asciilifeform: Framedragger: deliberately playing idiot ? or is the difference between a proof (e.g. euclid's) and a conjecture (rsa) not apparent to Framedragger ?
asciilifeform: that remains, quite irrespective of which particular sig algo were to be used.
asciilifeform: we discusses the ~fundamental~ problem with monero's signature scheme.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: and which vtron were you using ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: upload the key, the seal, and the patch ??
asciilifeform: ('even though my gpgtron says it's a good sig' means that you have up-to-date key ( asciilifeform removed the expir date of his mod this year ) but not an updated v-wot. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu at one point had article where 'there are people who labour under belief that if they could get a big enough house, they will never have to clean it' or how did it go
asciilifeform: tumour is this thing for which no size is the correct size.
asciilifeform: you can tell that it was a tumour, because it continues to carry on beyond any reasonable scale ('tasking' was not enough, saving all registers on ~every interrupt was not enough, now also need 'vm hypervisor', and now THAT not enough, need meta-hypervisor... etc barfalicious)
asciilifeform: much of the mechanical complexity of 'c machine' is items like tlb cache, and page tables in general, and mechanisms for saving arbitrary state -- to give each process the illusion of independently occupying a 1980s-style 'personal comp'
asciilifeform: the 'reflexive' liquishit is implicit in 'let's let every fungus write programs'
asciilifeform: in the sense that they were ~engineered objects~ rather than piles of fungal liquishit -- yes.
asciilifeform: and somehow survive, e.g., winblows (and other multiprocess crapolade)
asciilifeform: the folx with the blinkers got correctness largely 'for free', and carried on thinking that this could continue
asciilifeform: not wrong, but not the complete story;
asciilifeform: how to buffer vga - is not in dispute, no
asciilifeform: was addressing the 'may as well write whole proggy in c' strictly.
asciilifeform: specifically no. it was really a good (if unintentional) lesson in how to optimize ~properly~ - i.e. the part that actually ~demands~ the massage.
asciilifeform: 'When Roberts came to Stanford in 1990, CS106A was still taught in Pascal, a programming language he described as not “clean.” The department adopted the C language in 1992.'
asciilifeform: (as described in Framedragger's link. 'why does this box need crew to push a button?' 'BECAUSE! stfu terrorist' 'didn't grass grow in orbit 10,001 times in this identical way?' 'stfu terrorist' etc.
asciilifeform: liquishit that doesn't pass the laugh test.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ~100% of iss 'research' is of roughly same grade as 'climate science.'
asciilifeform: also BingoBoingo on second thought i disrecommend this type of trap : stiff trigger. ( asciilifeform now has film of vermin happily munching from the traps )
asciilifeform: ( the airgun film from youtube linked earlier was interesting imho, in re how rodents will happily climb on top of a pile of corpses of their fellows and sit there, chewing whatever snack... )
asciilifeform: ah, rat poison. nope, and it is specifically not what i need here, i have 0 use for dead rodents in walls, between ceilings, had this at old flat and f--- would not do again. they gotta pay for their crimes on designated scaffolds, on designated chopping blocks.