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mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-01#1926141 << understand, the relationship is not symmetrical. this "mod6 isn't building off what mp says, just says his own things" thing you're trying will not work out any better for you than it worked every other time someone else tried it before. i get that the self-feeling of specialness is the core and root of all hominids, but that doesn't promise it also does something outside the skull. se ☝︎

asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform is sewing a constant-time keccak so that peh can rsa in battlefield. is someone gonna do this in my place, so i can write www log ??

mod6: I've got to stop moving for a minute and eat something, and then write up a basic nothing-burger of a foundation report. I'll be back around in a bit.

mod6: Like I said earlier this year, I do care about my wot-rating, so I don't want to damage that. Let's discuss/work together to help me move on from these things.

mod6: But all of this has beaten me down. I've been trying to soldier on this year, being productive, helpful. But it's not working out, is it?

mod6: Heck, for what its worth, I know that there has been some talk about reorganziation of Pizarro's roles/responsibilities since after this latest round, that if I'm causing strife/headaches, I'd even be willing to split my shares between BingoBoingo and asciilifeform, and you guys can continue one.

mod6: This year, I've done what I could with the time I have available, which, indeed, is far less time than I've had in say, '11-'16. I know I haven't produced as much as I would like this year, especially in July. I've had so much secular stuff come up, my head is spinning. But reality is, I barely have enough time to keep up with the logs.

mod6: So I should just do this on my own accord. Shall we make some arragements for someone to take over the Foundation? How can we go about this. I want to see TMSR~/The Foundation/Pizzaro succeed. Even if that means that I'm not a part of these any longer.

mod6: It seems like Mr. Popescu feels the same way. That I should be drummed out. We've known each other (all of us) for quite some time now. And I don't want to be a "problem" or "idjit" or whatever. Mainly, I don't want to force you all to kick me out. ☝︎

mod6: I think my head must be broken, because the stress of making a decision wrong is paralyzing.

mod6: I've been pondering mircea_popescu's reponse to the above link since the statement was made. I'm not sure how I went wrong here, but not adding to the existing SHA512 vtree is what I understood my instructions to be. ☝︎

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-01#1926112 << These go back to this, I did test those ones when they came in. iirc they did work alright when I tested them. I stopped adding these items to the working vtree (SHA512) when mircea_popescu said, and instead started working towards getting the keccak vtree built & then getting it onto cuntoo. Figured once there & stab ☝︎☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-08-01 12:41 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: lobbesbot. The heathen VPS it is hosted on is migrating their servers. Hopefully will be back online in 24 hours (I didn't want 100% of my stuff on Pizarro; potential central point of failure and all)

asciilifeform: and hey jurov, can i persuade you to update http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/ to contain the latest flagship tree plz ?

a111: Logged on 2019-08-01 21:01 dorion: I have a trb node pressed to asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch plus a local modification to add a new rpc. This node was was fully synced for a couple days, but has failed to verify block 588012.

asciilifeform: at this pt, seems quite evident that someone is throwing around crafted wedge chains (i.e. mined after-the-fact , with backdated timestamp, going from older block) specifically to wedge syncing folx.

dorion: when I grep 0000000000000000000ba68c82d9b620cf028f0642c833a5eda92dbf68d5a3fb debug.log it reports to have

dorion: Given the truncated hashes, I pressed to asciilifeform_whogaveblox.vpatch (which includes mod6_excise_hash_truncation.vpatch), stopped the node and restarted with the new binary.

dorion: I have a trb node pressed to asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch plus a local modification to add a new rpc. This node was was fully synced for a couple days, but has failed to verify block 588012. ☟︎

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-01#1925973 << i dunno that non-js webmail thing exists. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: nor am i against it or anything.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there are actually coupla dozen (that asciilifeform knows of) schemes similar in scope to luby's -- i picked his simply cuz a) works b) minimal complexity

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-01#1925939 << this is incidentally a very good point i would much regret being lost. webpages wouldn't suffer from this "coinverges -- eventually" behaviour ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: anyway, i'm not proposing any hangings today ; but we also can't just completely ignore this ridiculousness wtf.

mp_en_viaje: i thought this required gnu cl

mp_en_viaje: i also do not believe that going about in ox-drawn carts with "Mercedesuzuki" spray-painted on the sides "will aid people to migrate to cars later" or anything

asciilifeform: imho if stuck with ugly piece of shit, would still rather have one w/out the nulltermstring, buf overrun, offbyone, etc. bugola. but i see mp_en_viaje's pt

mp_en_viaje: i don't specifically care re the culprint ; but i do not see the wisdom of having a lisp server if it looks like that. for one thing, if you just make it honest c more people can be found to debug it.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: at one time in '17 asciilifeform tried hand at writing basic ada www server. ended up burning it all. because ended up looking quite like 'hunchentoot', and quite evidently 'water took the shape of the bottle', i.e. inescapably

a111: Logged on 2019-08-01 15:40 asciilifeform: spyked: imho your 'hunchentoot' vivisection illustrates important point : just how much of the complexity of that thing is on acct of idjit tcpism's shit abstractions, i.e. the lengths to which it goes to pretend that the machines aint exchanging short packets in quasi-reliable ordering

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i was only able to eat w/out choking because already, decade+ ago, had read 'hunchentoot' an' barfed

mp_en_viaje: in other scandal, by the time i hit "[wafs] wake-acceptor-for-shutdown" in spyked 's story i'm so fucking pissed off i can't even continue reading.

asciilifeform: epic win, btw, the server-end highlighter. i'ma put it in my www as soon as have a free finger or two

asciilifeform: shrysr: mp_en_viaje's orig item worx 100% errywhere (that i've tried)

shrysr: asciilifeform: ok, will check and revert. but damnnnnnn its working somewhere..rofl. Its such a cool thing and I don't know why its not standard.

asciilifeform: shrysr: i suspect there's an unclosed tag somewhere

asciilifeform: 'Note taken on [2019-07-31 Wed 09:17] Summary: By my estimate, I have spent 6-8' << oughta display anywhere

shrysr: mp_en_viaje: i thought the 2nd solution browser independent? I'm using the firefox dev edition

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lol i have'em moar 'classically' modeled as simply 'beggar' energy level

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i thought progression were more usually e.g. x -> y -> rapper -> p -> q -> beggar rather than x -> beggar -> y

shrysr: mp_en_viaje: I implemented the 2nd article's directions - just tried... not working on my browser

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what does this mean , for beggar to have 'goal' ? maybe i'm thick, but i thought 'goal' was to fill the hat with as many coins as possible erry day ?

mp_en_viaje: this might be the first time i actually get to say to engineer that reported complete failure "oh, actually, it works ?!"

mp_en_viaje: i dun think this costs anything

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: also their pw reset mechanism is broken, i've been trying to log in & cancel acct for 3+ yrs nao (erry 6mo or so) and been to their india-powered 'support line' even. no dice.

mp_en_viaje: i still suispect some kind of ungodly manipulation, because no mailinglist was confirmed or anything like that.

mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, asciilifeform somehow patreon sent unsolicited email to the email address i published earlier today

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-01#1925914 << prolly he subscribed to somebody's pay www ? i defo did at 1 pt ( orlol's ) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-08-01 07:00 mp_en_viaje: btw, i got like 60 pingbacks from you, that are all dupes. i mean... http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/#comment-95245 exists, but now there;s also one from http://bingology.net/2013/09/26/anti-bitcoin-bitcoin-apps-part-3-gliph-in-particular/?b=Rippl&e=#select

BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-01#1925907 << I noticed the blog was missing incoming some incoming trackback on older posts, so I poked the DB a bit. ☝︎

asciilifeform: the 'session' abstraction aint even cardboard , it is toilet paper. yes, i get it, ftp or irc box might want to represent a user as having a 'session' that might time out etc. but why give 9000 flaky (or malicious) routers between the user & server the ability to close the session whenever ~they~ feel like it ?

asciilifeform: ^ i.e. there are at least ~4~ successive impedance-mismatched layers of liquishit , if you count ~server~ (e.g. hunchentoot) . ~5~ if you count reader's browser !

spyked: asciilifeform, sorry for the annoyance. will certainly do, but the effort to add comments is non-trivial. I'ma try to add structured commenting (box + comments section for each post) in a few weeks from now, but it'll still be a manually operated thing on my side for a while.

asciilifeform: 'acceptors', 'persistent connections', various streamisms, 'listeners', and other 'i can't believe it's not serialport!111' horros

asciilifeform: spyked: imho your 'hunchentoot' vivisection illustrates important point : just how much of the complexity of that thing is on acct of idjit tcpism's shit abstractions, i.e. the lengths to which it goes to pretend that the machines aint exchanging short packets in quasi-reliable ordering ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-07-26 18:53 mp_en_viaje: im guessing for this one time http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fn1VH/?raw=true will have to be it ; but for the love of christ, what are you doing to me here ? am i going to simply ignore your articles because i know for a fact i'm not interestreded in reading something i can't comment on and you're forcing on me the dilemma of either not commenting at all or else losing it in pastes ? this won't do, if i use an hour to read a post i

a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 23:01 mp_en_viaje: as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1806991 tradition i don't even have enough information to distinguish between the case where "phf bleeding to death in a minsk ditch" ; "phf in love forgot all about world" ; "phf kidnapped by unreported alien invasion" or literally any other alternative. nfi how to approach it, either, tried everything i could think of.

mp_en_viaje: this is why the unknowns problem is an absolute bar to a high rating -- if people keep asking me questions about X that i can't answer, ima eventually drop their rating. ☝︎

ave1: I also have to work on my attention span for writing, I'm getting impatient half-way through.

lobbes: though I must say, Pizarro uptime has proven to be far superior than any of the heathen options thus far

lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: lobbesbot. The heathen VPS it is hosted on is migrating their servers. Hopefully will be back online in 24 hours (I didn't want 100% of my stuff on Pizarro; potential central point of failure and all) ☟︎

mp_en_viaje: i wonder wtf shall i do

mp_en_viaje: btw, i got like 60 pingbacks from you, that are all dupes. i mean... http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/#comment-95245 exists, but now there;s also one from http://bingology.net/2013/09/26/anti-bitcoin-bitcoin-apps-part-3-gliph-in-particular/?b=Rippl&e=#select ☟︎

BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I'll dig up some code to restore recent comments to the sidebar

mp_en_viaje: ave1, you know i got a coupla comments in queue

a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 18:15 ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925807, I did not know. Whole thread is the by far the best analysis I've read.

a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 08:37 mp_en_viaje: but, coincidentally, since they were building 1e5 rocket sites, they decided to also build 1e5 radars. cuz it makes sense, i guess, passibely, whatever.

ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925807, I did not know. Whole thread is the by far the best analysis I've read. ☝︎☟︎

mp_en_viaje: i believe it is, yes.

a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 14:02 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925809 << recall mussolini's 'get as much value from it right now before it's worthless completely' of ww1 gas in ethiopia ? i suspect this is exactly today's 'stealth'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925809 << recall mussolini's 'get as much value from it right now before it's worthless completely' of ww1 gas in ethiopia ? i suspect this is exactly today's 'stealth' ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 08:15 mp_en_viaje: fwiw, i've been re-reading the symbolics discussion, still just as fucking stumped on http://trilema.com/2018/the-symbolics-discussion/?b=now,%20why&e=they.#select as ever. a year passing has brought me no clarity.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925779 << iirc the moola was spent on the onboard soft. but i have nfi what relation this rumour has to fact. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: but, coincidentally, since they were building 1e5 rocket sites, they decided to also build 1e5 radars. cuz it makes sense, i guess, passibely, whatever. ☟︎

mp_en_viaje: fwiw, i've been re-reading the symbolics discussion, still just as fucking stumped on http://trilema.com/2018/the-symbolics-discussion/?b=now,%20why&e=they.#select as ever. a year passing has brought me no clarity. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-01-04 17:18 mircea_popescu: why the fuck didn't i think of that.

mp_en_viaje: so you talk it over with your boss, who doesn't know math which is why he's in charge of you (because he's unlikely to turn fucked in the head like ~everyone who knows math tends to), and you agree five degrees stepping and presumption of contiguity between. because fuck it, gotta decide something. (in reality more complex than this, but what can i do).

asciilifeform: tho possibly i get the implication in BingoBoingo's piece, where what utility the thing has, will be spent, 'pushing up difficulty'. but afaik this is entirely incidental to the process that produced the thing, and its predecessors/successors, process that has ~0 to do with utility, prospective or otherwise

asciilifeform: i confess i dun follow the analogy

asciilifeform: i.e. 'price of f35' is same order of item as 'price' of an individual reluctant fuck from princesswife

BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I can't help by think of the USG/NATO/ETC F-35 dilemma as anything other than the ASIC era drama again

mp_en_viaje: i even forgot all that 2011 lulz

BingoBoingo: I do believe the 9 lucky peons get sandwiches

a111: Logged on 2015-05-21 09:12 gabriel_laddel: CL. Additionally, I want people who have no prior knowledge of computing to develop taste. Gedankenexperiment: spend 10k USD, purchase stock PCs, preload with something somewhat sane (Actually complete Masamune/bitcoin-assets distro) and distribute to a class of kids "learning to program". IMHO they'll play around with it, do their work and then p

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in tombs of other 'i will clean linux!' folx. ☝︎

asciilifeform: hm i distinctly remembered the 'tard handshake' being about the catv incident ! but apparently entirely diff piece

asciilifeform: not, incidentally, meaningfully documented anywhere (tho no shortage of 'these here are docs, cuz we said!' crapola) -- tho i do not expect this surprises anyone.

asciilifeform: (i suspect -- at least 80%. but do not know for fact.)

asciilifeform: and somehow i imagined (based on thin air) that silicoimplant comes with set of fitting covers

asciilifeform: 'in april was the jackal born, in june the rain-fed rivers swelled; 'never in all my life,' said he, 'have i so great a flood beheld''

mp_en_viaje: you know, at the rate imperial tards spawn, i expect we're just on the cusp of becoming "old man on the mountain" saint-hermits, revered antiqua etc.

a111: Logged on 2019-07-30 12:15 jurov: ave1 and anyone learning common lisp: I recommend CLTL2, it is more accessible to sequential reading and it's the same information as CLHS, it was made at the same time.

a111: Logged on 2019-07-30 09:09 mp_en_viaje: i thought for a day it's "bad internet", but no, everything else works, just this lappy drops. and... i put it in the fridge for 10 minutes, now "the internet" is fine again.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-30#1925619 << i've been seeing these for years nao. they're all contemptible scams, incidentally: profit model is that shit student ~pays~ to test for 'accidental' plagiarism , so that homework won't set off detector when his prof tests ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-07-30 14:22 ave1: jurov: Thanks!, I'll try it, but are all these lisp (sbcl, ecl etc) version 2 or 1?

asciilifeform: i only know one, i.e. ANSI INCITS 226-1994

jurov: asciilifeform: i'm just under impression ave1 is confusing common and Common

asciilifeform: jurov: i've actually written battlefield proggies in nuffin but the paper-standard cl. but admittedly this is rare.

ave1: Personally, I wish it was possible to understand all the principles, but I guess its simply a reality that I must deal with. I guess, if you think about it, the path to further progression does not come from re-learning what has already been known a long time, but from using and building on that basis, applying principles in a working fashion, and achieving new things.

ave1: I did read SICP, so I'm not unfamiliar with the basic concepts