asciilifeform: i.e. the experimenters from the receptionists.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rms naively believed (but afaik -- genuinely believed) that one can separate the cutlets from the flies.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was pre-gnu rms, as far as is known -- apolitical
asciilifeform: ( iirc it was because he went 'let us have our king from among our ~own~ number, why this imported viking lord ' )
asciilifeform: iirc rms really hated noftsker, for some reason
asciilifeform: most of the heavy lifting was done by a dozen or so people, however. (david moon, richard greenblatt, tom knight, buncha smaller ones )☟︎
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu already postulated a conclusion in his head, and doesn't actually give half a fuck about facts, i will not bother with this thread.
asciilifeform: again it wasn't 'mit', it was 'mit's ai lab', wholly - at the time - unique assemblage.
asciilifeform: most of the hours were worked unpaid, by slaves.
asciilifeform: in fact the piss ui from this thread, clim, franz lisp, whole shebang of barbarian yurts decorated with smashed roman mosaic, were results of later attempt to 'repeat in garage' regardless
asciilifeform: (work on multi$million handmade machines, also, not on commodity iron)
asciilifeform: thing was several thou. man-years of gnarly work, it was not repeatable in a garage.
asciilifeform: describe the hypothetical 'not bothering'
asciilifeform: (strangely, even though ti was a megacorp already at the time, their offering was the least memorable)
asciilifeform: most of the subj of thread is post-rms.
asciilifeform: the other idiocies follow from 'we can make roman aqueduct in empty field, and with 0 book-larnin', and it will be Just As Good'.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-09#1640945 << gnu's confinement ( from poverty ) to 'commodity' (i.e. unix) hardware was a forced 'exile from eden' and the derp response is to postulate 'we're JUST AS GOOD, US TOO!1111' etc.☝︎
asciilifeform: 'go fucking wash the whitegrey off yerself omfg'
asciilifeform: it is what intel's rdrand, via'd chips, etc use. tightly married to the vagaries of the fab process, and very difficult to tie to a specific physical effect
asciilifeform: i published an sks eater here a few yrs ago, search logs
asciilifeform: 'write your own phuctor' is not an insult, but a homework
asciilifeform: i like him just fine, hence attempt to educate.
asciilifeform: and that folks who want to 'embrace and extend' phuctor are on their own.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that 'i'ma write a phuctor but for EVERY!! type of key' is a n00b mistake
asciilifeform: get the published data, verify it, write yet own, learn something!
asciilifeform: and no i am not interested in giving it away as an ornamental flower on some low-effort pile of ?. there is a reason the source is private.
asciilifeform: but phuctor is for finding weak ~genuine~ crypto: offline rsa with dud moduli
asciilifeform: also, to answer earlier q: there are already very effective pills against ssl: timing attack, nonce reuse for dsa (you can find existing code)
asciilifeform: 3) they can serve up whatever as 'your' pubk to others
asciilifeform: BenBE: 1) they want your privkey 2) they purport to accept 'private' msgs to you, on their www
asciilifeform: (rss overran faster than deedbot ate)
asciilifeform: i quite like the high-contrast pure b&w thing.
asciilifeform: the bolix screenshits, interestingly, i do not find ugly
asciilifeform: 'Buying a cup of coffee is not a micro transaction' 'SegWit and LN and you can buy coffee again. That simple. You are choosing power and politics over coffee.' << lol
asciilifeform: the glossy www, for instance, is new -- domain bought on apr. 1 of '17
asciilifeform: Framedragger: tbh i don't actually give enough of a shit to try to cut apart the ball of yarn in shitlang -- what part stolen, when, from which logs ( our discussion of block/tx storage has been running for ages )
asciilifeform: so far i see a shitoshi block format parser
asciilifeform: what part of the linked item verifiably existed in aug '16 ?
