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mircea_popescu: зможное наличие дубликатов закрытого ключа. ", they produced that on their own power ? that's like... 1000% more than what the esl world managed.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-02 12:43 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://www.opennet.ru/opennews/art.shtml?num=44356 << moar lulz
ben_vulpes: it is pretty neat like that!
mircea_popescu: but the good news is that lobbesbot permits you to do a bond auction a la carte.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 00:25 mircea_popescu: if i were you folk i would very seriously be looking at geting refinanced, taking ~300 rockchips there and filling a dozen us with them.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 03:06 mircea_popescu: besides, you can afford it, shockingly enough. 300 x 100 is what, 3.x btc. not the end of the world. if he actually gets it through the blocade you have an item arguably worth twice that.
mircea_popescu: anyway, be the details as they may : the original http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1809921 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1809793 discussion was looking at a trip 3x the size ; downsizing it (which seems unavoidably necessary for OP considerations) has the tucked in advantage that you don't specifically need to refinance, if you don't want to. so prolly should discuss in board what discounts do you expect to see pre and ☝︎☝︎
ben_vulpes: hm yeah how did i have this thing eat random text
mircea_popescu: i guess this'll take some more tinkering.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no, there are also the rockchips themselves. full breakdown http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/rockchip.lisp
ben_vulpes: safe-online-rsabox production plant buildout and consolidate the physical beachhead in .uy. so mod6 asciilifeform is the board inclined to raise more capital to build this out and attend to morale in sudamerica?
ben_vulpes: i crunched some numbers, and i think it's going to cost around 3 btc to put the production rockchip plant together and get it down south, all based on 4 2U's with 24 rockchippen each, transpo of ~2.5kusd and per-chassis fab costs of ~800usd. i think with the outrageous success of the rockchip pilot plant pizarro's in a *great* spot to refinance per mircea_popescu's suggestion, to provide for the production
BingoBoingo: <fromdeedbot> I mean globally << What part of moving from Southern Illinois to Uruguay on WoT fuel isn't global? Gotta circumnavigate or something?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in random lulz, "Copy right laws are in tact and if you violate those rules then you will be prosecuted."
mircea_popescu: why did you think the usg bitcoin-ersatz is a good thing ?
fromdeedbot: What do you guys have against Ethereum (if anything, maybe i am not rembering the logs correctly)
mircea_popescu: exactly as stated : that some of the usable bipedal mammals will get a serial id ; the unusable will get nothing. there's no birthright to the lordship.
fromdeedbot: what was the purpose of that demonstration?
fromdeedbot: I saw that but was distracted while reading
mircea_popescu: everyone gets a tit string ; not everyone gets to be in the wot.
fromdeedbot: if www addresses have tumbleweeds rolling by because most businesses have moved to a new more secure web
fromdeedbot: if a new internet is built and a pgp key is mandatory, and everyone is on the new internet..
fromdeedbot: I am of the belief that things will move this direction naturally
fromdeedbot: it’s roughly along the same lines, but not the samee
mircea_popescu: if by globally you mean "we throw darts at a earth globe", then yes, you're that late. if by globally you mean "every last idiot on two legs" you're way the fuck early, in the sense that such miracle's never gonna happen.
fromdeedbot: or am i that late
mircea_popescu: what's that mean ?
mircea_popescu: it long ago has ; the republic built its uruguay datacenter out of what, you expect ? wot.
fromdeedbot: like to get a loan or a lease on a place to live
fromdeedbot: I thinlk that this type of system could change the way we define “percieved value” and even credit
mircea_popescu: so i take it you read http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ ?
fromdeedbot: and are they solid
fromdeedbot: and compared to who backs you up… and who they are, and how old is their nick
fromdeedbot: so that peoples online identity has a “fingerprint"
fromdeedbot: Requirment of a pgp key to become a part of a new web built on trust and accountability
mircea_popescu: fromdeedbot, which thing is that ?
mircea_popescu: reminds me of this chick on fetlife, "So you don't want to have a smart discuss, you're here for what ? What do you research here ? Because I'm agree with your description." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: https://gitter.im/ << gotta archive this lulzgem. "Where communities thrive Gitter is a chat and networking platform that helps to manage, grow and connect communities through messaging, content and discovery."
fromdeedbot: that is exactly I why I read them… you guys have came up with a really cool thing
fromdeedbot: I have to admit I have not read them in full, and if that is a pre req, I will.
mircea_popescu: it's more of a half year sort of thing, reading logs.
fromdeedbot: and the deedbot got crossed up in my googling
fromdeedbot: well google landed me on your logs when I was researching the whole wiki leeks thing and how it related to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: yes, that's how "we know it's you".
fromdeedbot: So reg a new key with the new nick
fromdeedbot: so you know it’s me, if that matters
fromdeedbot: ha! I kinda like it low key, but I’m not “from deedbot” in the way people might think… this is the only channel that I use tghis Nick
mircea_popescu: i guess you'll have to do a bunch of log reading.
fromdeedbot: its a new way to set in stone, amongst many oother imagined, and not imagined yet things
fromdeedbot: and how escrows, and othjer such related things could be revolutionized
mircea_popescu: how old are you then ?
fromdeedbot: buliding smart contrct’ish programs would be a short term goal
fromdeedbot: hah, that’s good advice. noted…. As far as what to express specifically, I’m not sure exactly yet, but this has always interested me and I have waited long enpough
mircea_popescu: anything speciffic you're trying to express ?
mircea_popescu: hey, i don't mind. but understand that avoiding bad habits is a lifelong uncompletable task, there's no magic pill that'll keep you safe from such. certainly contemplation from outside isn't much of one.
mircea_popescu: well, this overanxious approach is a bad habit all of itself.
fromdeedbot: It interests me more and more every day… but it is overwhelming where to begin and I dont want to start bad habits
fromdeedbot: because I have been into computers for a long time and I feel like I could contribute productive elements to the community if i knew how to exoress my ideas in the right languge
fromdeedbot: i would like to start as low level as i can without overdoing it
mircea_popescu: of course, the more cogent question is, ~why~ do you want to learn to code/program
fromdeedbot: I want to learn to code/program. I am looking for sound advice on what to learn first. php? oop? python? I have looked all over the web and it seems everyone has a different opinion. any advice would be appredciated
mircea_popescu: and this is also why ~nobody of any consequence reads any of them. i'd rather read engelbert humperdinck's introduction to greek philosophy. at least he sings, which, unrelated as it may be, IS WAY THE FUCK MORE THAN ANY OF THESE IDLE FUCKTARDS EVER DID. or will ever do.
mircea_popescu: that's your "experts" zx2c4, from matthew retardenfield all the way down the mongoloid chain.
mircea_popescu: ls to discuss the matter, including spurious naming conventions and all the rest of the monkey dance, EXCEPT in terms of "leaking padding schemes are retarded, DO NOT DO THAT."
mircea_popescu: since we're discussing "retards are retarded", here's a fine example : https://archive.is/RbD9o ; it consists of a) let's leak through the inept choice of "pad by the value of padding, so if you need 5 bytes of padding pad with 5 bytes each = 5" (and then pretend this is not to be reviewed "because popular" and also do every other elbow trick in the book to stick it past) followed unneringly by... b) construct elaborate ritua
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mircea_popescu: a better example of what exactly it means to be a monkey, with these inane expectations of wysiwyg-ism and gui-ism and rtfm-is-racist and nobody-will-ever-expect-you-to-think-if-they-truly-love-you and on AND ON...
a111: Logged on 2018-05-12 02:00 mircea_popescu: turn a tv on if you can find one, and tune it to mtv, which still exist. compare/contrast to 1988 mtv, it'll illustrate the matter perfectly.
lobbes: fig. 1: the mtv of today gave the d00d depicted in this ballas piece his own tv show >> https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/10/catfish.html << http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-12#1812646 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 23:19 asciilifeform: kurchatov being a great demo case; he had the authority to behead. laboratory -- worked. ( and not merely via 'copy leaked design', the ~indigenous~ nuke was crafted in parallel with the copied 'rds-1' , and subsequently went to production )
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 19:34 mircea_popescu: so : the faberge egg, the original, was made in 1885 ; but it was the continuation and in a sense the crowing of a current of thought (ie, culture) and proper civilisation that reached back over a centry.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, only one is livable, hence the "where are the rembrandts ?" and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713764 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812598 and on and on. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: the world will be either authoritarian or totalitarian ; and only one of those is livable (though to people living through its early dissolution phases, it seems altogether as if things are improving -- much like the case may be that preteen orphans may subjectively perceive their first few hours with their new status actually liberating. then dinner time comes, and wel... the unbearable sadness of solitude sneaks in. somehow
hanbot: i never thought about it that way. though it seems evident once stated.
mircea_popescu: but it didn't in fact work. so where do "rock'n'rollers" go when it's disco time ? same place zappa went, neh, to the bottle of bitters.
mircea_popescu: and hence the 1990s, and the "information superhighway" bs. they were going to, poor darlings, subvert the morloch, with a very naive, all-inclusive, republic v0.1, built out of "net neutrality" and wikipedia. except of course for the part where it didn't work, it was a splendid plan.
mircea_popescu: and that's what ultimately killed "music" (as particularly understood in the 1950-1980 interval) for schelling point-ness : the realisation that the only possible conclusion is cobain's ; and hence all the emo / goth / etc bs, tiptoeing around old man charon's boat.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 12:27 mircea_popescu: "If you are white, no positive, active role is left to you. Either you accommodate yourself to the unreasonable, or you play out your life in some futile back alley. You are doomed to this by the disgraceful history of your kind. Maybe it's fair, maybe it's not, but it is the way things are." << from another schmuck with a nobel prize.
mircea_popescu: very much the problem of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1500956 ; though not for the causes he ascribes, nor with the divisions implicit etc. there's no future for man in the brave new world exactly in the sense and exactly for the reasons there was no future for man in soviet russia 8th decade. white, black, turqouise, russian, turkmen, georgian, it dun matter -- the only possible move for they confronted with totalitaria ☝︎
danielpbarron: hanbot, i didn't start with the official v wp-wp. i had a very old original .tar.gz
mircea_popescu: it didn't become obvious "there's nothing there". what became obvious was the curt cobain problem : that the only ~possible~ move remaining for the "man alone" is suicide.
hanbot: mircea_popescu, so while people thought they can bring down the berlin wall they tuned into mtv, and once it became obvious there's nothing there they tuned out?
mircea_popescu: ll be a condensate of hot topic and assorted politrucking, but it will be there, as a matter of course.
mircea_popescu: and meaning is still predicated on a structure of authority, and that structure WILL always be present ; the pretense to its absence is just that, a conceit. exactly like socrates' "everyone has a philosophy", if you "have no authority" backing your structure of meaning, you simply have the dumbest one, like the http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#selection-711.0-711.610 idiots. it'
mircea_popescu: the fact of the matter is people will express their better nature if there's a space where they can do it ~meaningfully~.
mircea_popescu: hanbot, i suppose the answer would be asciilifeform 's "bottle". consider this place -- there's people who come and read the logs. every day, in the morning or in the evening or whatever. there's people who write code, there's people who do all kinds of stuff. where were they BEFORE ? they did physically exist, yes, you can't say "nowhere". so then ?
danielpbarron: i've made so many modifications to mp-wp it's like dpb-wp now
danielpbarron: i should say, the linked item is only comments.php ; if you can find the other file i'll send that one too, i don't recall which one it was
lobbesbot: hanbot: Sent 6 hours and 21 minutes ago: <danielpbarron> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/4x7iw/?raw=true << i also had to make changes in some other file. there's one that makes the form and another that receives the POST data
hanbot: mircea_popescu, so where did the people go?
mircea_popescu: remember 1988 mtv ? peak of live concerts, 120 Minutes was just getting started... whole different story. heck, people who weren't complete mouthbreathers even owned tv sets back then.
mircea_popescu: turn a tv on if you can find one, and tune it to mtv, which still exist. compare/contrast to 1988 mtv, it'll illustrate the matter perfectly. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: 2018 web is ~= 1988 disco or 1968 "rock&roll". there's no beatles, there's no elvis, there's just you know, "rock and roller Little Richard performing in 2007" ie wikipedia. there's fucking F!TV. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes, slashdot was once the flagship of a mighty youth movement. so was woodstock, at one time. slashdot failed on its own power and found out what it's worth these days for a fucking reason -- the party moved, and it moved years ago.
mircea_popescu: but seriously now, so there's 10k, maybe 50k inept kids in this vertical. do you realise that's less than the average vampire stories franchise gets ? and do you understand they are EXACTLY as useful / capable / potent / whatever objective measure of capacity to alter reality ?
mircea_popescu: in short, the diminutively tiny list of people who, to quote one among them, "I took evening classes from the institute via phone. (I half-listened while clicking through lolcat photos.)"... what difference can they possibly make, to anyone ?
mircea_popescu: and as far as "search traffic" is concerned, 99.x% of it is http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/cockworship-5.gif and so following.
mircea_popescu: ie, it makes exactly 0 difference to its might whether the web even exists tomorrow or not. but even in this very constrained field, btcbase is a larger source than twitter, or facebook, or ycombinator, or you name it (and yes, any and all of the pantsuit platforms are vying for relevancy in my referral log, month after month after month, they just don't get to actually raise to importance on the merits of their own inconsequ
mircea_popescu: in practical terms : trilema traffic is 97.5% direct, 1.7% from search engines and 0.5% from website links.
mircea_popescu: observation that the ~ONLY~ reason the empire of stupid puts forth that pretense has nothing to do with them and everything to do with the few remaining intelligent people that even speak the language / bother to tune in (a fine example being the recent "triggering" nonsense re the abort() manual : the pretense the neets matter is SO THAT RMS BELIEVES, not so that anything to do with the neets themselves ; yet somehow this te