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a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:57 mircea_popescu: it seems
to me
to be
the right
thing here, "connect when you're you". otherwise, who are we
talking
to ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did it ever do what he describes ? i dun
think i ever saw it.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:56 mircea_popescu: anyway, seems
to me "automatic connections" is a
take on "a man walks into a bar" consisting of "but it wasn't really a man, just
the hologram of one"
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:38 mircea_popescu:
trinque
tbh i was
thinking of revising
the voice model altogether, in favour of a voice-or-kick model.
mircea_popescu: then like
that it's perfectly systematizable, "!!add #fuckall plain 0 intolerant" meaning "join #fuckall, kick/ban anyone who fails
to answer your plaintext question, voice everyone who does answer permanently"
BingoBoingo: Remember
the incredibly effective Bitbet captcha
mircea_popescu: simply have a knob
that decides whether {crypto|plain} auth is used ; crypto does what it does now, plain asks a question, "Tell me what color is
the sky", picked from a list or somesuch.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: noob support needs
to be as simple and requiring of as little initiative as possible. and once
that's made like
that, why am i forcing you
to keep an entirely separate model for #trilema ? when
the same
thing would actually work better in point of fact ?
mircea_popescu: i guess "this cat not worth
the skinning", in general, maybe. sure, not like
the current model is
that broken. but if you're going
to support
things like #pizarro, deedbot pming new names is way
the fuck better
than pizarro website or sales funnel including a "and
then send !!up
to deebot" etc.
mircea_popescu: erry
time i come in i send !!up
to deedbot, i sent
thousands
to date, why ? it knows what i'm gonna say
to it
the momen
ti show up, doesn't it ? who does anything @ deedbot BUT "!!up" when
they come in ?
mircea_popescu: what's exactly
the benefit of having whichever-unvoiced-name idling ?
that what, "they can confirm
the logs" ? wut
the fuck is ever going
to ask
the voiceless anything, i need anonvouching like i need featherhairs.
mircea_popescu: not like log reading and
the !Q later device aren't available
to cross presence gaps.
mircea_popescu: it seems
to me
to be
the right
thing here, "connect when you're you". otherwise, who are we
talking
to ?
☟︎ trinque: not at all, knife can cut in
the direction of "don't autoconnect, connect when you're you", and is entirely sensible.
mircea_popescu: you're saying
this level of incarnation is
too much
to ask ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, seems
to me "automatic connections" is a
take on "a man walks into a bar" consisting of "but it wasn't really a man, just
the hologram of one"
☟︎ trinque: can, but I guarantee
there are cases where someone's client will reconnect 5
times without
them home
mircea_popescu: "it's not so much
that
there's no more pie, as it is we ate
the pie." hurr durr, endless infinity engine of unredeemable externalizations.
mircea_popescu: "makes it sound like she has reneged on a gender agreement, rather
than come
to
terms with her identity" << exactly what fucking happened, duh.
trinque: mircea_popescu: eh? I'm not following you. implementing what you described would get someone banned if
their IRC client is automatically reconnecting during netsplits and etc
mircea_popescu: lola
torvalds henceforth ?
this is not even a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: "repeated reconnects without meat present at
terminal" <<<
this seems at best disrespectful.
trinque: can see
the wisdom in it, if freenode were reliable. would need
to account for days of bad freenode weather, or repeated reconnects without meat present at
terminal would result in a ban.
mircea_popescu: no more need for !!up, deedbot messages you on join, you got 5 minutes or somesuch
to respond. if you don't, it kicks, and if it kicks you multiple
times a day it also bans you.
mircea_popescu: trinque
tbh i was
thinking of revising
the voice model altogether, in favour of a voice-or-kick model.
☟︎☟︎ PeterL: at least now I can join #pizarro, but still can't
talk
there
trinque: I could move it ahead of hotwallet; oughta get linux repo work done first while
the dwarf-fortress-isms of portage are still fresh in my head
trinque: whole notion behind
the invoicing system was
that I'll offer
these kinds of subscription services
trinque: that sort of hired-deedbot service is already on my long conveyor, out past hotwallet, out past repossession of linux. I'd not be offended if somebody else did
this, but my version will be coming regardless
mircea_popescu: trinque is
this something you'd be interested in doing ? expand deedbot
thusly, maybe charge chans a fee ?
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: might actually offer a bot-as-a-service
that pms all new joins
to
the channel a question, and if it doesn't get
the answer it doesn't voice
them
BingoBoingo: If #eulora can handle, we might have
to raise our
tolerance for
the noise. Or get a bot going
that
than autokickbans on
the phrase "Allah is doing"
mod6: Alright, we'll
try
that. Also gave info
to ops on how
to do
things so I'm not
the one channel master.
mircea_popescu: or what was it, +r, w/e, need
to be registered
to join
mod6: i mean, for a channel
to be a useful place
to do
things, one must be able
to read it and its logs.
mod6: i
totally agree. kinda between charybdis and scylla on
this
tho 'eh
trinque: also apparently stood in
the way of a sale for PeterL, albeit
temporarily
mod6: can't really contest with
that
trinque: mod6: can't operate a storefront without being willing
to ban-per-derp
mod6: Also folks, Pizarro needs
to purchase some fiat, so if you're interested, can start up an auction if you like, or can do WU or whatever. Minimum $500, please. Let us know if interested.
☟︎☟︎ mod6: So
they went back on.
mod6: And ya, would love
to have #pizarro open and welcoming
to everyone. I
turned off
the restrictions
this AM and within 3 minutes, guy came in and shit in
the foyer.
mod6: PeterL:
There really only is one package at
this
time,
the Hosted Shell Plus, which is 0.002 BTC/mo, but gives you all
the items you require for a blog.
PeterL: mod6: I was looking at
the 0.001 /mo one, would
that work for a blog?
BingoBoingo: But you can encrypt
the ssh pub key
to myself, mod6 or both of us
PeterL: why is #pizarro invite only, are not potential customers pointed
there by
the website?
PeterL: bingoboingo what key is
that encrypted
to?
mod6: Hi PeterL: BingoBoingo was
telling me
that you wanted a Hosted Shell Plus plan for 0.002 BTC/mo, correct?
trinque: this must be
that original sin people
talk about
trinque recalls some other folks being arrested for "counterfeiting" after creating
the "liberty dollar"
a111: Logged on 2014-07-30 13:57 asciilifeform: g: 'show me
the real budget.' a: 'you're asking
too much.
that's off limits
to you.'
mircea_popescu: meanwhuile in lulz, "WHIPPED BECAUSE SHE WAS IMPERTINENT
Then Miss DeCrist Was Chained
to a Negress Until She Fainted"
a111: Logged on 2015-02-17 03:31 mircea_popescu: meanwhile, moore's dead, and
the
thing will suffer
the exact fate of printing.
trinque: "so long as we all revere picard it
totally isn't hierarchy!"
mircea_popescu: the whole "women are people
too, muh feelings, rape is bad mkay, e=mc2 is mean because it priviledges
the speed of light over other speeds much more important
to us" mamie-ism is entirely a different flavour
mircea_popescu: it was a very different flavour of socialism
than what's currently prevailing in pantsuilands.
this was supposed
to be pretty much exactly star
trek, "better living
through
technology [and carefully not looking under
the rugs desighnated 'do not look under
this rug']".
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the "millenialist", so
to call
them, "star
trek is socialist future" pantsuit group lost pretty much everything in
the 2010s religious war with
the "ugly fat negro women with
their
tits in
the mud is socialist future" group.
mircea_popescu: except "what i want" is "unleash
the creativity in every droplet of mankind" sorta bunk.
trinque: I
think
they'd have rolled him right over by now, no pretense of higher ground left
trinque: apparently not, better build something behind
the walls
trinque: in
the same pretense as
torvalds, "I
tell people no;
this is it, right?"
mircea_popescu: that he croaked is lofty irony, in
that sense, but i can't imagine what coming out it'd have
taken. how was he in ?
mircea_popescu: trinque i dunno, he was into
that whole "live forever in a
turtleneck and short hair" pantsuit churchlet.
mircea_popescu: consequently all sorts of
things are
the same
to me, or not worth
the distinguishing,
that i believe aren't
to
the more involved observer.
trinque was musing in
the office earlier
that Jobs died before his coming out, lucky man