? rad
deadweasel: ah yes, forgot taht one.. those two episode made me laugh harder than I have in months
Mats_cd03: dub: there is also more archer... 3 eps out i belieb
Mats_cd03: i wish i had friends that would put in for a tontine
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids something like that. depends on how exactly you calculate the reference price.
nubbins`: what was it, the flying hellfish or something?
deadweasel: how do you reveal your private key to the right person when you die? holy shit, we need bitcoin TRUST FUNDS...
herbijudlestoids: so based on those numbers i calculate the "market implied annual EPS growth rate" to be 86%
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids mind that you are calculating something over a very fastly changing curve.
deadweasel: ah yes, if you don't reply to the email after a month, it's sent out
dub: hardware dead man switch
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform once the space stabilizes some i expect tontines will actually work great.
Mats_cd03: that sounds like good fun, although i'd be worried about getting killed if this wasn't pseudonymous
dub: no heartbeat for 8 hours, upload key
Mats_cd03: but i suppose thats 99% of the fun amirite
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids many things. in jan last, there were ~7mn btc. now there's 12mn.
mircea_popescu: after pirate we had a 4 month freezeout which was the worst i ever saw, almost killed the s.dice ipo
mircea_popescu: i don't think any current sovereign could survive such depression at all.
mircea_popescu: well... your calculation sits atop and intends to represent an economic reality. which is very fast chaning.
herbijudlestoids: basically all im saying is that if EPS is expected to grow ~86%p.a. then MPOE is a fair value investment, if less then its overvalued, if more then undervalued
nubbins`: asciilifeform: there's always this year :D
mircea_popescu: yet again one of our major strengths turns out to have been what clueless noobs imagined is a weakness.
nubbins`: what i want to see is a major utility announce that they ONLY accept btc.
mircea_popescu: if btc had actual economic adherence in 2012-2013 we'd have been fucked with a capital CK
nubbins`: if it had adherence, maybe those events wouldn't have happened
nubbins`: did you even WATCH back to the future? ;(
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's a flattering point, but i very much doubt it.
Mats_cd03: utilities being for rich entities seeking modest, secure returns, i dont see that happening
nubbins`: i never really viewed the wet parts trade as a thing where sellers sought buyers.
nubbins`: what do you do, hang around a hospital?
mircea_popescu: they send recruiting teams in the poor farmland, give kids laptops take their kidneys.
dub: I thought they just pick a religion and use its practitioners
nubbins`: "who will buy my kidney" will attract nobody, because who wants the kidney of someone destitute enough to want to sell theirs?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're selling about 100k parts a year by the latest numbers i saw.
ThickAsThieves: <nubbins`> what i want to see is a major utility announce that they ONLY accept btc. <<<< i might add "design a 100% Pure Bitcoin seal design" to my todo list
nubbins`: design a design and thing all the things
dub: nubbins`: theres a market, supply/demand and all that jazz
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah well that's where things get debated.
nubbins`: dub: sure, but the person who wants the kidney goes out and finds one they like.
nubbins`: they don't wait for some asshole to come to them
dub: harvesting facilities are in the jails ffs
nubbins`: sure, but again, that's not sellers seeking buyers
nubbins`: buyers saying "you. right there."
dub: they have cought murican cosmetics companies red handed buying chinese skin derivatives
Mats_cd03: does anyone else hate the tv show suits
nubbins`: imagine taking a 10" tablet and charging it by balancing it vertically on a male micro-usb jack
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: because growing a mustache from scratch makes you look unkempt? :D
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` that is exactly the sort of idiocy. it has all the markings.
nubbins`: "are you tired of not snapping off connectors inside your expensive electronics?"
KRS-: I am going Foo Manchu this month
nubbins`: i want to see five of these things plugged into each other
nubbins`: with five ipads smashed on the floor
nubbins`: "break all your things at once!"
dub: there is a retard (ipad) sized 10 key calculator in this room
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dub: I've been hilariously quipping that its more useful than the apple product to all the apple fanboys here
Mats_cd03: asciilifeform: thats because its literally impossible to satisfy nix geeks
nubbins`: only ONE stranger recognized my wife and i
dub: pic of her as yolandi plox
dub: points if you wore the dark side of teh moon boxer shorts
decimation: LoL yeah it has a few extra features...
benkay: junkyard ware is all we get now asciilifeform
nubbins`: dub, unfortunately only blurry cellphone pictures exist
benkay: this means that people who care about the problem should probably invest some time and intellect into fixing it instead of waiting for a corporate sponsor like BSD does.
decimation: the amount of time and intellect required to reinvent the computer with non-crap is literally several lifetimes
decimation: and it's not profitable, and it's likely you will make many powerful enemies
decimation: oh that's a more reasonable goal. yeah you aren't going to convince the junk peddlers that it's worth their time
benkay: well look asciilifeform there's digikey, there's a 3d printer, and there's a mess of hardware out there. nobody's going to mass-produce a *nix laptop but Apple, and we can't use theirs. the solution is to cobble our own together.
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decimation: what I find interesting is the "market dynamics" of the iphone/ipad vs. android alternatives
nubbins`: my mother wears the letters off her keys within ~4 months
benkay: so what's a more tractable problem: supplying high-quality keyboards for shitty cobbled together laptops, or producing entire chassis?
decimation: before the apple junk dominated, there was actually some differentiation in the marketplace amoung android devices
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decimation: I love my old hp-48 chicklet syle keyboard. I wish someone would bring that back on a portable device
KRS-: reminds me of metro-x
KRS-: dub: u are a sick man
nubbins`: if it's just the chassis holding you back, get one machined
KRS-: damn geeks took over market topic
decimation: the portable device mass market is full of different manufacturers, yet they all produce very similar knockoffs of the same design
KRS-: CDE reminds me of my Sun desktop days
decimation: what could drive such risk-adverse behaviours amoung the executive suites of those companies?
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decimation: what happens to the guy who suggests: why not try something other than an iphone clone (for instance)
decimation: I think you have a blog post about how the world is damned to repeat Job's mistakes
dub: asciilifeform: tmux?
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform isn't a laptop by its definition ALREADY an oddity ?
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, executive assistant chicks with 4 feet worth of leg.
nubbins`: for example, mine's on a table
nubbins`: if you're going by what lazy slobs do, you could call all kinds of things laptops
Vexual: you can put it on a desk but you dont have to
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` suppose tomorrow I decide i want a diff video card.
Vexual: tol up your chinese factoryies to make mini pcie stuff
nubbins`: suppose tomorrow you want rack and pinion steering on your motorcycle.
decimation: I guess that the serious lack of non-Apple competition for well-designed hardware (ie, not just Apple clones) is proof that no major electronics manufacturer is well managed
nubbins`: decimation, it's more that there isn't a market for well-designed hardware.
nubbins`: is there room for two homemade fudge stands at the farmer's market?
mircea_popescu: decimation perhaps it's proof that apple hardware is not well designed.
nubbins`: for example, look at those time capsule things
mircea_popescu: would you say the lack of coca-cola competition for healthy fizz drinks proves no major pharma company is well managed ?
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decimation: either they are not well managed or the zombie hordes in the US would prefer not to think
nubbins`: anyway, apple hardware is well-designed visually, sure
mircea_popescu: decimation apple has unmatched strengths in marketing and advertising
nubbins`: i was about to say "but it's not like they're fabbing custom chips"
decimation: they used to be a joke back in the clone days
mircea_popescu: this is strictly because apple had at the helm for a decade+ a person who actually understood how worthless advertising is, and just told the horde to get fucked
Vexual: they worked out to patent connectors
mircea_popescu: if you only buy +ev packages for 10 years and have the bankroll to buy anything, eventually you end up king of the hill
mircea_popescu: think about this : all OTHER mass market folks need to PAY celebs and producers to get product placement
mircea_popescu: apple gets this the other way around : the SHOW itself wants to gain value from the association.
decimation: but how do you create stuff people want? I submit (like ascii) that it can only the product of one mind who has the power to dictate the result
nubbins`: decimation: you convince people that they want it.
mircea_popescu: to create product you can sell in the 1990s us, you create something that people CAN IDENTIFY and push their want buttons. is all.
mircea_popescu: what you take for "good engineering" is really just what nintendo was trying to do with the "game cube".
mircea_popescu: ie, it's a cube. basic geometric shape. "herp derp i can recognise this in my surroundings"
decimation: So your goal, as a businessman, is to get the big dumb blob of the population to be able to recognize your widget
mircea_popescu: decimation well, don' go fighting the war of the past.
mircea_popescu: the 1990 us (lots of people with lots of welfare money to throw around) is not coming back. ever.
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mircea_popescu: you can feel it, in retrospect. all this govt money everyone had... greatest party of all time.
mircea_popescu: party's over, but yeah, that one chick with nice tits that took her top off... what a hoot.
mircea_popescu: what was her name, peaches, rosy, eve ? something with apple in it maybe.
decimation: Perhaps the 1960's-90's will be regarded as the peak of "us civilization"
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decimation: I was a little confused. In the us, this is a forgotten part of our history in the popular mind
mircea_popescu: yeah, well. the people whose retarded children followed lincoln in his nazi adventure.
mircea_popescu: it'd have blossomed again, im sure, but europe bleed it twice in 50 years
decimation: Indeed, what is interesting is that how little of the communism that had taken over Europe in the late 1800's had actually affected America
mircea_popescu: course... you're quite healthy "yet" the day after you've fucked all the girls at the pit stop too.
decimation: I mean, the election of 1886 was about whether there should be a silver or gold standard - and the gold won!
Vexual: maybemoreso than 110 y later
Mats_cd03: is there more silver or gold in existence
decimation: that's why the democrats wanted to adopt the silver standard - it would be extremely beneficial to the "little people" - debtors all over the midwest
mircea_popescu: decimation planet earth is not really far off the universal average is it ?
mircea_popescu: i vaguely remember that earth is actually "reasonably" representative of the actual unviersal distribution of elements.
decimation: ascii I want something that has a reasonable off-line backup system that will restore from an external drive, like time machine
mircea_popescu: Vexual actually, on earth iron and nickel are, not tin.
Vexual: reasonable meaning that we are here and can see about 100 meteres across the shere of earth if it were the universe
decimation: well, that's fine if you want to ensure your system isn't modifying files while you write the clone?
KRS-: Anyone going to the Berlin Bitcoin conference, PM me for 20% discount code.
nubbins`: did i tell you guys about the coworker i had who used time machine for version control?
decimation: Perhaps it would be integrated into your suspend feature :)
KRS-: If anyone is lending on BFX I could use some swap for almost 600 LTC.
gribble: sturles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 37 weeks, 4 days, 18 hours, 38 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <sturles> I've upgraded my clients to latest git. Not forwarding or mining silly dust spam any more.
decimation: well ascii, part of the problem with your lack of unix laptop is that there aren't any unix hardware manufacturers anymore
decimation: yeah, laptops are going to require some level of hardware/firmware/driver integration
decimation: it seems there would be a market for a "rhel laptop" like the tadpole was for sun though
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> this isn't really an issue with full-scale machines, where you can mix&match hw <<< shit, laptops just got killed.
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decimation: HP was killed by idiots who were drunk at the party in the 90's MP mentions
nubbins`: did they EVER have a "unix laptop"?
nubbins`: did ibm have AIX laptops, did sgi have IRIX laptops, etc
Mats_cd03: chromebooks are about as good as its going to get imo
nubbins`: i'm not so sure this "unix laptop" thing ever existed, aside from a few isolated instances
nubbins`: Mats_cd03, chromebooks are essentially dumb terminals
Vexual: whats wrong with a raspi in a lunchbox?
nubbins`: asciilifeform: so can an OLPC ;p
Mats_cd03: im at the stage where i know a lot about netsec but very little about practical mitigation of threats
Vexual: i thought thats what all the kids had now
Mats_cd03: so having a chromebook to do things that might be sensitive is great
Vexual: build the rest with arundio
decimation: well, if you want to DIY laptop you might as well join up with bunnie, at least he is going with open/auditable firmware
Mats_cd03: if i'm really, really worried about getting pwned i guess i could use a raspi with a usb drive to bridge the air gap
decimation: although that doesn't detect chip fiddling
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Mats_cd03: im sure it exists but i havent seen malware that targets both armv6
decimation: except your "raspi" is closed hardware with binary blob fimrware
nubbins`: wait, so now we're looking for a laptop with all open hardware?
decimation: well it was probably meant for phones/tablets to run the RF stuff
nubbins`: just call up that company whose laptops RMS uses
nubbins`: and ask them to do a bespoke one for ya
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> to say that laptop is unnecessary is like supposing that nothing smaller than a squad machine gun is of any use in war << this is facually true
decimation: I donno, qualcomm is probably more scummy than intel
nubbins`: hm, this tadpole used openvms?
Mats_cd03: i used to own a S&W revolver what about it
nubbins`: afaik they give pistols to suspected heroes
nubbins`: so they can drunkenly stagger towards enemy snipers firing shots
Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: nah i never fired it, it was an antique i saved for home defense
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you shooting a .38 in each hand > me with my .5 DE ?
mircea_popescu: there is an absolute limit to the smallest firearm usable on a battlefield. so in computing. the laptop is below that limit.
Mats_cd03: only if you turn both pistols sideways
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Mats_cd03: you'd kill 6 whole gangsters, i seen it
Mats_cd03: now that we're talking about firearms
Mats_cd03: i want to tell all of you that live in murica to buy an antique handgun
Mats_cd03: no need to register it if you leave it at home
nubbins`: i'm not so sure that "computing" is a battlefield
nubbins`: handguns work fine for domestic disputes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you do have a good point there in principle, but im not so sure the laptop resolves the movement problem.
Mats_cd03: 9/10 on scale of intimidating crackheads and drunks off your property
Vexual: flingin crts with one hand workls too
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Mats_cd03: i live in the union so theres lots of regs everywhere
Mats_cd03: i rented an AR-15 once in san diego
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Mats_cd03: theres this regulation that assault weapons have to be sold with this special magazine release
Mats_cd03: so you end up using a fucking pen to pop your 10 round mag out
decimation: I think the new thing is that the next magazine has a key to pop off the last one
Mats_cd03: if i'm going to shoot up a mall i'm going to find the biggest magazine i can find, prob 40 rounds, and then i'm going to get a weapon that takes less than 5 seconds to reload
Mats_cd03: some regulations about a 10 round magazine and mag release fuckery ain't gonna stop that
Vexual: regulations changed in australia, now we have more unlicensed guns than the bad parts of la
ozbot: Happy Land fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Vexual: everyone handed in their crts tho
ozbot: San Francisco Targets 'Repair Kits' That Skirt California's Gun Magazine Limit - Hit & Run : Reason.
decimation: PLEASE NOTE: CA-Legal Magazine Repair / Rebuild Kits are to be used to 1) repair or rebuild your existing legally owned high capacity magazines or 2) permanently block to 10 rounds or 3) store in a disassembled condition for use outside of California. They are not intended for reassembly into new high capacity magazines, which would be a felony under California law.
Vexual: asciilifeform: supercession seems to work better
ozbot: BitBet, January 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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benkay: wow a significant month for bitbet without significant donations
mircea_popescu: benkay it's still a scam, but this month more quoting wikipedia less quoting trilema
decimation: the list of unapproved submissions is likely hilarious
nubbins`: "Upon further review, we have determined that the string by itself is not a machinegun"
mircea_popescu: González was charged with 174 counts of murder—- two for each victim—- and was found guilty on 87 counts of arson and 87 counts of murder on August 19, 1991. For each count he received the sentence maximum of 25 years to life (a total of 4,350 years). It was the most substantial prison term ever imposed in the state of New York
decimation: how can the guy who signed that letter face himself in the mirror
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Mats_cd03: is there context for the photo on trilema
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: unfortunately there's no separate crime for "killing 87 people"
nubbins`: and what sort of justice equates the killing of one with the killing of dozens?!
Mats_cd03: ive spent five minutes now just examining the man's beard and the other guy's arm hair
decimation: why not just convict on one "count" then, and if you want him to suffer more, convict him of the next?
nubbins`: and he committed the crime 87 times, they say
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you can't commit the crime x times, unless you do x things.
nubbins`: sure, but if i go to a pizza place and eat a full pizza, do i get charged for one slice?
decimation: public hangings ought to be mandatory viewing for the entire population
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mircea_popescu: nope. if eating is punished, you ate, you get punished.
nubbins`: okay, so i left my wallet at home
Mats_cd03: convicted felons will now scrape gum off sidewalks
mircea_popescu: but if you ate once you don't get "one count of eating an olive, another count of eating another olive" bs.
nubbins`: do i have to wash the same number of dishes as the guy who only ate half a pizza?
mircea_popescu: 43985734987984357 counts of 5 minutes = 5 minutes in jail.
mircea_popescu: i'm in jail, i'm in jail. it applies to all possible reasons i might be in jail.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: same punishment for striking one person with your car vs driving through a crowd, mowing down dozens?
mircea_popescu: unless there's a special law for 3 people, murder is murder.
nubbins`: don't you suppose that would encourage people to just keep on driving after they've struck someone?
mircea_popescu: it can be manslaughter or aggravated murder, but it is an offence.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` do you suppose the 4955th year discourages anyone ?
nubbins`: "actually this whole town is full of nerds"
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i don't suppose the punishment discourages anyone who commits an offence
mircea_popescu: "dude, 2500s i don't care about so much but i gotta see superbowl #1955"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda what i'm pointing out here. it makes a laughingstock of the process.
nubbins`: asciilifeform: prisons get paid in advance? ;p
Mats_cd03: the process has always been a laughing stock, we just invented the internet recently and tell each other about it
nubbins`: so i come home to find my wife in bed with another man
nubbins`: i might as well just shoot the other one, and my daughter too?
Mats_cd03: it has been an adversarial judicial system its entire existence...scalia agrees on this account
mircea_popescu: nubbins` fun fact : guy did this in timisoara ~5 years ago. he was acquited.
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Vexual: get a new woman and stay free
Mats_cd03: i mean fuck they're pitting lawyers against each other, someone is going to get fucked and its not the prosecution
nubbins`: Mats_cd03: sometimes the prosecution gets fucked, but they don't really have to pay the bill when it comes
decimation: why is it considered horrific to broadcast hangings in the US, but not horrific to broadcast "fiction" featuring people murdering regularly?
mircea_popescu: decimation why is it considered horrific to show kids nipples
decimation: We can build a kingdom of God on earth, if we just pile up enough chairs...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was it because hangings got too close to masturbation for the victim ?
mircea_popescu: U.S. intelligence agencies last week urged the Obama administration to check its new healthcare network for malicious software after learning that developers linked to the Belarus government helped produce the website, raising fresh concerns that private data posted by millions of Americans will be compromised.
ozbot: The Belarusian Connection | Washington Free Beacon
nubbins`: asciilifeform, gore is essentially porno
decimation: Belarussian hackers probably have unique insight in how to create proper communism
nubbins`: humans get off on vulnerability
nubbins`: this is why they enjoy humiliation, torture, gore, etc as well as sex
nubbins`: and why all those things have a habit of getting tangled up with each other occasionally
nubbins`: consider the age of 1-900 sex chat
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nubbins`: or a room full of dudebros swapping stories of tricking women into having sex or beating up nerds
nubbins`: even thinking about it gets people riled up
nubbins`: doesn't even need to be witnessed
nubbins`: the wetness of an impaling is just icing on the cake
nubbins`: and in a pinch, a recollection of the hanging
mircea_popescu: so when's the last time you gave the missus a good spanking ?
nubbins`: i'm not saying everyone in the town was jacking off at the gallows
nubbins`: nor is every man a steroid-riddled ape shouting "HURRR" and slapping a woman's ass purple
nubbins`: just that these are common enough things that share a common characteristic
mircea_popescu: so the proposition here is that the same process took out hangings and spankings ?
nubbins`: no, that the same process made them popular in the first place.
nubbins`: propriety brought both out of the public eye
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mircea_popescu: as a non-steroid riddled non-ape that has slapped bucnhes of butts purple i tell you i see no appeal in hangings at all.
nubbins`: sure, and some who eat beef don't eat pork
mircea_popescu: some who care for antique vases don't care for antique knives ?
Vexual: and the whisky is arely in another castle
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: sure, and the same attraction to items from a time past is what brings people to collect both
mircea_popescu: maybe there's something here but perhaps too complicated to easily detach
nubbins`: this all stems from a quip, really
nubbins`: consider another angle: humans are driven to have sex because of sexual urges. doesn't mean all humans want to have sex with both genders
nubbins`: some prefer one, some the other, some both. but the motivation stems from the same source
mircea_popescu: a, a. they're both taboo transgressive, but i doubt they're the same thing really.
mircea_popescu: the hunter enjoys seeing gazelles gutted and females fucked.
nubbins`: but the common taboo is vulnerability
mircea_popescu: doesn't actually mean either women are goats or fucking is gutting, i dun think
nubbins`: point i was making, i guess, is of course people jacked off at hangings
Vexual: it might mean you can't shoot a dove if it's nesting
nubbins`: i'm sure there were people jacking off in the theatre when you saw "consent" or w/e it's called
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you should hire Vexual to do atc shilling i tell you.
Vexual: incase some brave housecat is deprived of duck milk?
nubbins`: the vulnerability itself isn't a taboo
nubbins`: "i'd sure hate for that to happen to me" as one gleefully watches
nubbins`: ^ disregard, that was a useless statement
mircea_popescu: it's actually an old style cinema. built in the 70s, like 1100 places
Vexual: they you have some balkan craftsmen alter the stage
nubbins`: you really did have a lot more comments when you posted in romanian, huh
mircea_popescu: nubbins` about 90k over ~3-4 years, 20 a day or something
mircea_popescu: romanians still comment and so on, the english speaker is pretty blaze.
mircea_popescu: i doubt people comment once per 100 articles they read.
nubbins`: in the english-speaking world, website comments are generally considered to be the lowest form of discourse
Vexual: romania was catapaulted out of opression with the internet
nubbins`: someone showed me a picture of a bathroom with "dick surgery or die" written on the wall
nubbins`: recognized the bathroom, to this day have not found the writing
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nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i blame news websites
mircea_popescu: no, because those exist in romanian too and they're just as dumpster-y.
nubbins`: they're great if you want to know what idiots and bigots think on a given topic
Vexual: id be scared shitless if i read that in lumberjack country
Vexual: if i ever go to canadia im shitting in the snow
Vexual: as in not truck stops?
ThickAsThieves: i always thought maybe people like horror and spanking and sci fi and apocalypse because of depravation from survivalistic lifestyle or something
ThickAsThieves: hunter with no need to hunt, caregiver with nothing to care about
nubbins`: popularity of disaster/apocalypse stuff is more a product of the times
Vexual: gonna happen more when a human can't find a square mile to themselves
nubbins`: but sure, thrills are thrilling for those who don't get thrilled much
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0473 = 0.2365 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: waking up is a trhill for me
Vexual: fuck mano -10 would take my breath away
nubbins`: it's fine if you're dressed for it!
nubbins`: Canada Goose parkas are really popular here the past few years
Vexual: breathing it in would be like a menthos marbolro
nubbins`: not because they're necessary (srsly, an expedition parka at this latitude?)
mod6: dealt with -20 (or worse) all January.
nubbins`: but because famous people wear them when visiting canada
Mats_cd03: why the fuck does FX show archer at 3AM EST
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The Scientology of Bitcoin Finance?
mircea_popescu: mpex will cease to exist because some pick up artist said things at some conference.
mircea_popescu: he doesn't know about how mpex ceased to exist in 2012 because nefario said things at another conference.
ThickAsThieves: Open Transactions is, from what i can tell, a server-distributed ledger, based on last signed & verified receipt
mircea_popescu: i look forward to anon forum derps explaining how mpex will sitll be ceasing to exist in 2025
mircea_popescu: because some yet another social media nobody is saying things.
mircea_popescu: saying dude. if only i knew saying is what makes this world run.
Vexual: i wonder if i could melt jimmothy
Vexual: six years of sloths suck oughtta do it
Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: well... youre not OP right? that would be a master stroke
Mats_cd03: google search for "years of sloths" yields 2 results
mircea_popescu: but it is kind-of funny that people with a clue suspect me of actually sockpuppeting as "mah enemies" on various sm sites.
mircea_popescu: if those dorks knew that they're in fact working for me for free they'd prolly have a 2nd aneurism
Vexual: its kinda funny that people with a clue think i have a clue
ThickAsThieves: seems they dont know even when you tell them, so youre okay
Mats_cd03: the trick is to fake it until your fist is in their colon
mircea_popescu: recall that guy snackman ? "o, bitbet is screwed, i will spend a month saying bad things EVERYWHERE, like on places that matter such as reddit"
Mats_cd03: then they're your sockpuppet... colon puppet... sort of
mircea_popescu: there's like... sock puppets, when you make the account and use it to further your interests
mircea_popescu: then there's suckpuppets, when random derps make the account to spite you
Mats_cd03: suckpuppet might work, although that just made me recall the auditory sound of a fist leaving an asshole
nubbins`: ah, i just got reminded of eskimobob
Mats_cd03: i havent seen enough fisting videos to refute your claim
nubbins`: Vexual, his name was brought up in the mpex scientology thread
Mats_cd03: so fisting is a regular event in your life then
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, before my time
mircea_popescu: well not so regular, but you gotta try things once in a while.
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nubbins`: didn't quit my job til feb 2013
nubbins`: so there was a period of like 4 months there where i wasn't much in tune with everything
Mats_cd03: the human colon is a remarkable thing
Mats_cd03: i wonder how many of my daily accessories i could fit in my ass if i tried
Vexual: yeah but you're were a boss at birth
Mats_cd03: lets see... gum, wallet, phone, hand sanitizer, moleskine, pen,
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13437 @ 0.0009283 = 12.4736 BTC [-]
nubbins`: i don't get this sanitizer thing
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 "He'd be damned if any slope's gonna put their greasy, yellow hands on his boy's birthright, so he hid it in one place he knew he could hide something - his ass. Five long years he wore this watch up his ass. Then, he died of dysentery. He give me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. Now, little man, I give the watch to y
nubbins`: there's a small metal box on the wall with a lock on top that hides the temperature controls for the room or w/e
nubbins`: some asshole walks up and sticks his hand underneath it
Mats_cd03: that seems familiar but i always thought the story was about a jew
nubbins`: looks mildly confused when hand sanitizer doesn't squirt out
Mats_cd03: i use hand sanitizer to get the smell of smokes off my body
Mats_cd03: and gum to remove it from my mouth
nubbins`: you use it to think it gets the smell of smokes off your body
nubbins`: truth is, you fucking reek like smoke after having a cigarette
nubbins`: ask anyone around you who doesn't smoke
Mats_cd03: i'm not a cigarette scientist okay i can only do so much about the cigarette smoke
Vexual: nuns carries half a pund of skunk to get the smell of smoke off his breath
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mircea_popescu: Vexual runs one of the funniest markov chain bots ever.
Mats_cd03: and the smoke touches my hand and mouth, so hand sanitizer and gum is how it goes
Vexual: im from the ponds institute
nubbins`: vexual, ive been quit for 2 years 3 months and uh
nubbins`: started at age 25, feel free to have a lel
nubbins`: occasionally i'd smoke 20 darts over the course of an evening
nubbins`: alkie friend of mine got cut off from red bull one night at the bar
mircea_popescu: "i feel like i'm talking a little fast but you can'treally tell"
nubbins`: he says "you know how hard it is to drink six glasses of coke?"
nubbins`: downs 4 red bulls, screams his lungs out on a stage for 45 minutes
ozbot: BBC News - Corruption across EU 'breathtaking' - EU Commission
mircea_popescu: The extent of corruption in Europe is "breathtaking" and it costs the EU economy at least 120bn euros (£99bn) annually, the European Commission says.
nubbins`: his heartbeat felt like a fucking dubstep club
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Mats_cd03: for the friend you hate that has everything...
nubbins`: the header on that website is pretty amazing
Mats_cd03: i am particularly amused by the header
Vexual: wheres the best place in realeurope for an australian to live?
nubbins`: vexual, you won't want to miss ^
mircea_popescu: Vexual spain if you like fat whores, romania if you like slender whores.
Mats_cd03: theres even hair glued onto the wallet
Vexual: this hurts more than trilema
Vexual: and remids me how i got frozen squid instead of statchcock
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00595747 = 0.423 BTC [+]
Vexual: can one walk around speaking english at everyone in romania?
nubbins`: was waiting for the actual question :D
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nubbins`: problem with !b is that it's easy to fuck up
mircea_popescu: "problem with this linux box/kalashnikov/cuisinart/etc"
ozbot: Why MP is your God.
nubbins`: is that what you wear under your vest? :\
mircea_popescu: holy moses on a stick, someone sell him some original haagen-dasz
Vexual: the cowspiders made me sick
nubbins`: try placing a bare foot on the ground
Vexual: yeah that worked, thanks
nubbins`: np, it's a good one to remember
Vexual: yeah, the feedback loop swas that it made me forget i had feet
Vexual: funny how secrets travel
mircea_popescu: let's do a game of guess. so my driver (who's really a retired ceo guy, lots of fun) dropped off his 10yo kid to whatever kid social function before picking me up, but didn't go all the way because the street was muddy and his car freshly washed. so the kid had to walk like 100 yards. gets called on phone, kid is affraid of DOGS111!! doesn't know what to do pls help. what does the guy do ?
Vexual: txt him a spoonful of cement?
mircea_popescu: giving away like a promise to pay 1 atc once i get some to the first person that gets the right answer.
mircea_popescu: well of course, the reason i know about this is cause i was in the car when he got called.
Vexual: is there only one answer?
mike_c: told him to bark at the dog
mircea_popescu: mike_c pretty much. spent ten minutes yelling in the phone at the top of his lungs telling the kid what a little shitling it is
mircea_popescu: "if i come home and you've eaten no dog i'm going to spank you!"
Vexual: its not really a spoonful of cement if you have to call the kid
mircea_popescu: so eventually he's done yelling and im like "you got a point there, gotta get the kid scared-er of you than the dogs, then he'll be fine"
Mats_cd03: i dont understand why you would eat dog instead of all the other animals in existence
Vexual: that was a typo, but the question stands, jason statham stylee
Mats_cd03: its not as though theyre particularly tasty
mike_c: i'll get an address and let you know.
mircea_popescu: mike_c not that i have any yet ;/ a-hole miners ain't selling
Vexual: im pretty sure you can make a adkey like bitcoin?
nubbins`: vexual is huge into atc isn't he?
Vexual: yeah man i found 8 blocks
Vexual: its supersceded my single radeon now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00092143 = 12.5314 BTC [-]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, apparently btcguild merge-mines it now
mircea_popescu: My thesis about taper is that the banks in the U.S. had mortgage bonds on their books probably close to the tune of a trillion dollars that they could not sell to anyone. It was dead money, and they had to write them off somehow. The problem with writing off close to a trillion dollars’ worth of mortgage bonds that were held in all the U.S. banks is that kind of money is probably more than the total market capitali
mircea_popescu: zation of the U.S. banking industry. So, they had to figure a way to get those mortgage bonds off the books of the banks and silo them somewhere without basically admitting that the U.S. banking system was insolvent.”
Mats_cd03: the eurozone is about to experience the same thing are they not
nubbins`: the history of us banking is pretty much "we had to figure out how to pretend we didn't shit the bed"
Mats_cd03: i recall something on reuters, although min was 1bln rather than 1t
mircea_popescu: basically, the fed has about 2-3 trillion worth of dead money in its 4trn balance sheet.
nubbins`: "maybe if we make it illegal to own white sheets" etc
Vexual: whois bonds for bitcoin
mod6: atc diff: 16384.00000000
nubbins`: bank of canada governor got hired by the bank of england a while ago
mod6: wow: "blocks" : 15753
mod6: was at like ~12000 on saturday
mod6: but diff was 4096 then too
Mats_cd03: so...not at all like what i was thinking about
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 "exposure to emerging markets" != "money nobody is ever repaying, period".
mircea_popescu: yes, i get it, the us is trying to create a periphery crisis to (yet again) shift the focus.
mircea_popescu: the previous attempts didn't work, as nobody really cares what the english press is saying outside of the us space anyway.
mircea_popescu: it's mostly a case of a guy with terminal cancer inventing sneezes and other health emergencies in the hospital staff.
Mats_cd03: im curious to see how the power dynamic between the us and china changes as the chinese move into a consumption phase
mircea_popescu: the chinese ain't moving into the consumption phase tho
Vexual: they couldnt slow growth if they nuked bejing
mircea_popescu: they might have, maybe, unlikely. this crisis is saving them from it for suire.
Mats_cd03: a friend of mine who designs env filtration systems told me some good stories about china
Mats_cd03: he was there this last year for six months in the north, and apparently everything is literally polluted
Mats_cd03: e.g. in the touristy areas of beijing/shanghai they sometimes spray the grass green
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Mats_cd03: there was also a good one about pigs being poisoned by some feed or other
Mats_cd03: which he happened to see driving by a local river
Mats_cd03: said pigs were floating in the dozens downstream
Mats_cd03: i wish i had gotten that photo from him...
Mats_cd03: .cn farmer said fuck it i'll just dump these pig bodies into the water and try again
Mats_cd03: he claims literally every single source of water in china is polluted
nubbins`: "If you go to that subreddit [doge] people don't know what the fark they are doing but it doesn't matter--they are tipping, they are giving to charity, they are having FUN. Everyone is friendly and very excited--it's a very stark contrast to here. There seems to be a lot of new crypto users joining there instead of here. A LOT of new crypto users."
CryptFox: Where's captian planet when you need him most?
Vexual: no doubt, did they put you to work?
nubbins`: guy is on the verge of tears because btc isn't taking lessons from doge
mircea_popescu: because totally "crypto user" = fucktard saying words on rettardit.
nubbins`: /r/bitcoin is all grown-uppy and boring now
mircea_popescu: and besides, we want more fucktards so desperately. like, not enough, must have more.
mircea_popescu: "mpoe-pr is mean, we will all go to glbse and mpex will sink because you need US!!!1"
mircea_popescu: "mpoe-pr is mean, we will all go to btct and mpex will sink because you need US!!!1"
nubbins`: Vexual, i met a norwegian guy one day in a village
nubbins`: was checking out this place that produces argan oil
nubbins`: but in fact it was the norwegian guy's fat draw that smelled like hash
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00092112 = 16.5802 BTC [-]
nubbins`: your ship had trouble with the fog
Mats_cd03: i'm watching a natgeo program called Bomb Hunters
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Vexual: not guatamalian enough?
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1301 @ 0.00079993 = 1.0407 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.002984 = 0.185 BTC [+]
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mircea_popescu: dude after all the futzing they did with betas and everyhing... i'm dissapointed
mircea_popescu: and to top it off it looks like they can't cover the ~1mn damage and are splitting.
Vexual: this is why bricks and mortar casions explain their position with a taste of asphalt
mircea_popescu: asphalt is expensive, Mats_cd03 has to clean it afterwards etc.
Vexual: well in a physical environment they start to smell
Vexual: on the internet siz weeks without a show aint shit
Vexual: im channeling ghosts coz that said six showers when i typed it
Vexual: what colour is goats shirt?
Vexual: mice_c you got an ad yet?
Vexual: mike_c ive got shit to do
mike_c: not yet. i'm sure we'll bump into each other again.
Vexual: a bc add will suffice i think
Vexual: markov says tommorrow wont do
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 25 @ 0.03400098 = 0.85 BTC [+] {5}
mike_c: btc is good? then 18B61TqudC7pwqHP1J52eJwYx7ycwFtV2p
Mats_cd03: you have A(D),10(S) pre-flop what do you do
Mats_cd03: flop is 10JQ (D/S/S) do you play and what are your chances on 1) flush or 2) straight
mike_c: thanks vex. now i am diversified.
ThickAsThieves: "shipping after Feb 8th. AntMiner U1 is an USB miner with 1 BM1380 chip. Rated 1.6 GH/s, 2 watt power from the USB port."
Vexual: external power s dont count
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49250 @ 0.00092714 = 45.6616 BTC [+] {3}
Mats_cd03: playing A10 unsuited is bad, i wouldnt even play A10 suited if i was down
Vexual: i assumed the suit was favourable
Mats_cd03: i forget what the odds are on a straight
Mats_cd03: but with a flush if there are 4 out on flop then your chances are 1/3 river+turn
Vexual: gotta look in the eyes
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Vexual: otherwise play the ace
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 420 @ 0.002984 = 1.2533 BTC [+]
Vexual: poker is raerely won on odds
Mats_cd03: i subscribe to the four levels of poker
Mats_cd03: 1) playing the cards 2) playing the opposition 3) playing what you think the opposition has 4) playing based on what you believe the opposition believes you hold
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.04178024 = 3.3424 BTC [-] {8}
Vexual: its more of a cham,pur tho no?
mike_c: 5) play based on what the opposition believes you believe the opposition believes you hold
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 60 @ 0.02998996 = 1.7994 BTC [+] {6}
Mats_cd03: too many levels, i'm falling off a bridge into a lake from inside a van
ThickAsThieves: so the USG takes over money transfer via the Post Office?
Vexual: ive already told matty im playing every ace, so hes behind
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02969 = 0.3266 BTC [-]
Vexual: goodles not looking to implelent wu
Vexual: or do you mean you're not sure if you got it or not?
mircea_popescu: 7) you are the god of poker so just play whatever you feel like
Vexual: yeah wester union is like aids coz you dont know if you got it
Vexual: and otherways not so much
Mats_cd03: no theres no subtext wu just sucks
Vexual: yeah, wait 6 weeks for nothing special
Mats_cd03: i dont get why it costs so much or takes so long
Mats_cd03: theyre flipping bits and manning retail locations
Mats_cd03: what a genius, hateful business model
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00092763 = 17.5322 BTC [+]
Vexual: will they start sending bc?
Vexual: meanwhile google has already tooled up wallet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.0005 = 0.15 BTC [-]
Vexual: because matercard lawyers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.111 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
Mats_cd03: when 99% of your revenue is from ads, you can do wutever you want
Vexual: knowing what kind of shampoo i use aint no ace
Vexual: for everything else, theres bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18084 @ 0.00092588 = 16.7436 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ". For many people, Bitcoin is the first time they experienced a paradigm shift in a very long time. It's exciting to have your world rocked, but Bitcoin is not a casting call for paradigm-shifters"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00092763 = 3.1539 BTC [+]
Vexual: doeth fridcats trading system exist at all yet?
Namworld: Advertising on BitBet is good. I'd recommend.
mircea_popescu: i was just wondering how it works in report footnotes :p
ozbot: BitBet, January 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: and with that my dear chitlins i bid you a very good laters!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9216 @ 0.00092588 = 8.5329 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12184 @ 0.00092446 = 11.2636 BTC [-]
Vexual: ThickAsThieves, is it on testnet?
ozbot: If you ever used bitinstant in the past, I bet MtGox just locked the funding options on your account
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00092446 = 6.1939 BTC [-]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 227 @ 0.0005 = 0.1135 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29393 @ 0.00092041 = 27.0536 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00092098 = 23.3008 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.12299999 = 0.615 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.14489999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10232 @ 0.00092098 = 9.4235 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 87083 @ 0.00011979 = 10.4317 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.5691522 = 7.9681 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.24310363 = 0.9724 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.54547241 = 15.8187 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14366 @ 0.0009272 = 13.3202 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.148 = 0.296 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00092156 = 8.9852 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.15 = 3.45 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.0445 = 0.2225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00092378 = 10.6235 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.24310363 = 0.9724 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29307 @ 0.00092062 = 26.9806 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5593 @ 0.00091992 = 5.1451 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7341 @ 0.00091992 = 6.7531 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1937 @ 0.00092309 = 1.788 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.24310363 = 0.9724 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.24310363 = 0.9724 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26762 @ 0.00092742 = 24.8196 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04549998 = 0.2275 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00092744 = 4.4517 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00092766 = 32.4681 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 32 @ 0.00469188 = 0.1501 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 18 @ 0.02969 = 0.5344 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.16572999 = 3.3146 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.18 = 0.72 BTC [+]
jurov: lol i'm in cest. just came from lunch
jurov: gonna have coffee, look around the btcland
herbijud1estoids: in australia there is a website called menulog that allows you to order from local resturaunts (that participate) online...lots of them have deals, my fav one delivered me free dinner tonight :D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.24310363 = 0.9724 BTC
jurov: and hen work some... one of these slow days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.02969 = 0.6532 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57986674 BTC [+]
jurov: but when one has good restaurant over a corner
jurov: where they serve you menu for 4.35 euro (and they cook well, rarely i have to order something else)
jurov: why bother calling pizza man?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.24310363 = 1.7017 BTC {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00092812 = 12.8081 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: yurp way of life, ya know...everything in walking distance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16831 @ 0.0009292 = 15.6394 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5369 @ 0.00092942 = 4.9901 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 45 @ 0.0049 = 0.2205 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 24 @ 0.00500831 = 0.1202 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: i used menulog until they fucked me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00092946 = 19.1933 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 17 @ 0.00595746 = 0.1013 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 21 @ 0.04696427 = 0.9862 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5357 @ 0.00092954 = 4.9795 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00092954 = 13.4783 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 22 @ 0.00698568 = 0.1537 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8736 @ 0.00092581 = 8.0879 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 14 @ 0.0077005 = 0.1078 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0825 = 0.165 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00092601 = 15.1866 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.0058 = 0.406 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56999997 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 14 @ 0.00776871 = 0.1088 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: i dont particularly like eating outside
chetty: cooking for yourself = better/safer/cheaper
kakobrekla: i dunno about safer but yeah, better and cheaper
kakobrekla: but i enjoy privacy really, and you normally dont get that eating outside
truffles: nobody cares that u like blood sausauages
davout: blood sausage is awesome and i do care
jurov: if you like cooking for yourself that's awesome
kakobrekla: truffles i slaugthered a pig and drained the blood for those when i was a kid
kakobrekla: also made the sausages (but at a different time)
davout: as in cook it? or actually make it?
truffles: u wouldnt say that standing next to me :D
kakobrekla: you think id have a problem draining your blood?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56999999 BTC [+]
truffles: not that pigs just stand there and take it put
kakobrekla: the pig was prolly two or three times your weight
jurov: we did not have pigs, but chicken,and my fav food were dumplings made from fresh chicken blood
jurov: helped to mde them too
truffles: a human would make more effort
kakobrekla: well i think you make an excellent case study
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16644 @ 0.00092601 = 15.4125 BTC [+]
truffles: if u invite me i might not leave :D
jurov: we can propose to mircea to put complete pig slaughter into conference program
jurov: and only excuse taken would be to swore under the law one's vegetarian
truffles: ive heard their parts smell nice
kakobrekla: once i went on a trip with some people for bout 10 days
truffles: thats something u could actually do trial for!!
kakobrekla: only later found out they are all veggies
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18125 @ 0.00092749 = 16.8108 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: tbh, as long as they cook well, i don't give a fuck. i was on similar such retreats, rainbow family and whatnot
kakobrekla: they were all farting like a motherfuckers
truffles: there are some things id like to try like tofu or certain veggie as meat substitutes
jurov: pffft, a little cereal coffee will do
jurov: i found out i actually fart most from bread
jurov: as long as they cooked veggies and legumes, it was fine
truffles: kako will take notes on that jurov
jurov: on what? the pig slaughter? yes go on, by all means
truffles: i was midway doing "better thing"
jurov: and i haven't even close to some requirements
jurov: cuz i was talking about things i don't give a fuck of, not requirements
jurov: as long as it tastes good i can't be bothered if there's meat or no
truffles: dont u dislike when uve done something, it has updated now u have to refigure out how it works!
mircea_popescu: that's like bisexuality. "as long as i feel good i don't care if there's meat or not"
jurov: oh, that' more like pansexuality
jurov: truffles and what i have to refigure?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.13585714 = 0.951 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
truffles: its like playing chess again in years
truffles: id like to complete this chess thing asap
jurov: good things come to those who wait
BingoBoingo: truffles: play nubbins' yet? Has Namworld?
truffles: if it doesnt happen soon im gonna be like watevz
mircea_popescu: strictly an artefact of the flat national state. does not exist in sane environments.
mircea_popescu: and it is fundamentally not a scam, but an example of structure ATTACKING flatness.
mircea_popescu: structure is being reconstructed, which at the very far edge of course looks quite immoral. everything does. the civilising of barbarians, be they africans or 5 year olds, the birth of capitaism,
mircea_popescu: all attacks of a complex, superior system upon a primitive look like rape. in a sense they are.
mircea_popescu: in that sense, rape is the best thing that can ever happen to the victim.
mircea_popescu: converse attacks, where flatness attacks structure, can't even exist.
kakobrekla: This is the final notice for you to withdraw any funds that you may have remaining on Crypto Street. Effective February 28th, all remaining funds will be lost forever and donated away. So please login and withdraw any coins in your account. Big news is coming, but for now we need to take care of these house keeping details.
kakobrekla: sometimes i think you dont know me any more
kakobrekla: i was however bashing them on the forums
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.24310363 = 1.2155 BTC
kakobrekla: whats important is that im the bad guy
jurov: you should have silenced them with boobs, like mpoe does
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00092566 = 27.2144 BTC [-] {3}
kakobrekla: latest from slovenia zoo: lynx ate a chamois
mircea_popescu: i wonder how hungry a lynx has to get before it eats the chamois
kakobrekla: they said they gave them more than normal amts of food
ozbot: BitBet - Fico will be elected President of Slovakia
mircea_popescu: watch that by 2016 the us pres election fails to gather that much attention.
mircea_popescu: and it will be one of the funniest things in the entire history of btc / the century.
mircea_popescu: that sounds EXACTLY like o felie, which in romanian means "one loaf"
mircea_popescu: so what, she's a psychotic prostitute you gotta pay in watches ?
jurov: dunno.. cezch film, you know,
mircea_popescu: i like how there's all the shitty halfcountries represented here. romania but no hungary, slovakia but no czech, slovenia but no croatia etc.
kakobrekla: its the croatia that is the half county
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.0009302 = 37.301 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: if teh other romanians find out i said that about hungary ima have protests at the front door
jurov: ukraine needs to split too, we'll get more ppl here
mircea_popescu: maybe there's a guy from transnistria going "he-he-he" in his head right now.
ozbot: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]
mircea_popescu: who was that dude going on about how art should be tyrant and there should be no memory ?
mircea_popescu: cause srsly, he's like the gold bugs : all his life preaching, now we're doing it and somehow he doesn't know about it.
mircea_popescu: "If you don't think these are a steal you haven't researched the company.
mircea_popescu: This price values us at a meagre 12 million USD for the entire 25mill shares."
pankkake: getting logged as another user is actually a common bug, usually bad session rng
ozbot: Footage released of Guardian editors destroying Snowden hard drives | UK news | theguardian.com
mircea_popescu: welcome to the internet kakobrekla. glad you got your power back. skip 3 days of "news" nao :D
Duffer1: if he's not a sock for ken himself then i get to look forward to commiserating with another scam victim
kakobrekla: well the word is they will START to fix my area on SUNDAY
mircea_popescu: odds are he'll dump more of his meagre 0.000001 million on some other scammer.
mircea_popescu: dude, seriously, come here. what's the big deal ? rent a place for a month, then go back.
kakobrekla: no, all is ok here, but i need to go back home to take care of some stuff
ozbot: George Carlin Talks About "Stuff" - YouTube
kakobrekla: well, the lifes of people are invovled
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.24310363 = 2.1879 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.0475 = 0.19 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00092526 = 18.9678 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: >Discuss Ponzi.io with fellow investors
davout: i can't recall the name of the site that did the exact same thing in 2010
davout: MAYBE I GOT A PAYOUT !
davout: what we need is a provably fair ponzi
davout: i didn't realize the addy was static
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.0009296 = 11.7594 BTC [+]
davout: doesn't look like they're resending from the same address tho
kakobrekla: 14:43.59 ( Ken` ) 8:43 AM <RaTTuS|BIG> [11:53] <@MagicalTux> BitCoroner, because phantomcircuit found a security issue with showing this
mircea_popescu: lol wait. wut !? phantomcircuit FINDS security holes ?
davout: mircea_popescu: they usually start a couple weeks after marriage
kakobrekla: at this point i think phantom has all gox btc
mircea_popescu: davout i once heard anal sex momentarily paralyzes the colon. so if you do her in the pooper three times a month...
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla that's a great move, seeing how well he handled bitcoinica. the only reasonable explanation, being, of course, that "all mtgox btc" = ~18.5 ALT
kakobrekla: the refunded the broken txes but now the success rate of making a withdrawal is even lower, down to 25%
mircea_popescu: (i wonder how many people noticed the general pattern where people start doing deals with known scammers putting them in a fiduciary capacity as they're preparing to plausibly-deniably close up shop)
Duffer1: more about ActM - turns out trading for shares is open, on Crypto-Trade, but only one person has shares to sell, Ken, 200,000 at .0005
Duffer1: everyone is being kept waiting while he dumps
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.24310363 = 1.9448 BTC
mircea_popescu: fun fact : mtgox is pretty much the last remaining thing since the days before mpoe/mpex iirc.
kakobrekla: i dont know who since even this fact that its being sold was leaked but i do know the supposed date
jurov: inb4 nejc bought private jet
jurov: i hope he won't sell it to panama :D
Duffer1: i have taken to trolling him via haiku, i hope he keeps posting, i have more
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 he's really a poster child of 2013 retardation. i've had his history reviewed, he's pretty much all about all the wrong choices.
mircea_popescu: total dividend asicminer may still be paying ? "Just based off last years profit maybe another 200k btc"
ozbot: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
mircea_popescu: "Hoping colored coins takes off. I've heard mastercoin has a few cool features but that doesn't matter if its centralized."
mircea_popescu: it's just a brainfuckfest with him, i wish i understood how is it that people can never, absolutely never, no matter what happens make all the right choices,
mircea_popescu: yet about 1/3 of the population regularly makes all the wrong choices.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10557 @ 0.00092526 = 9.768 BTC [-]
ozbot: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]
pankkake: you're just trying to get banned while you can't internets
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11568 @ 0.000925 = 10.7004 BTC [-] {2}
davout: yeah that sounded cheap
pankkake: if I was her brother I'd be mad too, she can't sell herself properly
mircea_popescu: you seriously think going rate for avg junior hs tail is > $50 ?!
BingoBoingo: Maybe she figures she can gross more by bringing in volume?
pankkake: wouldn't underage at least provide a premium?
davout: why you gonna arbitrage it?
mircea_popescu: but srsly, i think bitcoin has fucked with your heads to the degree you have no idea what work money commands.
mircea_popescu: $50 is a WEEK worth of bussing/dishwashing for the average mexican yo.
mircea_popescu: in any major town there are literally hundreds of thousands of women under 30 living in places paid-for by the government, getting free food.
mircea_popescu: you think they click on lolpics all day liek teh boys ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3500 @ 0.000129 = 0.4515 BTC [+]
herbijud1estoids: so i have enough datapoints (assuming the ddos didnt disrupt my timeseries too much -- looks like it didnt) for a simple mean reversion model which works well in markets without market-makers/specialists/HFT bots
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
herbijud1estoids: i dont have enough datapoints yet to build the accompanying regime filter which tells you when market conditions are good or not for this model
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.0009211 = 12.3427 BTC [-] {2}
herbijud1estoids: but it looks like the trading is so 'pure' that it might not be necessary :P
ozbot: Bitcoinj 0.11 released : Bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00091992 = 7.2674 BTC [-]
ozbot: Only Your Heartbeat Can Unlock This Bitcoin Wallet | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
herbijud1estoids: also mircea_popescu i tried to query do a STAT with pympex but it didnt work, said i need to sign the key (which i obviously did), are you *sure* i dont need an account to run the queries?
davout: you need an account to stat
herbijud1estoids: and stat is the only command that gives you the trade histories, right?
mircea_popescu: you can get the mkt depth and vwap feeds w/o any account
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: X.EUR 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 0.00166971 high: 0.00170089 low: 0.00166114 volume: 3200 btc: 5.343075 30 day: average: 0.00178882 high: 0.002 low: 0.0016245 volume: 21739 btc: 38.88705537
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: X.EUR Bids: ['1200 @ 0.00166251', '4200 @ 0.0016245', '100 @ 0.00153846', '1000 @ 0.001', '100000 @ 0.0009945']
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1061 @ 0.00168488', '2200 @ 0.001773', '1350 @ 0.0019975']
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00092056 = 1.3348 BTC [+]
herbijud1estoids: mircea_popescu: no as in when the model is reporting a number below 50 you buy at market and when it goes above 50 you sell at market
herbijud1estoids: MPOE is probly the only stock in the world valued at its current value that you could do this on the microstructure without living in the exchange...how interesting is that!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves an "only your orgasm shrieks can unlock this wallet" would be moar better.
mircea_popescu: herbijud1estoids bitcoin revolutionizes finance, if well implemented by people with a clue you say ?
herbijud1estoids: at some point someone will come in and trade this with volume until the returns are close to cost of capital
jurov: herbijud1estoids: wait till you want to start actually talking to mpex's congenial interface
jurov: or savy yourself the suffering and talk to me first ;)
herbijud1estoids: mircea_popescu: different for different investors, but basically whatever it cost you :P
herbijud1estoids: if you think you have an edge and borrow a million dollars at 3% to implement an algo that trades this, then obviously your cost of capital is 3%+R&D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1648 @ 0.00012 = 0.1978 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: in Kelly criterion, what do you do given infinite EV propositions?
mircea_popescu: herbijud1estoids my point being that we have a serious problem in this space with that (and other) basic numbers.
herbijud1estoids: jurov: i really dont have the time to push this much further than i already am with work and other projects but if i get motivated and time i will definitely appreciate any help
mircea_popescu: according to mpbor it's something crazy like 1k% a year.
mircea_popescu: according to discounted future cash flow approach it's maybe 0.01% a year.
mircea_popescu: accorfding to the largest stock in the marketplace it's more like 0.5 - 0.2% a year
herbijud1estoids: ThickAsThieves: i would check the model to make sure its not broken and if not probly trade on a volatility adjusted level...i like ~15%/pa STDDEV
mircea_popescu: that sort of divergenge can only be interpreted to mean there's turbulence.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves in the universe in which the kelly criterion is meaningful, infinite ev is not possible.
mircea_popescu: otherwise in practical terms his heuristic sounds reasonable,
mircea_popescu: subject to parameter adjustment for your own convenience.
mircea_popescu: cause of the way the bondbod is financed, you familiar with that ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11707 @ 0.00092043 = 10.7755 BTC [-] {2}
herbijud1estoids: like i said, if i borrow a million for the endeavour of trading mean reversion model on MPOE at 3%, then my returns are only dependent on MPBOR in the sense that MPOE is the business handling MPBOR
herbijud1estoids: the twitter feed is fucking gold. i will learn how to pull data from it tomorrow and see if i can make some interesting graphs
herbijud1estoids: mircea_popescu: do you have a formal education in finance of any sort?
mircea_popescu: herbijud1estoids sadly it meanwhile got canned "for spam"
mircea_popescu: herbijud1estoids no. i have a personal education in finance.
herbijud1estoids: hope someone has congratulated you on the awesome thing you built and if not, congrats
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00298072 = 1.1923 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: as a rule tho, people lack the intellectual sophistication to have and use the tools to discern it, and then the time to do so.
herbijud1estoids: i only looked at pympex today and when i was reading the FAQ about "SPLIT" i thought goddamn genius
mircea_popescu: so for all practical purposes, allow me to welcome you into the church of mpex scientology.
mircea_popescu: you know ppl sort-of bitched at me about it, and i think they still don't think it's right but mostly take my word for it.
herbijud1estoids: anyway i should really bed. was supposed to wake up early and hassle some engineers in san fran but i got distracted watching boogie nights
mircea_popescu: anyway. i do believe it's more about what it'll hopefully blossom into than what it is yet.
mircea_popescu: i tried to watch capote and i couldn't get through the whole thing.
herbijud1estoids: never seen it before, some of the scenes at the start i thought was amazing...like the first time the guy catches his wife cheating on him
mircea_popescu: man's best performance is flawless, no dispute possible.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 19 @ 0.0077005 = 0.1463 BTC [-] {3}
herbijud1estoids: my fav movie with him in it is charlie wilsons war, but i guess its a subject matter thing
herbijud1estoids: i think rambo4 and charlie wilsons war should be mandatory viewing for all american citizens :P
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> i tried to watch capote and i couldn't get through the whole thing. --- mme too
mircea_popescu: why not "some came running" and "cat on a hot tin roof"
herbijud1estoids: rambo4? back when the taliban were the "brave and fearless men and women of afghanistan fighting for their freedom" to which the movie was dedicated
herbijud1estoids: havent you seen it man! omg...rambo takes the game right to those pesky commie bastards!
ThickAsThieves: "Or in other words, while the sauce for the goose works just fine for the gander, this point is well wasted on vegetarians : the stuff they eat doesn’t even have gender." << Cuz we mostly eat the gendery parts!
mircea_popescu: who knew vegans are dedicated to a strict regimen of gonads.
ozbot: Can vegans stomach the unpalatable truth about quinoa? | Joanna Blythman | Comment is free | thegua
herbijud1estoids: that came out today, obviously a moron funded by the cow council or something, but great to rile up the vegans with
herbijud1estoids: dude i am not gonna sit here and try and come up with a more evil cow related name than that
jcpham: beefenstick frozenfist winner winner
mircea_popescu: wait wait, the author's name is joanna blythe man ?! this is trolling, right ?
ThickAsThieves: "Joanna Blythman is an food writer, investigative journalist and broadcaster"
mircea_popescu: besides, there's a nice flattery bit at the top huh. aite, brb.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.00092377 = 27.2974 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56999969 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Exactly! I want to buy a pizza with 10k ATC and regret it later. I'm even willing to throw away a fraction of a Bitcoin (and regret that later too) for the experience."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1660 @ 0.00012001 = 0.1992 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00092647 = 8.6625 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Stephen Hawking shakes up theory (again): Black holes are actually gray - NBC News.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19193 @ 0.00091992 = 17.656 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell herbijud1estoids no fucken way hoffman's first thing is that 1997 atrocityu.
pankkake: black holes not black, pluto not a planet. damn scientists
nubbins`: i advance that nothing in your line of sight is black
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> black holes not black, pluto not a planet. damn scientists << SCAM
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Hoffman's first part seems to have been as random disposable criminal in Law and Order
mircea_popescu: bit parts mostly, but i'm sure his debut must be like 1990 or something
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Law and order started in 1990
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56999958 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: <nubbins`> well what is "black", really <<< something about dark matter and absence of light, still sorting it all out i think
mircea_popescu: CERN scientits announce : holes to be black in two weeks!
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves, it's all a continuum, tbf
ThickAsThieves: when i was young, men were women, and holes were black!
nubbins`: for most purposes, you can be lax with the definition
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56999959 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "and now here i am, surrounded by all this brown shit"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.5699996 = 2.85 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: spider sense tingling, bitcoin drama levels feel too depleted
gribble: Time since last block: 25 minutes and 56 seconds
ozbot: Fork The Blockchain And Block The Seized FBI Coins.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Late 90's was when the flood of spinoffs started
nubbins`: "Normally I'd ask for a share of the profits but this time it's free"
nubbins`: "We all just need to agree to craft a bogus block where the FBI coins get sent to 1BitcoinEater"
nubbins`: "The Fed's stole those coins."
nubbins`: not sure if he means "The Feds stole those coins." or "The Fed's stolen those coins."
nubbins`: turns out he's just a cat that's looking for a warm place to nap
pankkake: that's like their yearly volume
nubbins`: they didn't lose them, some guy put a QR code sticker on top of theirs
mircea_popescu: afaik they botched the entire receiving address thing, now they don;'t know who sent them btc.
nubbins`: i was reading a thread yesterday about this guy who ate at a restaurant that accepts btc
mircea_popescu: top the tune of AT LEAST 600 btc, beingone addy we know about
nubbins`: somebody put a sticker over the QR code by the cash
mircea_popescu: they're lieing about it, so clearly it's not the only one, nor they can cover.
nubbins`: poor diner was asked to pay twice
nubbins`: pretty sure the whole story was upvote-bait
nubbins`: especially considering the diner agreed to PAY HALF AGAIN
nubbins`: y'know, a thing that people would do after it's obvious to all parties that a ripoff occurred
nubbins`: anyway, i bellowed laughter at this:
nubbins`: "One of the officers even said "why didn't you just pay with real money?""
ThickAsThieves: well just go to restaurants with QR codes in pocket, pay yourself, then be all ZOMG what's happening!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 950 @ 0.00011202 = 0.1064 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [+]
nubbins`: qr code taped to reg makes about as much sense as a bucket full of cash and coins placed on the counter
nubbins`: "just dump your payment in here"
ThickAsThieves: but it works with tip jars and leaving cash on table/bar
nubbins`: "we'll probably figure it out"
nubbins`: nobody cares how much you tipped
nubbins`: drops what they're doing and runs to table
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00092213 = 6.2705 BTC [+]
nubbins`: i guess a better analogy would be
nubbins`: that the bucket is hidden from the cashier's view
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> well just go to restaurants with QR codes in pocket, pay yourself, then be all ZOMG what's happening! <<< sorta like the self-hitting pedestrians.
ozbot: Update - Statement Regarding BTC Withdrawal Delays : Support Desk
ThickAsThieves: "we are currently experiencing a problem where some bitcoin withdrawals are not being transferred correctly"
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> drops what they're doing and runs to table <<< i usually just dump the money on the table if the girl fed me or on the nightstand if she fucked me.
ThickAsThieves: "Those transactions have now been returned to customer accounts in full"
ThickAsThieves: "This problem applies primarily to larger transactions, so we appreciate your patience as we fix the issue. "
TomServo: He considered Gox to be a safer repository for bitcoin than his own probably-hackable computer. That judgment may not have been accurate.
mircea_popescu: "we're scamming, and we hope people we fucked foir a lot of money are like idiots and everything"
TomServo: Maaaaybe not. Still uncertain.
nubbins`: i actually signed up for an account on kraken after reading all this
mircea_popescu: but tbh, they deserve the reaming. if they missed april they can't be helped anymore.
ozbot: BBC News - Self-updating Bitcoin price tag shown off in east London
nubbins`: you guys don't have self-checkouts yet?
ozbot: This is what Trilema is for, I’m told. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
nubbins`: know who's faster at checking out your groceries? the person who does it for a living.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.24310363 = 0.7293 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.1306 = 0.653 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: i kinda prefer farmer markets tho. who buys groceries in a store ?
nubbins`: next thing you know, PLEASE PLACE THE SCANNED ITEM IN THE BAG. PLEASE PLACE THE SCANNED ITEM IN THE BAG. and there's a fuckin cashier helping you out anyway
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, there's a few farmer's markets around here but a grocery store within walking distance
nubbins`: oh sure, me too, but why drive when you can walk?
mircea_popescu: i got a driver, he can take the groceries back and i can carry on in town
nubbins`: plus newfoundland produces only about 10% of its own food supply, so farmer's markets aren't a general solution
nubbins`: you can maybe get local squash here now
mircea_popescu: anyway, bought a buncha smoked pork to hang in my attic... it's a pleasure
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1290 @ 0.000112 = 0.1445 BTC [-]
nubbins`: altho i did see a young couple walking two goats recently, so i suppose really it's more a question of motivation
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: mostly a lost art these days
mircea_popescu: well that sucks. colder climes need smoked meat and pickled veggies.
nubbins`: i know a few groups of hippies that do canning
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [+]
nubbins`: yeah, closest thing you'll find
mircea_popescu: small peppers stuffed with cabbage! cucumbers! beets! culiflower!
nubbins`: people don't really preserve things here as a general rule
mircea_popescu: there's at least a dozen different sorts of pickles i can't do without
☟︎ nubbins`: probably because our parent's generation grew up on a steady diet of salt cod
BingoBoingo: When the frost came so many of the tomatos were still green that we pickled them as a relish.
nubbins`: and were 100% turned on preserved foods by the time the big grocery chains moved in
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's why it;'s better to make salt pickes and smoke the meats
nubbins`: actually, come to think of it, my mother loves pickled beets
nubbins`: what can i say, sheltered life
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1075 = 0.215 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: if you like pickled things, find a korean restaurant
nubbins`: they are lords of fermenting and pickling
mircea_popescu: i'm romanian, stuff like this is like grounds for religious wars.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
mircea_popescu: as far as the romanian mother in low is concerned, the new wife can parade around naked stuffing pencils in her cunt all she wants
mircea_popescu: but god forbid the sits on the floor or messes up the pickles.
nubbins`: i do some dehydrating and keep a root cellar, grow some veggies in the warmer months
nubbins`: that's about the extent of it so far
mircea_popescu: if you have a root cellar you definitely can pickle cabage.
nubbins`: funny story, the root cellar is just the cupboards under the kitchen sink
nubbins`: could probably fit a couple heads.
nubbins`: not enough to ensure a constant supply
nubbins`: i've also been making sourdough bread for about a year and a half now
nubbins`: i even have a subscription to Mother Earth News ;(
mircea_popescu: "ochra. for when you feel the urge to know what the texture of corpse cunt is like"
nubbins`: the eventual goal is to become mostly self-sufficient
Duffer1: why you gotta ruin it for me :(
nubbins`: hopefully should have the big strokes worked out in the next 4 or 5 years
ThickAsThieves: Bill Gates to 'substantially increase time' at Microsoft after stepping down as chairman
mircea_popescu: nubbins` try pickling sometime, get a large earthen jug, fill it with nice firm cabbage heads, add water and a lot of salt.
Duffer1: what's the plan for electricity nubs?
mircea_popescu: then after the first few weeks each coupla days go there and spend ~10-15 minutes blowing air into the vessel
mircea_popescu: in about 4-5-6 months it's done. you'll know by taste.
nubbins`: Duffer1, wind doesn't work too well here, not sure yet
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Prolly realizes he quit to early and that BASIC interpreter thing isn't a business anymore.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: add some fish paste and chilies and you've got kimchi
Duffer1: i'm down to 1.5 jars of gramma's pickled cucumbers. needs to last 6months
mircea_popescu: anyway, that cabbage juice resultant is by far the best hangover cure in the world.
nubbins`: the best kimchi is old kimchi, 1 year or more
nubbins`: you use round cabbage or chinese?
ozbot: The coin prince: inside Bitcoin's first big money-laundering scandal | The Verge
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3297 @ 0.00012242 = 0.4036 BTC [+] {7}
nubbins`: i'll think on this, might be a nice experiment for the winter
mircea_popescu: you may wish to add some flavourings. horseradish is big here.
ThickAsThieves: "Shrem is 5 feet 5 inches tall, full-bearded, and high-energy. He’s the kind of guy who likes to party and loves to organize events, but also goes to his parents’ house every Friday night for dinner. "
nubbins`: well that's what got me thinking
nubbins`: i've been making this ghanaian dish lately, groundnut soup
nubbins`: fish or chicken, tomato paste, unsweetened peanut butter, ginger, onion, peppers
nubbins`: sounds terrible, tastes amazing
nubbins`: i'm actually still not sure why it tastes good
KRS-: Look, she is sitting on her face!
ThickAsThieves: well peanut butter and ginger are my two favorite flavors
nubbins`: then you owe it to yourself to try groundnut soup
ThickAsThieves: He was this plucky, short Jewish guy from Brooklyn who had computer skills and decided to start his own company, and he was living the Entourage life. I envied the kid up until a few days ago.
ThickAsThieves: "Charlie Shrem, right, exits Manhattan federal court with an unidentified person on Monday, January 27th"
nubbins`: couldn't be his dad with that mouth
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.15499998 BTC [-]
nubbins`: maybe the purse threw them off
nubbins`: okay, time to run some errands
ThickAsThieves: He was released on house arrest after his parents put up their house as collateral.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00092243 = 14.1132 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "gee son, i hope all that pot herping you did was a lot of fun"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.24310363 = 1.2155 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.15749999 = 2.52 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.24310363 = 1.4586 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.17 = 0.51 BTC [+]
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 2605968722.74 based on data since last change | 2831748964.63 based on data for last three days
KRS-: ouch..amazing how parents blindly support their kids, even in hopeless situations.
KRS-: not that this is hopeless..isn't money laundering a hard conviction to get?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22577 @ 0.00092673 = 20.9228 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: KRS- local joke : gypsy woman goes to her man with a very very filthy kid in tow
Duffer1: apparently they have his emails
mircea_popescu: KRS- money laundering is an impossible conviction to get against the actual people who launder money, ie banks. any conviction is extremely easy to get against a redditard kid from brooklin and his goretex wearing father.
mike_c: ooh, nice coinroll ad on bitbet.
mike_c: does jurov control that yet?
jurov: yes i put the ad there
jurov: but not full control yet
mike_c: planning any changes or you just going to run it better?
jurov: no. scrat and namworld are old owners and investors that are in search of a venue to IPO and get paid
jurov: and me and wao-ender are new owners
mike_c: interesting. good luck.
jurov: it's quite mess process, going on for 2 months, scrat was sick, etc.
jurov: indeed it;s fun :)
jurov: it's price per transistor. dunno how far from that we are.
jurov: admittedly, chumps may keep buying the transistor for several times more than mining reward
mircea_popescu: actually should i dig up the old discussion of that or were you around ?
jurov: i don't think we came up with any definite numbers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00092673 = 13.0669 BTC [+]
KRS-: mircea_popescu: haha funny..actually 2 jokes..local gypsys here are leaving. The county fair is wrapping up. Ya gotta love that food though.
KRS-: I mean..who fries winkies? Oreo cookies? Who knew?
ThickAsThieves: seems that maybe the bets regulation USG could do is require gov to run a mining farm
chetty: Sotomayor: Labeling Illegal Immigrants Criminals Is Insulting
mircea_popescu: chetty people do have a right to go wherever the fuck they please.
mircea_popescu: who gave obama a monopoly on the land between x and y ?
ThickAsThieves: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 2 @ 0.000269 = 0.0005 BTC [+] <<< good times
chetty: not if they come to suck gubermint tits
mircea_popescu: chetty gubermint has no right to have tits, nor does it have the right to use its tits as an excuse to bother people.
mircea_popescu: 't like its tits publicly handling it can go ahead and dress.
chetty: in a perfect world ...
mircea_popescu: just not lieing and not stealing, that's it. that's all. you don't even need an idea AT ALL. your chain can simply win because no premine and no schmooze.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 0.70604072 BTC to 616 shares, 114617 satoshi per share
ThickAsThieves: maybe i should make a bot that combines yogi quotes with coelho lines
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] [PAID] 5.10400000 BTC to 7`975`000 shares, 64 satoshi per share
ThickAsThieves: "I want to thank you for making this day necessary." -- On Yogi Berra Appreciation Day in St. Louis in 1947.
ThickAsThieves: "You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there."
Dimsler__: ThickAsThieves, unless you're one of the top 100 wallet holders who really cares
ThickAsThieves: <Dimsler__> ThickAsThieves, unless you're one of the top 100 wallet holders who really cares <<<< i missed something?
Duffer1: i'm more confused now than when you guys started your bit
mircea_popescu: anyway, straight man story : ThickAsThieves started a new altchain. for absolutely no reason. called a lark.
ThickAsThieves: basically, "If you aren't scamming us, than how will you make any money?!"
mircea_popescu: we're not actually pushing it, we're just lolling at it, observing it, thinking about it outloud.
mircea_popescu: check this out tat : i am the one guy in the entire world who owns THE LEAST ATC.
Dimsler__: the USPS is gonne have its own alt currency soon
mircea_popescu: because you got 0 right ? and so do all those other guys
mircea_popescu: but i actually own -1, cause i owe 1 to either mike_c or vexual
mike_c: vex, he paid me supposedly.
gribble: Error: "FUD" is not a valid command.
ThickAsThieves: never got the source, even after he told me to pay to same addy
mircea_popescu: the only begotten altchain of teh lord to save our etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.04954 = 0.9908 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: LTC difficulty is only 2,820? To the hole with LTC!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i say a lot of power, i mean a lot of power >D
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.1 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9198 @ 0.00092673 = 8.5241 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.24310363 = 1.2155 BTC
mircea_popescu: "Well good morning there, Brittany. Are you ready for today's lesson?"
mircea_popescu: "Oh yes, Daddy! I can't wait to find out what you're going to do to me today!"
mircea_popescu: "That's a good girl. I love your enthusiasm. You made Daddy so proud when you came to me on your 18th Birthday a few weeks ago and said you wanted to work at my whorehouse just like your mother and your older sisters.
BingoBoingo: Imma have to write and Altcoin post. Much hash. So Meta. Very Unmeme.
mircea_popescu: this guy's premise is that some dood's systematically whoring his family, and the only way he can think to introduce that premise is a Mr Exposition chorus ?!
ThickAsThieves: i have this runt cat, that never fully grew, but somehow she always finds her way to the highest places. when she gets there she lets out these little miniature roars
ThickAsThieves: by this point no one knows when i'm joking or just dumb
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.1 = 0.3 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: no wait, the proper thing to do is start a reddit thread, right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00092673 = 9.3136 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.24310363 = 0.9724 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00565828 = 0.1754 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1197 @ 0.00012943 = 0.1549 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.07810003 = 0.3905 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25393 @ 0.00092673 = 23.5325 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37050 @ 0.00092461 = 34.2568 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: "pre-mine consulting and strategy"
davout: it lacks the cryptsy-plugin generator
BingoBoingo: I doubt many new alts will go further than RIPple's greatest innovation whereby all coins were premined.
pankkake: NXT did it, and called it innovative
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00092817 = 28.1236 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: tbh i'd be very surprised if in fact he's scamming you.
ThickAsThieves: so i'm not supposed to overreact when people dont do things right away for me?
ThickAsThieves: pankakke, are you interested in helping create the source? or at least dumping the genblock?
mircea_popescu: you can dumb the genblock just by quering the altcoind
mike_c: how you going to bounty with no ATC?
pankkake: ThickAsThieves: I was going to reply on the thread… I'm not sure I can do it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC
ThickAsThieves: even if you have a different coingen'd source package to work from?
pankkake: a coingen sha256 would be a good base, at least I can replace the coin name :p
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
pankkake: I think he goes by unbalanced here too. we're in a lentghty e-mail conversation
wao-ender: lol, havellock is trying to do marketing with b.exch?
ThickAsThieves: <pankkake> a coingen sha256 would be a good base, at least I can replace the coin name :p <<< but really, if it is useful, surely one of the packages for download is that
http://coingen.io/status.html assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2032 @ 0.00092905 = 1.8878 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i dont actually make the CSS, just pictures of what it should look like
mircea_popescu: instead of ppl ordering ? they napkin-doodle what they want
jurov: did you make a picture css of neobee building too?
pankkake: feature request for altgen.io: create github repo :)
pankkake: oh coingen ships with a .git in it. good
pankkake: oh good at least I see that the pzsTimestamp is the same as Bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0495399 = 0.4954 BTC [-]
pankkake: however it changes "pchMessageStart" and I have no idea what it is :(
ThickAsThieves: i didnt mind HTML class, but once i got to javascript class, i was like fuck this bullshit
mike_c: lexical clojure is a pain
pankkake: ok well, either I'll have the source tonight or in a few days
ThickAsThieves: if it helps, Altcoin should be 512 Block Rate, 512 block value, 262144 halving, 268435456 total coins
BingoBoingo: feature request for altgen.io -> Moar hashing algorithms. At a minimum MD4
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
pankkake: BingoBoingo: quite annoying as you have to manage the pools too
jurov: soo, gox pulled weexchange
jurov: i mean, ukyo hints to some btc transactions corrupted by bitcoind
jurov: that cnnot be disclosed
BingoBoingo: pankkake: A plus of MD4 coin is you can pretty much instamine and them market make. Click post on the forum to make the thread. Then start your miner then... Profit! Chain mined before the thread gets a reply.
pankkake: you can instamine anything as long as the difficulty is low, or diff adjustment is bad
pankkake: which is the case for coingen, btw :)
mircea_popescu: then go "o oops, what you mean we said we'll turn off miners ?!?!"
pankkake: though of course it's scammers scamming scammers, and might not matter in the end
jurov: wouldn't you hit the maximal possible difficulty quickly with md4?
jurov: i.e. to make exact hash for the block
jurov: what about using rot13 then?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 323 @ 0.002984 = 0.9638 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: jurov: Sure Rot13 where the alphabet consists entirely of Zeros might be prefect.
mircea_popescu: the future of cryptography as seen @nsa, microsoft, etc : rot13 chain!
mike_c: i thought listing was yesterday?
BingoBoingo: Transactions from addresses are also signed by private keys which are also the addresses. Basically the same way credit cards work in the US, what could go wrong?
mircea_popescu: "could we have the last 4 digits of your address which is also your private key ? don't worry, we'll keep the rest secret nothing could possibly go wrong"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1500 @ 0.002985 = 4.4775 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i dun recall who originally posted that coupla days back
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1105 @ 0.002986 = 3.2995 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: this has a lot of implications for noob bitcoin devs btw
mircea_popescu: The scary thing was that I only thought of the true implications of this attack days later. As I was contemplating what had happened and how I could prevent it in the future, a very frightening thought occurred to me. This attacker started with Amazon because he knew that a commerce shopping site’s customer support would be relatively easy to convince and use to gain access to my account. However, that same site offe
mircea_popescu: rs cloud services that many startups rely on to host their data. My startup, Droplr, is completely based on Amazon’s stack, from using EC2 servers where we host all of our technology to S3, which we use for file storage. This attacker had access to all of it. I was extremely lucky that in his rush to gain access to @jb, he didn’t think to check if my account had anything under AWS.
ThickAsThieves: also good advice to not use your custom google apps domain email for registrations
jurov: as if normaln gmail would be harder to pwn
ThickAsThieves: no customer service reps for free Google Apps accounts
Duffer1: companies need to start investing in MPOE-PR brand customer relations
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4022 @ 0.00092764 = 3.731 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.14999999 = 0.3 BTC [-]
mike_c: mircea_popescu: have you ever helped someone who lost their mpex key?
Duffer1: has anyone ever lost a key?
mike_c: that's a tough line to hold. it will be interesting if you can keep that up.
mircea_popescu: happens to be the correct line to hold, so... whatever, they'll have to get it out of my cold dead hands.
mike_c: i would like to be able to use mpex with keys that i sign from my master key that i've registered with you. then i could use cardano with it.
mircea_popescu: imagine if hospitals were run on the principle of whether the customer was happy.
mircea_popescu: well ideally i should hope not, or else wtf, "which pill would you like to take today, mr j"
jurov: they give you antibitics not cuz you need them, but to make you happy
mircea_popescu: mike_c if you're really paranoid you can locally generate and sign pushes after each stat.
mircea_popescu: that way, even if you lose your key you can wipe your account for later.
mircea_popescu: and it's better in that i don't even need to verify anything.
mike_c: hm, that's interesting. i'll have to build that into pympex v2
mircea_popescu: like you now use key a, and spare is key b. after each stat for each asset push x to b signed and stored.
mike_c: after each stat so you push all your assets (which changes..)
davout: why not once for each asset with some high value
mircea_popescu: davout well that's the point where you find what assets you have.
davout: just make a stat per asset, and add pushes as assets are added to mpex
davout: sorry a push per asset
jurov: if qty is 99999999, it won't work?
davout: can't you say a bazillion and it takes the min from the qty and your holdings?
mircea_popescu: afaik if you don't have the right qty it tells you to fuck off.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00092768 = 7.3287 BTC [+]
jurov: one can make signed pushes for qty 1,2,4,8,16,32,...
jurov: and apply them from highest one
jurov: but orders must be taken from stat anyway
mike_c: that's not a bad backup too. sign those and bury them in the garden
jurov: can be. plenty karosa buses here, too
jurov: mircea how would you go about backing up keys from airgapped machine?
jurov: if you were mpex customer
jurov: and that machine to safe?
mircea_popescu: two machines connecting is no threat to either's airgap, provided the other's not going online
jurov: lol i keep backups all around, under strong passphrase
jurov: from various sources
mircea_popescu: so turn the privkey into a diced novella, print it, keep it around. w/e.
mircea_popescu: people'd be like "wtf does He foot dog went backwards air eloped mystical donglebunch." ?!?!?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40428 @ 0.0009255 = 37.4161 BTC [-] {4}
wao-ender: I was always thinking about it like, if computer catn decipher it, humans need to use inteligence
nubbins`: smh. phone is NINE DAYS out of warranty and won't charge, carrier tells me to PFO
nubbins`: 10/10, would do business with again
wao-ender: next time u will buy extended warranty
Duffer1: planned obsolescence is pretty annoying
mircea_popescu: and this is why i buy old models intended for the african market.
wao-ender: extended warranty is neat marketing, like with insurrance for 60years.
mircea_popescu: my ten year old non-gps phone without special sounds or bs charges just fine
nubbins`: in fairness, they did say i could order a replacement for only $269.99999999
nubbins`: i'll get what i want, just annoying because it takes so long
nubbins`: honestly the worst part is the hold music
nubbins`: apple phone support has looked up my info and suddenly has no problems with a free replacement
nubbins`: "oh shit, this is the guy who only good things happen to"
nubbins`: plus a few years of dev access
nubbins`: i think you just wanted to say OVER 9000
mircea_popescu: fun fact : the marginal cost for an extra girl is about 4k/yr for me atm.
mircea_popescu: like, you gotta feed her, house her, maybe even clothe her, at least after a few months.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: actually, i don't think i can even qualify my treatment as sexual harassment, let alone rape
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol ThickAsThieves you should have ofered 404 satoshi :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00092024 = 9.2944 BTC [-]
the20year1: mike_c: that's what the rep i was talking to said
the20year1: Technically i think we're live now, but not listed on the sidebar
ThickAsThieves: you cant see unpublic symbols without special permission
mike_c: do you have special permission?
mike_c: no point. i was just wondering if it was up.
mike_c: any particular reason you only PT'd s.mg?
pankkake: at the time there were many passthroughs elsewhere?
mike_c: i guess the volume is so small it's not even worth the headache.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.080004 = 0.4 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1620 @ 0.00012985 = 0.2104 BTC [+]
mike_c: index fund. i like that idea in general.
ThickAsThieves: but then I dont actually have supply of shares to share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00565801 = 0.1245 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: yeah, but seems there is value to managing the index fund instead of having to do it yourself.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 178 @ 0.00080556 = 0.1434 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
ThickAsThieves: basically, BTC going to 1000, combined with BTCT and BF dying, killed a lot of the market
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00012098 = 0.121 BTC [-] {7}
Duffer1: it was so legit it got shut down before the other
Dimsler__: well havelock is a pure boiler room
Dimsler__: filled with bs overvalued companies
ThickAsThieves: so legit that I had the only security on BTCT with a 0 score
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00564219 = 0.5642 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: hehe you still cant view btct.co market page without accepting "fantasy" disclaimer
mike_c: they have to keep that in the code for when they sell it
mircea_popescu: <Dimsler__> cause btct was the only legit one <<< so they said.
mircea_popescu: in the end, same story as their mother : -50% in half a year.
nubbins`: remember earlier how my phone was broken?
ThickAsThieves: BTCT had a buyer, and I emphatically told Burnsy TAKE THE MONEY NOW
Dimsler__: i've lived through the NY / TSX boiler rooms, can easily spot all of them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00091996 = 22.263 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: i just cleaned a massive amount of impacted lint out of the jack
Dimsler__: majority of the younger bitcoin nerds have no idea about financials
mircea_popescu: burnside knows better than anyone, he's an ex car mechanic or w/e, so it's to be understood.
Dimsler__: yeah and roger ver was a fireworks salesman
Dimsler__: and you are the romanian John Smith
nubbins`: so i guess i'll be a joke at whatever call center "allegra" works at
mircea_popescu: they're not even trying anymore, naming these is like namig cars.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: srsly, Sierra transferred me to Allegra
nubbins`: i started to suspect i was being had
mircea_popescu: "o hey valua... wanna go for drnks ? i'll buy you all the khalua you can put away"
mircea_popescu: imagine if the original inglebert humperdinck was trying to get hired.
nubbins`: "inglebert speaking, can i help you
mircea_popescu: actually i guess there's two clear sets of female made-up names : the stripper type and the customer service rep type
nubbins`: i'm amazed both at how much lint was in there, as well as my failure to remove it before driving all around the city and waiting on hold for 20 minutes
nubbins`: sierra just reminds me of video games
nubbins`: flailing around in a soup of words and ideas
nubbins`: "will trade life preserver for large bag of cereal or nvidia graphics card"
Duffer1: how much was burns offered?
nubbins`: kraken still hasn't verified my totally fabricated personal info
the20year1: I miss a10 2, betrayl at krondor and aces of the deep
nubbins`: * quest and the incredible machine here
nubbins`: TIM really stands the test of time
dub: allegra's real name is kumarapatayafackalukoa zing
ThickAsThieves: "Just to clarify - Ken is regaining ACtM monies not his personal BTC. The 106BTC has been taken off our balance sheet"
ThickAsThieves: or is this just another "we" as in being a part of something
ThickAsThieves: "My only advice is to buy some of these shares at 0.0005"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves anyway, if it makes you feel any better, burnside's "buyer" was more fluff than anything.
nubbins`: it's amazing that bitcoin caught on at all with the amount of fail permeating every aspect of it
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the relationship is inverse. bitcoin is backed by fail and drama. and butthurt.
the20year1: I know for a fact my brother made him an offer
dub: s/every aspect/the same tardcircle
mircea_popescu: basically... it's strateman fucking up bitcoinica and tux fucking up mtgox
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36686 @ 0.00092067 = 33.7757 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: which fucks up and they deny and so on and on. it's pretty much one group of idiots.
nubbins`: dogecoin would make me weep, were it not for the endless lels
nubbins`: mp, my grin is so wide that it squeezes my tear ducts shut.
nubbins`: It's almost a regular occurrence now where a dogecoin proponent will make a post here proclaiming his or her disgust at how terrible a community we are, how we're all a bunch of greedy jerks, and that we're not as friendly as helpful and all-around-amazing as dogecoiners.
nubbins`: Does anyone not see the contradiction in this behavior? The louder and more strident these proclamations become, the more they demonstrate the opposite of their claims.
nubbins`: i might as well just have my sides surgically removed
nubbins`: some srs hate flowing between /r/bitcoin and /r/dogecoin
nubbins`: general consensus is that btc isn't fun enough
mircea_popescu: They are only assholes to new people, not people that know all about bitcoin. My first experience with bitcoin users was asking them how do I buy it. The answers I got was "its so easy! How do you not know? You are stupid, its so simple" And lets not forget my favorite one..."If you don't know how to buy it, you shouldn't be buying it" For a new person to crypto, its basically like going into a restaurant with really r
☟︎ mircea_popescu: eally good food and the waiters are only being nice to and serving their friends and the regular customers. If you've never eaten there, they wont even seat you. Basically ensuring that new customers never come back, and I promise you, there is a lot of money out there that never got to buy bitcoin because of these assholes.
mircea_popescu: if this is in fact the experience bitcoin delivers i have won.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00091882 = 13.1851 BTC [-] {3}
nubbins`: "I think the dogecoiners protest too much, and that they are in fact the opposite of what they claim. We shouldn't put up with it and I'm glad we have moderators who delete those threads."
pankkake: bernankoin welcomes dogefugees
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: does he realize, i wonder, that the tables in that restaurant are already all taken?
mircea_popescu: pankkake i doubt you can inflate enough to keep up with the doge ppl.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` does he realise, i wonder, that the people in thar restaurant are not his skin color, not his skin odour and not his education level ?
pankkake: of course I can, the more the diff the more the inflate
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean i'm not welcome anywhere as i am!!11!!1"
ThickAsThieves: I'm gonna reply "See what happens when there are too many coin options? This is why I invented Altcoin! "
Duffer1: .."seized by their issuer to recover losses under lien. It's legal..."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.56999 BTC [-]
pankkake: award them the Internet Lawyer Diploma
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 52878 @ 0.00011202 = 5.9234 BTC [-] {9}
nubbins`: Ray Russell Reese III, that's a mouthful
Namworld: Can someone explain me why CBTC trades for almost 200 months of profits?
nubbins`: I've lost count of how many times people have confused my last name with "Reese"
nubbins`: Namworld: i don't think so, no :(
Duffer1: they probably think it's the next satoshidice
Namworld: Then Havelock says Coinroll wants too high a valuation.
pankkake: > havelock says too high valuation
Duffer1: i'm having trouble believing that havelock said a valuation was too high
Namworld: They take just about anything, but they don't want Coinroll
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P410T] 1000 @ 0.38203597 = 382.036 BTC
pankkake: cbtc is supposed to announce an acquisition
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P500T] 1000 @ 0.4879146 = 487.9146 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P485T] 1000 @ 0.47026816 = 470.2682 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.45262172 = 452.6217 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P455T] 1000 @ 0.43497529 = 434.9753 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P440T] 1000 @ 0.41732885 = 417.3289 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P425T] 1000 @ 0.39968241 = 399.6824 BTC
mike_c: check the manual, how do you withdraw from mpbor :D
nubbins`: ;;calc (382+487+470+452+434+417+399)*[ticker --last]
nubbins`: if you're buying us all ice cream, i prefer chocolate
mircea_popescu: by the looks of it i may end up buying someone a new yacht
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P500T] 1000 @ 0.48788011 = 487.8801 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P485T] 1000 @ 0.4702347 = 470.2347 BTC [-]
nubbins`: cover the berthing fees for a year and you've got yourself a deal
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.10333326 = 0.31 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.4525893 = 452.5893 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P455T] 1000 @ 0.4349439 = 434.9439 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P440T] 1000 @ 0.41729849 = 417.2985 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P425T] 1000 @ 0.39965309 = 399.6531 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P410T] 1000 @ 0.38200769 = 382.0077 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: when you get no customers you're depressed. but then when you do, you're worried.
nubbins`: ;;calc (382+487+470+452+434+417+399+487+470+452+434+417+399+382)*[ticker --last]
ThickAsThieves: not being accusatory, but would this be a way for MPEX to squeeze MPBOR writers?
mike_c: who said the speculator is going to win?
ThickAsThieves: well the idea would be for tyhe speculator to lose intentionally
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.11576666 = 0.3473 BTC [+] {3}
mike_c: if speculator loses bondholders make money
mike_c: cuz lots of capital required = lots of interest
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 122.22370491 / 121.39535668 / 120.63410743 (14 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P500T] 1000 @ 0.48820451 = 488.2045 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P485T] 1000 @ 0.47054938 = 470.5494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P470T] 1000 @ 0.45289424 = 452.8942 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P455T] 1000 @ 0.43523911 = 435.2391 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P440T] 1000 @ 0.41758397 = 417.584 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P425T] 1000 @ 0.39992884 = 399.9288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P410T] 1000 @ 0.3822737 = 382.2737 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: well i suppose on the positive angle... this probably takes mpex avg trade pretty close to mpex account fee
nubbins`: ;;calc (382+487+470+452+434+417+399+487+470+452+434+417+399+382+488+470+452+435+417+399+382)*[ticker --last]
ThickAsThieves: ;;calc (382+487+470+452+434+417+399+487+470+452+434+417+399+382+488+470+452+435+417+399+382)*5000
nubbins`: wait, you mean romania doesn't house the destitute for free?
mircea_popescu: no because it's run by nazi assholes who don't believe in welfare.
mircea_popescu: "ActualMoney HACKED! 70 million people's wallet information stolen! Wallet's flawed! May need to upgrade wallets to new version!"
pankkake: hahaha sometimes reddit delivers
nubbins`: $8m USD in bennies would make it rain pretty hard
nubbins`: they do use cotton paper, yes?
mircea_popescu: so i guess bitbet killed last month... mpex kills this month...
mircea_popescu: we're sort-of taking turns to act as an executive officer for the week...
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: But $8m USD in pennies... Depending on how high they fall from might qualify as a mass casualty incident (hashtag)BitRichTerrorism
pankkake: so next month the cardano is shipping?
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: canada has abolished the penny, it's the way forward
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Also cotton fever is from when you get the filter cotton stuck in your veins because Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Namworld: How much collateral would a P500 require right now?
nubbins`: i was getting confused with cotton lung
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: real men don't filter anyway
mike_c: ;;calc 500/[ticker --last]
ThickAsThieves: so through inventing nothing i provided AM100 liquidity
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, there was a "performance artist" here years ago who chugged a bottle of wine up his ass and attempted to shit it out
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P455T] 250 @ 0.43518255 = 108.7956 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P440T] 700 @ 0.41752928 = 292.2705 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P425T] 1000 @ 0.39987601 = 399.876 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P410T] 1000 @ 0.38222274 = 382.2227 BTC [-]
nubbins`: in his defense, chugging a bottle of wine with his ass was indeed a performance
dub: real men dump gear into syringe, add hot water
nubbins`: dub, they don't make funnels that small!
dub: I knew a few peopel who did that
nubbins`: ;;calc (382+487+470+452+434+417+399+487+470+452+434+417+399+382+488+470+452+435+417+399+382+108+292+399+382)*[ticker --last]
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: whatever they want!
gribble: A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 10067544.3676 USD and would take the last price up to 1090.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 1006.7544 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0854 seconds
nubbins`: or whatever you call one of them
gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 21066.667 bitcoins, for a total of 39555715342.1433 USD and take the price to 3600000000.0000. | Data vintage: 52.3027 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.155 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Nah, has to be gox, since all of their money is of the monopoly variety they can push their price wherever they want.
kakobrekla: yea but phantom will handle gox default
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.155 = 0.775 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i guess we see if there's further divergence.
nubbins`: "If recent trends continue, Microsoft could overtake Apache within the next few months, ending Apache's 17+ year reign as the most common web server"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.24310363 = 1.4586 BTC
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well I mean the other possibility is maybe Secondmarket's fund which has been buying almost exclusively OTC has run out of sellers and needs to go to an exchange.
Diablo-D3: microsoft doesnt even have a web server that works on linux
Diablo-D3: second, didnt nginx already surplant apache?
Diablo-D3: only legacy sites run apache anymore
pankkake: yeah, nginx is probably serving more than apache
Diablo-D3: apache is still a lot slower than nginx, and I dont know why
Diablo-D3: and theres no built in support for spdy
pankkake: it's hard to count though. per domains? ips?
pankkake: I have plenty of domains, and subdomains
Diablo-D3: microsoft doesnt even host microsoft.com on IIS
Diablo-D3: in fact, I didnt even know IIS was still around
pankkake: and typically, you can have subdomains hosted with different servers
mircea_popescu: basically one of the squatters moving ot a ms outfit can account for the entire "trend"
nubbins`: Diablo-D3, what did you think all those .NET sites ran on?
BingoBoingo: There's also the thing where any number of pwned windows boxes can become IIS servers
nubbins`: unless it's changed in the last couple years
Diablo-D3: and like a third of .net sites use mono
Diablo-D3: plus, you never connect that shit directly to the net anyhow
Diablo-D3: you proxy them for ssl and caching performance
nubbins`: 1/3 of .net sites use mono, really?
Diablo-D3: because they cant host them on the internet anywhere if they dont
Diablo-D3: unless they shell out for a dedi at a company that allows windows
ThickAsThieves: my desire for more bitcoin drama this morning has been sated by all these options sales :)
nubbins`: TBH that's the biggest ? in all of this
nubbins`: but the point about mono helps explain it
Diablo-D3: the text of that article doenst even make sense
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P410T] 666 @ 0.38217745 = 254.5302 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: for the record, the record is 482`472 BTC notional trade. back in march.
nubbins`: yeah, i got tangled up there too
dub: yeah or your junk will fall out
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves, was wondering about the smell
nubbins`: i mean, it always stinks like dick in here
nubbins`: yeah, a different sort of musk
pankkake: 0, as I didn't make the association before
nubbins`: elon = eww, like, overwhelming nausea
nubbins`: struggling for an "e" word to go with "lord, our noses"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.15899987 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.24310363 = 1.2155 BTC
benkay: nerds make tasteless jokes?
nubbins`: "Everybody needs loving and understanding. People get their courage to live from loving and understanding. Understanding means listening and compassion. Rape victims have to gather their courage to live in order to stand on their dignity and to face future."
mircea_popescu: people don't get their "courage to live" from a bunch of other dorks.
benkay: but a hug and a shoulder to cry on can help the poor abused kitten return to normal.
nubbins`: "Heather is a young rape victim. She would die if she could not stand on her dignity and no future. Unfortunately the persistent bullying online and calling her a "slut" in her community show that nobody would listen her and there is no compassion towards her. A person willing to die causes the person's attempting suicide. Whether is Heather attempting a suicide?"
dub: why is part of canukistan named after two dogs?
☟︎ pankkake: actually, the bunch of other dorks makes you want to kill yourself more
nubbins`: dub: the obvious answer is the correct one.
dub: crack smoking mayors?
dub: crack has to come into it clearly
nubbins`: actual answer is that both breeds originated from here
nubbins`: they have a common ancestor in the St. John's water dog
nubbins`: well, that's the funny thing about "seems"
nubbins`: not as funny as the fact that the newfoundland dog was bred in labrador and the labrador retriever was bred in newfoundland
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22806 @ 0.00092181 = 21.0228 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.13200001 BTC [-]
benkay: great danes are large and gentle as well
nubbins`: but i don't understand the order in which you've put them
nubbins`: but i don't understand the order in which you've put them
mircea_popescu: just simple pattern matching dood. the last time i was talking to someone telling me about how "it's great, so goddamn big but gentle" the subject was penis and the speaker a slut.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.132 = 0.264 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.24310363 = 0.4862 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 799 @ 0.00433582 = 3.4643 BTC [-] {18}
nubbins`: you may wish to tweak your algo
jcpham: i have a husky indoor and i want to kill that fucker
jcpham: imagine if it chews anything
nubbins`: the newfie dog also graces the box of one of my favourite local beers
nubbins`: jcpham, consider chew marks on the window sill behind the sink
nubbins`: i can't recall if newfoundlands were bred from labs
jcpham: might get bored and chew the middle or top of a door frame
nubbins`: anyway, i generally don't like dogs at all, but these big fluffy fuckers are great
jcpham: i'd hate trying to dominate and train it too
jcpham: large male indoor dogs have to be dominated yo
nubbins`: nah, they call these things "gentle giants"
jcpham: i'd stare at it until it sits it's ass down
ThickAsThieves: i had a gf that had a newfie, they are very gentle, but also kinda fragile
jcpham: gentle giant and everything
jcpham: but if it's labrador genome it's probably docile
jcpham: i've got a hell of a fucked alpha male living with me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
nubbins`: labs are docile if you train them, hard to train tho
nubbins`: they're fucking idiots if you don't
jcpham: i should've done more research on siberian huskies
jcpham: fucking dog challenges me daily for supremacy
nubbins`: wow, largest newfoundland was 260lbs
nubbins`: "a newfoundland dog lying next to its combed-out seasonal undercoat"
jcpham: yeah the multiple coats
jcpham: which means more shedding
chipug: anyone any ideas how to get hold of someone pretty far up the chain in bitcoin to explain to some authority types?
jcpham: here i am. I'm approximately 72% up the chain right now
dub: al top of the bitcoi nauthority chain
chipug: i mean i need someone to talk to government
nubbins`: chipug, what sort of chain are you looking for someone to be far up?
benkay: important? sounds important. also amazing.
nubbins`: chipug: maybe you'd better start with exactly what you're trying to do
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00092887 = 6.1305 BTC [+] {2}
chipug: i would like to find someone to talk to the scottish government about bitcoin
jcpham: bitcoin + important sounds life changing
benkay: why can't you, chipug?
chipug: theyve just decided its illegal
chipug: and they are having another conference
nubbins`: chipug: would the scottish government like to talk to someone?
chipug: i know one of the head procurator fiscals
dub: they're drunk tell them to go home
chipug: and i wondered if someone would talk to himn and tell him what a fucking idiot he is being
chipug: i know it wont but would you rather i didn't try when i have heard this on the QT??
nubbins`: honestly i don't think any of us care
chipug: this isnt public knowledge
mike_c: it's public rumor now, not knowledge quite yet
chipug: no worries, just thought folk would care if the government are looking at seizing it
dub: as soon as bourbon barrels are only exchangable for bitcoin they'll roll over like the scotsmen they are
nubbins`: chipug: walk through the steps of a bitcoin seizure in your head
chipug: mike_c: i hope the rumour mill does something more than the deaf ears i met
chipug: nubbins, i didnt come to get bitched at
jcpham: these bastards and their laws
chipug: just thought might be good for someone that can explain technically and historically to tell them that it isnt all criminal activity - which is what they concluded last week
nubbins`: chipug: i know, but i don't think you fully understand what you're talking about
jcpham: i'm purposefully lacking credentials
chipug: of course i don't nubbins! why the fuck do you think i am here now?!
bigboss: who bet 10m that bitcoin will be over 4500 next month
nubbins`: because you think this is a thing that (a) people would worry about and (b) your government can do something about
Duffer1: bigboss someone with the resources to make it happen
chipug: i heard about this through family and i just thought, fuck that doesn't sound good. I wonder if someone could help things. I apologise to all for that
nubbins`: two false assumptions that brought you here
jcpham: do you have 10 million dollars to bet with bigboss?
nubbins`: hey, apology accepted. stick around for a chat
chipug: doesnt seem to be too fun to chat so far
jcpham: nubbins` is mad because he hasn't sold that .5 silver cas coin yet
benkay: chipug: the attitude to bear is "don't fuck with bitcoin" not "oh no this is going to hurt bitcoin"
nubbins`: we're just taking ths piss out of you
nubbins`: jcpham: i sold one two weeks ago for 6btc
chipug: thanks benkay that's advice i can use at least
nubbins`: jcpham, i still have 3 or 4 more to sell
benkay: it'll explain your experience here today.
chipug: no wonder folk don't hang around this community, i was right the first time
Duffer1: i would wait until next month to buy one hehe
jcpham: sorry i sold everything for dogecoin weeks ago
nubbins`: chipug: i hope they don't make dogecoin illegal next :(
nubbins`: Duffer1: sounds good, the price should be higher by then :D
chipug: nubbins`: ok, good for you?
jcpham: stay away from the log chipug, itsatrap
nubbins`: chipug: now who's being rude? ;(
chipug: nubbins`: treat those how you want to be treated back
nubbins`: anyway, we're only giving you a hard time because you've incorrectly identified something that isn't a problem as being a huge problem
kakobrekla: where can i send you all my coins chipug
nubbins`: no hard feelings, toughen up, etc :)
ThickAsThieves: I'm spreading the word of MPEX to the Tradingview.com crowd
chipug: ok nubbins, maybe you couldve just said: think you are worrying unecessarily like benjay did
jcpham: kakobrekla is also pretty close to the top of the blockchain
nubbins`: chipug: but then how would i keep up the appearance of being an asshole?
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: How many threads do they have on Doge?
chipug: does ignore work on irc?
dub: this is quite the accelerated noob cycle
dub: Hi I need help, fuck you all im ignoring you
lippoper: 138 satoshis today, 2 days ago 186
lippoper: still, nothing we haven't seen before
nubbins`: click on a user's nickname and press alt-f4 to permanently ignore them
lippoper: but it's fun to see the noobs panic selling
dub: lippoper: still 186 times more than its worth
lippoper: dub: that's like saying bitcoin is still worth 800 times more than its worth
dub: we should continue thi sin #dogecoin
lippoper: (4:09:14 PM) lippoper: dub: Rub-a-dub-dub, dogecoins to da moon!
ThickAsThieves: of course another crowd is scared of mpex... "OK well this makes no sense to me, maybe someone can help me here? I just want to verify the trade is all. Nothing on that page even says bitcoin lol"
jurov: so, these whale options have breakeven around 850?
jurov: seems benkay again provided me with wrong formulas
mike_c: yes, they break even around 850
jurov: instead of (strike / (1 + buyprice)) / lotsize it's (strike/lotsize)/(1+(buyprice/lotsize))
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jurov: let's bribe nanotube to fix it
jurov: oh that's mpexbot not gribble
jurov: they used 848.37 on opex. that isn't gox price
chipug: hi mircea_popescu sorry, what i miss there?
ThickAsThieves: "crikey! I'd like to cover this on Cryptocoins News can I contact you tomorrow about this?" mircea_popescu, I gave him your contact info
mircea_popescu: chipug you wanted someone up the pole or w/e, you're talking to him. now what ?
chipug: oh i'm really sorry mircea_popescu apparently, there's no point and i should just shut up
mircea_popescu: chipug don't take what ppl say to heart eh. if nobody knows you and you behave "weird" you'll get trollbaited.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [-]
kingofsports: mircea i saw the large option purchase on btctalk...it looks like it was puts being bought not calls as u said in chat.
☟︎ chipug: thanks mircea_popescu, still a bit wide eyed in life has to be said. explanation: gvt are investigating bitcoin in scotland and the procurator fiscals have decided its bad and dodgy etc etc and they are having another conference. I had wondered if it might help if someone explained where they are wrong
the20year1: although it doesn't get all their trades
jurov: So they sold puts to mpoebot?
kakobrekla: what do you mean it doest get all their trades?!
mircea_popescu: kingofsports puts sold short = long play, which is what i said.
kingofsports: so wait...i thought he bought the option to buy like 5-10k btc if price falls below 500 or whatever he chose (some 470 445 and 410). how is this a long play?
mircea_popescu: o, that. so go to #bitcoin-assets-trades for all the dust.
jurov: either they got margin from mp or they needed 50k collateral O.o
kingofsports: to who? mpex buys puts? i thought u just wrote them
benkay: "market maker" is the term of art kingofsports
chipug: is it possible for one country to ban bitcoin and everyone else use it still or would others just follow suit you think?
benkay: chipug: again, don't think in terms of people doing stuff to bitcoin. bitcoin is here, and the world must now deal with it. that in now way entails saying no to the changes it will bring.
benkay: kingofsports: options called out with a T are for this month, N for next.
kingofsports: mpex paid him .488 per BTC for a 30 day option for $500 or below...that seems like way too much.
jurov: it's in need of rewrite but basic info is there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: i think kingofsports got the denomination wrong
jurov: yes but the strike is actually 5000 USD/BTC
kingofsports: this shit is so confusing. on mpoe it says $500 strike price. put option. a put cant be a strike price above the current price...2nd why would mpex pay .488 BTC per 1 BTC option for $5000 strike price. that is an insane fee. i wouldnt pay more than 0.05
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22250 @ 0.000931 = 20.7148 BTC [+] {4}
kakobrekla: kingofsports thats why you dont have 5k btc or w/e
mike_c: i'm in a good mood today
Duffer1: kingofsports the ticker would read 050 if the strike was 500$
mike_c: no, they are lots of 100 hBTC
kingofsports: now what is 1000 @ .488 = 488 BTC mean? No way mpex bought that option for 488 BTC.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.129 = 0.258 BTC [-] {2}
kingofsports: I'd sell that option anyday. 400% gain in price in 30 days. VERY doubtful.
mircea_popescu: kingofsports mpoe bot bought 1k lots of .1 btc for .488 each, worth 488 total
kingofsports: so for .488 BTC you have the ability to buy how many BTC option wise for $5000 should it reach that pricew?
kakobrekla: 22:33.28 ( kingofsports ) I'd sell that option anyday. 400% gain in price in 30 days. VERY doubtful. < never happend in btc, ever.
kingofsports: thats why kako. if mpoe wants that option for such a huge gain id offer it.
mircea_popescu: kingofsports, calculate for me the present value of one put option on 1 btc struck at 5000 dollars.
kingofsports: according to your site its .488 BTC for 1 BTC option.
mircea_popescu: never mind that. this is a basic skill, calculating present value of options. do so.
jurov: ;;calc (5000-852)/852
mircea_popescu: so there you have it, jurov enables cheating and thus ensuring people never learn anything.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, a 1 btc put struck at 5k is worth tm about 4.86 btc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3060 @ 0.00092406 = 2.8276 BTC [-]
mike_c: i always think of it as (strike / spot) - 1
kingofsports: i thought u couldnt offer a put when the strike price is below current price.
jurov: and why is mpoe buying them at present value?
mircea_popescu: mike_c that also works. it's really basic fractions after all.
mike_c: yeah, just a different mental model
kingofsports: strike price above current price. thought that would only be a call type option.
mircea_popescu: jurov apparently mpoe doesn't think 852 is the number.
the20year1: I think everything is approved at havelock now mike_c
kakobrekla: be careful TO spend it before it hits 4k
mike_c: it's basically buying them at present value and paying nothing for time value
jurov: but if price will get > 850 on opex mpoe will lose
jurov: and if it will be ~ 1400 it will be ~50% loss
mike_c: mpoe doesn't have to wait til the end to exercise
mike_c: any time between now and then that it's profitable it can close (and does)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 8.30025573 BTC to 3`000`000 shares, 276 satoshi per share
jurov: mike_c: right, hope they manage
mircea_popescu: chipug welcome to finance! it IS a different language.
chipug: hahaha i love the url already! thanks mircea_popescu!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 262 @ 0.00081996 = 0.2148 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.003 = 0.288 BTC [+]
mike_c: the20year1: good to hear, congrats.
chipug: I'm a fan of any article that references herding cats, but aside from that, I don't aspire to move or shake, just learn. also, does someone proof for you mircea_popescu?
mike_c: no time for copyediting at the rate he publishes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.115 = 0.46 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: next they'll put a penguin up there or some emu or something
Duffer1: like they halfassed a QRcodefont
ThickAsThieves: they forgot it was only boat-shaped to fit the silly cube from the prior logo
mircea_popescu: which cube was already a descend into suck, as their prev logo was still better
jurov: i must have been asleep when i published that... what is a / (1 / b) equal to?
jurov: oh kingofsports is away
jurov: at least benkay is here? try redeem yourself :D
ThickAsThieves: "BitcoinJ is widely used across the Bitcoin community; some users include Bitcoin Wallet for Android, MultiBit, Hive, blockchain.info, the biteasy.com block explorer (written in Lisp!), Circle, Neo/Bee (Cypriot payment network), bitpos.me, Bitcoin Touch, BlueMatt's relay network and DNS crawler, academic advanced contracts research and more."
ozbot: Twitter / Wu_Tang_Finance: CRYPTOCURRENCIES RULE EVERYTHING ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00092836 = 10.212 BTC [+]
benkay: wu tang finance is inferior white people in blackface
benkay: you have to be an american jew to do that black music well, or actually grow up in the ghetto.
ozbot: Request for information for lawsuit against Michael Marquardt / Theymos : Bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28957 @ 0.00093169 = 26.9789 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: additionally on the bitcoinj topic, the litecoin folks have put together some funds to hire someone to port it to litecoin.
dub: ThickAsThieves: pot holes in ur blog too eh
chipug: loved the thermos thing
chipug: he never responded to that did he?
jurov: he responded on earlier reddit post it's linked there
ozbot: Twitter / jgarzik: Decentralized #bitcoin auction ...
ThickAsThieves: <dub> ThickAsThieves: pot holes in ur blog too << i skim, and 2dopeboyx
chipug: woah jurov i was meaning the thermos typo and the ensuing piss takes. didn't know MNW was back bumping his gums
benkay: mircea_popescu: 'cause google?
BingoBoingo: benkay: The anti-fungibility and other stuff
mircea_popescu: pretty much what he's doing is trying to fuck up bitcoin.
jcpham: can't take that guy seriously
benkay: oh he's behind the antifungibility song and dance?
mircea_popescu: hearn is the guy that answered experimentally the usg's question as to "what happens in case of major bitcoin fork ?"
benkay: sounds like assume bitcoinj is trash, in that case.
ThickAsThieves: Hearn is the kinda guy that tells Amazon they should do drone delivery system
BingoBoingo: benkay: You may be able to fork and earlier version of BitcoinJ. Whatever runs Multibit 0.5.11 seems... The least bad SPV option. SatoshiDice had been running off of an older BitcoinJ for quite some time.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15065 @ 0.00092836 = 13.9857 BTC [-]
benkay: this punk thing was cool when kdrake put his together. auctionpunk is just shameless derping.
mircea_popescu: this will be a trending topic. "hey guise remember me ? i donated 0.35 btc to your project in 2010.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i lost all my btc playing dice sites and being scammed on cantina marketplace
mike_c: i hate that reasoning. like snackman saying "now i was scammed for $100k!"
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Basically the difference is Open Transactions guy started his thing in 2012 and pretty much only knotwork uses it. Mastercoin guy announed his thing in 2013 and... Profit!
mircea_popescu: i sponsored it with some btc in 2012 iirc and it was ancient then
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.129 = 1.161 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: mike_c at least gives kids something to do. rather than them keeping track of the pretend value of their "investments"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.1243 = 0.2486 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't know the exact open transactions birthdate, but it seems older than me
mike_c: hah, yeah. there's even a website for it isn't there? btc sob stories.
ozbot: Dogecoin community raises money to send service dogs to kids and families in need | The Verge
ozbot: WARNING: PAYPAL STARTED MASSIVE ACCOUNT BAN ON ANYTHING BITCOIN RELATED
mircea_popescu: "Dogecoin Control Group is running out of retarded sacharine stories to pump their scammy coin. Strangely, the "defraud early investors" thing they pulled yest isn't mentioned"
jcpham: i personally dump dogecoin daily
jcpham: might as well float these dogecoiners on for awhile though
ozbot: Fee deducted from the transferred amount. Insane.
chipug: I wanted to see how pool mining worked, so I used doge. then i was given some. I don't know what i should be doing with them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.12310001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: chipug anything that doesn't involve you trading anything you value for them
jcpham: i trade it for btc and encourage others to do the same
chipug: i only have 2041 (lol the 41 was my mining experiment)
jcpham: that's like an hours worth
chipug: yeah i was satisfied at that point
chipug: i just wanted to do the process
mircea_popescu: chipug on an optimistic view they're worth like a bitcent or two.
mircea_popescu: "Your words are nothing but attempt to darken our company. "
BingoBoingo: chipug: Go on Bitcointalk and trade your Doge for Altcoin
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Only one way to find out...
chipug: is this your one ThickAsThieves?
chipug: should i take that as a negative flag?!
ozbot: ******* EXPOSED FRAUD WARNING **************
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.119 = 0.238 BTC [+]
chipug: i'm sorry guys but i see the forum like a daily soap or something. i can only find 8% serious
jcpham: I wouldn't read the forum on any type of regular basis
chipug: it really is it times. i really wish i had seen the cosby coin fiasco
jcpham: I showed it to my boss and he was like WTF close the browser now
chipug: lol so wish i had seen it
jcpham: best .js i've seen in a hack in a few years
chipug: if any hacking needs to be done, at least add in something funny
chipug: they were all over the forum too werent they?
chipug: another issue i have with btctalk community is i find out later I've been speaking to the same person about a hundred times, no idea
ozbot: Putin Critic Finds 200-Pound Wooden Cock On Roof Of Her BMW
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know about a year ago i made an invite only forum
mircea_popescu: it died, because i didn't invite idiots and everyone got bored and went back to btctalk
mircea_popescu: the forum's overthere, mpoe-pr sends me the nuggets...
chipug: BingoBoingo: i like how the mother in the background isn't caring about her young child, too busy snapping the giant cock in front of them both.
benkay: children should be more frequently exposed to genitalia.
BingoBoingo: chipug: Well, good parents realize they have to let their children fall and realize ice is slick
chipug: we just killed our site to get rid of the arseholes
chipug: quiet while we build it back up
chipug: i wasn't thinking on the falling, more the giant cock in front of her
chipug: "mum, why doesn't our car have a huge penis on it?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 739 @ 0.00082103 = 0.6067 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Journalists at Sochi are live-tweeting their hilarious and gross hotel experiences
chipug: there is a forum coming, in a while
chipug: crypto finance forum with a private section
chipug: no goats, i don't know him
chipug: are you meaning trolly goat from btctalk?
chipug: the forum does present this weird thing of knowing who people are without ever having spoken to them. like when you know people at school just from attending the same building
KRS-: Lol they be trippin over the logo and shit.
chipug: holy shit preev. the forum really has 4.5 mil???
assbot: [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C095T] 880 @ 0.02475688 = 21.7861 BTC [+]
ozbot: Twitter / bitcoin_txt: I informed the manager and ...
KRS-: ThickAsThieves: What is it about ATC that allows everyone to finally focus on ONE coin? Looks like you just added another.
benkay: reason fifteen million bitcoin is not consumer tech
chipug: amazing how all these people who were like fuck LTC are lining up their doge wallets nicely underneath their btc addresses for tips
chipug: do you guys all trade as your primary business?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13948 @ 0.00093045 = 12.9779 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: chipug, no, not everyone trades as primary biz
kakobrekla: i dont know if anyone does that at all
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 122.22370491 / 98.04225811 / 97.72401779 (894 shares, 22.39 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
ThickAsThieves: <KRS-> ThickAsThieves: What is it about ATC that allows everyone to finally focus on ONE coin? Looks like you just added another. <<<< No, I shifted the paradigm.
chipug: what do you do kakobrekla?
mircea_popescu: there are very many sad czech ppl because no clothes at the moment
chipug: 1. dude she needs to trim the minge mullets she has going on down there and 2. why the fuck is she outside?!
KRS-: ThickAsThieves: so its the final altcoin for everyone to concentrate on it because you say it is?
chipug: im thinner than that atm :'(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.04999999 = 0.15 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: chipug i got asked that same question about an hour ago. i said "nothing."
KRS-: I don't see that it serves a purpose, unless I'm missing something.
chipug: must be interesting if two people ask in an hour though right kakobrekla?
diametric: so i was informed of altcoin today
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1220 @ 0.00012305 = 0.1501 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: KRS- you prolly missed my comments earlier. grep for straight man story
chipug: mircea_popescu: how old is this pic? looks 70s 80s
truffles: chipug is your balls smooth shaved?
chipug: truffles: i don't shave. can't stand the stubble. epilation ftw my balls are as smooth as the day you were born
KRS-: and cheers to ThickAsThieves
chipug: i dunno truffles lol i dont have any balls
chipug: she has nice bewbs that chick mircea_popescu swear the cars look super old though!!!
truffles: there's a harem somewhere needing of ur care
chipug: thanks ThickAsThieves you know, i typed it and was sitting thinking, that doesn't look right
kakobrekla: truffles gotta slaughter a pig as the right of passage for that
chipug: it's ok! we can sleep tonight now we know for certain!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 243 @ 0.000824 = 0.2002 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i wonder if i can make herbijudlestoids draw a nice gaussian curve or maybe even a hockey stick
chipug: wow /r/bitcoin is just turning into btctalk in a different coat
kakobrekla: but i guess the collateral damage is too great.
herbijudlestoids: to draw a normal distribution youd need to eliminate points from the dataseries, to kill off the tails
kakobrekla: but i can make up any arbitrary new center of the gauss
herbijudlestoids: and lets say whatever plan you come up with has an unintended consequence which leads to a vol spike, fat tails again :P
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: What about tits? First get him to draw 4 tits, and then make them bigger tits.
mircea_popescu: people spam naked ladies all the time, what's some bars.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 46 @ 0.00286013 = 0.1316 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pankkake that shit's epic, they manage to have an entire subreddit dedicated to bitcoinstocks including no actual bitcoin stocks.
mircea_popescu: i guess it must be because of all the beef they eat that includes no beef.
ozbot: Ukyo & ActM forms? : BitcoinStocks
herbijudlestoids: S&P500 looking ugly down from highs, but my systemic risk indicator still claiming its a healthy regime...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81052 @ 0.00093378 = 75.6847 BTC [+] {4}
ThickAsThieves: can someone load www.havelockinvestments.com currently?