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deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EAE9038BB39A9A622B1F2EB69574DA1D9901BAFC216C68CE9DE2BD27166EFDAC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1694...1807 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (wsip-70-168-8-58.ri.ri.cox.net. US CT)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EAE9038BB39A9A622B1F2EB69574DA1D9901BAFC216C68CE9DE2BD27166EFDAC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1592...4733 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (wsip-70-168-8-58.ri.ri.cox.net. US CT)
BingoBoingo: lol ri.ri
Reuel: Hello guys, a bit of a tl;dr here
Reuel: I wanted to contribute, and it irks me to admit, but I don't think there is anything meaningful I can contribute at this moment
Reuel: So, for now, you will have to do with mere words: you have my sincere admiration
Reuel: mircea_popescu, I would love to do the experiment you talked about -> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-29#1609441 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-29 17:48 mircea_popescu: go do hdd profiling on large symlink load, very useful.
danielpbarron: join eulora
Reuel: however life is getting in the way at the moment, and I don't have time to go through all the TRB code, which is probably a must to understand the context of the experiment
Reuel: I also hold some items in eulora which I should give back if you are on
Reuel: There are 1001 questions I would want to ask here, but I'm starting to feel like a net taker which is a wretched feeling
danielpbarron: you should do work in eulora!
Reuel: vThe reason I keep buzzing around this place is that I get these pangs of inspiration when I visit, which is weird but great
mircea_popescu: lel ok.
Reuel: So I'll be going full lurk mode, except for maybe some feminine replies on Trilema, but let me at least leave a little something
Reuel: This was inspired by this place: http://www.reuel.eu/writing/fiction/a-warm-welcome/ pasted version: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/FwIjU/?raw=true
Reuel: So I'll dedicate it to the republic
Reuel: ah are you on eulora?
danielpbarron: yes
danielpbarron: lol how is it possible two people have eulora accounts and don't know each other
Reuel: well I only did some minor tasks and didnt play again
danielpbarron: being a noob in eulora is a profitable venture, and it consists largely of being ready to do work when an elder needs work done
BingoBoingo: Reuel: Submit a piece to Qntra. Find idiots behaving dumbly and write it up.
Reuel: Yeah, but being profitable is not what I look for in a game per se
Framedragger: Reuel: just fyi, and it's only my humble opinion, but you don't need the context of the whole trb to do the symlink experiment. from what i took of it, it's a matter of testing how various filesystems (probably starting off with ext4) can manage with (very) large numbers of nodes and large numbers of links to nodes. how seek times increase with those numbers of links to links, etc. (as an fs overhead, on top of hdd/sdd).
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the thing is that by now i wouldn't trust the results anyway. dude clearly has nfi what he'd be doing.
Reuel: well I get the hard disk part, but not how it relates to bitcoin
Framedragger: aha, point taken - but reproducible documented methodology / code is still something.
danielpbarron: Reuel, i'm not inviting you to come have fun (although you will probably enjoy it) but you indicated you want to do work in the republic but don't know how. i have told you how
mircea_popescu: i guess so, but there seems no danger of such a wonder, so.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/minigame-smg-february-2017-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), February 2017 Statement
Reuel: ok let me put it more bluntly, I didn't enjoy dragging tables across green hills
Reuel: I guess that can probably be automated
Reuel: BingoBoingo, does it have to be current?
Reuel: as in news
BingoBoingo: Yes, must be news.
Reuel: right
Reuel: Well there is a lot of failing going on in Dutch IT, I must say
danielpbarron: everything can be automated. the only limit is your own ability to code it
Reuel: danielpbarron, and time of course... but who knows
danielpbarron: what is this, "i want to work but only if it doesn't take any time"
Reuel: I want to work, and I will certainly give time
Reuel: like I said, I dont like to be a net taker but I don't have much time atm
mircea_popescu: lel check it out danielpbarron he stole your blog design! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lobbes i mean
Reuel: whats the link?
mircea_popescu: http://lobbesblog.com/2017/lobbesbot-autobid-functionality/
asciilifeform: http://www.reuel.eu/writing/fiction/a-warm-welcome/ << reuel your box fell down..?
Reuel: BingoBoingo if something crosses my path I will write it up. Government IT/big IT fails of interest?
Reuel: Those are the gift that keeps on giving here
Reuel: Or the gift that keeps on taking, tax money that is
mircea_popescu: helps if it's bitcoin related.
Reuel: asciilifeform, box?
Reuel: ok
asciilifeform: Reuel: your www
Reuel: works for me
asciilifeform: Reuel: not long ago, dutch gov made tall claims of 'blockchain analysis for police work' voodoo. could investigate, translate, post to qntra re which charlatan is selling this 'service', and which bureaucrat on the take -- 'bought', and wtf it consists of
Reuel: hmm, there was something on the radio a few days ago about the Dutch central bank running blockchain tests
Reuel: internal
mircea_popescu: unrelated items.
Reuel: I'll check it out
Reuel: mircea_popescu, I have 2 items I want to return on eulora, are you on
danielpbarron: auction them :p
Reuel: nah theyre not mine
Reuel: he gave them for work
danielpbarron: so like.. as payment for?
Reuel: no they are part of the work hehe
danielpbarron: idk what those 2 items could possibly be
Reuel: well to be honest I thought I still had claim keys
Reuel: but
Reuel: I only seem to have 2 enumerations
Reuel: maybe my memory fails me
danielpbarron: not even worth returning
Reuel: ah ok
Reuel: thats worth nothng then?
danielpbarron: not 0, but not much
mircea_popescu: Reuel dun worry bout it
Reuel: ok...
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/03/the-californian-dilemma-approaching-peak-lol/ << Qntra - The Californian Dilemma Approaching Peak LOL
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-05#1622287 << he designed a nice, light-weight layout, what can I say :D ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-05 02:20 mircea_popescu: lel check it out danielpbarron he stole your blog design!
Framedragger: lobbes: any plan re. comments? curious if you have something without JS in mind. :) (this also answers (with quite a latency) mp's query http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-27#1608913 - there's no viable solution *without captcha _and_ without JS*.) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-27 23:48 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-27#1608443 << we don't ? when did this unhappen ? ☟︎
Framedragger: (re. "coming soon" on lobbesblog)
lobbes: I almost want to try something like a !Qcomment command via lobbesbot that'd store comment in a sqlite db. I'm thinking I may be able to 'default deny' input that way, somehow.
lobbes: but I have not really thought it out much
Framedragger: ah, that's one way to do it, via a saner interface with much less cruft...
lobbes: right? then, if I was sure that the data coming in is not shit, I could perhaps automate the generating of the blawg pages, adding in comments from said db at whatever intervals
lobbes: but no idea how to handle selection of blog post text
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-05#1622326 << just checked and realised that your trilema comments don't seem to have any JS, so it seems like i was wrong. (i now realise i had a (rather arbitrary) additional constraint with the original comment long ago, "make it work with a static site", but that's another matter/project altogether.) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-05 03:46 a111: Logged on 2017-01-27 23:48 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-27#1608443 << we don't ? when did this unhappen ?
Framedragger: lobbes: selection as in on the website, to provide unique href to selection?
Framedragger: (i'd like a static site + comments-without-captcha-or-JS setup, too, yeah)
lobbes: yeah, seems like it'd be a pain for the commenter to have to manually input that info to the bot
Framedragger: i guess they could include blog post number at least, but then not full proper quotation as you say. arbitrary selection within a DOM element only possible with some JS (trilema and archive.is at least have that JS piece tucked nicely in one place, not a total horror)
Framedragger: so actually, if you were willing to use that text selection JS snippet, i guess it'd be possible, sorta. commenter would paste autogenerated link and write on irc `http://trilema.com/2017/minigame-smg-february-2017-statement/#selection-1017.0-1017.97 << kewl`; but then how about overall comment length (have a way of indicating a multi-irc-line comment), etc...
lobbes: hm, yeah actually, I may end up going down that route
lobbes: I cannot think of any other way either without even a tiny bit of JS ☟︎
lobbes: either that or I'll just leave it without the ability to properly quote an arbitrary selection.
Framedragger: my maybe-convoluted personal plan was to have a static site generator but to have the comment box be rendered by a dynamic component (hence loaded separately upon user clicking to comment, or sth.) that component does the 'fraud prevention without JS' magic (like with trilema's comments - IP address is sent to html form to be returned as hidden value / whatnot). when comment is submitted, it gets added to some queue
ben_vulpes: you know we have 'fraud prevention without js' already
Framedragger: (your sqlite could do, or something even simpler). when comment is approved, static site generator gets triggered to re-render necessary pages including 'newest comments' box (if present.) etc.
ben_vulpes: !!key Framedragger
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/E2DF986D58A0D3876BA165FACC0510AAFD8AF4B7.asc
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: yes, but it requires a dynamic component on the backend, right?
Framedragger: ah, dat
Framedragger: sure, but in that case one may as well just implement a gpggram-to-blog-comments interface (not that it's a wholly bad idea or anything)
Framedragger: it sure would be nice to just be able to post simple comments on a blogpage, tho.
ben_vulpes: fwiw i thought long and hard about this and ultimately migrated to mp-wp.
Framedragger: :)
Framedragger: i should keep that in mind lest i become unnecessarily overexcited here.
ben_vulpes: my trinque-simulator sez "wtf with this sqlite; have a process listening for changes to the comments table and re-rendering the comments page upon submission"
Framedragger: a postgres trigger, of course
ben_vulpes: what else lol
ben_vulpes: anyways, doing it right is a small shitton of work, very nearly all of which and more is wrapped up in oldish wordpress.
ben_vulpes: the thing that finally sold me was unique footnote references across corpus.
Framedragger: ahh, that *is* nice to have, yeah!
ben_vulpes: aaand in other ultra amusing covers unearthed while partying at the cousins... http://archive.is/udKgb
ben_vulpes: i have nfi what is in it, but spied the cover on the way out
Framedragger: hah!
Framedragger: (it's 4am here, fuck. g'night!)
ben_vulpes: wakefulness ad libitum!
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-455831.txt
mircea_popescu: Framedragger my comments do not use js or captcha. what now.
Framedragger: yes, that's what i (finally) understood - i had assumed wrongly before!
Framedragger: what i _would_ like is to be able to have these kinds of comments in an otherwise static site (the comment box would be the dynamic component, so to speak - an autonomous backend module/script/whatever). not a part of a large ugly php blob.
Framedragger: but, it's still something, definitely!
mircea_popescu: lobbes not a terrible idea, only problem is it cuts to irc line. some comments are long. (otherwise i'd have moved myself)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-05#1622341 << you could just use mp-wp neh ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-05 04:04 lobbes: I cannot think of any other way either without even a tiny bit of JS
mircea_popescu: twas looking for a maintainer for a year now.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6D2448B45BEEAACC5EC64FC3D4EED5704A19BA2C574E3FBAAB9CB19269F8F390 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1752...0407 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' ()
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6D2448B45BEEAACC5EC64FC3D4EED5704A19BA2C574E3FBAAB9CB19269F8F390 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1505...7367 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' ()
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2017/03/qntra-s-qntr-february-2017-report/ << Upda-tit with deedbot link
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/9kbuD/?raw=true <<< Shitcoin roundup
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: tyvm
shinohai: !~ty
jhvh1: You are very welcome Daddy
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/03/shinohais-shitcoin-roundup-xtend-bitfinexs-token-addiction-transaction-acceleration-and-itbit-rounding-bug/ << Qntra - Shinohai's Shitcoin Roundup Xtend: Bitfinex's Token Addiction, Transaction "Acceleration", and itBit Rounding Bug
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Are you still playing with mp-wp?
shinohai: I still have a copy in archives, but haven't tinkered with it much. jhvh1 and trb keep me pretty busy.
BingoBoingo: Ah, so you've never played blog with it?
shinohai: Not yet .... I stood up a copy on lan and played with it some but you know me and blogging.
shinohai: If it wasn't for mircea_popescu and you constantly reminding me, I probably would never have started Qntra.
mircea_popescu waves
shinohai waves back, thanks mircea_popescu for his motivations over the years.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Have you considered starting a something to get some editorial experience? Perhaps you can be the publisher of "The Most Serene Republic's Journal Of Gardening And Whoreticulture"? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lel
shinohai: Well it's on the list, something whore related. Still trying to build the slut following with my twitter bot at moment.
mircea_popescu: whore tit culture ? nb, nb, prolly can get plastic surgery ads.
BingoBoingo: Veggies and Girls, what could go wrong?
shinohai: I had a no-shit "Vegan Dominatrix" follow me the other day. Whole new subculture I never heard about.
BingoBoingo: These things happen
trinque: beat ya with cucumbers or what?
shinohai shudders at the thought of a cucumber strapon
mircea_popescu: yeah, what exactly does she do, force subbies off meat ?
mircea_popescu: "but mistress, i'm gay" "SILENCE WHEN YOU SPEAK TO ME WORM!!1!"
BingoBoingo: http://oglaf.com/skinmount/
mircea_popescu: lel