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trinque: I dunno it's accurate to say the guy just grabbed something he found, but it's at the present impossible for me to evaluate how much code is g_l and how much found.
asciilifeform: i dunno. but plenty of folx apparently do.
mircea_popescu: i know but why would you use the ssh client as a text editor
mircea_popescu: why would i type ?
mircea_popescu: i feed it prepared lines.
ben_vulpes: i understand some amount of "x is risky", but...specifics are scant so far
asciilifeform: 'If the stories I'd heard were true, taking a tiny bit of it, a micro-dose, had the potential to make my workday more productive than ever.' << lulz
asciilifeform: this openai thing, is, i suppose, a parallel production
mircea_popescu: i fail to see this potential. looks entirely like "hey guise, let's agree on definition of ai that allows the pretense of sv technologee to survive a little longer plox "
mircea_popescu: i'm hard pressed to see anything in the "65bn" worth of vaporware that ycombinator counts for itself. they did what, a bunch of groupons/mediums ? ie, shareholder fraud of the cooked books version and shareholder fraud of the pie in the sky version ?
asciilifeform: 'Trump shows little respect for the Constitution, the Republic, or for human decency, and I fear for national security if he becomes our president.'
asciilifeform: ( i could be wrong about this, but yc seems to be quite the same chumpatron today as it was decade ago )
asciilifeform: what in this case means 'outperforms' ? i have difficulty picturing how anything short of sea piracy might beat pg's roi -- he invests pocket change in 1,001 disposable kidz, and pockets (iirc) half of anything they happen to bring in -- while carrying 0 risk
mircea_popescu: i don't care. there's no need for each individual item to be discussed. guy exists today because of the yahoo marketing ponzi scheme pre 2001 bubble. nfi why he's not in jail, but it is a shameful macula on the usg "justice" system.
asciilifeform: i've nfi which particular honest d00d he stole the observation from.
asciilifeform: i only remember mark tarver's 'disappearing mozarts'
asciilifeform: i can already picture how october might have went: henchman: 'rumours that we are tards have been spreading for several years, what shall we do' mrmold: 'i know! let's MOVE THE FORUM'
asciilifeform: i've nfi
asciilifeform: 'urbit is down tonight' 'curtis We were trying to subscribe urbit-meta to fora notifications, something very reasonable that we should have done a long time ago, and ended up producing a "presence storm." We'll fix it a little more carefully and methodically tomorrow -- or try, at least. :-) In the meantime, I've turned off all our major stars.'
asciilifeform: in yet-other lulzies, just when i thought thing was dead, (0 updates since oct. 25 iirc), https://archive.is/GcmdK
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Socket 1207 Motherboard | eBay: <http://www.ebay.com/bhp/socket-1207-motherboard>; Socket F Computer Motherboard | eBay: <http://www.ebay.com/sch/Socket-F-Computer-Motherboard/1244/bn_651799/i.html>; Socket F Computer Motherboard for AMD | eBay: <http://www.ebay.com/sch/Socket-F-Computer-Motherboard-for-AMD/1244/bn_656720/i.html>
trinque: actually, I suppose with them the "underage" is sop
asciilifeform: 'Mormon Tabernacle Choir... ... The group is based out of Salt Lake City, Utah, and dates back to the founding of the Mormon Church. ... It has some 360 members, but the decision to participate in Trump's Inauguration caused one member to leave. Jan Chamberlin said she was dropping out of the group and wrote on Facebook with reference to the inaugural performance: "I only know I could never 'throw roses to Hitler.' And I certainly co
mircea_popescu: i imagine beyonce + rap band was the menu, neh ?
mircea_popescu: we're discussing obama here. i assume it must be something akin to the man - stole a name, ran with it.
asciilifeform: lulzily enough i have a crate with the 7700k coming in today (to put in a heathentron), will see how it worx.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone is seriously proposing intel makes cpus.
asciilifeform: i like 3ware. but it will also never win any speed contest.
asciilifeform: the 2393se is the newest one i've personally tested.
mircea_popescu: but yes, i was thinking for domestic desktop.
mircea_popescu: neways. moral i guess being, stock up on above fxen, they're great and quite possibly the last good chip in human history.
asciilifeform: i get'em used, because they are ~indestructible. but yes.
mircea_popescu: i guess if you bought it when it came out the opteron was like 1k or some shit.
mircea_popescu: as i somehow doubt you spent 2k to build that box in 2009.
mircea_popescu: ah. yes i guess 2016 apple laptop compares favourably to cheap-side 2009 desktop.
asciilifeform: ok to be perfectly clear, i compared 2 boxes, one -- the aforementioned crapple, one -- a 2x2393SE.
mircea_popescu: i thought you said...
asciilifeform: i realized that this is comical a while back and started building a new 'toilet' box , but it isn't done yet.
mircea_popescu: "oh, it's better in this thing i dont use"
asciilifeform: i dun use ddr3 on hygienic boxes.
mircea_popescu: whereas the i 4870 has ddr3 1600
asciilifeform: best amd box i have is a 2socket x 2393SE.
asciilifeform: also to be absolutely rigorously correct, 'phenom' series ~could~ be coaxed into using ecc ram, but only 'unbuffered' variant (so no 16-stick monster rig). what it wouldn't do is to run in multisocket mobo (which is what i use)
asciilifeform: what it is, is the konsoomer version of the opteron i actually have in the box i am sitting on nao!
mircea_popescu: like what ? something like amd fx 9500 is, i bet, way ahead anything apple ever put in anything they made. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i should add, the crapple was also the fastest box i had available locally.
mircea_popescu: you're the worst sort of engineers, i swear, the kind who calculate tomato production of balcony and are proud to wash their teeth with a motorcycle engine adaptation contraption.
davout: asciilifeform: didn't experience that, what i did experience was "oh no, can't install valgrind because fuck you"
asciilifeform: i shit thee not
mircea_popescu: i dunno, they had to make space for java machine ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phun phakt, i replicated phuctor on a mac lappy (it happened to be the one in the room with sufficient free disk) and it works -- except that apparently gdb no longer works on latest crapple os ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: more than one mactards threw hissy fit becase "I R HAS GOOD LAPTOP" "dude... it sucks, we can't tell you that it sucks politely, BUT IT DOES."
Framedragger: ah yeah. there was an old 3g modem plugged into internal pcie, i removed it. pretty lulzy
Framedragger: (i want to connect my x220 which does not have thunderb0lt)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: k, good to know, thanks. it's just one bus lane afaict (pci express x1), ExpressCard 2.0, so 'double' the bandwidth i take it. 4-5gbps total
asciilifeform: Framedragger, mircea_popescu : apparently nowadays you can buy 'thunderbolt' to pcie expanders, if the machine has this plug. (i have not tested this variant.)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-06 12:42 Framedragger: OT, anyone's done an egpu rig on an x220? i'm probably gonna do an abonimation, and connect an nvidia card to x220 via its expresscard slot. there's this antichrist-like adapter (http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4C%20V2.1.html) which does the magic. bottleneck is expresscard (5 gbps or somesuch) but if one uses external monitor, it's all pretty good apparently.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-06#1597384 << i used a similar device to connect fpga card to thinkpad, coupla years ago ☝︎
Framedragger: right, i can see how that can be bundled up into a business product.
mircea_popescu: and yes i have. not particularly portable, but at some point people in $not-mentioned were offering "plug your laptop into the monitor" style videoconferencing
Framedragger: OT, anyone's done an egpu rig on an x220? i'm probably gonna do an abonimation, and connect an nvidia card to x220 via its expresscard slot. there's this antichrist-like adapter (http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PE4C%20V2.1.html) which does the magic. bottleneck is expresscard (5 gbps or somesuch) but if one uses external monitor, it's all pretty good apparently. ☟︎
Framedragger: :O MIT 1960s A.I. & lisp frenzy, a reboot
deedbot: lies, I tell ya!
Framedragger: !~later tell gabriel_laddel_p "I cannot presently maintain a connection to IRC." << get a bouncer ffs. ping me if you'd like a free one
davout: from where i stand it seems to me that trb would be vulnerable to it when signing transactions
ben_vulpes: i'm not particularly bent about the sorting, 'twas simply what made me look at the linked stanzas in curiosity. curious about "what of it", as you say.
ben_vulpes: yeah i'm in the same boat.
mircea_popescu: i recall this being proposed but im not sure if it ever was accepted.
mircea_popescu: i do.
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing it as a solution ; i'm not even sure exactly what you're talking about. just lulzing to self.
ben_vulpes: not inverted, as far as i can tell it's a fine place in the flow for it to be. i'm a bit discomfited, and am poking an old thread about "release vpatches" that seems to have surfaced unexplainedly in the makefiles vpatch
mircea_popescu: yeah i can't say i have a very good model of why it happens.
mircea_popescu: but as to the other thing, i'm not sure i follow. your v inverted patch flow ?
ben_vulpes: open topic for when folks wake up i suppose.
ben_vulpes: so i cracked everything open, and sure enough the patch in question doesn't touch any files touched in the makefiles vpatch
ben_vulpes: anyways this came to my attention when i had the privkey tools vpatch on my table and it showed up *above* makefiles.vpatch in the output of both our flow utils, which spooked me
ben_vulpes: mod6: on previous thread, i have a vague memory of stuffing a RELEASE stanza in every file of a release to neck the tree down
ben_vulpes: what i want is a "bitch do the obvious thing" switch
ben_vulpes: i'm sure it's all very useful in the prevention of foot-shoosting but ugh
ben_vulpes: naively, i figured cp simply overwrote the target
asciilifeform: not enough of a spike to propagate down the wire to where i have the plotter
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i saw interesting variant of this, with the selfsame led bulbs, where a dead lamp would light for about 1/2 second after the live one connected in tandem switched (from wall switch) off !
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> honestly i have nfi what a "doorbell" is for. police doesn't knock anymore anyway and everyone else should make a fucking appointment. << apparently they are for backfeeding current into switched circuits they are wired off of when said circuits are "off"
mircea_popescu: i guess it's different for collectors huh.
mircea_popescu: honestly i have nfi what a "doorbell" is for. police doesn't knock anymore anyway and everyone else should make a fucking appointment.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i do have a voltage plotter here, though.
asciilifeform: this place didn't even have a doorbell until i put in chinese battery-powered thing
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (now, they ALSO burn after 6mo. so not all that useful.) << Have you hunted for miswired low voltage hvac or door bell transformers? I had a "bulb killing fixture" that was tamed by removing backfeeding noisy ass doorbell transformer.
asciilifeform: i do different thing -- mail the lamps back, with a note about considering www article re rubbish lamp, and inviting maker to consider honouring the warranty
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aha yes i play the exact opposite game. "oh, the recycling bin is the big one? great, that's where everything goes."
mircea_popescu: all this "oh, we're all friends" bs is for the dogs. i ain't fiatola's friend.
mircea_popescu: somehow - they will pay. i ain't giving jack for free.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wonder if they have prisoners sift through rubbish in search of lamps yet.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597139 << quite this, actually. i never "recycle" in the sense of give for free. straight into kitchen trash it all goes. let them learn how to pay. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 23:46 asciilifeform: led lamp makers are scamming folx left and right in entirely nonsubtle ways (i just unscrewed 5th dead '20 year life!111' bulb this year, none were older than ~1y)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-05#1597130 << meanwhile low efficiency incandescents i bought 18 month ago in 3s because seemed like novelty item and will die in mere months STILL MARCH ON ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i snort derisively at you mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: oh i know how this knot is cut:
ben_vulpes: only one woman in my house i swears.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz he keeps saying things that go perfectly with it ? i dunno.