asciilifeform: successfully.

asciilifeform: tldr : eretz israel (tm)(r) got gavincoined early on.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669363 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-13#1669495 , possibly elsewhere ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: unrelatedly, i noticed pete_dushenski had a piece re israel -- were you awake for the hagana thread ?

asciilifeform: ohai pete_dushenski

asciilifeform: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5128#section-3 << basic likbez.

asciilifeform: which makes the whole thing quite vulnerable. ☟︎

asciilifeform: the need to use un-NATed boxes as proxies, so that NATed boxes can speak with one another, creates star topologies ☟︎

asciilifeform: it is also a problem pertinent to, e.g., mircea_popescu's 'uci' and for that matter all botnet

asciilifeform: ( for n00bz : NAT is why there was never a fully 'p2p' w4r3ztron )

asciilifeform: drilling holes in NAT is - apparently -- an open problem again. ☟︎

asciilifeform: evidently 'fixed', in backbone.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686912 << btw pwnat no longer works ~anywhere. i tried. ☝︎

asciilifeform: lol, nao with ssl!

asciilifeform: ( i.e. when he feels like it )

asciilifeform: mod6: evidently he operates it nanotube-style

asciilifeform: ( not counting the 2013 derpitude where they published 0 anythings )

asciilifeform is mildly surprised that there isn't, as of yet, such a thing

asciilifeform: jurov: next, clearly, a usgtronic, 'responsible-disclosing' phuctor

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: written 1998 iirc

asciilifeform: was used in su almost to last days

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usa was at its economic peak ; usa banned -- others copy.

asciilifeform: !~google silent spring

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they are 'available' in whole usa, stuck to fruits, vegetables, sprayed into lawns etc

asciilifeform: the stopping had far moar to do with ustard pro concerntrolls than toxicology.

asciilifeform: fukushima does 0 on the timescale a fish lives on.

asciilifeform: or that it had anything to do with the scarcity of oceanic edibles ( we -- ate them )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not convinced that cumulative ( and yes -- mega-seekrit, it is ) damage to nervous system from organophosphates, beats ddt

asciilifeform: complete with wasp

asciilifeform: recommended

asciilifeform saw as a kid

asciilifeform: 1982

asciilifeform: re space wasps << mircea_popescu: ever see 'Les Maîtres du temps' (animated) ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: separate q !

asciilifeform: 'wasps? no prob, open the airlock a bit'

asciilifeform: i'm almost surprised they don't assume orbit

asciilifeform: i'd still rather not pump it into the space b/w (hollow, ustard-built) walls.

asciilifeform: lol i bet petrol worx just as well

asciilifeform: larvae are delish

asciilifeform: raccoon, i think.

asciilifeform: some beast... ate it

asciilifeform: had one of these here

asciilifeform: probably not flamethrower.

asciilifeform: and what do you suppose ben_vulpes will destroy it with

asciilifeform: ( or anything else that happily eats through drywall )

asciilifeform: duct tape is not mega-obstacle for wasp.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: may as well compare to stamping bug with boot

asciilifeform: just as the replacement freons. because it wasn't about toxicity.

asciilifeform: any an' all of'em

asciilifeform: fact : the replacements moar poisonous to mammal.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is mistake to compare to thin air and distilled water. compare to, e.g., mosquito's malaria, wasp stings.

asciilifeform: removal of ddt was one of the original triumphs of rampant envirowhinery.

asciilifeform: and ~unbeatable on target species.

asciilifeform: i'd much rather eat it, than anything sold nao

asciilifeform: ddt.

asciilifeform: unlike organophosphates

asciilifeform: wholly nonpoisonous to people

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: now take a minute to clench your teeth and remember that ddt was once sold, fiddycents a pound, in corner store.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought the notion was, 'yes you can marry but not marry-without-having-been-whore'

asciilifeform: prostitution makes sense. sucking for free -- does not

asciilifeform: stayed home.

asciilifeform: asciilifeform was at one time invited to... microshit campus, to give a talk ( about what? never specified )

asciilifeform: y'know, it is possible to NOT go.

asciilifeform: d00d has talent for appearing in worst possible venue

asciilifeform: lol rms interview on p. 94 (1989)

asciilifeform: lol!

asciilifeform: subj was the itanic before the itanic.

asciilifeform: but doubly funny considering what became of i860

asciilifeform: for one thing, ~all of the other ads, are for witchcraft ( magical dream enhancement pills etc )

asciilifeform: almost beggars belief that intel paid to advertise in this rag

asciilifeform: 1989 issue, p.25, ad: 'Cray on a chip. ... The computing power of a Cray supercomputer will be accessible to PC owners by the end of this year thanks to the Intel i860 Megaprocessor. ...'

asciilifeform: would not have made any moar sense than mormon bible

asciilifeform: it's shannonized rubbish

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686933 << when phf first described subj, asciilifeform thought 'what if i saw it then, would it have made sense, appealed?' but now i know -- no ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: it is not given to know.

asciilifeform: powered by battery charged by stalin

asciilifeform: reagan et al planned for exactly what they got : an extra ~three decades of Moar Time from the reaper

asciilifeform: ( they may have hallucinations of future but that's about it )

asciilifeform: teenagers ( as in subj of comic ) dun have plans.

asciilifeform: the feast indeed was in the works. but the dishes not quite what the feasters imagine, no.

asciilifeform: but dun feel actively disgusted by the fact that, over there up north, there he is.

asciilifeform: you wouldn't invite a walrus to your table either ( other than perhaps as main course )

asciilifeform: did seem like harmless nonsense neh

asciilifeform: 'live an' let live' etc

asciilifeform: because it wasn't an illusion only lived by the wankers. but, to some extent i suspect by everyone, this notion that 'there's enough sunlight'

asciilifeform: d.'

asciilifeform: 'At the appointed time, Our Benevolent Corporate Patriarchs would "lift the curtains" and invite us all into the wondrous Future they'd made ready for us. We'd all be welcome; the Future, by its very nature, was cheerful and inclusive. In the meantime, while they were getting it all ready, the corporations would allow us to experience the Future in short, controlled bursts, such as the World's Fair Expo, or Disney World's Tomorrowlan

asciilifeform remembers this comic

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686927 << ustard's conception of wealth is precisely 'neverending creditcard' -- see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-23#1631922 ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: trabambos

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the circus, https://archive.is/8bnEI

asciilifeform: invite'im?

asciilifeform somehow missed this when it appeared

asciilifeform: in other olds, filed under ucilogy, http://samy.pl/pwnat ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( http://trilema.com/2016/the-labyrinth-of-gender/#selection-119.72-119.412 )

asciilifeform finally found the pertinent trilema re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686793 >> '..."feminists" are merely trying to dissolve subjective blocks to regendering, so it's easier for more people to faster embrace what's socially required of them. Seeing how once you've decided to go to the dentist it's really very bad form to pick fights with the anesthesiologist, what exactly do you have against them ? Jus' doin' their job.' ☝︎

asciilifeform: somebody's trying to beat the disconnectolade record, or wut.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: par of ye olde tradition where crapple stock is 'worth' the moon etc, neh

asciilifeform: in other hilarities, https://archive.is/uHp7H >> 'Someone stole ~$32M (~153k ether) from three multisig wallets.'

asciilifeform: ( nao not everyone, turns out, has a standard ada. but this is fixable. )