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asciilifeform: soo it goes in the kbd. luckily ps/2 is very simple to talk in, you can use , e.g., a 16f84
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2016#1436573 << congrats phf! this makes 2 known hard-sane gentootrons on planet3 now. others here encouraged to replicate. double-encouraged to replicate ~with musl~. ☝︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00041934 = 13.5866 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: http://www.internetsociety.org/sites/default/files/04_2_2.pdf << almost ideal case study of WHAT NOT TO DO omfg111111
thestringpuller: ah. yea. I'm running on debian jessie a core 2 duo machine (older but not super old). but everytime thing gets "up to date" it stops asking for blocks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0004203 = 5.9472 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22176 @ 0.00042138 = 9.3445 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00042066 = 6.8568 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: 2 results for 'sirens silence' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=sirens+silence
deedbot-: 2. http://qntra.net/feed/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: adds up to 1/2 ohm load res
mircea_popescu: to summarize said argument attempts : line 1. "high voltage is dangerous" "mkay, throw out your tv" ; line 2 : "you will have to protect the line" "yes you will" ; line 3 : "this was done historically" "yes it was".
mircea_popescu: and 2. IF you want to argue against something i said, do yourself the favour and BRING VERY GOOD ARGUMENTS. because your own personal word will count for nothing much, and you'll just make a clown out of yourself.
solrodar: I have only 0.2 BTC of outstanding bets, so this isn't really a conflict of interest for me
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00041975 = 4.7012 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a simple way to address the problem is put in a fixed per-bet fee, of say .2 or .3 or w/e, and make bet minimum 1 or somesuch.
assbot: 2 results for 'what color are your bits' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=what+color+are+your+bits
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32201 @ 0.00041993 = 13.5222 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5697 @ 0.00041994 = 2.3924 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00042133 = 6.657 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: 0111 shifted 2 is 0001
danielpbarron: how do you get to 1 from a shift of 2 away from 7?
mircea_popescu: this because 2 bits = 2^2 = 4. had the shift been 17 bits, then you'd get to do 2^17 = 131072 old style hashings for each new style digest you calculate.
mircea_popescu: hash2 would have been the same for all nonces over 3, ie, 4, 5, 6 and 7. it'd have also been the same for all nonces under 4, ie, 0, 1, 2 and 3.
mircea_popescu: if in fact a shift by 2 was in effect, it'd be the case that hash1=f(header+7) and hash2 = g(digest(1)+1)
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2016 14:26:26; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2016#1435048 << if the nonce is not shifted at all, each digest is good for exactly one nonce. if the nonce is shifted one bit, each digest is good for 2 nonces. if it is shifted 10 bits, 1024 nonces. etc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2016#1435048 << if the nonce is not shifted at all, each digest is good for exactly one nonce. if the nonce is shifted one bit, each digest is good for 2 nonces. if it is shifted 10 bits, 1024 nonces. etc. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-03-2016 03:14:29; asciilifeform: that makes ... 2? 3? usg-authored corpses in the case now ?
davout: that would be three-fold: not charge more than a few percent for the whole liquidation, evaluate all claims against bitbet in light of its actual contract (and more specifically, the 3.2 (d) clause), try to get as much as possible from the non-cash assets, and (quite importantly) not disappear with the cash
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32574 @ 0.00042099 = 13.7133 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00041975 = 2.4765 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: that makes ... 2? 3? usg-authored corpses in the case now ? ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00042133 = 8.4266 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30592 @ 0.00041989 = 12.8453 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: I'd even be open to the idea of two people splitting up the work there. Say, split 2BTC/yr between 2 individuals so that we get good coverage at all times.
mod6: well, no one said you were gonna live off of 2 BTC a year, unless you live on the dock and eat fish-heads for dinner every night.
mod6: dare i say, that I would lay out 10 BTC, 2 BTC per year for someone to handle this task.
mircea_popescu: knob 1 above decides whether to obsolete current miners entirely or just partially, and is a [true] soft vs hard fork ; knob 2 decides how much i/o pressure to put on relay nodes ; knob 3 decides how much relay work to require in the mix.
mircea_popescu: see footnote 2, example : http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/#footnote_1_64828
mircea_popescu: BOTH hash 1 and hash 2 have to be under a number to qualify as a found block.
mircea_popescu: in the proposed model : a header is calculated, same way. to this, anonce is added, the combine hashed. this is hash 1. a digest is calculated, on the basis of past blocks. to this, the SAME nonce is added. the combine hashed. this is hash 2
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21350 @ 0.00042004 = 8.9679 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: what goes from 1 to 2 ?
mircea_popescu: but look at the jump : 1) unexplained item can be explained by a or b ; 2) it's a b-olympics!
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mircea_popescu: !b 2 ✂︎
asciilifeform: # /etc/localtime is a symlink with glibc > 2.15-41
asciilifeform: it could even make sense to fight on 2 fronts at once.
asciilifeform: adlai: holy fuck, 2 pows?!
mircea_popescu: 2) IF miners come out with their own fork, what do we do ?
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 02:56:58; phf: trinque: as per that rant only things needing pressing are asciilifeform_shiva_part_1_of_2, asciilifeform_shiva_part_2_of_2 and asciilifeform_shiva_fix_flag_bug
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 01:55:56; mircea_popescu: trinque iirc the bitcoin-derived one had two parts named 1 and 2 which you both need
phf: trinque: as per that rant only things needing pressing are asciilifeform_shiva_part_1_of_2, asciilifeform_shiva_part_2_of_2 and asciilifeform_shiva_fix_flag_bug ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque iirc the bitcoin-derived one had two parts named 1 and 2 which you both need ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63700 @ 0.00042051 = 26.7865 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00042501 = 7.9902 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39350 @ 0.00042501 = 16.7241 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00042602 = 11.5025 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00042318 = 5.057 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48611 @ 0.00042183 = 20.5056 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12037 @ 0.00042275 = 5.0886 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39165 @ 0.0004228 = 16.559 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18451 @ 0.00042327 = 7.8098 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47700 @ 0.00042549 = 20.2959 BTC [+] {2}
solrodar: for complete closure, 10 BTC, 2 months
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00042487 = 7.5627 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45813 @ 0.00042487 = 19.4646 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60050 @ 0.00042674 = 25.6257 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00042584 = 8.9001 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: i have 2 bits of emotion kakobrekla
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45300 @ 0.0004228 = 19.1528 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: phf well.. such magnitude of payouts is fine for coinbr where i'm alone.. not for 2 owners, shareholders, referees,...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56689 @ 0.00042637 = 24.1705 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17165 @ 0.00042894 = 7.3628 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58500 @ 0.00042572 = 24.9046 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28962 @ 0.00042657 = 12.3543 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94145 @ 0.00042716 = 40.215 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104870 @ 0.00042765 = 44.8477 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00042716 = 5.1259 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44950 @ 0.00043125 = 19.3847 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26302 @ 0.0004313 = 11.3441 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93550 @ 0.00043262 = 40.4716 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57200 @ 0.00043122 = 24.6658 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43139 @ 0.00043182 = 18.6283 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48226 @ 0.00043232 = 20.8491 BTC [+] {2}
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jurov: !b 2 ✂︎
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85309 @ 0.00043847 = 37.4054 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00043925 = 14.671 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69484 @ 0.00043844 = 30.4646 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85071 @ 0.00044016 = 37.4449 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0004437 = 2.3072 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109223 @ 0.00044088 = 48.1542 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57067 @ 0.00044414 = 25.3457 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41184 @ 0.00044016 = 18.1275 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50448 @ 0.00044269 = 22.3328 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68650 @ 0.0004427 = 30.3914 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51328 @ 0.00049322 = 25.316 BTC [-] {2}