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mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel you've not actually managed to lose your key, have you ?
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel the point was that rms made certain falsifiable statements, that alf took the pains to falsify.
phf: i think the disagreement can be bridged on architectural grounds. i think
gabriel_laddel's lack of understanding of clx and ideological refusal to understand it better is going to result in the worse final design. there are examples of x11 done right, that are much easier to port away to native hardware. whether or not "x11" or "no x11" is the final design, basic x protocol provides for a very solid set of ground level elements and also
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel the reason kernel exists is so that random crap doesn't steal your machine.
phf:
gabriel_laddel: i understand your end goal, but the steps that you're taking to get there are going to result in worse design. you'd be better served in understanding clx first, making ~that~ work well by working to its strengths, and then replacing clx with own system. by then you'll have a snappier system and less primitives to write. i highly recommend spinning up VLM/genera and seeing how they do unix interop. it's really quite
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mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel so who renders, the client or the server ?
phf:
gabriel_laddel: first mistake is to do so much pointless rendering on the client. from the few minutes of talking, it's quite clear that you're prepared to walk the path of "linux on desktop" to the same result
phf:
gabriel_laddel: cairo is not integrated with X, nor is freetype. both are client side rendering libraries, that send computed bitmaps over the wire
phf:
gabriel_laddel: you're saying that mcclim has FFI to cairo/freetype/opengl, i don't think that's true, care to link to relevant code
phf: asciilifeform: or possibly
gabriel_laddel doesn't know what he's talking about
phf: asciilifeform: i don't know why
gabriel_laddel is saying what he's saying. truetype has already been rewritten in lisp, and that's what mcclim uses for fancy truetype rendering. it's expensive as hell, and equally pointless.
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel huh. listen, probably not actionable right now, but in general and on the long term if you write me a crystal space replacement in lisp ima definitely bundle it in eulora.
phf:
gabriel_laddel: have you tried actually getting some quality type 1 fonts and setting them up ~with your x server~ and seeing if you like the result
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel but what's the goal or how are you proceeding or anything like that ?
mircea_popescu: im curious too, turns out. started what
gabriel_laddel ?
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel hey, they're people, with a brain right ? can benefit from discussion of this as any other topic.
mircea_popescu: whether os or not os needn't be resolved ; but
gabriel_laddel should be able to acquire a copy i say!
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deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of
gabriel_laddel from 2 to 2 << "McClim & stuff"
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated
gabriel_laddel 2 at 2015/04/11 14:35:30 << almost a year later, he got a larger chunk of exercise ball down his gullet than anyone i know of.
phf: mircea_popescu: it's a ui for lisp that
gabriel_laddel has been contributing to
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell
gabriel_laddel folx appreciated the lolz
gribble:
gabriel_laddel was last seen in #trilema 5 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 4 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <
gabriel_laddel> wtf else are you going to do?
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gabriel_laddel> wtf else are you going to do?
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gabriel_laddel> wtf else are you going to do?
trinque:
gabriel_laddel was supposed to be building just this
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trinque:
gabriel_laddel: if you need a gentoo box to hack on I don't mind having such a thing on my network somewhere, provided you have a thing to get into it
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 15:05
gabriel_laddel is currently shopping around for a USB drive that will hold all the masamune sources, as the current one is too small
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phf:
gabriel_laddel: rockville, md. they had a crime here once, a black guy jaywalked.
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel legal immunity. as they say in civ, "our words are backed with nuclear weapons".
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mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel i was sick, recently. wanted supplies. idiots were running one single counter (of the two in the place) and the local women were doing their local womanly bullshit : bagfull of 100+ different 10gram items individually wrapped, to be paid with "credit card". so i asked the girl to call the manager over, and she was like "he's that way" and i was i dun give a shit, call him over. at which point some kid with aspi
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel incidentally, if you think that fucktard was "a threat", you have serious issues.
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel VERY, VERY different in SA. you have no fucking idea, and apparently you've not been following my field reports. these people are retarded. economically speaking, they're dumber than a gecko.
mircea_popescu:
gabriel_laddel computers do not cost 2x, except hte locals are 2x as idiotic. the home shopping network demographic pays 20 bux for a plastic "earring organizer", but this is not because "plastic is expensive in the us".
a111: Logged on 2016-07-02 14:39
gabriel_laddel: What I had intended to say was: I'm on the hunt for products that are difficult to create in the ussa because of the supergay laws, or the interactions between the supergay laws and the situation in the field (ie, why one cannot make automated turrets to defend one's $100/month flat in the hood == the feds).
a111: Logged on 2016-02-18 22:21
gabriel_laddel: I have a few obligations to take care of here in the US first.
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