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mircea_popescu: unless there was some flaw in it. in case you're wondering btw, this has happened in the past
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 7 @ 0.0175 = 0.1225 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3270 @ 0.00271259 = 8.8702 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: (once)
nubbins`: seems like they're sitting on a bunch of mining hardware with very little prospect of roi
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-disaster/
mircea_popescu: there.
ozbot: The anatomy of a disaster pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
nubbins`: 0.01 btc minimum? paste an address
nubbins`: congrats, you've done what the globe & mail couldn't
mircea_popescu: whassat ?
nubbins`: convince me to pay for content
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: 1 sec
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.783 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: $avg
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: 131.15
nubbins`: what's everyone's thoughts on using brain wallets for cold storage?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1550 @ 0.00283802 = 4.3989 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: if you've never made original contributions to a scientific field your mind is probably too banal for the brain wallet to be safer than the alternatives.
nubbins`: well, 'Password1' obv isn't going to cut it
nubbins`: but let's assume that one is intelligent enough to create a passphrase with a very high level of entropy
mircea_popescu: then we can assume the wallet will be safe.
nubbins`: y'know, i'm realizing that this isn't a terribly complicated topic to discuss
mircea_popescu: :p
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 485 @ 0.002829 = 1.3721 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 5 @ 0.18998 = 0.9499 BTC [+]
nubbins`: anyway, seems a lot easier than keeping backups of wallet.dat files in encrypted usb drives in bank vaults
nubbins`: while sacrificing nothing in the way of security, as long as it's done properly
thestringpuller: why not pull a breaking bad mr. nubbins`
thestringpuller: print out a paper wallet
thestringpuller: destroy all back ups
thestringpuller: bury paper wallet in desert
thestringpuller: put gps coordinates on lotto ticket
mircea_popescu: what if he needs it one day ?
nubbins`: i don't have reliable access to plastic barrels
thestringpuller: YISS
thestringpuller: :D
nubbins`: and, what if i need it one day
thestringpuller: go unbury your 10000 btc from the desert
mircea_popescu: he's gonna be out there digging ditches with nicky santoro.
nubbins`: better hope GPS accuracy is really tight on that particular day
mircea_popescu: "A lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes. But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all fuckin' night."
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: i was living in a rental once, and the landlord was showing some new prospective tenants around
nubbins`: this guy walks in
nubbins`: "any idiots or sketch-bags around here? 'cause i don't wanna be digging' holes"
nubbins`: although i was torn, i eventually chose the response "just us"
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: some other time, two chicks living together, landlord comes to do the same thing with a young goofy married couple.
mircea_popescu: one of the two says "oh, i rent here, but she comes with the place".
mircea_popescu: dood was drooling so hard his wife didn't want to rent anymore.
nubbins`: lel
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu what would be the ideal solution for a lemming storing btc "securely"
thestringpuller: or is security not a privelage the stupid deserve?
mircea_popescu: strangely you can spell security but not privilege!
nubbins`: paper wallet printed from offline machine
nubbins`: but hey
thestringpuller: XD
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.797 BTC [+]
nubbins`: lemmings don't have offline machines
mircea_popescu: but yeah, the best security is having a cheap laptop you don't use for anything else. generate a wallet and some gpg keys.
mircea_popescu: you can email your wallet to yourself in gpg encrypted form for backup, and just hang on tight to the laptop.
asciilifeform: know what would be spiffy? mechanical btc engine, a la Kurta.
asciilifeform: the ultimate 'offline'.
pankkake: if it's inconvenient, people are going to compromise
pankkake: so I am really skeptical of paper wallets
mircea_popescu: anyone can afford/use a cheapo old laptop
mircea_popescu: and nobody's stealing that.
nubbins`: y'know, a printer/scanner combo would be a great thing for a cold machine to have.
kakobrekla: how about those hw wallets for ze noobs
mircea_popescu: meh. i dont trust hardware these days.
thestringpuller: nobody's stealing it because it's old?
thestringpuller: or nobody's stealing it because GPG is hard to crack?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yeah. who do you think steals a laptop you got for 180 on ebay ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 6 @ 0.01799 = 0.1079 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: notbad.jpg
nubbins`: bonus if it's covered in stickers
thestringpuller: lolol hipster laptops
nubbins`: anything valuable, you wanna ruin with stickers
thestringpuller: no one steals those
mircea_popescu: stuff some pubes under the spacebar
mircea_popescu: that kinda thing
pankkake: burglars are dumb. I know from experience
thestringpuller: lol "this thing only has pubes and screenplays, I can't pawn this"
pankkake: they don't know what's valuable
asciilifeform: dumb enough to throw anything vaguely-laptop-like in a sack and look afterwards.
thestringpuller: with that logic you could make a poster with public private key that sits next to your bed
nubbins`: anyway, cold machine with printer/scanner: you wanna decrypt a message, just print it from your hot machine and do OCR on the cold machine
asciilifeform: i was on a jury where an idiot did exactly this
nubbins`: saves all that pesky manual transcription
thestringpuller: no burglar gonna steal a poster
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you can trivially put a qr reader
pankkake: anyway laptops, even without bitcoin, can easily be more valuable for their data
nubbins`: too true
mircea_popescu: cheaper, faster, just as good.
nubbins`: cheap webcam
nubbins`: tougher for gpg tho
mircea_popescu: pankkake you know, i've never been burglarized ?
pankkake: but why would you care? encrypt, put backups everywhere
thestringpuller: "My bank won't wire transfer to Slovenia (Bitstamp) says that it is a sanctioned country."
nubbins`: probably got it mixed up with syria
mircea_popescu: or somalia.
nubbins`: or siberia
thestringpuller: Silly Americans.
mircea_popescu: siberia is not a country.
nubbins`: tell that to the people advocating military strikes against it
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.813 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: zbigniew brzezinski has a map in his evil plotting room where it *is* a country
nubbins`: actually, don't; you'll only draw attention to yourself
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol good point.
mircea_popescu: btw nubbins` next time the marketing herpderps wish to know how come i get more traffic rthan the globe&mail i'ma quote you to them.
nubbins`: that, and there's less vitriol in the comments on trilema
nubbins`: take that as a compliment or a slight
thestringpuller: lol
mircea_popescu: actually my comment section is usually better than the articles.
mircea_popescu: present company excluded of course.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 220 @ 0.002399 = 0.5278 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: natch
nubbins`: and i agree
nubbins`: comment sections are usually abysmal intellectual wastelands
nubbins`: where the open-mouthed and the dull-eyed spill their half-baked opinions
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 1108 @ 0.0026 = 2.8808 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: re open-mouthed http://de-motivational-posters.com/images/alien-no-cocksucker.jpg
nubbins`: never realizing that they're unpaid actors in a reality show called "morons on the internet"
mircea_popescu: reality shows pay now ?!
nubbins`: well, i thought the winners got paid?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.78266666 = 10.696 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: set of steak knives ?
nubbins`: i guess some just do it for the 'fame'
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.78 BTC [-]
nubbins`: or the IRL equivalent of sticking a sharpie in your ass for a btc
mircea_popescu: "some". it used to be porn actresses were paid, but by now it's mostly hookers
mircea_popescu: ahem. i mean escorts.
mircea_popescu: doing it to be able to say they are published writers.
mircea_popescu: oslt
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.79 = 16.11 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: and speaking of cocksucker blues,
mircea_popescu: this is a train designed to BLOW SNOW : http://www.toddicus.com/skagway%20snow%20train%20mover.JPG
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 50 @ 0.00274837 = 0.1374 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: reminds me of http://www.granddistraction.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/tbm.jpg
Urushiol: is there any info on the discovery asset? like who runs it and what their experience / proof of competency is?
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure there's no proof of competency.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's that, uranium centrifuge ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 145 @ 0.00280335 = 0.4065 BTC [+] {7}
Ukyo: Urushiol: tyrion of ADDICTION runs it
asciilifeform: tunnel digger.
mircea_popescu: looked stationary.
asciilifeform: as in, everybody's metro
asciilifeform: there's caterpillars down there somewhere.
mircea_popescu: jesus christ, chrome has taken over the internet. 69k / 200k visits today come via chrome
mircea_popescu: when has this happened ?!
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3186052#msg3186052
ozbot: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc.
mircea_popescu: ff 44k, msi 17k, i guess microsoft is pretty much dead huh.
mircea_popescu: pankkake deprived reads pretty sane. now wtf is qwith the usagi acquisition ? he ever explain ?
pankkake: he did
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 566 @ 0.00044 = 0.249 BTC [+]
pankkake: it seems to be low risk for *him*, but I haven't read the details
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3186110#msg3186110
ozbot: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc.
mircea_popescu: o look at that.
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mcyrb/labcoin_crashes_as_news_reveals_lies/
mircea_popescu: somewhat lulzy.
ozbot: Labcoin crashes as news reveals lies : Bitcoin
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 233 @ 0.00282635 = 0.6585 BTC [+] {4}
kakobrekla: >>>So let me get this right. Someone mined 3 BTC and sent it to the Labcoin wallet to cause a price spike?
kakobrekla: Which I bought into.
kakobrekla: How dumb am I? What kind a person does this?
kakobrekla: LMAO
mircea_popescu: "Obviously, I'm just pointing out that MP is the Carrot Top of investment advice"
mircea_popescu: "Scott Thompson (born February 25, 1965), better known by his stage name Carrot Top, is an American comedian, known for his bright red hair, prop comedy, and self-deprecating humor."
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01743 = 0.1394 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: dude... nothing matches. red hair, me ? self-deprecating humor ?!
pankkake: I'd just reply with "If you have Labcoin shares (and don't have inside knowledge) you ARE a fucking idiot. There's no grey area on that."
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, you could pick a better matching comedian throwing darts
kakobrekla: you throw darts?
mircea_popescu: i sometimes throw darts.
mircea_popescu: this is why i like girls with meaty tails.
pankkake: nice
pankkake: so what comedian would you matched to?
mircea_popescu: hm.
pankkake: +be
mircea_popescu: well, i dunno. don rickles if i want to flatter myself ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, he says nigger all the time, right ?
pankkake: widely known as an insult comic
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.002789 = 1.3945 BTC [-]
pankkake: nice
mircea_popescu: actually he's widely known as "mr warmth"
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 118 @ 0.00279012 = 0.3292 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 2471 @ 0.00280365 = 6.9278 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 529 @ 0.002835 = 1.4997 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Since we're doing Casino : "Ace Rothstein: Listen, if you didn't know you're bein' scammed, you're too fuckin' dumb to keep this job. If you did know, you were in on it. Either way, you're out. Get out! Go on. Let's go."
thestringpuller: ;;google don rickles
gribble: Don Rickles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Rickles>; Don Rickles: <http://www.donrickles.com/>; Don Rickles - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0725543/>
thestringpuller: don rickles is so old
thestringpuller: "I'm Mr. Potato head"
thestringpuller: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1979376/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1 - seriously?
ozbot: Toy Story 4 - IMDb
mircea_popescu: yeah, but he's the only guy mocking obama out there.
thestringpuller: not jon steward?
thestringpuller: or stephen colbert?
mircea_popescu: not afaik. what they say ?
Duffer1: https://www.google.com/#q=jon%20stewart%20slams%20obama
ozbot: Google
mircea_popescu: “President Obama is a personal friend of mine. He was over to the house yesterday, but the mop broke.”
Duffer1: it's pretty funny usually worth watching
Duffer1: stewarts an equal opportunity hater, it's why i like him
mircea_popescu: always a good thing that.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.802 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2013/09/04/jon-stewart-latest-media-lib-blast-obama-syria-war-plans
thestringpuller: that has a pretty good treanscript
thestringpuller: OBAMA: We have been very clear to the Assad regime but also to other players on the ground that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized.
thestringpuller: STEWART: See the red line. You can.t use chemicals to kill your own people. You have to do it organically! America and the world want to make sure Assad only uses locally sourced, free-long-range land ordinance.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.808 = 3.616 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: Now, back in the early .80s, we knew that Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran and were likely to use them again. Not only did we not attack them, we supported Iraq in doing it. And of course, we still reserve the right to use bunker-busters, cluster bombs, and the Mark 77 which is not, not filled with napalm, technically.
thestringpuller: soooo i mean rickles isn't the only one talking out against obama
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.82 = 3.64 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: they seem quite on different levels.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.784 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: how so?
thestringpuller: steward is definitely for lemmings
thestringpuller: since he actively knows only stoners watch his show regularly
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 3498 @ 0.00091399 = 3.1971 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: "Put down the bong, the pope isn't coming" and such comments
mircea_popescu: saying "take this twenty and give it to your sister" is one thing. saying "well i hear a certain young lady has seen more things than you'd expect" it's quite another.
ThickAsThieves: stewart*
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/l39e52c.jpg - relevant
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.752 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0174 = 0.174 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that's a pretty bad tie.
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 32 @ 0.09714062 = 3.1085 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 426 @ 0.00264825 = 1.1282 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.00256124 = 12.8062 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [BMF] 75 @ 0.03385333 = 2.539 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.01736 = 0.5034 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 908 @ 0.0025479 = 2.3135 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: So mircea, would you be willing to at least independently acknowledge that this data shows Gox having less than 50% of btc volume on Aug 28? http://data.bitcoinity.org/#caaaaadgaa
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 71 @ 0.01735098 = 1.2319 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: i can't load it. how'd i go about that ?
mircea_popescu: put the page as a pastebin somewhere ?
ThickAsThieves: it's graphical
ThickAsThieves: use Chrome, like everybody else
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: lol well, i'm willing to acknowledge i don't use chrome.
mircea_popescu: so put it as a screenshot.
ThickAsThieves: loads in Opera for me
mircea_popescu: anyway, since i'm stuck guessing : your link probably onyl counts mtgoxusd.
mircea_popescu: there's also eur, jpy, and whatever the fuck else, like 4-5 things.
mircea_popescu: this was discuissed on the bet comments on like two different passes.
ThickAsThieves: its all currencies
mircea_popescu: is it ?
ThickAsThieves: yes
thestringpuller: yea it's all them
thestringpuller: currency: "all currencies"
mircea_popescu: but does that actually correctly include the same thing as the bitcoincharts includes.
mircea_popescu: i mean, "all currencies" might mean anything.
ThickAsThieves: http://imgur.com/wykMkTr
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
ThickAsThieves: thats the chart
ThickAsThieves: here is the currency list
ThickAsThieves: http://imgur.com/UZ7SKmQ
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: well now we know for a fact it's not good : the bitcoincharts site doesn't include this bit2c thing
mircea_popescu: also i don't see no rmbtb
ThickAsThieves: including more exchanges would only help my case
Ukyo: there are roughly 5 chinese rmb exchanges
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves how do you reason ?
ThickAsThieves: gox's pie would decrease more
mircea_popescu: if you're half of your household including more girlfriends makes you more or less a % ?
mircea_popescu: exactly ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 52 @ 0.01679 = 0.8731 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: yes the bet says gox will have less than 50%
mircea_popescu: which is why your substitute source is no good : it includes more things.
ThickAsThieves: yes no
ThickAsThieves: it resolved no
mircea_popescu: right...
ThickAsThieves: but this chart shows it had less than 50%
ThickAsThieves: on Aug 28
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 400 @ 0.00255 = 1.02 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: on some substitute source wherein a lot of other exchanges were counted.
ThickAsThieves: adding more competition of exchanges would make gox even lower
mircea_popescu: exactly.
ThickAsThieves: oh so you mean this page has more than bitocincharts has?
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: mtgoxUSD, bitstampUSD, btcnCNY, btceUSD, mtgoxEUR, mtgoxJPY, btcdeEUR, cbxUSD, mtgoxGBP, mtgoxCAD, bitcurexPLN, btceRUR, virtexCAD, mtgoxAUD, virwoxSLL
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 385 @ 0.002585 = 0.9952 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Ukyo it's true, but it's also damned hard to distinguish who's serious etc. gotta pick some sort of a fixed criterion.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.00254994 = 0.255 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: on that day, bitstamp alone had 14k
ThickAsThieves: gox had 15k
ThickAsThieves: ad campbx
ThickAsThieves: add*
ThickAsThieves: and gox is at <50%
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1837 @ 0.00242511 = 4.4549 BTC [-] {9}
mircea_popescu: i find it suspicious mtgox is one single thing, and i find it suspicious that thing is 2 digit precise.
mircea_popescu: anyway. all this would have been way more useful sometime around august the 8th
ThickAsThieves: it does 1 decimal
mircea_popescu: well what is 15k ?
ThickAsThieves: the issue is that a dynamic chart shouldnt be allowed
ThickAsThieves: as a data point
ThickAsThieves: since there is no way to prove yay/nay
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 295 @ 0.00241989 = 0.7139 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: sure it is. what happened to claiming it ?
ThickAsThieves: ?
mircea_popescu: you know, any of the interested partioes going "HEY! This bet is won!"
ThickAsThieves: because no one person was looking at it all times
mircea_popescu: tough.
ThickAsThieves: it's bitbet's job
ThickAsThieves: to resolve it
ThickAsThieves: not the bettors
ThickAsThieves: reality is reality, whether bettors point it out or not
mircea_popescu: well, reality so far is "no".
ThickAsThieves: show me
mircea_popescu: that's the story here : bitbet enacts reality. that's all i do to show you : point to the bitbet decision.
mircea_popescu: you disagree, you show me.
ThickAsThieves: so bitbet has no responsibility for it's resolutions to reflect reality?
ThickAsThieves: its*
mircea_popescu: bitbet resolutions ARE reality.
Kleeck__: LOL.
ThickAsThieves: how about the data used to make them?
Kleeck__: Classic mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: this is like going "o, the court should show me". dude... you got a case, show your case. you don't got no case... that's what it is.
Kleeck__: haha.
Kleeck__: Yes. Bitbet = habeas corpus
mircea_popescu: well, the data, sure. but it has to be THE data.
ThickAsThieves: would you mind sharing the data used to resolve it?
mircea_popescu: Kleeck__ no but it's not practical to have bitbet store details in any degree of detail permanently.
ThickAsThieves: yknow how lawyers share their data
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i would, cause it'd create untenable precedent.
ThickAsThieves: please disclose
ThickAsThieves: cant use court as justification
ThickAsThieves: without same allowances
mircea_popescu: it's economically unfeasible to require bitbet to permanently maintain records of everything. it's also kinda against the entire concept of bitcoin.
ThickAsThieves: it'll take you more time dealing with me than just showing me
Kleeck__: What a perfect position you've created for yourself MP. Bitbet = Reality, but it can't reveal how it comes to it's conclusions. :P
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter that it can't reveal tho.
ThickAsThieves: so you concur the court case justification is not applicable here?
mircea_popescu: nope.
ThickAsThieves: so it's some kind of court where everyone has to use facts but you?
Kleeck__: Sounds scammy.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves pretty much. bitbet is the authority. there's not some other authority to which bitbet submits facts
mircea_popescu: and emphatically that putative authority isn't any user.
ThickAsThieves: not true
ThickAsThieves: the authority is named in the bet
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, users are welcome to bring their cases before the supreme tribunal \which is bitbet.
ThickAsThieves: bitcoincharts
mircea_popescu: that's the trier of fact as it were.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1800 @ 0.0024014 = 4.3225 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.01676 = 0.6369 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i'm merely asking for bitbet to assert its good faith to the court by disclosing how it knew gox was never <50% before sept
mircea_popescu: bitbet is the court.
ThickAsThieves: is the court allowed to make decisions that conflict with reality
mircea_popescu: that;'s the point, and that's a giood half of the value and utility of bitbet to the community.
mircea_popescu: teaching people how to work in an actually structured system, rather than floating in this internet vague.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01679 = 0.1175 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyway, decisions that conflict with reality aren't at issue here. reality isn't what you feel it is, it's what you can prove it is.
mircea_popescu: bring that proof.
ThickAsThieves: i'm not sure the court gives me any avenue for doing so
mircea_popescu: well, there's the bitcoincharts site.
ThickAsThieves: the link stated in the bet is dynamic
mircea_popescu: looky, you can't argue "i had a proof but i ated it".
pankkake: is it on archive.org?
ThickAsThieves: any moment where it was <50% in Aug is not able to be displayed on that link
mircea_popescu: that's unfortunate, but not novel.
mircea_popescu: unless tactm changed how bitcoincharts operates since the bet was made.
ThickAsThieves: archive.org is not bitcoincharts.org, the court will argue
mircea_popescu: archive.org would work actually.
ThickAsThieves: it did not archive that day, and the charts dont load
ThickAsThieves: pronly due to them being dynamic
mircea_popescu: i'd have been surprised if this thing was amenable to some sort of resolution ;/
mircea_popescu: hey, do the graphs get constructed out of the request somehow ?
ThickAsThieves: nope
mircea_popescu: alternatively, you could maybe bug tactm (the owner) to check.
ThickAsThieves: info@bitcoincharts.com?
ThickAsThieves: or does he IRC?
mircea_popescu: well i don't see him on atm.
Kleeck__: Was this another bitbet?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.0167 = 0.5344 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [COGNITIVE] 11 @ 0.15501818 = 1.7052 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 826 @ 0.00240177 = 1.9839 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: jesus this is a two week + old resolution ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves srsly, what have you been waiting for ?!
thestringpuller: lolol
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 69 @ 0.00246933 = 0.1704 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: also, bitcoinity is doing daily averages, but it seems to me bitcoincharts is doing 30 day averages.
ThickAsThieves: well i had a number of bets, all of which i was sure i won and i was digging through emails and saw notifications of .00001 deposits on one of my betting addresses
ThickAsThieves: so i investigated
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01668499 = 0.8342 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: it's not exactly easy to keep tabs on bitbets
ThickAsThieves: should have an optional email notfi
ThickAsThieves: notification*
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: not really great for user privacy that.
ThickAsThieves: it's good to have options
ThickAsThieves: some emails can be pretty damn private
ThickAsThieves: you can gpg it if it makes you feel better ;)
mod6: o_0
mircea_popescu: currently bitbet retains no user info of any kind. there is value in this model.
ThickAsThieves: maybe an rss of resolutions?
mircea_popescu: i thought there was ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla does bitbet have a resolutions rss ?
mod6: there is an RSS feed (http://bitbet.us/rss/), and a twitter feed (@BitBets), but neither broadcast bet resolutions yet.
ThickAsThieves: it would also be cool if the headers on the homepage linked to full displays of that category
ThickAsThieves: like if I click the black Resolutions text
mircea_popescu: <Kleeck__> What a perfect position you've created for yourself MP. << this happens to be how business works, incidentally. you do a narrowly defined, specified thing. you never do "everything", ie, unbounded obligations.
ThickAsThieves: it would take me to all resolutions
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 14637 @ 0.000913 = 13.3636 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: or accurately resolving bets as a service
ThickAsThieves: much too specific
ThickAsThieves: (digging myself in a hole here if i'm wrong, i know...)
mircea_popescu: lol
mod6: yeah, you can just click the link in the tweet/rss stream and it takes you to the bet results.
mircea_popescu: i think some small RSS icons next to resolved and closed topics would prolly be useful.
ThickAsThieves: i mena literally clicking the word "RESOLVED"
mircea_popescu: to do what ?
ThickAsThieves: to see headlines for ALL resolved bets
ThickAsThieves: paginated if needed
mircea_popescu: you know you can just search for that.
ThickAsThieves: i know
mircea_popescu: select all / resolved in search box.
ThickAsThieves: but too many clicks bro bro
mircea_popescu: this i a point.
ThickAsThieves: makes me have to think n stuff
ThickAsThieves: cater to my impulses plz
ThickAsThieves: this is gambling after all
mircea_popescu: hey, the calculator did get put in :D
ThickAsThieves: yep, it's dope
mircea_popescu: and in a format i actually like.
ThickAsThieves: i emailed tactm, so we'll see if he actually responds
mircea_popescu: can yopu check bitcoinity for current mtgox % ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 500 @ 0.00232956 = 1.1648 BTC [-] {10}
ThickAsThieves: only using that alpha charts page i linked
mircea_popescu: hm ?
ThickAsThieves: http://data.bitcoinity.org/#caaaaadgaa
mircea_popescu: no, what i mean is, bitcoincharts currently shows mtgox as
mircea_popescu: { label: "mtgoxUSD", data: 37}, { label: "mtgoxEUR", data: 6}, { label: "mtgoxJPY", data: 3}, { label: "mtgoxGBP", data: 1}, { label: "mtgoxCAD", data: 1}, { label: "mtgoxAUD", data: 1},
ozbot: Bitcoinity.org
mircea_popescu: which adds up to 49%
mircea_popescu: now, the only way mtgox has 49% is if these are averages for the past 30 days.
mircea_popescu: otherwise there's no way.
ThickAsThieves: ah
mircea_popescu: and if indeed that's the case then we definitely have a problem with the daily averaged bitcoinity data.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.01663206 = 0.4823 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: tis alpha anyway
mircea_popescu: what's alpha ?
ThickAsThieves: data.bitcoinity.org
mircea_popescu: o o.
ThickAsThieves: i didnt expect you take take the source to change the bet
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0166388 = 0.416 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 46 @ 0.002496 = 0.1148 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: just to acknowledge that what it showed for that date was such
mircea_popescu: well that's why those links are in there (bet judged by X source). so these sorts of disputes can be dispatched.
ThickAsThieves: partly to make sure i wasnt crazy to spend any time on this
mircea_popescu: o
ThickAsThieves: i just wish the source chosen was not dymanic
ThickAsThieves: kinda shit
mircea_popescu: well yeah. not sure what to do about that.
ThickAsThieves: dont allow it?
mircea_popescu: i mean... on one hand forbidding bets of the sort seems strange, as the people aren't obliged to bet on it.
ThickAsThieves: for bets of this natue
ThickAsThieves: well the bet wouldve been fixed simply,
ThickAsThieves: name the closing date as the measure
ThickAsThieves: instead it said any time
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.01001818 = 0.1102 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: yet gave no way to see every time
mircea_popescu: well yes but entirely different tihngs these. european vs american options.
ThickAsThieves: provable vs not provable in this case
ThickAsThieves: you couldve been able to say Well when we looked it was not true sorry
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.01665727 = 0.3665 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: looky here : out of the three contentious bets so far, the two most problematic ones were the ones which actually were quite provable
ThickAsThieves: but instead your resolution implies you would have known if it were No
pankkake: the bet creator should provide a shell script able to determine the bet outcome!
mircea_popescu: (that bfl didn't deliver ands that bitfury did)
ThickAsThieves: but i suspect you wouldnt have known
ThickAsThieves: the fact is there is total ability for the bet to resolve incorrectly if no one is always watching the page and no historical data is served by the page
mircea_popescu: i somehow doubt a bet with 100 btc riding on it literally had nobody giving a shit.
mircea_popescu: i mean this is the internet. what else are people to do ?
ThickAsThieves: i didnt watch it
ThickAsThieves: :/
ThickAsThieves: obv i should have
ThickAsThieves: and i do represent the entire internet
ThickAsThieves: sooooo
mircea_popescu: lolk
mircea_popescu: anyway, can you see what % mtgox has on bitcoinity for today ?
ThickAsThieves: 24h?
mircea_popescu: the same thing as what you used for the 8th of aug or w/e it was
ThickAsThieves: sure, sec
mircea_popescu: i'm trying to compare things here so as to see how the two items rate.
ThickAsThieves: it has 18.2k for gox,
ThickAsThieves: bitstamp 13.0k37.52%
ThickAsThieves: mtgox 11.1k32.02%
ThickAsThieves: btce 3.66k10.58%
ThickAsThieves: localbitcoins 2.62k7.58%
ThickAsThieves: btcchina 1.53k4.42%
ThickAsThieves: campbx 7902.28%
ThickAsThieves: rmbtb 7392.14%
ThickAsThieves: cavirtex 6191.79%
ThickAsThieves: bitcurex 5581.61%
ThickAsThieves: justcoin 16.60.05%
ThickAsThieves: bit2c 0.5000.00%
ThickAsThieves: hrm
Kleeck__: Link to the bet?
mircea_popescu: o we gotta add all this shit ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [BTC-BOND] 27 @ 0.01034814 = 0.2794 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 20 @ 0.18999 = 3.7998 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 21 @ 0.01700714 = 0.3571 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: i'm not sure wtf
ThickAsThieves: i think the day chart does not include today
ThickAsThieves: but the 24h does
ThickAsThieves: conflicting data
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 18.2 / (18.2+13+11.1+3.66+2.62+790+619+558)
gribble: 0.00902965895673
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 18.2 / (18.2+13+11.1+3.66+2.62+.790+.619+.558)
gribble: 0.360060933389
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 2 @ 0.185 = 0.37 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B] [CIPHERMINE.B1] 43 @ 0.01055 = 0.4537 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: see, according to this graph mtgox for today is at 36^
mircea_popescu: according to bitcoincharts, mtgox for today is at 49%
ThickAsThieves: 37.52%
mircea_popescu: i tell you, they don't average over the same period.
ThickAsThieves: it's in my paste :)
ThickAsThieves: well btccharts shows 38%
ThickAsThieves: if they are rounding up
ThickAsThieves: then we're spot on
ThickAsThieves: oh
mircea_popescu: Kleeck__ http://bitbet.us/bet/460/mt-gox-to-have-50-trade-volume/
dexX7: hey tat, sorry to interrupt the talk - do you have any info on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=82760 like a real name or so? you gave him a trust rating
ThickAsThieves: that doesnt include the mini gox slices
ThickAsThieves: sec i'll check
ThickAsThieves: forum is slow for me atm
dexX7: thanks
ThickAsThieves: whats the name?
Kleeck__: That's one of the better bets I've seen. Not a block of text with poor wording.
mircea_popescu: Sep 19 04:43:50 <mircea_popescu>anyway, since i'm stuck guessing : your link probably onyl counts mtgoxusd.
mircea_popescu: you noob you!
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 320 @ 0.002472 = 0.791 BTC [-]
Kleeck__: But still lacks specificity. Why not LIST the exchanges that count towards it?
ThickAsThieves: dexx7
ThickAsThieves: if you read my rating
dexX7: ThickAsThieves: sam noi, fabrizio tatti
ThickAsThieves: it says I hosted escrow
ThickAsThieves: and the deal went fine
dexX7: yes
dexX7: but maybe, maybe he did mention it via pm
ThickAsThieves: thats the extent of it
ThickAsThieves: i'll look at pms from the day
mircea_popescu: Kleeck__ how would you know aforehand ?
ThickAsThieves: sec
Kleeck__: Be as specific as possible.
Kleeck__: Is the bet around exchange volumes? What exchanges?
mircea_popescu: that's exactly what it is. as speciffic as possible.
Kleeck__: No it isn't.
ThickAsThieves: wait a sec dexx7
Kleeck__: It's broad.
mircea_popescu: the bet was around the exchanges as defined by bitcoincharts.
ThickAsThieves: why am i hunting this down anyway
ThickAsThieves: plz dont tell me,
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's "delaria".
ThickAsThieves: to determine if labcoin are scams
Kleeck__: Oh. My fault.
Kleeck__: I didn't see the bitcoincharts bit.
dexX7: i'm not really sure what i'm looking for, but "labcoin" uses his username "delaria" as skype handle and "delaria" posted some avalon pictures/pool stats labeled with "labcoinx_avalon" etc.
mircea_popescu: Kleeck__ too block of text-y ? :D
ThickAsThieves: so that is why
Kleeck__: :) No. This was a good bet.
ThickAsThieves: let me save you the time
dexX7: haha k
ThickAsThieves: labcoin is a fucking scam from day 1
ThickAsThieves: there
ThickAsThieves: you can rest now
Kleeck__: I don't use Bitbet because most of the best that appeal to me have shitty wording and lack specificity.
ThickAsThieves: we all said so from day 1
mircea_popescu: you're supposed to say "as mp pointed out, labcoin is a scam from day one."
mircea_popescu: like that reddit guy
mircea_popescu: so why not make better ones ? you get paid even.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 46 @ 0.002495 = 0.1148 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.01682 = 0.2859 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: well i want credit on this one too
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: link me!
dexX7: yeah well, you said so. now proof it.
ThickAsThieves: i am the law!
mircea_popescu: lol
Kleeck__: LOL
Kleeck__: Classic defense.
dexX7: i'm not calling you out, just saying :)
Kleeck__: Yeah.
mircea_popescu: ten years from now i'll be long gone on some island somewhere, and people will try to figure out why are all bitcoiners such assholes
mircea_popescu: little will they know...
dexX7: if there is hard proof, it would be good to know
Kleeck__: yeah. I'd love to see proof, honestly.
dexX7: but anyway, i didn't want to turn this into a lab discussion ;)
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 92 @ 0.00249525 = 0.2296 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: didnt you?
mircea_popescu: dude. we would love to see proof that corzine did it.
mircea_popescu: we all KNOW he did it.
mircea_popescu: and yet...
ThickAsThieves: btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmNiTwHOsM
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.01682 = 0.2859 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: for that matter, enron is roughly in the same position and etc. proof is hard.
Kleeck__: Nah.
Kleeck__: This isn't Enron.
Kleeck__: Or Corzine.
Kleeck__: It's a goddamm Bitcoin startup.
Kleeck__: And a shitty one at that.
mircea_popescu: yes. proof even harder.
Kleeck__: I'll give that up right away.
mircea_popescu: hi Edward_
Edward_: Hi.
mircea_popescu: everyone, this is the guy that bothered to look into that piece of malware on the forum. Edward_ this is everyone.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.76 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: urlpls
Edward_: Funny in channel not to hear assbot chatter. Hey everyone. I look at machine code.
Kleeck__: Night all.
Edward_: Half OCD, half job.
mircea_popescu: assbot found a girl and went away.
ThickAsThieves: btw you wanted a link to be calling labcoin a scam day 1
ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg2815024#msg2815024
ozbot: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
dexX7: lol
dexX7: "reserved"
mircea_popescu: "i told you so" ?!
dexX7: "last edit" :P
ThickAsThieves: hehe
pankkake: :D
kakobrekla: this could be edited afterhand
ThickAsThieves: :)
ThickAsThieves: it was
kakobrekla: url must start with log dot something
mircea_popescu: lol last edited sept 12
pankkake: oh I did a reserved too
mircea_popescu: omg SCAM
ThickAsThieves: i'd have to dig up IRC logs
Edward_: They were taking beating last time I here.
mircea_popescu: where you from Edward_ ?
ThickAsThieves: just wanted to be a dick to people that go back and read it
Edward_: Eritrea. Now live in Dubai.
mircea_popescu: 0.0
mircea_popescu: that's practically right next to kakobrekla's native somalia ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.002499 = 0.7497 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: lmao and fu
mod6: ha
mircea_popescu: lol
Edward_: close, yes. Had family there. Now dont
mircea_popescu: whoa that sounded like that hemingway short story.
mircea_popescu: "For sale: baby shoes, never worn"
Edward_: Not read Hemingway.
mod6: <3 Hemingway
mircea_popescu: hemingway is good.
Edward_: six word. whole story. yes.
Edward_: Is kakabrekla from Somalia?
mod6: its a meme
mircea_popescu: well, he really is from slovenia. but he tells everyone he's from somalia
mircea_popescu: like those people who pretend to be jewish.
Edward_: Ah. Explains much.
mircea_popescu: lmao
kakobrekla: its same shit really...
kakobrekla: > 02:27.45 ( thestringpuller ) "My bank won't wire transfer to Slovenia (Bitstamp) says that it is a sanctioned country."
kakobrekla: no 419 for you kako
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286610.msg3146734#msg3146734
mircea_popescu: url you asked for.
Edward_: Mine had no problem with. But normal for Dubai, bankers no qualms about anywhere really.
mircea_popescu: Edward_ so what do you normaly speak ? arabic ?
kakobrekla: thanks
Edward_: No. Singlish, lah?
mircea_popescu: ah
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.751 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.785 = 7.14 BTC [+] {2}
Edward_: Is Chinese syntax on about half English half Korean vocabulary. But is ugly language.
mircea_popescu: she cow pig had kittens ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 622 @ 0.0024998 = 1.5549 BTC [+] {4}
Edward_: Serious Labcoin price? Thought fall further.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [PAJKA.BOND] 33 @ 0.018 = 0.594 BTC [+]
Edward_: use pronouns damnit. Is assbot price of labcoin real? I thought it would fall further. Standard English?
mircea_popescu: who's to know at this point.
mircea_popescu: it is what btctc reports.
Edward_: Why do anyone think "start an anarchy" is a good idea?
mircea_popescu: what does that mean ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 251 @ 0.0004 = 0.1004 BTC [-] {2}
Edward_: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280771.0 makes a lot of nonsense to me.
ozbot: How to actually start an anarchy?
mircea_popescu: you know the forum is mostly for comedy relief right /
Edward_: Hard to tell sarcasm from stupidity apart.
mircea_popescu: this is what makes it so fascinating.
pankkake: "
pankkake: You don't start an anarchy. They naturally arise after revolution."
mircea_popescu: " Does things high level compiler never ever do like use as data (including instructions!) from code segment, to make value pun elsewhere, use as number or insert in string. Horrible to trace, damned clever." << this by the way was very funny, because of the word pun is afaik never used before in that context.
mircea_popescu: Edward_ you know the story of mel ?
Edward_: I would say after infrastructure destroyed. Is worst part of war, anarchy follows.
Edward_: From Hacker Dictionary?
mircea_popescu: yes.
Edward_: Yes. What word if not 'pun'?
mircea_popescu: anyway. what you think of anarchy, ie, proper anarchy, and what pasty ass white boys imagine anarchy is are very VERY different things.
mircea_popescu: when you hear white rich people talk about anarchy all they mean is, our governments have become very large, very expensive, very ineffectual and very stupid. people want to get rid of them.
mircea_popescu: no, no, pun is great. it just never occured to anyone before.
Edward_: America Government is not ineffectual. It is so effectual it is scary.
mircea_popescu: how do you judge ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 57 @ 0.01733 = 0.9878 BTC [+]
pankkake: anarchy ≠ anomy
pankkake: revolutions, wars have actually usually kept the existing bureaucracies and made them more powerful
Edward_: NSA headlines lately. No other government could do what they did. Listening to whole world.
mircea_popescu: that is irrelevant for most people. ineffectual in this context means they don't do what people want them to do, not that they don't do what they themselves set out to do.
pankkake: what's the NSA's budget?
Edward_: $billions. I don't know.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0173 = 0.2595 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i bet you you could do what they do on half the money :D
Edward_: Is just example. American government does many things no other could do. Invade Syria? You know how tough Syria is? Nobody else would even think.
mircea_popescu: they're just talking about it.
mircea_popescu: tjhey know they'll get owned.
Edward_: I have no doubt they could flatten it. But after? No way to disengage,
mircea_popescu: well exactly.
mircea_popescu: what win is that ? another afghanistan.
mircea_popescu: spend 10 trillion to do 10 billion worth of damage. whoopdedoo.
mircea_popescu: russians send 10 more bn worth of gear, start over in 10 years.
Edward_: America, always being police to the world. But sometimes corrupt police like in India.
Edward_: Less about chasing crooks than shaking them down for share of profits.
thestringpuller: "thanks the cops who put greed before the badge"
Duffer1: or knocking them down and placing their own crooks
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.1244 = 0.4976 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.017 = 0.85 BTC [-]
Edward_: But like Batman thing. Spend $Millions on equipment, chase crooks who mug $50 from old lady on corner.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 16 @ 0.1244 = 1.9904 BTC [+] {2}
Edward_: Then ignore other crooks do much worse when no oil involved.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 280 @ 0.002591 = 0.7255 BTC [+] {2}
Edward_: Trading is much calmer today?
mircea_popescu: thus ineffectual :)
Edward_: Hardly. Nobody else can do so much damage so fast.
mircea_popescu: well we'll just have to agree to disagree :)
mircea_popescu: also, check pms.
Edward_: private message on bitcointalk board?
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 500 @ 0.00689359 = 3.4468 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.7855 = 3.571 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: no, here.
Edward_: Sorry, new to IRC. How?
mircea_popescu: should be a tab up on the screen
kakobrekla: Edward_ the trades are merged in 1 min blocks and nothing under 0.01 comes through, hence less spam
kakobrekla: 0.1 that is
Edward_: I see.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.01731333 = 0.6233 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.0025115 = 0.2512 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.79116666 = 10.747 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 344 @ 0.00119752 = 0.4119 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 40 @ 0.002565 = 0.1026 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 250 @ 0.002502 = 0.6255 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: TheSeven, save us from the TheScam
Duffer1: dexxy posted a respone from theseven today in that thread
Duffer1: er dexx7
ThickAsThieves: did it amount to "I wont say it's NOT a scam..."?
Duffer1: he said he's sure it's not a scam from what he's seen, but anything's possible, he also confirmed consulting and seeing his ideas being implemented in the 65nm design
Duffer1: i'll try to find it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM1] 1 @ 1.6002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.798 = 5.394 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: bitcointalk so slow for me atm
matuszed: same
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.809 BTC [+]
Duffer1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3181860#msg3181860
ozbot: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
ThickAsThieves: that thread is posted in way too much
matuszed: Its amazing how much can be written and so little said
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
matuszed: haha
MilkyLep: Big bubble ? :p
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 42 @ 0.002505 = 0.1052 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: could probly end world hunger with the wasted effort in that forum
mircea_popescu: if anyone ever ends world hunger i'll be a sad panda.
MilkyLep: internet*
ThickAsThieves: but a well-fed panda at least
mircea_popescu: yeah, right, because im totally starving right now.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if some schmuck ends world hunger i will have a starving slave in my basement at all time. the girls can rotate fasting weekly or w/e.
ThickAsThieves: whoever heard of a skinny Santa?!
ThickAsThieves: just have Bill Gates shot that should cover your lifetime of risk
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0168 = 0.84 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: http://72.10.171.98/resources/ecommerce/images/products/966/710/img710966/product-enlarged.jpg
mircea_popescu: she's reasonably skinny.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.01664 = 0.3661 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 2152 @ 0.00091356 = 1.966 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1379 @ 0.00250484 = 3.4542 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2xgOW7LUElI/UirijXfIYuI/AAAAAAAAi8A/tCGK89EOjR8/%23vuc+-+freenode+Web+IRC.png
mircea_popescu: posting this here to have for later in case noobs.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.01662 = 0.7811 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: but where do o see pm's?
ThickAsThieves: i
mircea_popescu: same as chans
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.809 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.016518 = 0.413 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LTC-ATF.B2] 105 @ 0.01098285 = 1.1532 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 1.80971428 = 38.004 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.01652 = 0.2974 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 3 @ 0.056 = 0.168 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 9 @ 0.05788888 = 0.521 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 479 @ 0.00259289 = 1.242 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 161 @ 0.002599 = 0.4184 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 19899 @ 0.00091723 = 18.252 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.823 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 2 @ 0.0629 = 0.1258 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1800 @ 0.00271734 = 4.8912 BTC [+] {6}
BingoBoingo: Anyone heard of Hashfast.com? Somone is pushing them hard on Coinchat, but when I ask them about delivery bets per http://trilema.com/2013/the-positive-market-effects-of-the-delivery-bet/ they get evasive
nubbins`: has any company taken a delivery bet yet?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Haven't Bitfury and BFL done it?
nubbins`: no idea
pankkake: a bitfury guy bet IIRC
pankkake: bfl promised to give to charity but they gave to a dubious one
BingoBoingo: I mean BFL lost, Bitfury lost then won...
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.83 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 6244 @ 0.00091774 = 5.7304 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: BFL's idea of charity is like the USG's idea of peace...
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 850 @ 0.0027754 = 2.3591 BTC [+] {3}
Freebitcoinslist: BingoBoingo: You here
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 392 @ 0.002775 = 1.0878 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Yes Freebitcoinslist ask for questions people can use to ascertain the likelihood of Hashfast.com being a scam
Freebitcoinslist: Well they are not a scam
Freebitcoinslist: Does anyone knwo Connman the Creator of CGminer
BingoBoingo: Freebitcoinslist: Then why don't ehy have a deliverybet?
BingoBoingo: Freebitcoinslist: Also who the ever living fuck is Connman? Is he related to Usagi?
Freebitcoinslist: Conman is Conkovalis the creator of the Mining program called CGminer
Freebitcoinslist: and no no relation to Usagi
pankkake: Con Kolivas
BingoBoingo: Freebitcoinslist: Pretty sure, but not entirely sure that's not how that would be spelled, and of course no relation to Usagi. Usagi is merely incompetent. If Hashfast.com neglects a delivery bet that would be actively malicious
Freebitcoinslist: yea that is it
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 2614 @ 0.00246311 = 6.4386 BTC [-] {14}
xanto: Sup guys
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.01655 = 0.2648 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Not much fontas/xanto Just pushing Freebitcoinslist and Hashfast.com for a motherfucking delivery bet
pankkake: why not create the bet first, and ask to bet?
xanto: Delivery bet? What's going on?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3550 @ 0.00277596 = 9.8547 BTC [+] {6}
Freebitcoinslist: One sec
xanto: One sec passed.
Freebitcoinslist: I wrote the questions on my new laptop and my older pc cant read the file cuz of the version of office
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 30656 @ 0.00284194 = 87.1225 BTC [+] {26}
xanto: Why wouldn't you be able to do it on another version?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Because someone showed up in CoinChat, haven for the bit poor and aksed us for questions to present for a ASIC group, one Hashfast.com
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 18880 @ 0.00293937 = 55.4953 BTC [+] {20}
BingoBoingo: I figured people here would be credible enough to explain the value to this group of making a delivery bet.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 22500 @ 0.00299804 = 67.4559 BTC [+] {17}
xanto: TBH, hashfast.com could be easily set up in a few minutes. Just create some logos and 3D-model and you'll be fine.
benkay: they have an ssl certificate
benkay: ooooo
benkay: golden nonce oh my lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 146 @ 0.00299977 = 0.438 BTC [+] {2}
xanto: benkay, so what? You pay $100 a month for an easy SSL certificate, no proofs what-so-ever on that it's real.
benkay: you must be missing the sarcasm.
BingoBoingo: benkay: I have about a hundred SSL certificates. Having a certificate for Google doesn't make you Google though. It is much the same as how killing Jesse James doesn't make you Jesse James.
benkay: wow are you both a new breed of idiot?
xanto: ^^
xanto: benkay, I didn't understand your sarcasm, sorry.
benkay: learn to touch type
benkay: that way you can write while i ream you
benkay: and not hit enter.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.0025 = 0.25 BTC [-]
Freebitcoinslist: Damn Office 365
benkay: why the hellfuck would a bitcoin-accepting company implement ssl anyways?
benkay: and why are you jerkoffs using shitsicles like office?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Because they don't know GPG?
BingoBoingo: Freebitcoinslist: Do you really need moar than Gedit for anything?
Diablo-D3: VIM WARGH
benkay: Diablo-D3, demonstrating derps again
benkay: it's emacs, bruddah.
Diablo-D3: VIM FOREVAR!
pankkake: unless you have less than 20 fingers
Diablo-D3: I dont like using my toes on my new keyboard
BingoBoingo: benkay: If I don't want an editor that can play MacroHard wy would I want one that plays pong?
benkay: do the parens hurt your brian too?
benkay: brain*
benkay: da ha
benkay: naw erlang's great if you can't wrap your head around lisp
benkay: concurrency for hot-swappable programmers
benkay: distributed derping
BingoBoingo: Come on benkay All languages are equally teh suck unless you are targetting a specific platform that favors one over the other
benkay: totes
benkay: dev cycles ain't a thing
benkay: capital barriers either
benkay: lisp is the programming equivalent of capital barriers
benkay: sure you can implement this in algol v 24
Freebitcoinslist: 1.For those readers or listeners who are new to BTC community and mining experience, give us a little glimpse into the history of HashFast.com.
benkay: but it's not going to run unless you put down 5 million next to it
Freebitcoinslist: 2.When starting the company, what was the deciding factor that led you to starting HashFast.com?
benkay: or show up with some demonstrated competence
Freebitcoinslist: 3.What would you say is the one thing that sets HashFast apart from all other ASIC mining hardware providers?
Freebitcoinslist: 4.Considering what’s happened to your competitors in the ASIC field with production and shipping delays, has HashFast learned from these mistakes and implemented contingency plans to overcome these obstacles and ease the customer’s minds?
xanto: Freebitcoinlist, it's a scam.
benkay: dahaha contingency plans
benkay: derptingency plans
Freebitcoinslist: 5.Relating to my previous question, would HashFast be willing to put up a start of shipping timeframe guarantee on ???.??? as this would ease customers’ minds knowing that the company is willing to put their money where their mouth is….
xanto: just stop.
Freebitcoinslist: 6.Does HashFast have any plans in the near future to start providing scrypt based ASIC mining hardware?
benkay: >.<
benkay: Freebitcoinslist: on a scale of one to amazing, how do you feel about hashfast?
Freebitcoinslist: 7. Does HashFast have any plans to offer setup or/startup consultations to those who are new to the mining experience and may need a little assistance in choosing optimum equipment for their needs and budgetary requirements?
benkay: mining experience: buy thing, watch it depreciate faster than an american car
benkay: needslol
benkay: you don't need an asic mining thing
benkay: you need a cash flow
BingoBoingo: Who thinks all of this scamsens form hashfast.com should take a backseat to them putting a delivery bet down on http://bitbet.us that would be of sufficient size for all buyers to hedge against?
benkay: hey Freebitcoinslist: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://hashfast.org
Freebitcoinslist: UMMM that is covered BingoBoingo in Question 4
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.01652 = 0.2313 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Freebitcoinslist: Make that implicit in your interview.
Freebitcoinslist: 8.With the rapidly increasing BTC difficulty, where does HashFast see itself in 5 years time?
benkay: holy shit
benkay: can i short you Freebitcoinslist
Freebitcoinslist: 9.In your personal opinion, what is the biggest misconception relating to BTC mining?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.01652 = 0.2313 BTC [-]
Freebitcoinslist: short me?
xanto: Free, all I see is SCAM.
benkay: yes
benkay: you personally
BingoBoingo: Freebitcoinslist: Yes, short you, like Pirate was shortable.
benkay: i want to short all of your decisions
Freebitcoinslist: what do you mean by Short me
benkay: THIS IS ASSETS
benkay: what are you doing in here?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.01652 = 0.1982 BTC [-]
Freebitcoinslist: I was told to come here by bingo
Freebitcoinslist: so bye then
xanto: LOL
benkay: bitcointalk.org
benkay: better targets
benkay: we ride their pumps
pankkake: that guy could barely write
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.01652 = 0.1817 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Still If they make a delivery bet, it would all be worth it.
pankkake: oh I agree
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00091834 = 6.061 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1700 @ 0.002696 = 4.5832 BTC [+] {6}
benkay: BingoBoingo: antibodies engaged.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 9 @ 0.01789999 = 0.1611 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 7338 @ 0.00294433 = 21.6055 BTC [+] {8}
xanto: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1849 @ 0.00271679 = 5.0233 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.0165 = 0.5775 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: benkay: You have seem so averse to getting this new ASIC scammer/vendor to committ to a bet where they put skinb on the line as per http://trilema.com/2013/the-positive-market-effects-of-the-delivery-bet/ (benkay are you the only person here without a trilema subscription?)
benkay: begone, as they say, foul dwimmerlake.
benkay: dahaha
benkay: man you make me miss tiberious
benkay: tiberius*
xanto: uh guys
xanto: hashfast.org isn't scam
xanto: they have SSL
benkay: and a unit!
xanto: from godaddy which costs $4 a year
xanto: so legit
benkay: i'm not averse to taking their money
BingoBoingo: xanto: Sarcasm doesn't sell well here...
benkay: but a) i don't bet on trivial shit
benkay: and b) i mostly want the idiots gone from my situation
xanto: BingoBoingo, what is sarcasm?
BingoBoingo: But trivial shit is the best +EV to bet on...
benkay: eh
benkay: requires cognitive overhead
benkay: i generally put my cycles to direct profit-making purposes.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Congitive, like the worst mining... thing...
benkay: that would be a definition
benkay: not the most contextually informed, but a definition nevertheless.
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 7 @ 0.0963 = 0.6741 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: benkay: If you keep pulling you dick hoping for the most contextually perfect definition to pop out sure, you'll feel good because jizz. Seriously embrace the tiny yet necessary bit of pragmatism.
benkay: i was hoping you'd roll it like a joke
benkay: alas
xanto: Someone said dick :D
benkay: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6gvbnhvHa1rqqb9fo1_500.jpg
benkay: still works!
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 82 @ 0.01631316 = 1.3377 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.845 BTC [+]
benkay: nah man i don't seek perfection, but i do expect people to infer the correct definition from context
benkay: failure to do so is an indicator of stuff
benkay: failure to sell jokes ams more indicate
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.845 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 250 @ 0.00288515 = 0.7213 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 325 @ 0.00043 = 0.1398 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 87 @ 0.00274696 = 0.239 BTC [-] {9}
xanto: it's pretty quiet now...
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00091903 = 7.6279 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.1114 = 1.0026 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 14 @ 0.18999 = 2.6599 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 1 @ 0.18999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 192 @ 0.00244 = 0.4685 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 4100 @ 0.00043 = 1.763 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.01689 = 0.2702 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 9481 @ 0.00292401 = 27.7225 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0169 = 0.169 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: So I'm thinking about proposing some BitBets, What do peple think are realistic MVP candidates?
pankkake: MVP?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 56 @ 0.01689714 = 0.9462 BTC [-] {2}
Diablo-D3: minimum viable product?
BingoBoingo: pankkake Diablo-D3 Pretty much.
benkay: minimum viable puddi
benkay: GIGA PUDDI (HD - Highly DELICIOUS!) - YouTube
benkay: derp
benkay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-N_mW3WakU
ozbot: GIGA PUDDI (HD - Highly DELICIOUS) - YouTube
dub: im so black its scary
benkay: you and tsp should have a convention
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00092039 = 12.4253 BTC [+] {2}
dub: only got out of bed today to drive through KFC in my dressing gown
BingoBoingo: dub: I prefer Popeyes
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.01682 = 0.3532 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0168142 = 0.8407 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: So... Anyone else here play Eve Online?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.01682 = 0.2691 BTC [+]
Duffer1: play?
Duffer1: Eve is a game you watch, where's the play?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.01681 = 0.353 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 45 @ 0.01789999 = 0.8055 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: The play is in fucking up asteroids for their minerals
Duffer1: :P
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.2698 = 0.5396 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 40 @ 0.002755 = 0.1102 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 59 @ 0.0168 = 0.9912 BTC [-]
benkay: i have and may again
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01700101 = 0.17 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ET.DIFF.LONG] 158 @ 0.012 = 1.896 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3084 @ 0.00272978 = 8.4186 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 6528 @ 0.00267661 = 17.4729 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 352 @ 0.00262009 = 0.9223 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 712 @ 0.00263202 = 1.874 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01632 = 0.1142 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.01631 = 0.473 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.016307 = 0.1631 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.01622 = 0.7786 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 200 @ 0.002737 = 0.5474 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [DEALCO] 85 @ 0.00879411 = 0.7475 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 19 @ 0.017 = 0.323 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 5661 @ 0.00261893 = 14.8258 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.8454 = 9.227 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.01696 = 0.424 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1232 @ 0.00275328 = 3.392 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.8498 = 9.249 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.016972 = 0.3394 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.8696 = 9.348 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 37734 @ 0.0004339 = 16.3728 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 30 @ 0.01683001 = 0.5049 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 133 @ 0.002641 = 0.3513 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00044449 = 4.4449 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 267 @ 0.00040002 = 0.1068 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 267 @ 0.00040002 = 0.1068 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [SDSTM] 763 @ 0.0024562 = 1.8741 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01637285 = 0.1146 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01705 = 0.1364 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.873 = 13.111 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.801 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 15000 @ 0.00267306 = 40.0959 BTC [+] {29}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 70 @ 0.0165 = 1.155 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 150 @ 0.002645 = 0.3968 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1393 @ 0.0027264 = 3.7979 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.01652916 = 0.3967 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0009204 = 3.6816 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.87466666 = 11.248 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 182 @ 0.01720076 = 3.1305 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.01775 = 0.4615 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 122 @ 0.0177799 = 2.1691 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 2093 @ 0.00273772 = 5.73 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.944 = 3.888 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.851 = 3.702 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.85066666 = 5.552 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 381 @ 0.0025819 = 0.9837 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 161 @ 0.002556 = 0.4115 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.017225 = 0.1034 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 2086 @ 0.00279668 = 5.8339 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 16050 @ 0.00282866 = 45.4 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 900 @ 0.00283545 = 2.5519 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 81 @ 0.002836 = 0.2297 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 2198 @ 0.00092065 = 2.0236 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.00288 = 0.864 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 170 @ 0.00288 = 0.4896 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1816 @ 0.00288575 = 5.2405 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1219 @ 0.00289808 = 3.5328 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3655 @ 0.00292156 = 10.6783 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1001 @ 0.00294997 = 2.9529 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 310 @ 0.002925 = 0.9068 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.01777 = 0.7108 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 42 @ 0.18171428 = 7.632 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 300 @ 0.002354 = 0.7062 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 690 @ 0.00294886 = 2.0347 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 100 @ 0.00704229 = 0.7042 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.01785224 = 3.5704 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.002947 = 2.947 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 2202 @ 0.002949 = 6.4937 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 2962 @ 0.00295 = 8.7379 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 38 @ 0.002959 = 0.1124 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 4582 @ 0.00296382 = 13.5802 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 4957 @ 0.00299076 = 14.8252 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 100 @ 0.09635339 = 9.6353 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.002992 = 1.496 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: goddamnit
Diablo-D3: why the fuck do people say dumb shit on the AM thread
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3920 @ 0.00299289 = 11.7321 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1110 @ 0.002996 = 3.3256 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3200 @ 0.00299659 = 9.5891 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.929 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 60 @ 0.002998 = 0.1799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 250 @ 0.002998 = 0.7495 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: i dont even comment in there anymore
ThickAsThieves: just asking for frustration
jurov: http://www.zdnet.com/pay-heed-to-the-internets-third-wave-cows-of-disruption-7000020878/
ozbot: Pay heed to the internet's Third Wave Cows of Disruption | ZDNet
jurov: i totally <3 this. if you argue with someone that bitcoin is useless in meatspace
jurov: send them to read this
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 269 @ 0.00116689 = 0.3139 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 393 @ 0.00116002 = 0.4559 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 172 @ 0.00114487 = 0.1969 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 2231 @ 0.0004482 = 0.9999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 600 @ 0.002804 = 1.6824 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 400 @ 0.002804 = 1.1216 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1550 @ 0.00299049 = 4.6353 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3188684#msg3188684
ozbot: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc.
pankkake: Diablo-D3: yeah there's this one guy who just quotes huge posts saying "I have to agree here.", very annoying :)
Diablo-D3: pankkake: Im giving the troll an edge
Diablo-D3: maybe he can chase the rest the faggots out
pankkake: inputs.io pays the fee for you when you sweep a private key
pankkake: good to know for collecting dust :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 87 @ 0.002989 = 0.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 400 @ 0.00299 = 1.196 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 50 @ 0.00299 = 0.1495 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.0179 = 0.7339 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 340 @ 0.002989 = 1.0163 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.01790064 = 0.5549 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 104 @ 0.00298457 = 0.3104 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.72977550 BTC to 1`459`551 shares, 50 satoshi per share
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ET.DIFF.LONG] 45 @ 0.0127 = 0.5715 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 125 @ 0.00298774 = 0.3735 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00128 = 0.128 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 411 @ 0.00260097 = 1.069 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 2189 @ 0.00251188 = 5.4985 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.2111 = 0.4222 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 165 @ 0.002987 = 0.4929 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0175 = 0.2625 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 6275 @ 0.00247649 = 15.54 BTC [-] {15}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.01723 = 0.2068 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 3725 @ 0.00240821 = 8.9706 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01743 = 0.1394 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash
gribble: 993830.229432
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 362 @ 0.00282211 = 1.0216 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 130 @ 0.0025 = 0.325 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 570 @ 0.00240908 = 1.3732 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.185 = 1.11 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 153 @ 0.00128 = 0.1958 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 42 @ 0.002823 = 0.1186 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 134 @ 0.002822 = 0.3781 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 5000 @ 0.00231936 = 11.5968 BTC [-] {13}
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290007.msg3160495#msg3160495
kakobrekla: O_O
ozbot: Advertise on this forum - Round 96
dexX7: wow
Scrat: dont worry, its all going to new forum software
Scrat: larry ellison himself has been contracted to write it
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 591 @ 0.0029562 = 1.7471 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 140 @ 0.00128019 = 0.1792 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 458 @ 0.00295963 = 1.3555 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: lol at theymos endorsement in sig...
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 840 @ 0.002955 = 2.4822 BTC [-]
lewicki: woah 27 btc for a weeklong ad?
ThickAsThieves: thats per slot too i think
ThickAsThieves: 7x
lewicki: 2 months ago people were laughing over 8btc bets
Scrat: 7*27
lewicki: advertising bubble?
jurov: ;;calc 7*27
gribble: 189
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 99 @ 0.002954 = 0.2924 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.26600, Best ask: 138.50994, Bid-ask spread: 0.24394, Last trade: 138.26600, 24 hour volume: 9077.95048415, 24 hour low: 138.01001, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 139.81938
ThickAsThieves: $avg
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: 131.23
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 61 @ 0.002954 = 0.1802 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 1.81791998 = 45.448 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.01737266 = 0.5212 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0168141 = 1.6814 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 240 @ 0.002925 = 0.702 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.812 = 5.436 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [FIMB] 125 @ 0.010988 = 1.3735 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.812 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 60 @ 1.81023333 = 108.614 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3381 @ 0.00279881 = 9.4628 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 560 @ 0.00280214 = 1.5692 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 8 @ 0.01781 = 0.1425 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.002879 = 1.4395 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 420 @ 0.009322 = 3.9152 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1420 @ 0.00285 = 4.047 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/the-brics-independent-internet-in-defiance-of-the-us-centric-internet/70569/
mircea_popescu: and in other news,
mircea_popescu: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/nsa-spying-european-parliamentarians-call-for-swift-suspension-a-922920.html
ozbot: NSA Spying: European Parliamentarians Call for SWIFT Suspension - SPIEGEL ONLINE
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.881 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 2875 @ 0.00278246 = 7.9996 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.8105 = 3.621 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 562 @ 0.00044828 = 0.2519 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 450 @ 0.00044829 = 0.2017 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 138.11001, Best ask: 138.49998, Bid-ask spread: 0.38997, Last trade: 138.11000, 24 hour volume: 8505.19998371, 24 hour low: 138.01001, 24 hour high: 142.00000, 24 hour vwap: 139.70247
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM1] 2 @ 1.9 = 3.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 6970 @ 0.00275625 = 19.2111 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 180 @ 0.002752 = 0.4954 BTC [-]
pankkake: ;;premium mtgox bitstamp
gribble: mtgox premium over bitstamp is currently 9.6171344983 %.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00128 = 0.256 BTC [-]
Scrat: lol Diablo-D3
mircea_popescu: pankkake no actually, inaba put like 500 btc on the original bfl delivery bet.
mircea_popescu: then got all butthurt when he couldn't have it back.
pankkake: cool
pankkake: http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=37041
ozbot: cryptogon.com » Torvalds On Being Asked to Insert a U.S. Government Back Door Into Linux Kernel
mircea_popescu: this better be with bird flips in it
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 12516 @ 0.00263352 = 32.9611 BTC [-] {18}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 920 @ 0.00259804 = 2.3902 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 537 @ 0.002597 = 1.3946 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: wait, benkay doesn;'t have trilema subscription ?! when did that occur.
mircea_popescu: this log is trippy.
KRS1: When the complimentary trilema subscriptions expired.
mircea_popescu: they don't expire and what complimentary
mircea_popescu: what is this, sweden ?!
KRS1: lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps 'complimentary' means TOR
pankkake: hehe I was going to say that :p
mircea_popescu: isn't that comprodisentery ?
pankkake: I had to set the cookie again today though - not sure why
mircea_popescu: jesus what a punfest. copromisery. etc.
mircea_popescu: pankkake i vaguely recall they having an expiration date to protect people from the random "i visited my ex wife in missisiauga and loaded my cookie in the library computer. so now 57969543489 ppl use it"
pankkake: why isn't subscribing etc. automated anyway?
mircea_popescu: basically because i'm lazy.
pankkake: well, you're likely missing a lot of subscribers - for me it was actually easier to use other IPs
pankkake: so even if I wanted to pay, the lazy route was to cheat
pankkake: hmm actually there might be an even better way to cheat :p
mircea_popescu: i don't care, the ips you use to cheat can't be used by others to cheat.
mircea_popescu: moreover, considering what it icosts, if cheating is time effective then i guess you weren't in the target anyway.
pankkake: cheating is basically using ssh + lynx. I have ~10 IPs at hand at least
mircea_popescu: how much do they cost ?
pankkake: it's sunk cost - they all have their uses
mircea_popescu: yeah well, 10 ips + 15 minutes of computer engineer time to set it all up, 100 dollars.
pankkake: (or I'm not paying, just happen to have ssh access)
mircea_popescu: could have had like 100k credits for the that.
mircea_popescu: yes, but that doesn't make it free.
mircea_popescu: just because i have an apple in front of my window doesn't make the apple i eat off that tree not worth 1/4 euro or w/e thery sell for.
pankkake: but I didn't set them up for it; I simply have them for other uses
mircea_popescu: sooo ?
pankkake: so whether I cheat or not, I do not pay more
mircea_popescu: not nominally.
pankkake: actually paying was a burden for me: I had to talk to you! and I dislike asking people stuff
mircea_popescu: so your impending desocialisation suffered a setback :D
pankkake: yeah
pankkake: I order everything through machines, except food
jurov: pankkake what? you had to telephone mirce or such? *gasp*
pankkake: but again with the lazyness: I usually use paypal even whene there is a CC option, because I don't want to fetch my credit card
pankkake: jurov: no, just ask on IRC
mircea_popescu: i use paypal exclusively because i know better than to share cc details over electronic systems.
mircea_popescu: my cards were never used except in the atms.
pankkake: actually I'm probably more shy on IRC with the "asking stuff" part
mircea_popescu: what asking anyway. you're paying.
pankkake: I never share CC with a random website, but with stores it's usually through a payment processor operated by a bank
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 6 @ 0.017 = 0.102 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm not of the coercive school of ip rights management. as far as i'm concerned there should be some fundamentally sound, lightweight drm in place. if you have the werewithal to circumvent that and find this is something you wish to do, hey. you're an independent agent with a mind of your own.
pankkake: I had to ask what I had to do to subscribe, because your blog does not even state it clearly
pankkake: oh I agree, it's doomed to fail in any case
pankkake: I paid because I wanted to
mircea_popescu: so then.
pankkake: but it took tremendous effort!
mircea_popescu: it works both ways, too. people who'd otherwise be too shy to approach me because of all my ranting feel encouraged when they want to buy something.
mircea_popescu: then they discover i don't bite heads off and well... goes from there.
pankkake: possibly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 4 @ 0.18999 = 0.76 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: pankkake what tremendous effort anyway ? type /query mir/t ?
pankkake: yes
mircea_popescu: you know too much isolation is unhealthy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 8365 @ 0.00092846 = 7.7666 BTC [+] {2}
VanCleef: damn what a retard buying s.mpoe shares
mircea_popescu: oldest company in bitcoin dood.
VanCleef: true, got any osbourne computer stock?
mircea_popescu: nah
VanCleef: i'm feeling riskay
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 632 @ 0.002552 = 1.6129 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3087 @ 0.00254066 = 7.843 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 3 @ 0.09627666 = 0.2888 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 350 @ 0.007033 = 2.4616 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 362 @ 0.009291 = 3.3633 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 713 @ 0.00239814 = 1.7099 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 13 @ 0.009291 = 0.1208 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 18813 @ 0.00092706 = 17.4408 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 210 @ 0.007033 = 1.4769 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 249 @ 0.00233847 = 0.5823 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 210 @ 0.009291 = 1.9511 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 18 @ 0.007033 = 0.1266 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 18 @ 0.009291 = 0.1672 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 376 @ 0.007033 = 2.6444 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 376 @ 0.00233146 = 0.8766 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 26 @ 0.009291 = 0.2416 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 19 @ 0.007033 = 0.1336 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 19 @ 0.009291 = 0.1765 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 350 @ 0.009291 = 3.2519 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 350 @ 0.00231262 = 0.8094 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [PETA-MINE] 2 @ 0.645 = 1.29 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 2 @ 0.0592 = 0.1184 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 39 @ 0.01619229 = 0.6315 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.002374 = 0.2374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00092516 = 3.7932 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu just because some idiots say a thing about me does not truthstuff make
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01758 = 0.1406 BTC [-]
jurov: VanCleef so what would you recommend? labcoin?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 10 @ 0.015898 = 0.159 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 10000 @ 0.00249941 = 24.9941 BTC [-] {23}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 4000 @ 0.00243563 = 9.7425 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3471 @ 0.00242634 = 8.4218 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 3583 @ 0.00240698 = 8.6242 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.854 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1000 @ 0.009291 = 9.291 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 90 @ 0.002375 = 0.2138 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [DMS.MINING] 50 @ 0.002374 = 0.1187 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01758666 = 0.1055 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 40000 @ 0.000402 = 16.08 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 301 @ 0.0025 = 0.7525 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.855 BTC [-]
gesell: can someone give me the current profit % for just-dice?
Scrat: 0.545387%
gesell: thanks
Scrat: dooglus = unlucky
Scrat: I'm at 1.01%
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 22386 @ 0.00133716 = 29.9337 BTC [+] {15}
gesell: Scrat: pretty much same here
Scrat: gesell: url?
gesell: think i misunderstood the statement/question then
Scrat: oh sorry, I meant my website
gesell: ah
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 60 @ 0.00267166 = 0.1603 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.857 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 30 @ 0.0628 = 1.884 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 693 @ 0.00227949 = 1.5797 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0177 = 0.4425 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.854 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [CIPHERMINE-PT] 10 @ 0.0628 = 0.628 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00092411 = 2.7261 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.873 = 5.619 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 44 @ 0.01751431 = 0.7706 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.869 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 260 @ 0.000435 = 0.1131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 9422 @ 0.00093 = 8.7625 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 43 @ 0.009291 = 0.3995 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 1200 @ 0.00255 = 3.06 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 461 @ 0.000435 = 0.2005 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.0023715 = 0.1186 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 92 @ 0.002404 = 0.2212 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 12754 @ 0.0024081 = 30.7129 BTC [-] {21}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [MININGCO.ETF] 116 @ 0.07170076 = 8.3173 BTC [-] {8}
nubbins`: hi
kakobrekla: hi
jcpham: hi
saulimus: hi
assbot: hi
Scrat: hi
TomServo: hi
Azelphur: hi
Rulother: hi
dub: hi
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.859 BTC [-]
jcpham: hi again
kakobrekla: combo breaker
jcpham: FUCK PISS SHIT FUCK CUNT SHIT PISS
jcpham: oops
Scrat: e-tourettes
Duffer1: hola
nubbins`: well then
kakobrekla: hi
nubbins`: hi
ThickAsThieves: hi
jcpham: hi
Scrat: ih
jcpham: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKY0FsUEMyw
ozbot: CALLING ALL THE BASIC BITCHES - YouTube
nubbins`: ıɥ
kakobrekla: i dont understand
nubbins`: turn your face upside-down
kakobrekla: i pivoted my lcd for that but i was thinking basic bitches
ThickAsThieves: face down, ass up
Scrat: I turned my laptop upside down and now there's pubes all over my desk
Scrat: fuck you
kakobrekla: hmm
jcpham: what's a basic bitch
jcpham: and am i one?
kakobrekla: did ya put your dick between kboard and lcd again?
kakobrekla: get a lenovo, has less space between ze keys
nubbins`: get a macbook
Scrat: but lenovo has this evil red eye between G ang H
nubbins`: it has shiny space between ze keys
kakobrekla: mac is for fags only
jcpham: https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/733800_4639770771425_172606874_n.jpg
nubbins`: but… but i'm married to a woman
kakobrekla: shes a fag then!
jcpham: hindsight is 20/20 amirite
ThickAsThieves: xray vision is 20/20
Rulother: reddit
ThickAsThieves: hated it
nubbins`: besides, people hate on mac but they're just jealous
nubbins`: that their system isn't based on a rock-hard bsd kernel
jcpham: Rulother yeah i know it came from reddit but my wife doesn't
jcpham: she thinks my glasses are in my ass
Rulother: So now she's starting to wondering about those late night appointments you've been making now eh?
jcpham: mmmhmmmm
jcpham: all her friends and businees associates too
jcpham: because i put it on her facebook for fun
Rulother: lol
jcpham: they look just like my glasses so it's funny
jcpham: r/Bitcoin/ gets boring quick so i'm straight to lolcats
nubbins`: just had two guys come pick up an order, they looked baked
Rulother: a band order?
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: t-shirts and posters
Rulother: well there ya go
kakobrekla: do you do other graphical work too?
Rulother: A bunch of "yea yeah yea these look amazing! Thanks mane!"
nubbins`: kakobrekla: this is mostly what i do these days
nubbins`: shirt/poster/album art
kakobrekla: hm ok
nubbins`: thats not to say it's all i do, but that's what i spend most of my time doing
kakobrekla: ill keep that in mind, you in states right though?
nubbins`: canada
kakobrekla: k
nubbins`: band shirts: http://imgur.com/a/bBztm
kakobrekla: nothing like having your co-worker or whatever on irc
nubbins`: few things like it, anyway
mircea_popescu: benkay it's kinda funny for me to read you and bingobongo guy going at each other cause i know neither's an idiot
nubbins`: i'm very partial to those charcoal shirts
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 1424 @ 0.00226917 = 3.2313 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: it's a lot less easy to procrastinate when it's quiet in here
mircea_popescu: how so ?
ThickAsThieves: Coinvoice: Invoice in USD, receive BTC ☟︎
ThickAsThieves: ^ worst name ever
nubbins`: well, no conversation makes me feel like i should be doing work
nubbins`: coinvoice, lel
ThickAsThieves: the coins speak to me
nubbins`: every time there's a new btc thing with "coin" in the name, a part of me dies
nubbins`: HOW CLEVER
nubbins`: IT SEZ COIN
ThickAsThieves: i dont mind it in all cases
ThickAsThieves: but many, yeah
mircea_popescu: it should have been bitboince.
mircea_popescu: because b/v are ambiguous in like 1400. and so it'd be very clever yes?
ThickAsThieves: shoulda been fuckyoupayme
nubbins`: boincevoice
mircea_popescu: let's make dumb names.
mircea_popescu: InceptionBit. The last billing service you'll ever use.
nubbins`: binvoice
ThickAsThieves: Recepticoin
nubbins`: because something
Duffer1: blockunchained
nubbins`: lel
mircea_popescu: CoinSerious. Wallet service.
nubbins`: unchained blockody
ThickAsThieves: iputcoinsinyourcoins.bro
nubbins`: coinucopia
nubbins`: faucet
mircea_popescu: o no wait. coinesour. buy aussie wine with btc.
nubbins`: ooh, i like
ThickAsThieves: countcoinula
nubbins`: convict - bail bonds for btc
nubbins`: coinvict, i mean
Duffer1: ha
mircea_popescu: seeing how connoisseur isn't spelled that way, you should.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha convict rules.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves bitsincoins. maybe a food delivery ?
nubbins`: kibbles & bits, animal food for btc
ThickAsThieves: we'll come up with better business ideas making up names than the people coming up with names making up businesses
mircea_popescu: actually someone should make a comic staring LeCoin, the moustachy evil guy,
mircea_popescu: hahaha damn straight.
ThickAsThieves: pepelecoin
nubbins`: "sometimes, you gotta TAKE the wallets"
mircea_popescu: NIOC - mirros delivered anywhere!
nubbins`: IHOC - international house of coins
mircea_popescu: CoinCon, the investment fund & more.
ThickAsThieves: coinhole
nubbins`: coinca-cola
mircea_popescu: o totally.
nubbins`: lel
ThickAsThieves: hehe
nubbins`: coin on the cob
mircea_popescu: coinhole. selling corn on the cobb in 27 state fairs.
nubbins`: coinography
ThickAsThieves: or a pub name
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: i'd drink at the coinhole
ThickAsThieves: coininthewall
mircea_popescu: rabbit. quick downloads for btc.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it should be coinvct not convict
nubbins`: nubbins`: convict - bail bonds for btc
nubbins`: nubbins`: coinvict, i mean
mircea_popescu: i read it that way originally but then on reread... SCANDAL!
ThickAsThieves: cointest
nubbins`: autocorrect
nubbins`: cointest!
ThickAsThieves: americasnexttopcoin
mircea_popescu: autocoinrect. touchtype software.
mircea_popescu: o that's good.
mircea_popescu: realgoodvirtualcoin
ThickAsThieves: necromonicoin
nubbins`: !
nubbins`: coindescending
kakobrekla: i am the great coinholio.
nubbins`: book tables at snooty restaurants
mircea_popescu: lol
ThickAsThieves: we're using up all the names, the VC's are fucked
mircea_popescu: coinborn. cribs & baby shoes.
nubbins`: all mine are available for licensing
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves hence my evil plan *cackle*
ThickAsThieves: cointroduction
ThickAsThieves: dating site
nubbins`: coinderwater
mircea_popescu: coincum, your pet's best chum.
nubbins`: coinworker, put rent-a-coder out of business
mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's an actual service.
nubbins`: lel, i was just gonna say
ThickAsThieves: coinsipid
mircea_popescu: goiterbit. food supplements and special neckwear.
nubbins`: HAH
nubbins`: idodized salt & turtlenecks
ThickAsThieves: mannyscoinsandautoparts
nubbins`: only items for sale
mircea_popescu: "you bit it, you buy it".
mircea_popescu: funeral services.
nubbins`: coinjoined twins -- baby clothes for children with too many bodies
mircea_popescu: cause what, they are deflationary ?
ThickAsThieves: coingroin hw wallet fannypacks
mircea_popescu: coinwall, aluminum siding firm in cornwall, england.
mircea_popescu: and also, maybe turkland renames istanbul back into coinstantinople-bit ?
pankkake: kakobrekla: hating on macs and a beavis and butthead reference? if you were a girl I'd give you coinilingus
ThickAsThieves: coinstantcontact
kakobrekla: lol
kakobrekla: i might sound like tits but it really is dick.
ThickAsThieves: coinversation next social media
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 4 @ 0.18999 = 0.76 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: buzzword-keyword-coin
mircea_popescu: social media & escort services.
pankkake: hashcoin?
mircea_popescu: blotterbit. buy your lsd for cheap!
nubbins`: hash hash - dual purpose miner / vaporizer
ThickAsThieves: bitbybit dentures
mircea_popescu: ha!
pankkake: both potheads and miners have high electric consuption. makes sense to combine
mircea_popescu: Triple Coin. All-bitcoin horse racing.
pankkake: coinsumption
pankkake: coinception
mircea_popescu: coink. pig farm in oregon.
ThickAsThieves: bitness protection program
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: that'd be a good wallet.
mircea_popescu: dude we gotta stop, we created more value than the ipo market in the past six months.
nubbins`: if we keep going, people are going to start trying to exchange XBOND for it
ThickAsThieves: i think my fave so far was necromonicoin, someone make that an altcoin plz
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: im personally holding out for niggercoin
nubbins`: necronomicoin, blockchain-based pandemic tracking
mircea_popescu: the alt to end all racism.
pankkake: haven't seen any vampire/goth/etc. related altcoin actually. sad
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: super sad
mircea_popescu: pankkake well we're too mainstream for goth
ThickAsThieves: have an emocoin
ThickAsThieves: youll feel better
mircea_popescu: bitemo!
ThickAsThieves: emoticoin!
nubbins`: emoticoin
nubbins`: ooh
nubbins`: you beat me to it
nubbins`: hashtronomical - telescopes and sky charts for btc
nubbins`: brb fresh air break
pankkake: by the way I have an idea for an altcoin but I am too lazy to figure out how to create it (there is nothing to gain, it would be designed as unpreminable because of its stupid design)
ThickAsThieves: bitinstant coffee
pankkake: the name is great too
pankkake: maybe I'll wait for april 1st
ThickAsThieves: bitstamp stamps
thestringpuller: bitstamp stamps would turn into a ponzi
ThickAsThieves: coindesk desks
thestringpuller: Charles Ponzi would come back from the dead and pretend to send them.
mircea_popescu: so i bought walnuts. huge things cause fresh. i crack one, worm in it says HI! crack another, some sort of weird moth thing.
pankkake: bittramp stamps
mircea_popescu: im looking at the 3rd and thinking... chicken ?
nubbins`: you really need awkward names
nubbins`: like coinffee
pankkake: lol, the worst I had was just walnuts full of dirt
pankkake: ah well, romanian food
pankkake: you'll find a horse, not chicken, in the next walnut
nubbins`: http://articles.latimes.com/1994-08-12/news/mn-26407_1_condom-inside
ozbot: Canadian Woman Finds Condom in Walnut - Los Angeles Times
mircea_popescu: a horse does not fit in a nut therefore your argument is coinvalid.
nubbins`: coinvalid sounds ultra-valid
nubbins`: hm
ThickAsThieves: or very ill
nubbins`: coinvalid: home care services
pankkake: coinvestment
pankkake: romanian guy finds coindom in walnut
mircea_popescu: coinmorbidity.
nubbins`: my coindom for a horse
pankkake: :D
mircea_popescu: i am a coindom! you kidding me ?
mircea_popescu: all my slavebits!
pankkake: do they have big bits?
mircea_popescu: as far as possible.
pankkake: with big ripples?
pankkake: sensitive ripples
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: lel
mircea_popescu: actually big tits do have a ripple.
nubbins`: my ripples are rock-hard
ThickAsThieves: knitbit textiles
mircea_popescu: have the girl on her back and slap the tit
pankkake: coinbred
nubbins`: coinbread
ThickAsThieves: coinbit /thread
mircea_popescu: coinbred is like, pastry or conception support ?
pankkake: coin + inbred
nubbins`: the chickoin shack
ThickAsThieves: drillbit
nubbins`: icedrill
nubbins`: ;p
mod6: bitcramp - providing maxi pads for BTC
ThickAsThieves: saybitaintso - scam reports
nubbins`: ok, ovens are heated up, gotta print a dozen shirts
nubbins`: SOMEBODY TIME ME
mircea_popescu: ;;echo go for it pizza boy!
gribble: go for it pizza boy!
ThickAsThieves: bitsnotatumor
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 6 @ 0.017 = 0.102 BTC [-]
pankkake: here's a bittramp stamp: https://lh3.ggpht.com/-NKixDgBe9dI/ThvMeY-Qo6I/AAAAAAAAAt4/kx985Qd3UZI/s640/bitcoin-tattoo-2.jpg
ThickAsThieves: bittitude
ThickAsThieves: bitlip - body jewelry
pankkake: bitanic
ThickAsThieves: gay dating site?
ThickAsThieves: bisexual*
mircea_popescu: is that a really badly done tattoo or am i just unexpert ?
deizel: bitcoinsexchange.com (later a hyphen is added to clear things up, bitcoins-exchange.com)
pankkake: oh. bite in French means cock so… :)
ThickAsThieves: its a areally bad everything
ThickAsThieves: ick
mircea_popescu: deizel ok that ones pretty good.
ThickAsThieves: lol
pankkake: mircea_popescu: seems bad
ThickAsThieves: bitthedust - cremation service
benkay: mircea_popescu: bingoboingo and i were doing performance co-trolling last night
pankkake: must be hard not to move when tatooed there though
mircea_popescu: benkay a that's what it iwas.
mircea_popescu: pankkake why ? pubic shield dones't hurt much.
ThickAsThieves: bitthehandthatfeedsyou - welfare dist
pankkake: it's kind of ticklish
ThickAsThieves: bitslikeaglove - condoms
ThickAsThieves: I CNAT STOP
mircea_popescu: coinstop.
pankkake: bitplug
mircea_popescu: they totally gotta put those usb sticks in dildos already
pankkake: they would burn you
benkay: we could breed bitbulls
ThickAsThieves: bittheroadjack - divorce attorney
benkay: pankkake: dat fine line between pain and pleasure :)
mircea_popescu: pankkake they get that hot ? i doubt it. have you SEEN how hot girls get down there man ?!
pankkake: the usb sticks really burn my fingers
ThickAsThieves: dontbitwhereyoueat - litter boxes
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: after brain damage from gpu waste heat, vaginal burns from usb asic miner dildo would defo put us on the map.
pankkake: recycle bit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: glue a Stirling engine to the asic, convert heat to vibration...
mircea_popescu: bint lol.
ThickAsThieves: thatbitsthespot - vibrators
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bitachi!
ThickAsThieves: fruitofmycoins
pankkake: or simply: bitch
ThickAsThieves: naughtybits
mircea_popescu: if anyone wonders how a stirling engine looks : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/BetaStirlingTG4web.svg
mircea_popescu: seems perfectly adequate for the application.
ThickAsThieves: flatliners! http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-brain-activity-death-20130918,0,4315042.story
pankkake: the phallic resemblance can't be a coincidence
asciilifeform: who can forget, http://gizmodo.com/5466997/the-steam+powered-vibrator-and-other-terrifying-early-sex-machines-nsfw
ThickAsThieves: lol microsoft really is taking Elop?
pankkake: really?
pankkake: then my question would be… but who is going to buy microsoft?
kakobrekla: lesbians
pankkake: why lesbits?
kakobrekla: cause they dont like it big and hard
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/19/4748738/nokias-stephen-elop-to-make-more-than-25-million-for-jumping-to-microsoft
ozbot: Nokia's Stephen Elop to make more than $25 million for jumping to Microsoft | The Verge
pankkake: ooh
ThickAsThieves: nic arb
ThickAsThieves: nice*
Scrat: ThickAsThieves: rofl you couldn't make this up
Scrat: so funny
ThickAsThieves: "He'll be leading up Microsoft's expanded devices division when the acquisition is complete, but given that there's a recently vacated CEO position at Redmond there's the possibility of even greater rewards in Elop's future."
pankkake: the guy gets millions for ruining companies
pankkake: how can this exist
pankkake: nokia shareholders must be mad as hell
ThickAsThieves: he probly has nudes of god
jcpham: gotta parachute those execs man
jcpham: 'cause they've worked for it
ThickAsThieves: he has the password to Nokia
ThickAsThieves: and wouldnt share it
jcpham: wut
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: ruining some companies is a public service
mircea_popescu: like microsoft.
ThickAsThieves: thats one way to look at it
jcpham: i don't understand any of these tech companies anymore except google
ThickAsThieves: but couldnt they ruin it faster?
jcpham: and google just wants to do crazy shit
ThickAsThieves: google wants to do ALL shit
mircea_popescu: i was glad yahoo got that chick what's her face, i was sad microsoft is replacing balmer, but if it's elop...
ThickAsThieves: their walls are made of noodles
jcpham: i guess if you aren't being like a technical innovator at life
jcpham: and solving life problems
jcpham: you're old hat
ThickAsThieves: yeah Yahoo getting Marissa was good
jcpham: microsoft needs to solve a need to become relevant again
jcpham: same for yahoo
pankkake: i'll miss chair-throwing monkey boy
ThickAsThieves: yahoo is probly mopping up internally first
mircea_popescu: jcpham yahoo has pretty much all the world's yahoos
ThickAsThieves: maybe next year we'll see bigger moves
jcpham: hahaha
mircea_popescu: i still fidn this hard to believe, but > 90% of rtomanians have yahoo email.
mircea_popescu: my server just drops mail with "yahoo" in headers.
mircea_popescu: this includes my mother's only email address, and pretty much any romanian company out there.
pankkake: and the French have hotmail - thankfully a thing of the past but…
kakobrekla: lol
jcpham: yeah my wife has a yahoo email address
mircea_popescu: texas-local-television@yahoo.com happens here.
mircea_popescu: jcpham kill her.
jcpham: and surprising i know lots of peeps with them still
jcpham: i have one too but haven't logged in in years
ThickAsThieves: does aol still have email?
jcpham: it must be the webmail niche still
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yup
jcpham: because yahoo was one of the first to offer that
ThickAsThieves: seems like that should be a collectible
ThickAsThieves: aol email addies
mircea_popescu: i think it is
jcpham: then they got into competetion with storage space and stuff if you remember
mircea_popescu: oldscjhool by now. weirdo retired uni profs have them
jcpham: who's webmail had the most free shit
jcpham: yahoo was on top of that race until gmail
ThickAsThieves: hotmail/outlook web mail looks pretty nice now
ThickAsThieves: i still wont use it tho
asciilifeform: AOL lives, still. there even remain rural pestholes in the U.S. where they're the only game in town.
jcpham: that's crazy
asciilifeform: (well, that and iridium sat)
jcpham: i bet dialup too
ThickAsThieves: $email
mpexbot: ThickAsThieves: To sign up for this service, contact smickles. Cost will be 0.01 BTC.
mircea_popescu: how to know you're not really in the us
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.857 = 3.714 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: mpexbot works for nsa btw
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla omfg stop spreading fudlies
pankkake: http://youtu.be/e8M6S8EKbnU?t=1m9s amazing company!
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
ozbot: The best of Steve Ballmer - YouTube
mircea_popescu: assbot should ocasionally say "amazing company your mom is"
ThickAsThieves: god that video is horrible
kakobrekla: 4x6 px
Diablo-D3: >developers developers developers developers
pankkake: while True: developers
ThickAsThieves: Is Bitcoin the Beginning or the End of Banking as we know it? ~reddit
ThickAsThieves: Yes!
pankkake: let's ask the same question every day ~reddit
Rulother: cats ~reddit
jcpham: i like the fact that I can buy a 6500k off the grid solar tie in kit for 48 bitcoins
jcpham: i'm waiting on the price to drop to a few btc before i jump into solar
kakobrekla: solar is out
jcpham: no one sells mr fusion
jcpham: pre-order only :(
jurov: lmao these names
jurov: i literall just today registered livestocks.me
jurov: it *will* be used ;)
ThickAsThieves: am both totally and totally not interested in this article http://www.riabiz.com/a/24063560/how-the-winklevoss-twins-presence-at-a-big-nyc-hedgie-event-cut-the-torpor-and-distracted-from-the-poor-job-most-hedge-funds-are-doing-for-clients
ThickAsThieves: i assume it sucks
mircea_popescu: you know, not a single fuckable chick i ever talked to had a reddit.
pankkake: you're ambitvalent?
mircea_popescu: nope.
ThickAsThieves: jurov, but it has no coinbits in the name?
pankkake: it was for TAT
ThickAsThieves: how will you get VCs?
jurov: no, but it has sheep
pankkake: oh, it's not a sex slave market?
jurov: ain't need no filthy VCs
ThickAsThieves: i'm probly late to this realization, but yesterday it occurred to me that the Bitcoin Foundation is worse than just being a bunch of cointreprenuers
ThickAsThieves: it's a shell org to act as catchall for for VC opportunities
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: worse
ThickAsThieves: by offering grants
mircea_popescu: tomorrow you'll wake up to further realisations,
mircea_popescu: and then i'll be an asshole and link you to 2012 and well...
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: it publicly joined a traitorous 'NSA club'
jcpham: lol'd at trace meyer endorsements
ThickAsThieves: if there's one thing we can count on mp, it's that tomorrow when we wake up you'll still be an asshole
jurov: it's grup of kids cooperating to avoid doing their homework as mircea nicely put it
ThickAsThieves: :)
jcpham: mr. how to disappear wants to be on the board
Rulother: lol
jcpham: seems hypocritical
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was made by well known vc circuit fraudster vesseness. it collected "donations". it used said donations to prop ycombinator-driven "businesses", that incidentally never got anywhere. what did you expect it to do next ?
mircea_popescu: try and recycle more average-stupid-american into "relevancy", package it and sell it.
nubbins`: hi
mircea_popescu: support bfl scammers while that was good, pretend it never did afterwards, the way shit works.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so where's the authoritative 'clean' bitcoind fork?
ThickAsThieves: the Trace guy like pre-announced his Armory investment via board debates
mircea_popescu: i am not at liberty to discuss.
ThickAsThieves: was very slimey
ThickAsThieves: Armory having received BitFoundation grant money
ThickAsThieves: Trace running for board
ThickAsThieves: birds, feathers
jcpham: all coincidental
mircea_popescu: coincidental indeed.
ThickAsThieves: so of course i must join board next
dub: joerg wants to be hardcore
ThickAsThieves: front run teh IPOz!
jcpham: so if you want to be on the board you need to be a talking head
jcpham: and make "someone has a gun to your head" youtube videoa
ThickAsThieves: memories:
jcpham: all that stuff
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like bitcoind users are 'setting themselves up the bomb' by running the foundation's crap - sooner they quit, the better
ThickAsThieves: http://imgur.com/1GJRHGd
mircea_popescu: jcpham yes. as long as you speak american, in order to be anything anywhere within the structure you have to be a talking head. that's the thing. thats why obama's not black, even if he is a nigger.
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
jcpham: i get the talking head thing
jcpham: i used to make fun of them but i get it now
mircea_popescu: what happened to you, got married ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it makes relatively little difference what the dust bitcoiners are running.
jcpham: witnessed enough idiocy in action that leads to further opportunities
jcpham: yes
mircea_popescu: in a sense it's good that they follow the crud, self limiting disease on both ends.
jcpham: it's really not even important if you know what you are talking about
jcpham: and it doesn't even need to be true
jcpham: you just need enough media and TV to expose you
mircea_popescu: "need".
jcpham: horse-head SCRYPT.ASIC bitfunder IPO youtube video
jcpham: gogogog
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure btc is ready to lose the chump money collector that is the 'dust' users?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it won't be btc. the beauty is that we're perfectly severable. i just sit here and wait, and the scammers build themselves up. when their building becomes unsustainable for them, i cut their rope and they choke.
mircea_popescu: so, dust collectors follow the qt. at some point the qt is used to deliver some value away from the users. i say so, and point to bf. end of story.
mircea_popescu: this is why bitcoin destroys the welfare system : because it is a strictly bound system.
dub: one thing is certain
mircea_popescu: welfare needs eternally expanding system.
dub: lizzy ploshay is a CIA plant
mircea_popescu: but as long as i have the total energy and it's fixed, you can't run fake perpetuum mobiles.
asciilifeform: if the chumps decamp en masse, btc might end up as a Hawala for a dozen people.
assbot: [MPEX] [S] [S.MPOE] 21770 @ 0.00093426 = 20.3388 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: they don't decamp btc. they decamp obama, go vote rumsfeld or w/e
mircea_popescu: as IF.
asciilifeform: i can't help but suspect that bitcoind-as-we-know-it is only a Schelling point b/c virtually no one understands the code
mircea_popescu: this would be a step this way from what i recall your last position, which was that it isn't.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i still think that in the abstract it isn't, given that there's nothing magic about the code (quite a few people, myself included, have understood it)
mircea_popescu: it's a schelling point exactly because it introduces hard binds on the system of everyrthing.
asciilifeform: a great many interesting things could be done (bring back the turing-complete 'script' engine, for one)
mircea_popescu: these can then be used to make the spinning lying circus the us brought us impracticable.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 43 @ 0.002637 = 0.1134 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: much like the reason it never arose earlier, say in england.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the french revolution TRIED. hard. it failed, and it failed because the hard bounds of that system sunk them.
mircea_popescu: ie, gold.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you underestimate the tenacity of the circus clowns; they'll continue with Zimbabwean fiat if they have to
mircea_popescu: tenacity is irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: nobody was mroe tenacious than la grande armee
mircea_popescu: but in the end, if you don't have it you don't have it and that's the end of the story.
asciilifeform: so where's the kutuzov for the anglo bonaparte?
mircea_popescu: you'll find out when they invade russia.
mircea_popescu: you didn't know who kutuzov was before the event.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the notion that lies enact reality are no different from the earlier socialistoid propositions that work enacts currency, as brought by hitler in the 30s and by the various revolutionaires right before the empire.
mircea_popescu: they're both false, in the sense of that quote, that useful work is limited but useless work infinite.
ThickAsThieves: The next asicminer! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297334.msg1521109;topicseen#new
asciilifeform: the fuhrer's playground didn't exactly go broke and keel over on its own accord.
pankkake: The HotAir Mining Company
ThickAsThieves: Sun Fart Mining
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it did go broke.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 250 @ 0.000402 = 0.1005 BTC [-]
pankkake: moderated topic, can't do a "reserved" I guess
dub: ;;nethash
gribble: 993830.229432
ThickAsThieves: we could just spam the thread with Reserved posts
ThickAsThieves: or rather, Amazing company!
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
mircea_popescu: or pictures of milk
ThickAsThieves: or mp on a horse meme
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: actually milk trollage has the advantage that it's so wtf nonsensical the noob scammer is likely to try and entertasin it.
mircea_popescu: because they never do their fucking homework, they always just asume.
mircea_popescu: and so... ask them if they are lactose intollerant
mircea_popescu: and what do they think about also getting into the milk buysines
ThickAsThieves: google image search for "mircea popescu on a horse" is pretty odd
ThickAsThieves: the sharpie ass comes up
ThickAsThieves: a naked lady
ThickAsThieves: a horse penis
ThickAsThieves: the usual i guess
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i see a pig, the fixed portrait of jesus
ThickAsThieves: hehe, fixed
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 142 @ 0.00242772 = 0.3447 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [CBTC] 50000 @ 0.00040059 = 20.0295 BTC [-] {5}
nubbins`: http://socialsafe.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/last-supper-restoration.jpg
mircea_popescu: yah, that.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 108 @ 0.002431 = 0.2625 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/
mircea_popescu: "There’s a catch though : pretty much all this infernal machinery of doom depends upon the continual, endless and unavoidable debasement of the currency. If inflation is no longer a fact, if avoiding it becomes not common but even possible, nothing in the grand scheme of socialism works anymore. Nothing at all, everything depends on that."
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 68 @ 0.00243152 = 0.1653 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: socialism sounds a lot like the mining scene
ThickAsThieves: satoshi just took the inflation out of the money and put it into the difficulty
kakobrekla: diff has nothing to do with ammt of money printed
mircea_popescu: ya srsly i don't fgollow that reasoning
ThickAsThieves: ity wasnt exactky meant to be apt
ThickAsThieves: meanwhile: http://imgur.com/aGVVKWE
ThickAsThieves: shoulda worn some sunglasses!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 6 @ 0.18999 = 1.1399 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: i am of surprised nobody made a penis one
jborkl: That is in TAT's private archive
mircea_popescu: lol
ThickAsThieves: http://i.imgur.com/RQJqOXY.jpg
ThickAsThieves: admittedly, i think i used up all my creativity for the day on coinbit names
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.812 = 18.12 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: these pretzels are making me thirsty.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : i wonder if american ppls are better than romanians at americana.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/test-de-americana/
ozbot: Test de Americana pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: that was never solved.
mircea_popescu: (question is, which town and coming from where is the pic)
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 2625 @ 0.00243023 = 6.3794 BTC [-] {3}
dub: http://www.radarnoticias.com/painel/modulos/galerias/pastas/2012-05-15_1337094462/1337094490602.jpg slightly disturbing image search hit for that
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.86099999 = 7.444 BTC [+] {4}
jborkl: https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/1-gh-cloud-hosted-bitcoin-hashing-power.html
jborkl: :/
ozbot: Bitcoin Mining Hardware Mining by the GH - Homepage new products - Butterfly Labs
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> (question is, which town and coming from where is the pic) philly
mircea_popescu: nop
ThickAsThieves: looks similar tho
ThickAsThieves: hrm
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 526 @ 0.00221 = 1.1625 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.812 = 3.624 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.12 = 0.36 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1652 = 0.3304 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 4200 @ 0.00242076 = 10.1672 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 82 @ 0.01731865 = 1.4201 BTC [-] {8}
dub: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 135770027.318 based on data since last change | 138834360.724 based on data for last three days
ThickAsThieves: Detroit?
mircea_popescu: nop.
ThickAsThieves: ah well
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.01721 = 0.5163 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i don't think you can identify it if you've not been on the exact road
mircea_popescu: but otherwise i think it's pretty obvious
mjr_: whats up everyone
mircea_popescu: so like 0.1% odds or less i guess
ThickAsThieves: sup josh
mircea_popescu: mjr_ not much, going to watch cocksucker blues with innocent girlies.
ThickAsThieves: are you a traitor yet?
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GOLD] 492 @ 0.00505192 = 2.4855 BTC [-] {8}
mjr_: hmm
mjr_: is that a new movie?
mjr_: i'm in panama and loving it
ThickAsThieves: sweet
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LTC-ATF.B2] 20 @ 0.01148 = 0.2296 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ET.DIFF.LONG] 10 @ 0.01356899 = 0.1357 BTC [+] {3}
Duffer1: http://www.zdnet.com/pay-heed-to-the-internets-third-wave-cows-of-disruption-7000020878/
Duffer1: interesting read
ozbot: Pay heed to the internet's Third Wave Cows of Disruption | ZDNet
thestringpuller: Duffer1: yoyoyo
thestringpuller: pm
dub: cows have been disrupting tech for a while actually
dub: dairy being one of the drivers of 'big data' from the outset
kakobrekla: we need more cows, these methane levels just arent cutting it, im cold.
cosmo: does bitfunders graph cause problems for other peoples browsers as well? everytime i try to change it it lags like hell then i get a stop script prompt from firefox
zoinky: hide that ish
cosmo: but i wanna look at it :s
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.645 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 265 @ 0.002357 = 0.6246 BTC [+] {3}
gesell1: so we have to start saying XBT rather than BTC?
kakobrekla: only hipsters say XBT
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.645 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 625 @ 0.002421 = 1.5131 BTC [+]
gesell1: but i am a hipster
gesell1: i mean, i assumed we all were
ThickAsThieves: nah its how we'll discern wall st wanna-bes
gesell1: huh, hipsters are wallst wannabes?
ThickAsThieves: i just shaved my ironic neckbeard so, maybe
kakobrekla: i hope everyone uses xbt and when i add it to mt4 at some point, i call it BTC
gesell1: "B⃦ has been the standard currency sign for BTC for a long time." --https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_symbol What ass do people pull this shit from.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ACTIVEMINING] 272 @ 0.002357 = 0.6411 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.852 BTC [+]
dub: is that the bloomberg symbol?
gesell1: didnt cut paste but its the double vertical bar through the B symbol
ThickAsThieves: i only see a box
matuszed: Bberg is just mimicing the iso
ThickAsThieves: is my fonts outta date or sumth?
matuszed: Mine looks silly too
gesell1: see tha link
kakobrekla: just use /b/
ThickAsThieves: link shows funny box too
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 934 @ 0.00242 = 2.2603 BTC [-]
gesell1: /b/coin for /b/tards
ThickAsThieves: bittarded
ThickAsThieves: bitarded
Diablo-D3: btarded
ThickAsThieves: bitardus
ThickAsThieves: tardis*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [HIM] 2 @ 0.18999 = 0.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.0024145 = 12.0725 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [S] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0168 = 0.336 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1000 @ 0.009291 = 9.291 BTC [-]
dub: mmm 25 gigglebits of ios7 updates
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8700 @ 0.00240962 = 20.9637 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1000 @ 0.00230077 = 2.3008 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0024 = 2.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 65 @ 0.0024 = 0.156 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: lol kraken, btc is xbt and ltc is ltc!
kakobrekla: dunno if these guys know what they are doing
Duffer1: how did they come up with xbt anyways
kakobrekla: well, it is the standard of retards
kakobrekla: Duffer1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_4217
kakobrekla: some idiot put XBT inthere
Duffer1: oh x = no country code then?
kakobrekla: THIS IS BAT COUNTRY!
dub: X is the internets
dub: short for xxx
kakobrekla: they put x in front cause its sounds more dope
ThickAsThieves: stands for Christ
ThickAsThieves: the preferred coin of Jesus
assbot: [BTCTC] [FN] [DMS.SELLING] 1000 @ 0.00708693 = 7.0869 BTC [+] {6}
kakobrekla: hm
jurov: i've seen xlt for litecoin somewhere
jurov: cant remember
ThickAsThieves: sounds like a mcdonalds burger
jurov: https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php?topic=5427.0 googled this..
ozbot: Litecoin Association Meetings Talking Points, Notes and Log
jurov: they even mimic btc foundation
jurov: chicken hipsters
ThickAsThieves: lol at the log
ThickAsThieves: they sound very important
kakobrekla: like as much as us
ThickAsThieves: we dont organize
ThickAsThieves: or attempt to
kakobrekla: yeah, we kill solo ;)
ThickAsThieves: not sure if the Q got to you, but is there an RSS just for resolved bitbets?
kakobrekla: is on todo, early next week im out of time sry
ThickAsThieves: cool cool
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 150 @ 0.00116001 = 0.174 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: happy to see the new stuffs lately
ThickAsThieves: calculators and fancy assbottery
kakobrekla: kako is not dead, yet.
ThickAsThieves: "Department of Defense office manages to find a new fax machine to accept FOIA requests"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 150 @ 0.00116 = 0.174 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 45953 @ 0.00227094 = 104.3565 BTC [-] {41}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 46421 @ 0.00220473 = 102.3458 BTC [-] {15}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4000 @ 0.00216064 = 8.6426 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 68964 @ 0.00208342 = 143.681 BTC [-] {65}
ThickAsThieves: nice
ThickAsThieves: dexx7, what hapnd! <@assbot> [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 68964 @ 0.00208342 = 143.681 BTC [-] {65}
Duffer1: zero news, lets dump a 150k shares!
saulimus: :o
dexX7: :D
dexX7: i have no idea
Kleeck__: lol
Kleeck__: wow
kakobrekla: all nice summed up :)
ThickAsThieves: and in 10min therell be 150k buys?
Duffer1: someone added a zero to their sell order? :P
ThickAsThieves: is {65} the record?
kakobrekla: prolly
dexX7: !highscore << want!
ThickAsThieves: must track important records like that
Duffer1: i like that idea dex
kakobrekla: !freehookers << want!
kakobrekla: but only mp gets that.
dexX7: hehe
ThickAsThieves: are they hookers if they are free?
Scrat: oh shit assbot is smart now?
ThickAsThieves: havent they lost enough?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 321 @ 0.01615563 = 5.186 BTC [-] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.18999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.01713624 = 0.6854 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 12 @ 0.016 = 0.192 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 100 @ 0.00233079 = 0.2331 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.811 BTC [-]