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asciilifeform: simple : that if i find that it doesn't work quite same as previous, i nao have to consider hypothesis that phf made a mistake.
mircea_popescu: if "phf signed" is ~not~ enough proof to you, then why is "phf signed" enough proof to you that his vtools doesn't come alive at night andf fuck my wife ?
phf: the idea is that if you don't know the particular location from which the bells are ringing you will misinterpret their meaning
mircea_popescu had heard this befoar as "the dog hears the bells, but doesn't understand where from".
phf: in russia they say "he hears the bells, but doesn't know where they are coming from"
phf: i wouldn't blame "children!" on alan kay though, he's a product of piaget's huge influence on post-hippie american academia
mircea_popescu: cuz smart people keep doing this http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#selection-221.55-225.273 thing, whereby http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686299 : "i, the all-important lone mind in the universe, can't summon up an image of how the universe'd go if it were took somewhere it never went before, and therefore -- any nonsense i come up with is valid!" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: black culture used to create music at a time white culture was no longer for the same reason as the above : they were poor and retarded and didn't have music time-travel boxes.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, to revisit the literacy angle... "congrats on creating the music recording box, mr. tesla. the side benefit is that in a short time there won't be any musicians worth recording left, because of the competition to their craft your time travelling device produces will destroy the very economic reason for their continued existence".
mircea_popescu: this position is not without its merit. of course it also proposes literacy as the end of literature ("since they can write their shit to paper, they don't write anythingt worth remembering").
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of the water - i know more words, and in this knowledge i know all the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.
phf: i didn't know yuri lotman was a semiotician, back in high school i had to go to sleep with lotman literary analysis books, like those vietnam conscripts with their rifles
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the situation somewhat salvaged by the happenstance that you can't be any of those under about 60 years of age or so. (with exceptions, but they're rare enough).
diana_coman: more like they don't have a notion of "working indefinitely" or even of more than tomorrow
mircea_popescu: now, why the fuck they'd use an implicit grammar-lexicon bundle like this, i have no fucking idea. but the fact that they ~shouldn't~ (which they should not) is NOT opposable to me! since they do, i have my argument!
mircea_popescu: "but mp, you don't understand how the world works" "what is the meaning of '''new''' in the context of '''similar enough to old for this scheme to work''' "oh, it doesn't PROMISE to stay that way! this pile just works as long as it does!" "which isn't a promise ? and if it stops working, what, time for linux-backports-compat-compat, a set of scripts to update the set of scripts that updates...?" "YES!" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: now, why the fuck would chamberlain choose to only publish a dozen or so of the compat modules, i couldn't guess. but the list there is woefully incomplete, the story goes back at least to 2.4 kernels.
mircea_popescu: brought about by y.t. fixing http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-26#1854603 through generous application of sewed out linux-wireless-compat-blabla. turns out the aeteron pci board included (mysteriously dubbed "revision 0032") works with cca 2015 vintage drivers, and them only. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 22:25 Mocky: a lot of sites are blocked in qatar and i don't know if I'll need it but I'd like to run a web proxy on my pizarro shared hosting just in case. can someone make a recommendation? do I need something like tinyproxy or squid, or is there a way to do it without installing anything?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 22:25 Mocky: a lot of sites are blocked in qatar and i don't know if I'll need it but I'd like to run a web proxy on my pizarro shared hosting just in case. can someone make a recommendation? do I need something like tinyproxy or squid, or is there a way to do it without installing anything?
Mocky: a lot of sites are blocked in qatar and i don't know if I'll need it but I'd like to run a web proxy on my pizarro shared hosting just in case. can someone make a recommendation? do I need something like tinyproxy or squid, or is there a way to do it without installing anything? ☟︎☟︎
trinque: I'm not gonna be pissed if you can't handle it same day. Thanks for letting me know.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 16:40 asciilifeform: diana_coman: there really aren't so many things that legitimately call for 'streams', i have nfi what the standard authors were thinking...
mircea_popescu: recall when they "all agreed" then all didn't do, and every anglotard was surprised at this outcome, and every sinoderp was surprised at the surprise ?
mircea_popescu: "Sadly one can't mend a tear in the space-time continuum with needle and thread, and similarily one can't repair the fundamental immorality of christianity by superficial moralizing."
a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 18:43 phf: people who can't clearly visualize a cause and effect graph trying to do science. dogen is laughing at them all the way from 13th century
mircea_popescu: consequently, i don't trust a single word they write down to mean anything in particular, exactly like "how do you know democrat is lying -- his lips are moving" and "why do you have no faith in the xtian church"
mircea_popescu: i don't know they were doing opium.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 19:52 asciilifeform: ( pharmacologically also interesting : old-school opium 'smokers' ( wasn't actually smoked, it was sublimated in a device resembling today's 'crack pipe', and pretty 'high tech' procedure, look at photo of the kit some time ) -- the moar active components of the vegetable -- morphine & relateds -- didn't make it out of the pipe bowl, broke down, so theoretically the chinese were actually doing a somewhat different dope than today's j
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 16:40 asciilifeform: diana_coman: there really aren't so many things that legitimately call for 'streams', i have nfi what the standard authors were thinking...
BingoBoingo: Plant's pickier. They call cannabis weed for a reason, just won't die
mircea_popescu: so it prolly doesn't even count as "a fifth of a pack", more like "a twelfth"
mircea_popescu: you can;t get it packaged in less than lb, and usually kg, on intl market.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-05#1858552 << 0.2kg of 'white gold' doesn't seem 'trivial'... then again i am not subj expert ☝︎
mircea_popescu: imo we should have lookup version first and foremost. but if diana_coman has the time/inclination, implemnenting both isn't the end of world anyway.
asciilifeform: btw one doesn't ~have~ to use table. (it's maybe 10-20x faster than not, depending on cpu, is why folx do. but when i crc on microcontrollers i dun use table, it eats coupla kB)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there really aren't so many things that legitimately call for 'streams', i have nfi what the standard authors were thinking... ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: jurov: we'll be using auctiontron nao, so won't need to ask folx for halp!! ideally.
mircea_popescu: i don't have a ready list of the many varieties of items therein sold, maybe lobbes keeps it as part of his eventual marketing efforts, but anyway. it's known diversity.
mircea_popescu: and besides, a forwards btc market can't hurt anything.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was asking to see if there were a deal. apparently yes. and no we won't go back on it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't go back on a deal. but the past is the past, what's to keep you from doing more for the future.
mircea_popescu: well i think part of the problem may be he himself didn't well understand this before right now.
trinque: mod6: the hinting thing doesn't work. put a blog post out and give direction, pizarro's process is to ...
mircea_popescu: mod6 maybe a lot of this isn't well understood, we got a situation of everything waiting for everything else.
mircea_popescu: symbolic, abstractly defined denominations, like the roman empire's solidus, or what have you. they don't even have to exist to be used.
mod6: asciilifeform: well, that's just the thing. anyone who wanted to sell fiats, didn't start up an auction.
mircea_popescu: because it'd run in the obvious -- "you don't like it, put some grease in, what's keeping you".
a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 01:24 trinque: gotta say, I'm eventually going to cancel my service if this "we pulled the price out of our asses, and here it is" thing doesn't turn into a process somebody surfaces on a blog somewhere.
asciilifeform: something's not clicking in my head, i can't seem to turn it into an algo
asciilifeform: but what i don't yet grasp is how to make this go with mircea_popescu's 'settle in ecu'
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding this doesn't seem to actually be your position -- you do not in fact have the option to so wait, because you may not engage in this course that fucks over the record keeping and advertising obligations you have.
mircea_popescu: can't say " !Qauction 1bn 168 8.2k wFF q0" because gotta say !Qrauction 1bn 168 8.2k wFF q0 instead ?
mod6: After for sure. I don't have the exact date, but I'd say it was in the last week of september -- I reached out to a few people directly since I wasn't getting any takers in either #pizarro or #trielam.
trinque: and it's not as though I can't eat +-5%, but why, when learned folks have a process for narrowing those kinds of gaps, and don't need a bot to do it.
mircea_popescu: in fairness to jurov (whom, knowing the man, i can readily believe took a fx beating), wouldn't his implicit donation deserve the implicit recognition ?
trinque: and notice that I don't, because wtf?
mod6: I actually didn't think it was any big deal, as previous months I had made these deals behind closed doors with jurov as wel. ☟︎
mod6: I'd love to do this a different way. I just felt like, other than alf spending money that he had saved for a possible emergency trip, we didn't have a lot of other options.
trinque: gotta say, I'm eventually going to cancel my service if this "we pulled the price out of our asses, and here it is" thing doesn't turn into a process somebody surfaces on a blog somewhere. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Looks really good. I can't think of changes which would keep it something that might get bites.
mod6: hanbot: Thank you, I really like both of these. I don't think I would change a word. Nice job!
BingoBoingo wasn't aware Illinois has an ottawa
mircea_popescu: i don't see a problem. maybe could be had warmer, but not clear that can be done without elongation. terseness' is a virtue, as ~nobody reads anymore.
mircea_popescu: i just... i don;'t recall days that huge, ever.
mircea_popescu: ain't even fat.
hanbot: ahaha, okay. i haven't seen the inside of a cow holding pen, no, fancy that.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't look like your house. it looks like a cow's house.
mircea_popescu: i don't expect the cows to sit on couches as a resul;t of this.
hanbot: well, say some journos or whoever want to chat. does talking to the foundation necessitate jumping through the #t voice model hoops?
hanbot: here's a question for the forum at large as i'm thinking about the missives on my plate for today: if tbf outreach is a goal, and talking to people a primary avenue of same, given the rocky road to voice in #t these days, should the foundation host its own castle-channel?
BingoBoingo: ;tl didn't click: Picture of a "Genderbread Man" graphic
mircea_popescu: to engage in any of it, at all -- you wouldn't discourse with the girls over the relative merits of pompadours or bangs, notwithstanding the lesser value items in the sack may very well want you to.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i can't remember wtf "truffles" was. << I think you figured it as girlgendered at some point
asciilifeform: afaik using keccak for the 32 doesn't actually win anyffing over crc32 tho
asciilifeform doesn't know the game board well enuff to comment meaningfully at this level, so will leave it at this
mircea_popescu: i don't think so.
asciilifeform: i don't specifically know, will depend on how it's used in the box neh
asciilifeform: oh hey, finally a heathnlink that doesn't die in ~months
mircea_popescu: i can't remember wtf "truffles" was.
a111: Logged on 2015-07-05 22:31 mircea_popescu: if that 1% doesn't feel the state like a glove, the state's gone. kinda like my ancient "the state may exist inasmuch as and for as long as i can't tell it's there."
mircea_popescu: "how come i don't, then !?" "three guesses."
mircea_popescu: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Atrilema.com+%22and+in+other+dead+things%22&t=ffsb&ia=web << check out this lulz.
asciilifeform: indexing ain't actually so hard, but it dun scale to 1e12 nonpaying lolcats
mircea_popescu: i strongly suspect ~actual~ search doesn't even happen anymore. because heck, page indexing is fucking hard, and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-01#1856427 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Atrilema.com+dead+things&t=ffsb&ia=web << look at this stupid shit.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, i know who you or mocky are, i don't know these random names!" "so ?" "so the random names are spam" "congratulations of having a wot. now try without."
mod6: I don't have my notes in front of me though.
mircea_popescu: yeah but we were using a "standard" figure. what's pizarro charge, i don't recall ? was it 10% ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i figure the rams or what were don't need to be included ; what'd the switch end up costing, you ever figured it ?
mircea_popescu: anyway ; terminal (which hasn't been "updated" to "newest in ux and gui" crap, thankfully) lets us know they have 170,593,000 shares outstanding, not counting warrants and options.
mircea_popescu: because the "oh, we don't DO hp anymore" is definitely coming out.
mircea_popescu: as long as "engineering" and computer pseudoscience and tesla and deeply dysfunctional entirely-not-a-chance-in-hell-of-ever-working-why-don't-you-talk-of-hp-anymore "electric" cars get money... on what grounds can you deny it to irigaray and her brood ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform because the "science" just as much on the dole, and consequently the main reason the "grievances field" (i kinda like the term tbh) even exists. << I didn't realise until today that I am one of the leading indepenent scholars in greviances studies
mircea_popescu: the logic is sound, if you think it through : "we fat sexually worthless females, in a word we the mamies, have the following grievance : back when the clever boys discovered new lands and made train engines, you priviledged them for this reason. now -- they do not. why can't we also have the payola they get ?" "uhm..." "and if you don't like this simple formulation, we can add 10mn words of rephrasings ?" "fuck"
mircea_popescu: what they "say"... well they ain't sayin' anything. in the great depression lotta folk "listened" in church because only way they'd get the bowl of soup.
trinque: isn't as though they get real food out of it either, just velveeta and fungal breadlike. what's to care about?
asciilifeform: phood, communal flats ( they can't build'em fast enuff.. ), 'degrees', jerbs, et
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That thought influenced the title word choice. Can't kill a corpse, but you can still hit it for damage.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect that it won't 'kill credibility' , it is impossible to kill what's been dead since orig sokal (at the very least!) -- but still lulzy