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swiftgeek: asciilifeform: also decap the damn chip
asciilifeform: swiftgeek: even simple xray would give you basic info, such as the number of balls in the bga, and possibly the routes of the test pads (it ain't a very crowded pcb)
swiftgeek: asciilifeform: what we need is to tear down board layer by layer
|\n: even if something is not clear - hardware is full of shit, supplying any trust towards vendors is as stupid as saying that someone might now have some private keys from whatever, being it an IT or automotive industry (pick any), i believe that is why some papers on standards that might shed light on ways of how proprietary things (that belong to owners) work ☟︎
swiftgeek: that board itself needs to be reversed (PCB)
swiftgeek: also if you somehow damage C201PA irrecoverably please don't trash them
asciilifeform: you will get a (very limited, pretty much all you can do is to read version strings and gpio voltages) command prompt
asciilifeform: swiftgeek: if you want to talk to the cr50 in your unit, all you need is the simple cable in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2415 article
swiftgeek: oh now i see that violeet thing
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 15:35 asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/h1.jpg << observe, cr50 has buncha test pads. i bet half a dozen of these, are used for factory fillup.
asciilifeform: swiftgeek: slightly better photo from today, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822393 ☝︎
|\n: good shout, sure i got my miserable excuses, since i'm not media person, i constantly attempt to tell about such things to people who show interest, but the scales are as miserable as my excuses hah
asciilifeform: the english people are clinically retarded. let's try the civilized world, how about.
asciilifeform: |\n: how about you go and fix this
asciilifeform: |\n: i noticed today that there is 0 discussion of cr50/h1 in ru net
|\n: so i doubt theres anything remarkable i could tell about myself heh
|\n: apart from things unspeakable on freenode i love to bring up tor relays and i got a job as an admin of shitty place ☟︎
trinque: cool, there are several russian speakers present
|\n: trinque, i'm just a dude that sometimes hears of phuctor and things that include links to the blog, i like what i see, cool pals discuss it, i'd like to track more of it, whatever it is
asciilifeform: |\n: as trinque points out -- you will get much more enthusiastic audience if you introduce yourself, and register a key, establish as person
trinque: |\n: nah you don't get off that easy. you're from .ru ?
|\n: well it was fast i admit, now i'd better shut up because it brings too much crap to logs, got my answers, thanks
trinque: one might, say, introduce himself, like even my cat does when he walks into the room ☟︎
asciilifeform: |\n: recommend to read the logs, and make use of the search
|\n: aha, cool! thanks asciilifeform
asciilifeform: |\n: ideally, you go and register gpg key with deedbot. then , let's say i rate you, and then you can speak whenever you have something to say.
|\n: just to know if it is even possible
|\n: what is the normal channel "flow", meaning how would i even ask a question if i got one
trinque: this assuming for the moment that such things aren't immediate and reliable signs the speaker's an idiot
trinque: how can you expect someone to care about "rude tbh" if you pride yourself on being unrecognizable
apt-get: I'm more interested in that kind of persona rather than adopting an identity meant to be recognized
apt-get: the reason I keep using this nick is because it's quite handy to have personal info drowned out in a sea of noise when someone tries to look it up ☟︎
asciilifeform: in re 'rude', the starting point is http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536618 ☝︎
apt-get: I've been interested in learning it for quite some time though
asciilifeform: well if you ~want~ to be known as apt-get...
apt-get: rude tbh, I've been using this one online for quite some time ☟︎
asciilifeform: and then get yerself a proper nick, and register gpg key with deedbot , and become a person
asciilifeform: apt-get: use the search box to find subjects that interest you
apt-get: I've been doing that a bit yesterday
asciilifeform: beats the shit out of plain lurking
asciilifeform: apt-get: i recommend to read the logs
apt-get: just here to lurk in general
asciilifeform: what brings you to #trilema , apt-get ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can ask. Is the PCB already in Uruguay?
mircea_popescu off to the dungeosn. bbl!
asciilifeform: interestingly, a major puzzler was 'how to rng'. most folx used some trigonometric crapola; it ~worked..
asciilifeform: prolly there was a spicier ver. with bullocks, whole orchestra.
mircea_popescu: not where i lived, either. but in the shitplain of southern romania ? very fucking needed.
asciilifeform: not whole globe needs ac, tho
asciilifeform: aha! them
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i recall it too. i was fucking there! the motorola "cell phones" you could maim someone with, and the inductor computers, and so on.
asciilifeform: thing went in the boot , display on long cable , hanging somewhere near gearshift
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of barry fitzgerald, "let a good piece of machinery earn its fuel"
asciilifeform: i recall when it was fashionable to make 'car comp'
mircea_popescu: car's got what 3 ? 400 HP under the hood ? let it work.
asciilifeform: lol i recall that thing, it was, what, 3kg ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-31 13:56 mp_en_viaje: in other "thanks goodness computer means programmable machine", i have here this hp elitebook. it has the backlight permanently welded to "retina cancer". the "function" key bs works for everything else EXCEPT setting the brightness, fn-f9 does 0.
mircea_popescu: but eg why should i throw out http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-31#1778739 ? even if it's used once in a month, you fixed it for me, it's going in the tmsr museum ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( often there'll be half a kg of dirt in the ductwork, but thing will still work, after a fashion )
asciilifeform: why shouldn't they work.
mircea_popescu: no, they all work.
asciilifeform: of course orc owns pile of laptops. orc will never throw anything away.
asciilifeform realizes that he doesn't actually know anybody in meatspace, even elderly relatives, who does not own a desktop of ~some~ form
asciilifeform: aa then makes sense
mircea_popescu: why should this have ever changed.
asciilifeform: qualifier, then?
mircea_popescu: it's how it worked in the 90s, right, you went to a new kid's house, had no computer could not be friends, evidently underclass only good to shine your shoes.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i'm starting to think i'll simply add a "owns desktop" disqualifier to the list.
asciilifeform: ye olde mk61 is moar of computer. even tho poor orcistan never even invented soldermask, pcb was bare, like if i made it here in my kitchen.
mircea_popescu: bitch... a phone is a computer in the sense your slit's a cock.
mircea_popescu: none of the girls own a desktop, you realize this ?
asciilifeform: 'killer micro' was colonized by microshit, and almost immediately began the march towards death, 'how do we keep plebes from copying gamez', culminating in today's boxen.
mircea_popescu: much like the killer micro was forgotten almost immediately once the handheld tivos were carted in qty.
asciilifeform: the calculators, bk0010 ( tiny little pdp clone ! ), etc. is a sunken atlantis. it was all forgotten almost immediately when imported pc was carted in in qty
mircea_popescu: whole consumerist thing only really started in earnest after the soviets went away.
asciilifeform: complete with reference oscillograms. if yours dies (and not infrequently, it would) you were expected to repair.
asciilifeform: all these calculators came with full schems btw
mircea_popescu: the new soviets, however, are expected to hold it in hand -- the machine's all chinesium.
asciilifeform: compared to life with this orc box, mircea_popescu was tsar and god with his z80 . but , behold, even in 100bytes you can do things.
mircea_popescu: this is the fundamental difference -- in the original soviet, the little soviets were expected to plug selves into machine. which, while in a deeply feminine sort of way, is nevertheless somehow satisfying.
asciilifeform: ( legendarily, soyuz actually carried mk-52, reportedly, on board, a sort of mk-61 with i/o connector, as backup to main comp )
asciilifeform: 'land the capsule'
asciilifeform: it is sorta hilarious how a good 50-60% of the popular (they were hand-copied, and machine had no nonvolatile memory, you had to throw in the proggy each time you flipped the power on ) gamez, were based on the very soviet-flavoured diff. eqn. models the factory manual suggested
mircea_popescu: truth of the marketplace is that a cent of power was always worth millions of beauty.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, makes power, rather than beauty.
mircea_popescu: said everything else. then they want to talk about tin foils.
asciilifeform: where he 'picture trying to hire world-class pianists, if occasionally grand piano exploded and took entire county with it'
mircea_popescu: somehow all the "opponents" never managed to FUCKING SAY THIS, the only actual, valid argument.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 16:38 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu earlier suggested , 'boltzmann distrib' of coffee speck velocities, almost certainly has high end that grinds pieces of your vessel into the output
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is the true problem with nuclear reactors : exactly like the coffee grinder (see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735165 ), the probability of runaway is almost never 0. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( and there were astonishing oddities of other kinds, for this humble machine, e.g. a 'tetris' where, lacking a graphical display, you had to instead pick a numeric column where the piece drops, and give another number representing rotation, and keep whole thing in yer head... )
asciilifeform: so the hilarious bit, is that folx wrote variations on the theme, 'sim whore', 'bordello'
mircea_popescu: this is like saying, "Here's our companion games to a pair of dice".
asciilifeform: one of these was 'reactor control' , with realistic constants, you had to ramp up reactor, control the rods and the sodium pump etc, object was to get max power but avoid meltdown ☟︎
asciilifeform: but as the '90s marched on, the thing did not, apparently, immediately fade away and die ( troo comps remained expensive, rare, until '93-'94ish ); so folx continued to write and circulate samizdat gamez : http://lordbss.pp.ru/pmk.html
asciilifeform: rid paper, to work the labyrinths, tank battles, etc ) ;
asciilifeform: here's a historical lul that mircea_popescu might find stimulating. asciilifeform ( and his brother, and a whole generation of folx ) grew up with a certain orc '100 bytes of ram, but hey it's fucking programmable' little box, http://www.alfredklomp.com/technology/mk-61 . and the Official b00k for it ( http://publ.lib.ru/ARCHIVES/G/GAYSHTUT_Aleksandr_Grigor'evich/_Gayshtut_A.G..html ) had various games (typically you had to draw on g ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (and for the gandalfs in the peanut gallery : streetwalking is ~hard~. short of infantryman during war, streetwalker has the hardest, most biodemanding job there is. which is why i respect them a lot more than i respect githikipedia contributors)
mircea_popescu: and the results are never good.
mircea_popescu: (this, by the way, is why you shouldn't permit women to run the house. it's way too fucking easy for them to fritz-chip the jtags.)