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mircea_popescu: sleep tight!
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 05:15 trinque: "if my room is packed with cum socks and mcdonalds bags, dad will be too ashamed to come find me and kick my ass"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850298 << heh. i bet it "works", too. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 04:04 mircea_popescu: yes. democracy fails to account externalities as a matter of course. see also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783773 thread
mircea_popescu: the problem with socialists is and remains http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-25#1818526 ; they'll always find something "that doesn't exist" to dump into, and in the case of computer systems it generally is state. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-14 05:07 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849960 << agreed. it may need to come after the near-term and still elusive goal of cleaving the essential from the cruft in the portage tree. there is a shocking amount of state in portage strewn about the system, in /etc, in /usr/portage, in /var/db/pkg
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-14#1850292 << because nobody fucking considered the matter before. ☝︎
trinque: but this hill will do for tonight.
trinque: I'll be thrilled when I watch emerge build someone's vmerge, and then remove itself as last act.
diana_coman: last time I tried to figure out exactly what is what and where re portage I ran out of time to disentangle the mess, so I'll be very happy indeed to not have to go back to that
trinque: but the deps are all lined up there; that's the whole system. when it rebuilds itself, done.
trinque: diana_coman: thanks! coming along, squealing in protest though it does.
trinque: I wager this is because the item in profile that sets IUSE ought to have overridden instead of appended.
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qJ69u/?raw=true << current output of emerge -v @world . few things yet jacked in the portage profile, which sets/unsets things like that userland_GNU use flag.
diana_coman: trinque, that sounds great!
trinque zaps glsa and news from metadata dir, shaves to 13M
trinque: can then pluck ebuilds from their tree as needed, produce a vpatch, and include in the cuntoo repo
trinque: rationale behind bothering with the repository system is to let the legacy gentoo ebuild repository coexist with the vtronic repository, in exactly the same way as "overlays" do now with the gentoo repo
trinque: not only was there /etc/portage/repos.conf to define repositories, but also /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf, and apparently creating one in /etc does not knock out the defaults in /usr
trinque: /cuntoo/portage weighs 26M right now, compared to /usr/portage weighing 704M ☟︎
trinque: aaand just built a working nano from the ebuild in /cuntoo/portage, having no other ebuild repositories in system, and no barfs from emerge.
trinque: "if my room is packed with cum socks and mcdonalds bags, dad will be too ashamed to come find me and kick my ass" ☟︎☟︎
trinque: and it's plainly obvious by now that the kind of autistic mind that produces these tangled trees does so to attempt to exhaust the judging eye
trinque has scripts in progress to flatten the profile tree into a single profile, where it can be inspected and therefore judged.
trinque: work carries on, just wanted to give word from the mineshaft
trinque: and this is just the broad overview. in /usr/portage/profile there's what, tens of layers of dependency nesting. in some cases the children override the parent; in others they appear to append
a111: Logged on 2018-09-12 14:18 asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu reminds me , trinque : here's an idea, let's banish the 'root certs' and any systemwide sslism from cuntoo. if user demands it , let him install locally.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849960 << agreed. it may need to come after the near-term and still elusive goal of cleaving the essential from the cruft in the portage tree. there is a shocking amount of state in portage strewn about the system, in /etc, in /usr/portage, in /var/db/pkg ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: http://aaronrogier.net/fanfront.jpg and http://aaronrogier.net/fanback.jpg Please gpggram a destination for the sticks ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dun have to be right now, can go in the morning. and when you do, also plz retrieve the 2 retired usb stix from dulap, they've been zero'd
BingoBoingo: I did not take photo, I can run back and grab one
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didja remember to take photo ?
BingoBoingo: There are now fans lined up pulling air over the Rockchips
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i for one can't think of who exactly lies in bellcurve below folx who will sign up for 'pay now, see wtf it is later'
BingoBoingo: These details in their marketing print blurred together for their customers too
BingoBoingo: Walmart was their altcoin
asciilifeform: started out as quasi-physical totem of some kind
BingoBoingo: GAW was always cloud where customer is promised they never touch any object
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of garza's 'hashlets' thing
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dungetit, what's lower than 'it's a miner^H^H^Hcloud^H^Hpetroladditive^H^Hdentists-don't-want-you-to-know' ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think the GAW thing intentionally aimed still lower
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He had the passably hot wife
a111: Logged on 2018-09-13 22:07 asciilifeform: gotta wonder, what precisely caps the lifespam of a garza-style op. my guess is that it was never +ev at any point, and d00d simply ran out of his usg-allotted 'capital' to pay the shills etc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-13#1850262 << wasn't this the one with the passible hotwife ? ☝︎
asciilifeform wonders how many of the still-operating garzas are aware of their ultimate purpose in the scheme
asciilifeform: it's rather like how when they shot lavrentiy beria -- pile the crimes onto 1 d00d, then flush him, and it's as if the enablers 'never happened' ☟︎
asciilifeform: btw BingoBoingo recall when the butterfly labs thing likewise came to an end, similarly
asciilifeform: iirc while pirate et al ran pyramids, garza ran the btc equiv of those oldtime scamolas where you mix magic snake oil into yer petrol tank
asciilifeform: y'know, sorta like how the gavin-foundation ran through.
asciilifeform: *lifespan, but let's leave the typo in for effect!1
asciilifeform: gotta wonder, what precisely caps the lifespam of a garza-style op. my guess is that it was never +ev at any point, and d00d simply ran out of his usg-allotted 'capital' to pay the shills etc ☟︎
BingoBoingo: True, I'll put "blog a GAW jizz mopping" retrospective in the hopper as medium priority
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc d00d targeted the very bottom seg of the bell curve from day 1
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wouldja happen to have a link to where the sentence ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i guess 1 usg.rubber only holds so-much jizz, handler finally slipped on a new one and threw garza into the bin
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/09/jizz-mopper-josh-garza-to-mop-prison-jizz-for-21-months-after-pleading-out-to-wire-fraud-over-paycoin-drama/ << Qntra - Jizz Mopper Josh Garza To Mop Prison Jizz For 21 Months After Pleading Out To Wire Fraud Over "Paycoin" Drama
BingoBoingo: Extent of the freebies less certain. Before I left there were still "free dinner for listening" ads in the local ad rag
BingoBoingo: The time share thing still exists.
asciilifeform: aa see asciilifeform was in happy orc childhood in 80s, so did not see this.
asciilifeform: maybe only pitched to highrollers
asciilifeform not encountered this
mircea_popescu: actually, the us has a direct implementation of the idea -- can take a free 2 week vacation in florida on premises of people who aim to sell you real estate.
mircea_popescu: the point here'd be not the death, but the rekindling of a loss.
asciilifeform: ^ where 'burning at the stake', guillotine, etc. were made available as ~paid~ service, for folx 'hungry for authentic'
mircea_popescu: so the reader can relive THIS much of the past, in an age when every other thing's as scarce as chairs in turn of the century china.
mircea_popescu: i should have thought of that! think alfie, a future world wherein all thart's left is nostalgia for the past. a past which is no longer accessible, except in the limited sense, that victorian novels about prim sad ladies have pages steeped in koch solution ; whereas italian fiction of the plague will gladly give you it.
asciilifeform: reader wants 'true bore' like he wants actual baccilae in the pages of story about plague.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but anyway, in the very success is the seed of failure : in that they weren't all that boring they weren't, after all, true bores. a true bore can drive women to murder, just as well as the http://trilema.com/2016/the-pedoepiphany/ can. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it draws the good writer like flame draws moths, this. what all is finnigan's wake than the attempt ? and the very aptly named "hunting for lost time"
mircea_popescu: that i'm the only one to have ever written a decent FEMALE version... well...
asciilifeform: i'll add however that the strugatskis (imho) pulled it off -- in 'snail on a hill', they had critters who think and speak in circles, and it was drawn lightly enuff so that it did not entirely permeate the yarn with snore
mircea_popescu: they're all oxford tales of found faith, yes.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the http://trilema.com/2018/surprised-by-joy-the-shape-of-my-early-life-adnotated/ < -- > http://trilema.com/2017/zuleika-dobson-or-an-proper-love-story/ < -- > Loss and Gain (linked above) relationship should be i believe readily obvious
asciilifeform: boredom is the 1 thing nobody wants, dun even have the equiv of the scatofetishist there.
mircea_popescu: well, the problem here is CANT.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that can be well depicted (though it'd be a slightly more pornographic fairytale than commonly seen)
a111: Logged on 2014-02-05 01:02 mircea_popescu: pankkake it's fascinating how they completely gloss over the part where one group (the scammers behind it) stole the resources of the rest of the people involved (every idiot that bought some, mined some, or pumped it up until two days ago)
mircea_popescu: (and the man one can't rely on to that is very much the very substance of the moron ; hence http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-05#480525 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reminds me of erry (?) kiddo's eventual q, 'why in these fairy tales nobody ever has to take a shit'
mircea_popescu: always ? well no, not ALWAYS. there's one exception, says tongue in cheek the man one can rely to give a fair account and sufficient treatment to exceptions.
mircea_popescu: the principal problem of literature, of course, is that it's always better to show than to tell.
mircea_popescu: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/24574/24574-h/24574-h.htm << newman very much worth the read, as always.
mircea_popescu: nnot conquer. Hence it is clear that a bore cannot be represented in a story, or the story would be the bore as much as he. The reader, then, must believe this upright Mr. Bateman to be what otherwise he might not discover, and thank us for our consideration in not proving as well as asserting it."
mircea_popescu: was a pleasant, well-informed man; but when he never comes to an end, or has one and the same prose every time you meet him, or keeps you standing till you are fit to sink, or holds you fast when you wish to keep an engagement, or hinders you listening to important conversation,-- then there is no mistake, the truth bursts on you, apparent diræ facies, you are in the clutches of a bore. You may yield, or you may flee; you ca
mircea_popescu: "It is very difficult duly to delineate a bore in a narrative, for the very reason that he is a bore. A tale must aim at condensation, but a bore acts in solution. It is only on the long-run that he is ascertained. Then, indeed, he is felt; he is oppressive; like the sirocco, which the native detects at once, while a foreigner is often at fault. Tenet occiditque. Did you hear him make but one speech, perhaps you would say he
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_J._McMahon << in fairness, father prolly more the relevant figure. different quimby.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> who's mcmahon << Trump's friend the Wildlife Federation guy
mircea_popescu: "cultural marxism", right ? vince mcmahon, right up there, and EXACTLY AS MUCH as all the other zigglers, marxes, billy mays, engleses and whatnots of ye olde stupiditarian tradition.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what is sovok(tm)(r) is not this very duality.
mircea_popescu: as a result, a few people believe in the trinity, and a whole lot of truckers believe in the duality.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-13 15:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: '$64k question', famous. ( also remembered as the 1st and afaik last 'omfg it's rigged!' scandal, back when such a thing could possibly surprise anybody )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-13#1850166 << was huger and more recent "is wrestling tv show or sportive competition" debate. resolved, amusingly enough, through a doctrinal "diune essence", very much exactly like the "god is also son and passerine bird, same person" except "it's both staged and not staged" ☝︎
diana_coman: ahahha mircea_popescu that new header pic
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was both -- constantly during the war foodstuffs were eaten, but less and less produced, thus dwindling their supply and increasing their rarity ; while pantsuit "currency" substitutes on paper were not eaten (nor accepted), but more and more produced, thus increasing their supply and destroying their only form of value.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let's take this thread to #p, the #t log readers do not need to sift through the orcolade
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: see if you can find one similar to https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.uy/MLU-455183149-arctic-breeze-ventilador-de-escritorio-usb-con-cuello-f-_JM but that aint an 'import, takes 9 days'
BingoBoingo: There's a bunch of these, browsing through now https://listado.mercadolibre.com.uy/ventilador-usb#D[A:ventilador-usb]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Thank you for reminding me those eist
asciilifeform: and would entirely suffice for the purpose
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm moar than a little bit surprised that you found no usb-powered fans, they are pestilentially common even in souvenir shops over here