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phf:
as BingoBoingo continues living in orcland and his subtle mannerisms lose the imperial edge the locals no longer perceive him
as a white sahib, soon attempt to "back to work, nigger" him
phf: mircea_popescu: i have a set of tools like that on top of vpatch/vdiff, but they are entirely expressable
as a 5-10 line shell scripts, and their variety is multitude "convert this sha set to keccak set" "see if these two sets press to same" "press all the intermediate states into separate folders" etc. etc. but i think what he's trying to get is a tool that will say "these keccaks are same
as these shas so you don't have to reread"
mircea_popescu: this is conceivably a useful tool, but imo not properly thought of
as "vtron".
phf: asciilifeform: please to clarify, do you mean that you can say run "./vpatch < foo" and if that fails you run it
as "./vpatch -t sha < foo". or are you saying "./vpatch < foo" and it attempts to, internally, first keccak then sha?
phf: asciilifeform: the approach that came out of last thread was "explicit flag", i.e. -t sha/keccak, but attempting to hash both then choosing one if one succeeds or bail
as you suggested is not bad, though dwimy
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 16:22 mircea_popescu: think of the whole opposability angle, will you. 1. alf : "your summaries suck" 2. bimbo "master, is this true ?" now i'm stuck. i'm not going to do a 3.b. "yes, because i like him" and i can't do a 3.a. "yes, because ~SOMETHING~"
as the something's an undefined symbol.
mircea_popescu: now
as to new extensions... imo bad idea. there's manifests and things now.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there was never a time ingenuity, specifically
as this almost-endearing-often-infuriating-wilful-blindness was never part of the term.
mircea_popescu: understand how professional medicine is : i am myself, and this fellow is a most eminent specialist in his field, with decades of practice in the us, and in his entire being
as perfectly intellectually respectable
as i could ever ask for.
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> this seems even perfectly reasonable, who wouldn't want to be right, until you understand the undertone. which eminently was "and perfectly willing to put on the adequate blinders for this effect" -> imo that is better expressed
as "only interested in not being wrong" - quite different from being interested in being right
diana_coman: ah,
as in: in them being what you asked of her? that's fine, sure
diana_coman: tbh if I were to critique her summaries I'd start pretty much from same point
as with the 5yo i.e. the way they are know they read
as if she doesn't actually have any idea what those terms she uses there mean even at a basic level and she doesn't even flag them
as such (i.e. "hey, this afiejif wtf is it???"); to the extent that it all ends up
as mechanical re-phrasing, it's quite stupid
a111: Logged on 2018-09-19 15:19 asciilifeform: if new vtron allows mechanical preservation of ~continuity~ , i.e. i can determine mechanically that a reground tree is in fact same
as the old but-for-the-hashes, then all is ok. but if not, this'd be essentially same
as throwing past 3rs of historicity away.
mircea_popescu: just because i humiliate her, in this
as in so many ways, she has to publish her struggle, dun mean it's somehow categorically different. erryone has piles of "this is what i understand of y"
mircea_popescu: think of the whole opposability angle, will you. 1. alf : "your summaries suck" 2. bimbo "master, is this true ?" now i'm stuck. i'm not going to do a 3.b. "yes, because i like him" and i can't do a 3.a. "yes, because ~SOMETHING~"
as the something's an undefined symbol.
☟︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: by all means, formulate it
as "bitch, you're fucking stupid", but formulate it in some manner i can get behind.
diana_coman: anyways, will wait for mircea_popescu to weigh in on this too; atm I still need to set up the main stuff and then those are params to adjust/set
as required
diana_coman: possibly because I did not yet fully digest the new one (or not
as well
as old one)
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I know that pain, honestly; I still trip over this change and I wouldn't even say that I have
as convenient a workflow with new tooling
as I had with old
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 16:06 asciilifeform:
as for tcp, unixsockets, etc. imho if we ever need these, they oughta live in own separate lib, given
as they force somewhat different and gnarlier semantics, they do not belong in 1 gigantic 'kitchen sink' imho
mircea_popescu: ada threading still seems
as promising
as it did weeks ago. few things survive this long lol
mircea_popescu: "
as long
as the fridge works, why do i need to understand adiabatic cycles! MYSTICAL SCIENTISM CLINTON FOR THE WIN!"
mircea_popescu: "Oh! Before you go, there you are: Floccinaucinihilipilification: The act or habit of describing or regarding something
as unimportant, of having no value or being worthless. Doms around the world, might wanna include that one in your dirty talk when trying to be a fancy degrader. Didn't want you to leave without learning something new ;) got extra points if you actually read the whole word." << dude's seriously off in his ow
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 15:31 mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the lulzfarm, "What do you need to know about me? I'm one hell of a kind. Seriously. You might like me or not, but you'll surely not find anyone
as annoying/amazing
as me. I consider myself a "mystic scientist" because, what is the supernatural world but unknown knowledge? I'm an engineer, a painter, a thinker, a bookworm, a weirdo, a kinkster, a traveler, a constant horny sensualist."
mircea_popescu: 27yo male. that you will not find anymore
as X
as. because this is now a thing, 20somethings are distinguishable in that absolute sense.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the lulzfarm, "What do you need to know about me? I'm one hell of a kind. Seriously. You might like me or not, but you'll surely not find anyone
as annoying/amazing
as me. I consider myself a "mystic scientist" because, what is the supernatural world but unknown knowledge? I'm an engineer, a painter, a thinker, a bookworm, a weirdo, a kinkster, a traveler, a constant horny sensualist."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: seems uy to uk
as fine
as can be had, that's what, 3 intercons.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-18 13:17 diana_coman:
as I was saying earlier: atm the fixed packet length might clash a bit with what I need but it's not even fully clear it's not *better* to have a fixed packet length anyway
diana_coman: asciilifeform, ah, I forgot to mention it explicitly but yes, my tests include ave1's gnat
as well
as adacore's gnat; this is pretty much for any ada code I test
diana_coman:
as I was saying earlier: atm the fixed packet length might clash a bit with what I need but it's not even fully clear it's not *better* to have a fixed packet length anyway
☟︎ diana_coman:
as it is, the selected minimal set of ops seems ok, except perhaps the fixed message length - I think it's more of a maximum length needed in practice, at least for current version of S.MG protocol
diana_coman: asciilifeform, if I understand your lib correctly, it aims to expose only a strict & minimal set of UDP calls; atm it uses C code for the actual socket part but in principle this layer could be replaced at a later time by some Ada layer while keeping the rest
as it is, correct?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, confirmed working nicely with its own tests + adapted client/server test
as used previously
mircea_popescu: noob support needs to be
as simple and requiring of
as little initiative
as possible. and once that's made like that, why am i forcing you to keep an entirely separate model for #trilema ? when the same thing would actually work better in point of fact ?
mircea_popescu: "it's not so much that there's no more pie,
as it is we ate the pie." hurr durr, endless infinity engine of unredeemable externalizations.
trinque: several lisp services using a postgresql
as a message queue
mircea_popescu: might actually offer a bot-
as-a-service that pms all new joins to the channel a question, and if it doesn't get the answer it doesn't voice them
trinque: "so long
as we all revere picard it totally isn't hierarchy!"
trinque: in the same pretense
as torvalds, "I tell people no; this is it, right?"
mircea_popescu: i suppose "express",
as in "genotype expresses in fenotype". though honestly, the more direct sexual reference is deeply adequate. this is a sexual matter, not genetic nor immunological nor etc.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, historical aristocracy did not enjoy quite
as deep or strict cleavage from the peons. yes your count would be "brave" where your peasanrt would be "cowardly", but this is very fucking little when compared to "in alte stiri umoristice, prostalaii astia cu fetlife si-or angajat uameni si-or schimbat saitu', pen'ca li se parea lor cam nedrept ca de ce fac io ce vreau pe-acolo. ca rezultat, mi-or murit tate scri
mircea_popescu: in strict professional terms, this is the sort of boon nobody could have even fucking hoped for,
as a child. it's one thing to "miss out on bitcoin" because bought food instead of bitcoin in 2012. it is however a substantially different thing to miss out on engineering -- harder to fucking do.
mircea_popescu: if they don't happen to same, that is
as far
as anyone knows, sheer coincidence. because in not having said, you lost on being able to know.
ave1: this move caused a major headache
as suddenly the syscalls seemed to not fill buffers any longer (out of every 6 invocations of getsockname about 4 would fail with empy output).
diana_coman: ave1, if I get the structure right there, you have an empty root package Suckit and then children packages net and types; there seems to be also Suckit.Syscall that I see listed
as dep in suckit.types but I can't find the source for?
ave1: For example BSD expects a 1byte length field in the socket address structures (which is then not used
as the interface already has a separate length argument)