mircea_popescu: just in case someone else may get a chuckle out of this :
assbot: Bitcoin Pete @bitcoinpete 3h @bendavenport @coindesk You too, Ben? Where did - Pastebin.com
gribble: Time since last block: 17 minutes and 27 seconds
assbot: Dakh Daughters "Rozy / Donbass" (live acoustic) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.02300654 = 0.4601 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00099859 = 12.9817 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 4 @ 0.138 = 0.552 BTC [+]
assbot: Lousy recoveries: No one (important) wants faster growth | The Economist
mircea_popescu: possibly the most retarded article of the week, yet standard fare in today's "climate change" style of pseudo-ecinomics
mircea_popescu: "The bitter truth is that central banks launch economies off the ZLB when politicians force them to. This was true of many economies in the 1930s, it seems like it will be true of Japan, and there is every indication that it will prove true of Europe and America. The ZLB is not an economic problem. It's not about deleveraging or inflation targets. It is a political problem. Preventing the kind of crisis and recovery is
mircea_popescu: easy: just have a political majority committed to something different. "
mircea_popescu: something different aka, let's all be rich permanently for free.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00099859 = 7.9887 BTC [-]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 439.16, Best ask: 439.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.74000, Last trade: 439.9, 24 hour volume: 5856.32329823, 24 hour low: 430.61, 24 hour high: 442.74, 24 hour vwap: 437.258929729
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00100164 = 11.9696 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: "The argument here would be that unconventional policy might be just as effective as conventional policy, but if the Fed is less willing to use it then the ZLB still represents a constraint. " LoL sentence
decimation: If only we could charge people for saving money - imagine the heights of absurdity to which we could steer the currency!
mircea_popescu: all you really need is for 1 = 2. after that, everything is one single step away.
BingoBoingo: In this way Bitcoin has stronger regulation than the USD ever can.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00099852 = 9.436 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: "but all you really need is for the politicians to decide otherwise!111"
mircea_popescu: really instructive by contrast with actual economy, the economist.
assbot: BitBet - MERS in US: over 50 cases before July :: 0.54 B (42%) on Yes, 0.76 B (58%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 99`831 (100`000 to 1)
assbot: BitBet - TradeFortress arrested :: 0.03 B (25%) on Yes, 0.09 B (75%) on No | closed 2 weeks 2 hours ago
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0063501 = 0.2223 BTC [+]
assbot: Glenn Greenwald: 'I don't trust the UK not to arrest me. Their behaviour has been extreme' | World news | The Guardian
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't trust the uk to anything. it's basically the political equivalent of nevada. an uninhabited wasteland where you test nukes.
mircea_popescu: "But it's true. He wasn't great at encryption. In common with most journalists working today, he had no clue about tools that would have allowed him to communicate with sources privately, without fear of NSA or any other snooping."
mircea_popescu: these people can't math even to the degree of grasping the most basic points of statistics
mircea_popescu: they can't encrypt, they can barely read and rarely comprehend anything
mircea_popescu: yet they still think themselves journalists. what sense does this make ? a guy thgat can't turn on the stove and regularly cooks moldy chicken isn't a cook
mircea_popescu: why would a bunch of dorks with nary a clue as to the workings of the actual tools of their trade be even for a second taken seriously as "journalists" ?
assbot: Clay Aiken apparent winner of Democratic primary
TheNewDeal: gunna have to test the old bet both ways theory
benkay: agorecki what's your story?
agorecki: benkay: I heard about this channel after mircea saved TrustedBSD, and came here to lurk and see what I could learn
agorecki: I don't think the channel was voice-to-speak only at the time, though
moiety: it's quite a new thing agorecki
moiety: i only just learned that myself, while reading the openbsd wikipage. totally epic of him.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00100212 = 7.1151 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: save one bsd, save them all.
benkay: okay so here's a thing.
benkay: i came up in computers in the 'configuration management' epoch, where everyone i knew and everyone i worked with was using some sort of software to manage the state of machines virtual or real metal in some datacenter somewhere.
benkay: what's the equivalent of chef or whatever for migrating from, say, bsd box to bsd box?
benkay: how do i get all the packages i plan to compile from source on my spankin' new bsd box to my next one?
benkay: take a disk image and start the next machine from the old one?
benkay: !up grahvity kdomanski_
benkay: kakobrekla: why u no multiple arity?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00099757 = 22.6448 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: think you can hold a connection, wolverineks ?
wolverineks: whoops. sorry. low signal out in the woods. ill turn off auto reconnect.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.00709999 = 0.213 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07299699 = 1.168 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00100226 = 5.9133 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.03139998 = 0.4082 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 43 @ 0.02166318 = 0.9315 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4769 @ 0.00100256 = 4.7812 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31252 @ 0.00100466 = 31.3976 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00100494 = 18.7421 BTC [+]
moiety: lol kakobrekla!! thats brilliant :D day made
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00100037 = 13.3549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00100008 = 20.8017 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.02101 = 0.1681 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00100008 = 9.5008 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00100145 = 14.4209 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03139998 = 0.314 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.041 = 0.451 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.138 = 0.276 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5736 @ 0.00099823 = 5.7258 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8393 @ 0.00099714 = 8.369 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00099714 = 12.1651 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00099714 = 12.3645 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00099714 = 14.309 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44905 = 0.8981 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.440505 = 0.881 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03139997 = 0.3768 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11074 @ 0.00099995 = 11.0734 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.00670008 = 0.335 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.05833396 = 0.175 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11583 @ 0.00099761 = 11.5553 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: davout: About the dotcoin thing, it's just a matter of watching how he tosses his word salad
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 300 @ 0.041 = 12.3 BTC [-]
assbot: How a mayors quest to unmask a foul-mouthed Twitter user blew up in his face | Ars Technica
fluffypony: davout: I should've shut my big fat drunk mouth last night
assbot: New Shares on Bitcoin Bourse "TXT"
fluffypony: Shakespeare: can't you register this nick with gribble and then we can rate it?
gribble: Nick 'Shakespeare', with hostmask 'Shakespeare!d57f9cda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.127.156.218', is not identified.
Shakespeare: for some reason, this internet connection doesnt let me use IRC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.455 BTC [+]
fluffypony: you should try the more arcane ports like 8002
fluffypony: afaik all the Freenode servers listen on 8000 / 8001 / 8002
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 53 @ 0.00709 = 0.3758 BTC [+] {2}
Shakespeare: you think i'm some kinda hacker or something?
fluffypony: thought you were waiting for a connecting flight
fluffypony: well at least you're in a normal time zone now
Shakespeare: I purposely bought Lufthansa tickets cuz they are my favorite so far, well the fine print says (United Air)
fluffypony: South African Airways is part of that as well
fluffypony: you get conned into believing you're flying SAA all the way
Shakespeare: now i need to start researching the fucking plane to book flights
fluffypony: but the minute they dump you at an airport there all the connecting flights are shitty United flights
Shakespeare: ironically the seats were more comfortable
assbot: Accounting for the Amazing Company. The Bitcointalk standard. | pankkake
assbot: Jorge Stolfi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00099643 = 2.9893 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00099491 = 6.4669 BTC [-]
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 2 days 9 hours ago
mircea_popescu: so people keep clamoring about how the close should be much earlier than the resolution date.
mircea_popescu: then when the close is a month before resolution date, they bet 28 bitcents, 99% less than the average diff bet.
mircea_popescu: classical socialist mindset. fat close buffer means a lot of risk for people betting early, because if something happens they won't be able to cover/adjust for new odds.
mircea_popescu: two bit webtrepreneur figures tis is GREAT because he's thinking of it happening to other people ONLY
mircea_popescu: when things are changed to accomodate his worldview, then and only then can he see the stuff applying to him. because the libtard has 0 critical thinking ability. unless it's before him, he can't follow a counterfactual.
mircea_popescu: and so... he doesn't want to bet anymore. but now "it's fair", he says, just, no fair he'd want any part of.
mircea_popescu: after which he'll move to mexico or w/e, make that fair too.
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 968 @ 0.00310298 = 3.0037 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00099542 = 17.818 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: i was last to bet eh, oh well
fluffypony: this may be a dumb question, but are your winnings weighted against when you made your bet?
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 2 days 9 hours ago
pankkake: fluffypony: no. and that would be to easy to exploit
pankkake: hm not sure I understood the question
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.041 = 0.615 BTC [-]
fluffypony: pankkake: I meant that the guys that bet early take the biggest risk
fluffypony: the late-comers already have an indicator
fluffypony: so their winnings should be weighted as "valuable"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.0009963 = 20.3245 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: just because someone bets early or a lot doesn't mean they have a point.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I have nfi, I was just asking
mircea_popescu: i know, but jus' sayin'. it's a signal, but whatg's in a signal. whatsapp selling for 20bn is also a signal.
fluffypony: kakobrekla: am I imagining it or is assbot turning @ into / in tweets?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7481 @ 0.00099326 = 7.4306 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well it was quite the ride. i wondere how much of it is due to bitpay's largest ipo ever.
BingoBoingo: BitPay investors hedging their fx risk through BitPay by diversifying into S.MPOE?
BingoBoingo: Or hedging "in case Bitcoin develops the other way"
BingoBoingo: One of the nice things about Bitcoin is that there is so much that simply can't be known.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00099326 = 6.6052 BTC [-]
assbot: Bittylicious Adds Visa and MasterCard Credit Card Support
assbot: Italian factory makes bad mozzarella, 13 arrests
fluffypony: "The probe began after a worker lost some of his fingers because of safety flaws."
Naphex: maybe safety laws required no fingers?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10774 @ 0.00099688 = 10.7404 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.03139997 = 0.6908 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03139997 = 0.942 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.03139998 = 0.8792 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12164 @ 0.0009959 = 12.1141 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22984 @ 0.00099386 = 22.8429 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03139998 = 0.2198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 80 @ 0.041 = 3.28 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00099703 = 15.1549 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.05517004 = 0.5517 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07392853 = 0.6654 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30915 @ 0.00099298 = 30.698 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00099492 = 1.7411 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12874 @ 0.00099647 = 12.8286 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00099289 = 6.7517 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: These people should be shot, basically. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: These people should be shot, basically. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: Maybe, just maybe, assbot might finally catch up to mircea_popescu
gribble: benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <benkay> think you can hold a connection, wolverineks ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-]
assbot: Hong Kong's Stock Exchange Receives Summons for Metal Warehousing Complaint - WSJ.com
assbot: Hong Kong's stock exchange challenged on metal warehousing - Financial News
bounce: search for the headline in google (not, say, ixquick) and you can pass the paywall... for now.
bounce: they're not saying so but apparently the big player(s) are actually shipping metal back'n'forth between their own warehouses to skirt regulations, delay deliveries, and so drive up prices
pankkake: Azelphur: your link is paywalled too, for me at least
Azelphur: oh, nice it un-paywalls if you go through google, these paywall sites suck.
fluffypony: Azelphur: did you visit the link from Google?
fluffypony: WSJ is the same, you visit from Google and it's fine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15245 @ 0.00099738 = 15.2051 BTC [+]
mike_c: benkay: you ever use ansible?
pankkake: since I block referer by default, had no choice
pankkake: I used to have custom funny referers for friends' sites
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6782 @ 0.00099774 = 6.7667 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0070997 = 0.355 BTC [+]
mike_c: ^ investors liked rent's recent update.
mike_c: just a snapshot on where they are at, properties and such. they are claiming NAV of 0.0083 btc per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 24 @ 0.07193522 = 1.7264 BTC [+] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.0981065 = 1.4716 BTC [+] {8}
benkay: mike_c: not that one in particular, but i'm pretty well versed in configuration mgmt at large. why do you ask?
benkay: hey, rent's a great deal in a bear btc market.
mike_c: curious if you had any experience with it. i am considering trying it out.
benkay: are you running bare metal?
mike_c: um, no? virtual servers.
benkay: just write scripts and shoot them in the head when they get uppity.
mike_c: that's what i have done in the past (largely with fabric). thought maybe i'd get fancy.
mike_c: but automation! magic! it's easier until it doesn't work!
benkay: you know what's entirely adequate automation? bash scripts and an api for terminating uppity instances.
benkay: this for the record you cloud haters is why other peoples machines are great.
benkay: idempotence comes for free.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00099808 = 6.9866 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.46321873 BTC to 8`673 shares, 28401 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11290 @ 0.00099808 = 11.2683 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03105611 = 0.3727 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8196 @ 0.00099785 = 8.1784 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02322594 = 0.1161 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: mike_c: if you want to get semi-fancy with less headaches maybe puppet is the way to go?
fluffypony: ansible is awesome, but I found it over-engineered for the relatively simple stuff I need
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20907 @ 0.00099281 = 20.7567 BTC [-]
fluffypony: kinda like how I spent 2 days getting exim4 perfectly setup as an mta for outbound mail when sendmail would be fine
mike_c: well, scripts are fine for semi-fancy. if i'm going to learn something new i'd rather it be something i want to know going forward. which i think would be ansible over chef/puppet.
fluffypony: yeah if you want to pick up a skill ansible is definitely a better option
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11336 @ 0.00099427 = 11.271 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.074 = 0.222 BTC [+]
assbot: Bitcoin needs regulatory framework to change risky image| Reuters
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0739653 = 0.1479 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [-] {2}
FabianB: "The Bitcoin Foundation aims to standardise the currency" <-- are there different bitcoins?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20038 @ 0.00099227 = 19.8831 BTC [-] {2}
bounce: blue, and green, and redlisted, and whatnot. well, if the foundation has its way at least.
fluffypony: FabianB: haven't you heard - Bitcoin 2.0 is coming
FabianB: so they want to anti-standardise
bounce: next you'll need a bitcoin transmission licence to send (or receive) more than 1 bitcoin per day
FabianB: or even carry more than one
fluffypony: I think coloured coins was Bitcoin 2.0 at one point
bounce: hey, they got elected in fair vote! can't be that bad, can they?
fluffypony: maybe African-American coins are the way of the future
rithm: if the foundation wants to do it, it must be bad
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00099134 = 6.7411 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00099083 = 17.3395 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Whats the evidence on using rational argument to change peoples minds? : May 2014 : Contributoria - community funded, collaborative journalism
kakobrekla: fluffypony re twitter, thats what the output from htmldom came to be, i havent bothered to check the details at all :)
fluffypony: I wonder if it's not some weird utf-8 oddity that's causing it
kakobrekla: no clue but is it an issue, its not like @ its going to 'work'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.02353799 = 0.4943 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: not an issue, just makes some of the tweets read weirdly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.074 = 0.518 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7818 @ 0.00099015 = 7.741 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 23 @ 0.041 = 0.943 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14365 @ 0.00099013 = 14.2232 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07397821 = 0.6658 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00099013 = 17.1292 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 48 @ 0.00680008 = 0.3264 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12571 @ 0.00099011 = 12.4467 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00099427 = 12.5278 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03139999 = 0.2826 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.02449366 = 0.3184 BTC [+]
assbot: First! Largest! Bestest! Ever! In The US | When Bitcoin Met Pete
artifexd: This has been running smoothly for a while now so I'll share it here: ##bitbet-rt
☟︎ assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 64 @ 0.03139999 = 2.0096 BTC [+]
artifexd: No. Just bets created and bets placed.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 33 @ 0.041 = 1.353 BTC [-]
artifexd: If kakobrekla creates a feed for comments, I'll add them.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.132 = 0.264 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03139999 = 0.2512 BTC [+]
fluffypony: "thestringpuller's Guide to Losing Voice in #bitcoin-assets - A Compendium"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5007 @ 0.00099011 = 4.9575 BTC [-]
assbot: Billionaires Help Christies to Record $745 Million Sale - Bloomberg
bitcoinpete: warhol's riot fetched $62M, up 23.3% compounded annually since last sold in 1992.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00098986 = 9.7501 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: must be where angellist is based
bitcoinpete: what ohio has to do with anything isn't clear to me either lol
fluffypony: glad there wasn't some important back story I was missing
artifexd: Isn't that were the20year is doing his RENT thing?
bitcoinpete: i think the world is missing this back story
fluffypony: I don't get why the maths is so hard for them
fluffypony: the world's most expensive pizza will always be the 10k BTC pizza
bitcoinpete: either way, we're nearing the end of americans walking on the streets in berlin and telling people what state they're from
fluffypony: because nobody will ever pay more for that in BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]
fluffypony: and as the tweet pointed out, 30k BTC > 20k BTC
fluffypony: the USD exchange rate at the time being rather irrelevant
bitcoinpete: it's like the wright brothers paying 6 airplanes for a pizza, now us wondering how many 787s that is
kakobrekla: a btc in a btc irrelevant of timespace
bitcoinpete: there's only one of calder's poisson volant
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.074 = 0.222 BTC [+]
assbot: Bitcoin Bingo: What Ticker Will the Winklevii Pick for Their ETF? - Bloomberg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4549999 BTC [+]
mike_c: oh, fu facebook. i get it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00098967 = 12.9647 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07499986 = 0.6 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 243 @ 0.00098986 = 0.2405 BTC [+]
assbot: The Brokenness of MaidSafe | When Bitcoin Met Pete
mike_c: what 8 years is he talking about?
bitcoinpete: the 8 years maidsafe spent "working" and "pitching vcs"
bitcoinpete: being unsuccessful in accomplishing anything productive in that time
mike_c: you should tell him it's a really fucking stupid name too.
pankkake: is there an explanation for the name? it sounds like something against the evil maid attack, but isn't
bitcoinpete: maybe it has something to do with rosie, the jetsons' maid
mike_c: Massive Array of Internet Disks Something something something
danielpbarron: your data is "made safe" by their service (that's what I assumed it meant)
assbot: The Jetsons 1963 - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20266 @ 0.00099422 = 20.1489 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: "It's an acronym; "Massive Array of Internet Disks, Secure Access For Everyone"."
kakobrekla: but if you gotta pay for it, just buy a server ?
kakobrekla: not that im saying stuff you wouldnt pay for is worth saving
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.02350366 = 0.3526 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.02348994 = 0.6577 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.03139999 = 0.3454 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 31 @ 0.03139999 = 0.9734 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Let's Face Facts: Mobile Wallets Are Doomed – ReadWrite
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4399001 BTC [-]
assbot: BitBet - Clay Aiken to win in NC :: 0 B (50%) on Yes, 0 B (50%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 100`000 (100`000 to 1)
mike_c: quick, get the best weight!
kakobrekla: yeah i was just typing it in the other chan only to get muted :)
bounce: oooh seekrit channels where kako gets muted
mike_c: kako got muted in all the channels, that's why he made his own :)
mike_c: next is his own forums :D
artifexd: I should probably change the topic to point people to here if they want to discuss it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 223 @ 0.0042203 = 0.9411 BTC [-] {5}
gribble: dexX7 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 43 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <dexX7> okay, not this hehe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.04175 = 0.835 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: good afternoon gentlemangs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03139999 = 0.628 BTC [+]
artifexd: Topic changed. Anybody that wants to offer suggestions/criticisms/whatever and can't talk in here should be smart enough to figure out who runs the bot.
mike_c: you should flip that. anyone can post, but posting gets you banned, then 31 btc to get unbanned. you'll be rich.
artifexd: Interesting idea. Put the warning in the topic. Ban them with a message: Send 0.001 BTC to XXX to get unbanned. Collect riches.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8849 @ 0.00100003 = 8.8493 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0071 = 0.355 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00100033 = 1.8006 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07399 = 0.222 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0739809 = 0.8138 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: fluffypony: fucking build a machine to take money from the poor
gribble: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message (1 more message)
gribble: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message (1 more message)
gribble: bitcoinpete was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <bitcoinpete> bbl
kakobrekla: moiety what happened to dat wiki page?
fluffypony: thestringpuller didn't they cancel that inflation thing
assbot: Dogecoin to allow annual inflation of 5 billion coins each year, forever | Ars Technica
fluffypony: “Thanks for killing the profitability of the currency. Now it's going to be worthless in a couple of years and never reach the value of Bitcoin or even anywhere close,” wrote MadCold on Github.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00100069 = 2.2015 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [-]
artifexd: I see that. I have a plan. I will code it up tonight.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0749999 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.434 = 1.736 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00422006 = 0.3587 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03139999 = 0.942 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00100069 = 8.3057 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;later tell bitcoinpete how come my gravatar isn't working? what did I mess up?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0905 = 0.181 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+]
benkay: fluffypony> mike_c: if you want to get semi-fancy with less headaches maybe puppet is the way to go? // uuhauahauauhauhuahuahunooooooooooo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+]
fluffypony: thestringpuller: he was quoting me, he's too cool for puppet:)
mircea_popescu: so adding to the delights of weird shit happening to me, today... i got flooded.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: like water flooded or IRC flooded?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.041 = 0.492 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: artifexd you might take out 'New' out of the strings, since the thing is never 'old'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.075 = 0.825 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.07462678 = 3.0597 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.07397821 = 2.9591 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell thickasthieves who the fuck waits for hotel checkins, srsly.
mircea_popescu: bounce my understanding is that various govts/the bureaucratic interest are pushing to block or if not possible tightly control all shipments of precious metals among any independent entities, traders or not.
mircea_popescu: this under the guise of the usual methods, falsely accusing these of "breaking the law", or fail that, "being racist"
mircea_popescu: this twit has opinions on what bitcoin needs and its image.
mircea_popescu: dude, seriously, why is every two bit stripper claiming to be working "in the press" ?
kakobrekla: <[]bot> New bet placed: 26 BTC for no on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment (
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assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1007.93 B (93%) on Yes, 77.59 B (7%) on No | closing in 9 months 6 days | weight: 82`298 (100`000 to 1)
assbot: Sorry America, the Ukraine isn’t all about you | PandoDaily
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00100216 = 18.9408 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Skip college, forfeit $800,000: Fed study| Reuters
mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu @Mircea_Popescu · now @crampell That lifetime started in 1960 and ended in 2005. The next lifetime will be quite distinct. Fight the present, not the previous war
assbot: Linux gets fix for code-execution flaw that was undetected since 2009 | Ars Technica
mircea_popescu: bounce: next you'll need a bitcoin transmission licence to send (or receive) more than 1 bitcoin per day << in their own little koi pond where bitpay is the largest best first company and us side vcs matter, they can do whatever the hell they want, up to and including a plastic version of bitcoin to go with the plastic version of a steak.
mircea_popescu: you didn't expect the dead to actually embrace their death, did you ? ever sent a teenager upstairs to clean up their room ?
mircea_popescu: of fucking course they'll be back on the gamestation half hour later swearing up and down that they have, and the disorder apparent is just their implementaiton of order.
benkay: can't wait to deploy my war face against that
mircea_popescu: benkay gotta talk to a woman about that, i can't help you :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00100305 = 0.6018 BTC [+]
assbot: First! Largest! Bestest! Ever! In The US | When Bitcoin Met Pete
mircea_popescu: mind adding it in here with a special rule to only dump bets > 1btc ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I don't get the Ohio thing << ohio is the shithole state. i used it as a metaphorical derogatory, to help the guy understand that his vc circuit is a bit player in bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Bitcoin Bingo: What Ticker Will the Winklevii Pick for Their ETF? - Bloomberg << "we forgot to mention that mp said this in his mpoe reports for february. it just occurred to us, just like that, out of the depths of our ramen fed brainz."
mircea_popescu: god i hated the jetsons. that and scooby doo, worst fucking cartoons in the history of cartoons.
assbot: BitBet - Clay Aiken to win in NC :: 0.04 B (40%) on Yes, 0.06 B (60%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`917 (100`000 to 1)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: any posting a banable offense << i thought this forum already existed ? i haven't posted in it since 2011
assbot: Ubuntu Security Notices | Linux FEUP
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00099724 = 8.1774 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: Ilja van Sprundel discovered that libXfont incorrectly handled font
mircea_popescu: metadata file parsing. A local attacker could use this issue to cause
mircea_popescu: libXfont to crash, or possibly execute arbitrary code in order to gain
assbot: A10-OLinuXino-LIME - Open Source Hardware Board
mircea_popescu: Or that more attractive people are judged as more trustworthy, or they arguments they give as more intelligent. << this is actually not that bad a bias.
punkman: mircea_popescu: how is it a good bias?
fluffypony: I know that, but lately I've been reading the AN0 overview over and over again to be able to use it, and you said that in 2014 it would become compulsory for all assets on mpex?
mircea_popescu: punkman beauty is simply a sign of good quality genetics. all things equal, beautiful people are more likely to be intelligent than ugly people.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony yeah. except mpoe is incorporated as a zero asset corp, and bitbet may be migrated, once i have some time to dick with that.
mircea_popescu: so far it's ambiguously either of the two, and a bunch of other stuff needs reviewing about it
fluffypony: I like the format, definitely more elegant than the way MPOE reports atm, for instance
fluffypony: the subject of "seats" came up on -otc today
mircea_popescu: one of the issues with bitbet is how exactly the bets will be treated
fluffypony: and holy shit were those seats expesnive
fluffypony: even now that they've gone to a yearly "license" model
mike_c: hah. 40k a year is expensive? :)
fluffypony: mike_c: not the post-2005 model, the fixed seats model
mircea_popescu: hardly worth having one (and the people that had them back in the day are pissed at nyse for it)
mircea_popescu: the collapse of the us is made of little pukes like that.
fluffypony: mike_c: they had 1366 seats total, fixed and you couldn't get more
mike_c: 40k is like 25% of the cost of 1 engineer
mircea_popescu: lose a bunch of smart traders in the wtc, piss off everyone with a populist nyse franchise,
fluffypony: "The most expensive inflation-adjusted seat was sold in 1929 for $625,000, which, today, would be over six million dollars. In recent times, seats have sold for as high as $4 million in the late 1990s and as low as $1 million in 2001."
BCB: mircea_popescu, when did you get banned from BCT
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's quite funny - the Twitter exchange earlier led me to stumbling across MPEX's AngelList profile around the same time as the conversation in -otc
mircea_popescu: generally speaking, any move you take to make anything more accessible, makes it shittier. in general, by a larger % than the gain of accessibility.
fluffypony: and on AngelList it says "The NYSE of Bitcoin" or something
mircea_popescu: fluffypony nobody can say they didn't have a fair chance. they blew it, tho.
fluffypony: vs. BitcoinBourse that say they want to be "the Wall Street of Bitcoin"
fluffypony: clearly misunderstanding wtf Wall Street is
mircea_popescu: and i'll delight in punishing all the vcs with it in the years to come. "here. this was your job. this was your job that you didn't do. because you suck. because you're inept. because you can't do your job. like children. look how stupid you were. you still are."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: yeah well, they're limited by what they see on cereal cartons.
fluffypony: BCB: hanbot is banned, mircea_popescu isn't
assbot: Maged permabanned MPOE-PR because she swore shock | Bitcointa.lk
BCB: fluffypony, does she have a chaturbate account
mike_c: not to defend the vc's. but currently the best VC's are priced out of bitcoin companies. what startup are they going to put serious money into? not many choices.
fluffypony: mike_c: obviously Bitpay because biggest and best and largest
mike_c: and even that wasn't that big
assbot: The future of Bitcoin regulation pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: why didn't they read trilema april 2013 and execute THAT WEEK ?
mircea_popescu: what is this shit, i give orders and they disobey ? because why ?
mircea_popescu: of fucking course you'll be priced out of what trilema tells you to do in april 2013 if you wait till april 2014. if you weren't priced out that'd mean trilema sucks.
mircea_popescu: "This is possibly the last chance to take those piles of fundamentally worthless US dollars and use them for something with any sort of future value.", the man said.
mike_c: hehe. well, when things heat up another order of magnitude they will start writing checks like it's going out of style. even if it is too late.
fluffypony: what is humorous are the people bitching about 30 BTC per seat when that was $600
fluffypony: yeah, long before my time unfortunately
fluffypony: iz ok, I still have jurov to hook me up
mike_c: ;;calc (30 * [ticker --last])
mike_c: ^ way less then 40k a year
mircea_popescu: mike_c was as high as nyse, practically. back when btc went over 1200
fluffypony: mike_c: and really not a bad price if you're institutional
fluffypony: even if you're just toe-dipping into BTC
mike_c: i don't think it's ever been a bad price. best time to buy a mpex seat is today.
assbot: Bitcointalk, always retarded | pankkake
fluffypony: I think it's out of my league, not entirely from a price perspective but more from a "what would I do with it" perspective
mircea_popescu: kinda funny for someone with 0 days experience in sales/product.
fluffypony: I'm too casual an investor to make it work for me
mircea_popescu: fluffypony if you think about it, nyse has 1.5k seats or so, and perhaps 150mn diff people ever traded on it.
fluffypony: mod6: I can do that through coinbr tho
mircea_popescu: but yes, unless your portofolio is > 1k btc, you don't really need a seat imo.
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 164.65235181 BTC; +0.28620048 BTC (+0.1741%) since last check 1d 23h 28m 22s ago.
fluffypony: maybe possibly if I stumbled into the knowledge / time / inclination to run a brokerage it would be worthwhile
fluffypony: but otherwise my portfolio is too small fry to justify it
fluffypony: mod6: oh wait - did you mean buy the seat and hold it, not buy the seat and then buy shares and hold them?
mod6: naw, just the latter.
jurov: someone figured out how to trade gpg privkeys?
mod6: forgot about coinbr. lol, sorry jurov :)
mircea_popescu: pankkake you seriously claim to have seen most porn in existence ?!
mircea_popescu: how is that even possible, i'd guess even excluding cams and amateur shit, there's well over 1mn hours floating around.
jurov: he's watching it 10x faster on 10 monitors
mircea_popescu: i mean he could say he's seen most GIRLS that ever shot more than a few tests
mircea_popescu: chick that's not been allowed to wear pants for 5 years now or something, tried on one of my pairs for fun. she looked incredibly hot in them.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: you need someone with a proper gaydar to tell you
mircea_popescu: he's got every other gadget in his 400 sq feet of "living" space
BCB: That beard is very gay.
gribble: You have not yet rated user bcb
BCB: mircea_popescu, not pirateat40
BCB: I did. Before paypal shot down all my accounts.
BCB: I'm not a Money Transmitter in the US
mircea_popescu: well so how would you like a managerial position in mpif ?
mircea_popescu: We think our actions express our decisions. But in nearly all of our life, willing decides nothing.
mircea_popescu: "We cannot wake up or fall asleep, remember or forget our dreams, summon or banish our thoughts, by deciding to do so.
BCB: You sound like Steve Jobs
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