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mircea_popescu: charles was of the idea that he has the authority to rule as a thing of his own ; the unitarians were of the idea that "supreme executive power exudes from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony"
asciilifeform: fwiw e.g. FUCKGOATS is repeatable, for so long as component base is available. ( and i include paper schematics & listing with it, for a reason..) but the direr problem is the shortage of literate operator who even knows wtf he is holding in hands
asciilifeform: generally i dun work with 'make technology that will survive fullbore apocalypse ~as technology~ (vs indiv artifacts) ' -- this is above asciilifeform's paygrade.
mircea_popescu: to then take this wot-process and try to mechanize it ("instead of going and trying by self as science ie http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/ REQUIRES of me i shall simply say "was not replicated") is doomed to the same failure all wot-mechanization attempts are in principle doomed to
mircea_popescu: no technology survives as such the end of the literate that borne it.
asciilifeform: i'll add that a tech that can only be operated by the literate -- is replicable , for so long as literate folx are.
mircea_popescu: (literacy, for the sake of propriety, remains what newman defined, http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/ "to see things as they are, to go right to the point, to disentangle a skein of thought, to detect what is sophistical, and to discard what is irrelevant." hence the literacy as basis for technology, to distinguish slapping from lighting)
mircea_popescu: now, as to the other horn, what is "to replicate" ? fire is a technology, no man has yet replicated any fire -- fire is necessarily, as per thermodynamic laws -- irreplicable.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine what sense does this make, to put iliteracy as the gatekeepeer to technology.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the strugatsky brothers, before sinking into senile delirium, had a tale 'roadside picnic', where unknown aliens land and leave buncha rubbish behind, and immediately depart. the rubbish includes 'usefuls', such as 'eternal batteries', but also various deadlies, and plenty of things 'in between', and earthling culture is rearranged by it. ☟︎
asciilifeform: any effect that cannot be replicated, must be modelled as 'magical', unfortunately
asciilifeform: granted, the stick dun work if nobody wields it, just as turing's meat didn't
mircea_popescu: note that there's a problem here. that i, personally (and not explicably) manage somehow to be sexually attractive to women less than half my age as i was to women over twice my age has very little to do with anything and i wouldn't expect it systematizable.
mircea_popescu: but i guess that was coincidental, model works quite well i nthe general, including cases such as "TW looking for IM" like say http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-todays-lulz-the-obnoxious-cocksucker/
mircea_popescu: understand : woman saying "i don't have sex" is a fine approximation of "i don't have sex [unless you convincingly ask me to]". meanwhile "i don't suck dicks without permission" connotes "well, you were passed out, i asked three times like the jews, in all directions, and as there was no answer i figured...welll... here's a dick..."
asciilifeform: but in principle there is no reason why a colo customer cannot seal his disks, so long as he understands that he will have to come in person and swap'em then
BingoBoingo: Ah yes, Naphex welcomed Republic as customer of exchange he did for someone else. Then when he wanted to do HIS OWN camsite ran away to heathens
mircea_popescu: but yes, very much that's the problem, "threat of depersonalization", specifically as "what do you mean republic laughs at me and my http://trilema.com/2013/the-danger-of-homebrew-crypto/ "
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno if you recall this naphex character. possibly the best illustration of the concept republic's to date known (though he was doing iirc webcams or exchangesd or somesuch, not directly casinos. but -- just as marginal a cvasi-business)
mircea_popescu: well, yes. in the exact sense "nobody got shot for buying ibm" : as far as IM is concerned, the marketing copy suffices, he doesn't understand the workings anyway and moreover is well inhabituated to not expect to understand.
asciilifeform: i'd go as far as to say that the principal enemy is the pseudorepublic, the gapons.
mircea_popescu: as a result the former perceive the need but don't know how to proceed and the latter antiperceive the need and well, the blind leading the thirsty results in many salty snacks.
mircea_popescu: the latter are a deeply asocial sort, utterly incapable of very basic tasks such as "exist in the world without a farcical self-secreted notion that you know what's going on".
mircea_popescu: the former are a deeply atechnical sort, utterly incapable of very basic tasks such as "compare these two items".
asciilifeform: ( then again iirc there was a mircea_popescu thread where explained that these dun use trng at all, as matter of principle )
mircea_popescu: republic in being. very much the same mechanism as in "you don't need a buncha paperwork for pizarro, the forum can resolve disputes for you anyway"
mircea_popescu: eir opinion" to the "interviewer" evidently taxes the system, there's no substance there so it's just as well that there's no substance demanded downstream.
mircea_popescu: this evidently works well enough for the "what does the news mean to me" crowd, seeing how the vapid "celebrities" that can't fucking spell (lulzy case in mp household recently, as girl tried to bring testimony of uma thurman re her being mistreated, only to see her charge collapse under heavy laugther at how WOMAN CAN NOT SPELL) have ~nothing to say anyway. getting a bunch of soccer players to dress up in suits and speak "th
asciilifeform: as if it had any substance to begin with
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i suppose my wut is spurious ; while it's true i can eat it about as much as salt, nevertheless salt ALSO comes in kg boxes. << It doesn't really come in much smaller packages. They go UP from here.
mircea_popescu: i suppose my wut is spurious ; while it's true i can eat it about as much as salt, nevertheless salt ALSO comes in kg boxes.
asciilifeform: that's approx same as what it costs here in usgistan (~3usbux)
mircea_popescu: i dun see anything wrong with either approach. having them all have current block height as trinque says, correctly reflects present situation. having them have whatever other denotation you choose (some kind of reconstructed "blocks as it were") has the advantage that it reflects historical knowledge. neither of these is important : FUTURE manifest.txt versions can reflect w/e we want them to then.
mircea_popescu: now the ~other way around~, where male becomes a sort of parasite, is widely seen, from fishes to insects (and, as per "they're just little boys" common discovery of middle-aged whores), humans also.
mircea_popescu: yes well in that sense, the soi-dissant "united states government" being as it is an uppity (and, shamefulyl, tax-avoidant) group organized under the republic's millet system and so on.
mircea_popescu: there's very much not a central switch, whereby the blastule goes "now we completed stem, moving on to ganglia". there's no such phase ; future neocortex structures predate such diversification as separate digits.
asciilifeform: you can pack as many #ifdef (xyz) into arbitrarily small segment.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly, and the "hr" office as full as ever, for every factory. just, not full with anyone worth hiring applying to do any job. just fulla derps who expect to be paid for existing.
asciilifeform: afaik the recruitment queues are as full as ever
asciilifeform: it aint much of a hypothetical -- 'new world' shipment was precisely as described
mircea_popescu: "women would never agree to be taken over to alphaq centauri chained to posts as slaves"
mircea_popescu: that, i can explain. us 80s notion of space travel (inherited from 1960s french, as seen eg in http://trilema.com/2013/hibernatus/ ) involves the notion of sending families in ecosystems.
mircea_popescu: when rich people had obsydian knife, dorks had bone knife. JUST AS GOOD!
mircea_popescu: all through computer age subnormals derped about with plastics, as a substitute (look baby! it's so colorful! almost like a real computer!)
mircea_popescu: well, two! there's one that came from the jenissary music, as a brass instrument (goaran) and there's one that came from the thessaly/macedonian pastoral tradition earlier, as a wooden shepher's whistle (caval)
asciilifeform: prolly worx just as well with these
mircea_popescu: as a result some crazy ass bug came to suck on it.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-07#1848476 -> I might as well mention then that I will redirect noobs to #ossasepia where they can perhaps attempt to learn something or otherwise get banned ☝︎
mircea_popescu: having / as a magical character should be a execution squad offence.
mircea_popescu: like all the rest of them. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840735 just as certified schizo. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i would suppose it wasn't so much suicide as the train failing to correctly play the part fucktard assigned it in fucktard's own WoWoW.
asciilifeform: as i understand , it was a perfectly decent meatgrinder, 'speshul snowflake'-eater
diana_coman: this reminds of that time when they had a "drama taster" at nursery and I asked him whether he liked it: "I liked it; a bit; not as much as playing with the hammer!"
asciilifeform: somehow i can't picture him as anyffing else
asciilifeform: ( unbricker worx 100% btw, when flash back vendor shitware, it runs as before )
asciilifeform: initially i assumed that stock rk3399 uboot will do ~something~ detectable, even tho it lacks support for the lcd or the oddball kbd chip, given as i have uart
BingoBoingo: Not burst into flames, but slowly smolders as nervous wreck
mircea_popescu: "From the 1750s, as with other Oxford colleges, standards dropped." << i'd say for the record that's about the right cutoff. by the time victorian period was starting, poor oxford was well threadbare already.
mircea_popescu: if the year were 1918, i'd definitely go. as it is, holy shit no.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform is specifically curious, re why brazil, afaik the 1 serious country in the whole landmass, is also half dour shithole ( asciilifeform's extended wot includes at least 1 d00d who went to brazil for physics conf and came back as 'cargo 200' , so i suspect the reputation aint entirely mythical )
asciilifeform: it'd even begin to make sense if they bought'em up to make long pig pepperoni. but no, they buy to 'biznis as usual'
asciilifeform: iirc they venezuelaed as recently as '01. (shitholes apparently are rechargeable)
asciilifeform: ( aint as if the boondoggle-station comes with dealership replacement warranty... )
mircea_popescu: in any case, a ssw assignment is not the same as a cash payment.
ben_vulpes: not as far as i can recall.
mod6: I kinda had forgotten that we did shares. Just had it in my mind that we owed you 1 BTC as of Feb 1. or something.
mod6: That's what I was thinking ya. So instead of 1 BTC for a whole year, as previously agreed, we'd pay ya for the months that you served.
mod6: Also in the news, Pizarro has fully paid the "Wildcat Bonus" to BingoBoingo. The remainder was $2500. This has been shown on Pizarro statements in the "Fiat Liabilities" table. It will appear on the August statement as well. The payment was made September 1st. So look for that line to come off the fiat liabilities table when the September report is posted in early October.
mod6: The exception will be, I will invoice BingoBoingo myself as one can not invoice himself (at least, I don't think you can)?
mod6: We have set a price point for the month at Pizarro as well, that price is: $6745 USD/BTC
mod6: In other news: Today is BingoBoingo's first day as Pizarro Manager. Congrats to him! We'll be working closely together to ensure a smooth transition over the next few months.
asciilifeform: 'Move the warning to an error as we have been promising would happen in this release. Signed-off-by: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>'
asciilifeform: as per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-26#1632664 lemma. ☝︎
asciilifeform: upstack, https://archive.is/WMoLv (warning: entomologists only) << the how&why of uboot 'gcc5+ only' idjicy. tldr: gcc5 silently broke uboot on arm. so the latter was 'fixed' so as to... ONLY gcc5+. in the now-customary way.
mircea_popescu: about as common experience of the contemporary mind as gods walking the earth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is pioneering internet work, as far as i know never before seen. 1. "here are your options" "omfg i am a special snowflake i won't take any of those" ; 2. "you have no options" "omfg i shoulds have some options!!" "you had."
asciilifeform: ( and apparently growing, as 'progress' marches on )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had'em for the ice40 thing, which demands such horrors as python3 etc
asciilifeform: in other noose, trad-gentoo's crossdev is completely rotten nao, tries to build glibc-2.27 (which is broken, as it won't build with any version of 'ld' i was able to find, full stop) EVEN WHEN YOU CROSSDEV ....linux-musl !!
mircea_popescu: neither anecdotes nor myths are a practicable basis for science ; but they're as fine a basis as there could be had for discussion.
mircea_popescu: as it is presented, an "untrue" story, it counts as what ? a myth ?
mircea_popescu: if it were presented as a "true" story, like so many other items actually so presented on trilema, with documentation unassailable and so on, then it'd have counted for what, an anecdote ?
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, I can believe that a couple of rentacops sucked you off, but if it is not a true story - as you said (even in the title), then how does it all connect?
mircea_popescu: it's not speaking to female capacity ; women can certainly be my enforcers to great benefit, for instance. but as far as the "ourdemocracy" state is concerned, women very much can't be useful policemen ; not just because of the obvious http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/antifa.gif but also because say http://trilema.com/2010/poveste-neadevarata/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, they all put forth the same pretense, hitler's "take over without breaking as much as a windowpane" very neatly mirrors calvin's "condemnation" of the 1524 wehrmacht.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i parsed elliott et al as a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-22#1843703 case ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the range wars in the very us raged in living memory as an exact manifest of this whole thing.
mircea_popescu: nothing's nearly as drastic in fact as the "preparative" imagination promised.
mircea_popescu: there's a deep reason for all the historical "initiation ceremonies", and the reason is as usual need. maturation's axiogenic.
mircea_popescu: well, there's that old "as i became a man i put the things of childhood aside". "something else", you know ? not a girl, no, but who knows what terror ?! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman alright ; but do you see the argument that ~school as an institution~ provides a higher onthological threat to the boy than to the girl, specfifically because of this implicit "we'll make you something else" promise ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I recall that specific complaint mainly as repeatedly cited by you; but other than that I thought it was already quite pervasive issue basically
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like not all 'seek limelight', erry so often you hear of navy officer with 30 yrs service who dresses up as chix when he thinks no one looking etc
asciilifeform: i parse it as 100% chukcha 'sympathetic magic' -- 'eat heart of walrus, become great swimmer'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: douche struck me as the type who 'invested' -- i.e. 'whaddayeamean you have no use for my 313337 web20 h4xx0r sk1llz, whatddayeamean go and learn asm or whatnot, you may as well be telling me that wagner, cyanide'
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i would dare propose the fundamental difference is that the boy absolutely needs to maintain throughout a certain feeling of continuancy, a certain notion that he's still a person, that something from his past nevertheless even today stands, that his retrospective history is somehow interpretable as "having a red thread running through it". even if it were to change, it must be continuous.
diana_coman: as mircea_popescu said above http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847976 ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847949 << possibly i'm think, but what is comparable here ? the 2 characters dun have same options, as treated at length in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847940 & elsewhere ☝︎☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> 1918 technoly lol, potassium chloride. i had an entire box, as a boy, FOR JUST THIS JUST IN CASE!!! << Ah, the old sodium free salt from the grocery store
mircea_popescu: 1918 technoly lol, potassium chloride. i had an entire box, as a boy, FOR JUST THIS JUST IN CASE!!!