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mircea_popescu: talking to a girl doesn't result in an obligation to fuck her. or marry her. or raise her offspring. you're just talking.
mircea_popescu: you don't ~have to~ need me to read this three times instead of playing dungeoneers
mircea_popescu: so far you've learned that if you learn or don't learn it's not apparently a process within your control. which in itself needs some examination.
asciilifeform: previously i had nfi why he wouldn't simply pass on the goods as-is
mircea_popescu: so basically, the facts of the matter is, "at some point in the distant-er than month but closer than decade past", phf wanted to tell you some things and you took a hard line "just dump the thing", which he didn't want to do. then recently, having bought some parts and being less theoretically and more practically minded, you revised your stance ~in your own mind~ to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881964 and so on, but n ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well, so in simple terms, is 'your response was essentially "i'm not making any promises, i'm going to dump the whole thing on the internet"' a factual claim or isn't it ?
mircea_popescu: so now. is the case as you publicly present it, "phf has been not helping for year +" or is the case as he publicly presents it, "i tried to help a year ago but granularity didn't match and then he went on a campaign of fuming about whisperers ''in general'' transparently in reference to the particuylar case and i was stuck sitting and listening to it."
mircea_popescu: yes well i don't get drunk among open safes.
mircea_popescu: hasn't occured.
phf: asciilifeform: hence i said "but you won't take my word for it" yeah?
phf: asciilifeform: you suspect wrongly, but you won't take my word for it either.
asciilifeform suspects that if this weren't the case, i'd be posting from a 32GB bolix already
mircea_popescu: right. anyways, carrying on : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881922 << in the practical terms of doing things, the problem of unknowns stands that the man with a need and no chest doesn't know what to ask from the chest and the man with the ches and no need doesn't know what to send him. ☝︎
phf: mircea_popescu: i act out of character once, and it's to my disadvantage. i got the original point, i didn't at any point expect that there's a way to avoid it.
mircea_popescu: what, if i hadn't said "you know, you can't propose whatever tards trump republican interest" that'd have ended up baked into precedent ? and what, i'm supposed to not notice this ? i notice.
asciilifeform: phuctor was specifically conceived as a spiked, electrified cock to be driven deep into the arses of the 'we measured, won't say' people, whatever their nominal flag
phf: asciilifeform: if i followed your lead on this subject i would've had nothing. for all i know right now i still have nothing. i don't understand how you can't seem to connect that the answer to "how did you do it??" is in what i'm doing. if i'm not giving you anything, it's because i don't have it, or i don't know if i have it, which is something for me to evaluate.
asciilifeform: i won't even touch it 'now' even if given, have full hands tryin' (and not with 100% success) to stick to ~own~ 'pick date'
phf: there's no "docs", it's not some kind of mother lode of all things bolix. fwiw i went into as excited and with the same expectations you're imagining right now. there was a set of printed papers that primarily existed in pre-ivory days. they are mostly related to e.g. mechanical layout of the boards (the bulk of stuff was e.g. machining parameters of motherboards and cases, something i didn't even touch)
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 16:48 phf: well, if we don't, i'll see if i can get an unlock through corporate channels, and just use it as a one off machine
asciilifeform: observe that http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824987 didn't yield, but asciilifeform did eventually pop the thing. ☝︎
phf: i don't know when i've learned about the source, it's on public github, i don't know if i've even seen you mention your snap4 work, or at which point i've forgotten it.
phf: asciilifeform: ok, you can't possibly fucking hold this against me. that was your private project, that you never communicated in the logs.
phf: asciilifeform: i don't know what you're proposing, because you haven't proposed anything. i've proposed that i go through the dump, find all the relevant bits to your project, and communicate them to you. this is apparently unacceptable
mircea_popescu: i don't even care, past the (i'd have thought obvious) point whereby specific lines of argument simply can't be brought.
asciilifeform: if phf asks 'ok, but dun post the yellowdotted jpegs' i won't
asciilifeform: phf: i aint in particular hurry ( possibly unlike mircea_popescu , who wants to emphasize the imho important larger point ). i won't even have time to properly touch the thing until finished ffa. but plz consider what i suggested today.
asciilifeform: phf: and wasn't 'week ago', but year + 3mo ago, when i took delivery of the 2 raw ivories. ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf won't even be the 1st or only informant.
phf: i don't know how you missed my previous sentence, none of these people have "the dump", because there's no dump outside of the work i did.
asciilifeform: phf: note that you aren't being asked to send yer source to guillotine.
mircea_popescu: i don't happen to agree, is all, but this with no prejudice.
asciilifeform: phf: even material that doesn't ~directly~ relate to subj, can be of use, e.g. what they burned PALs with, etc
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881853 << i was the only person who showed up to do dull, manual job, when there was a need for it. i can't leak it because i promised not to. there will be no consequences for me, but i made a promise to multiple people, for whom there might be consequences, and it's not my place to evaluate whether that's true or not. that said that doesn't mean that i can't use knowledge this way acquired to help ☝︎
mircea_popescu: people born in prehistory don't have access to the future.
asciilifeform: there aren't, afaik, that many folx who go to arcades nao, other than from nostalgia for childhood
asciilifeform: but they won't touch 'stateful' PALs, ordinary bruteforce dunwork on these.
mircea_popescu: i suspect "we can fix your pals" would be mega business. if, of course, bolix prices weren't utter bs, and if, of course, anyone wanted them ~for an actual purpose~. neither of which...
asciilifeform: re dks, it wouldn't strongly surprise asciilifeform to learn that d00d finally read the l0gz, and got wind of what asciilifeform wants the PALs for, and now 'silent like partizan'
mircea_popescu: which probably explains why wasn't in 2016.
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't think we have nearly enough drama. a serious project would have more drama.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ie, do they object money was flowing into trump or that it was flowing out of trump ? << US folks set these things up and set the to keep warm. If the kids don't fuck him at the end of life thing gets filled and kid gets to draw a salary and "philanderanthropist" job title on their CV
mircea_popescu: didn't he own a tower in buenos aires and shit like that ? wtf million.
mircea_popescu: nfi, i don't watch this so closely. but on the strength of data presented...
asciilifeform: i can't picture a 'full suitcase' of d00d's, containing small change.
asciilifeform: doesn't say what total net from dekulakization, no
mircea_popescu: "nd resulted in the misuse of charitable assets for the benefit of Donald J. Trump ("Mr. ("Trump") Trump" and his personal, political and/or business interests. In sum, the Investigation revealed that the Foundation was little more than a checkbook for payments to not-for-profits from Mr. Trump or the Trump Organization." << i don't get it... so was it used for his benefit or at his cost ?
mircea_popescu: the fundamental difference between my harem, which is fun, and army service, which is and can be anything but fun, is that the girls ~don't~ know what all there is, bad or good, nor how to say it. not everything's a list, not everything's a procedure, the scary butts its head in almost daily. but what can you do.
mircea_popescu: it is definitely there. but then again you can't, practically, neither emit orally a Titem array nor forbid people to think of large arrays.
diana_coman: hm, I did not read it as a neutral symbol, hence my "" for it; but I don't really know how to convey more clearly that it's the opposite of actual smart (other than either explicitly noting that or using the "" that seems to fail to work)
mircea_popescu: "how about you don't have to keep an empty diff around and in exchange get a stated diff" is exactly like "how about you no longer have to check oil in car and instead have to hitch rides on highway"
a111: Logged on 2018-10-18 18:57 mircea_popescu: which i stand behind, ftr ; and it is also what informs the "if they had any sense -- they'd be here" stance. the fact that rando can't cut through fetlife to find the meat / can't cut through internet to find trilema / can't cut through femstate to find bitcoin / can't cut through pantsuitism to find republic etc specifically means that rando is dull, ie, not smart.
diana_coman: ftr I don't mean it in the sense that anyone in there got attacked; simply in the sense that it started from something and ended up in an entirely (if totally valid!) different place
mircea_popescu: http://ossasepia.com/2018/12/19/a-week-in-tmsr-26-november-2-december-2018/#selection-41.1060-41.1073 << lol, it didn't occur to me it went vicious.
asciilifeform: 'the Italian school of algebraic geometry, which produced extremely good and deep results for some 50 years, but then went to pieces. There are 3 key names here -- Castelnuovo, Enriques and Severi. C was earliest and was totally rigorous, a splendid mathematician. E came next and, as far as I know, never published anything that was false, though he openly acknowledged that some of his proofs didn't cover every possible case (there w
mircea_popescu: and to go back to the "thin english" thread : somehow it never occured to them the ~proper name~ for their ideology is "inconsequentialism". because english doesn't force such, which is why and how it's entirely inadherent to humour (in the odessa sense of term).
mircea_popescu: but hey. soviets didn't give up in 1981.
mircea_popescu: right ? all converges to the same idiocy, namely "mp doesn't seem to need to be concerned with consequences and so the path to be him is, you know, douchebaggin' it"
asciilifeform: their Official ideology, near as i can tell, is 'budgets are for the lesser mortals who can't print green'
mircea_popescu: can't be arsed to dig him up. usual squarejaw moron.
asciilifeform: i'd be at least mildly surprised if i learned today that the place hasn't yet been bulldozed and converted to microshit; but all kindsa miracles are possible, e.g. usg rocket command still runs on 100% dec vax and no plans to stop 'till 2050' Officially
BingoBoingo: And it isn't like the Republic lacks people who could conveniently shit in his air conditioner
asciilifeform: so far i can't even seem to convince phf to post that magic doc.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> well, whoopdeedoo... if instead of letting the ants eat your dumb asses you ate the ants, it'd be the other way. and until it isn't the other way, it'll keep being this way, grand discovery this. << This is. I'm setting up mp-wp for a lead danielpbarron directed to us.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881556 << there may be a way to use the floor(2^k / M) ~quotient~ to determine the E . but i'ma leave this alone until end of series, it won't make a superlinear diff in the runtime ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, can't say i found anything.
mircea_popescu: well, whoopdeedoo... if instead of letting the ants eat your dumb asses you ate the ants, it'd be the other way. and until it isn't the other way, it'll keep being this way, grand discovery this.
danielpbarron: that's what i said, remove it from the feed in here. i'm not arguing to keep it showing up where it isn't wanted
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881489 << then, logically, it belongs read by the feedbot of the channel of your church. just because the http://trilema.com/2014/the-death-of-taxes/#selection-185.0-185.1138 problem doesn't mean you get to assuage your evident awareness of what a shithead your bf is by hanging out with the cool chicks and pretending to some sort of comunion. go, get the tards off the mud they've been packin ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: that also aside, it's not a matter of " his imperative doesn't align with that of all the rest of the republic ". this is like saying "the medicine of african shamans doesn't allign with the post-pasteur views". not a matter of "not allign", a matter of "that false '''imperative''' has been floating about to 0 effect for three thousand years ; this actual imperative is manifestly more powerful."
danielpbarron: i can't give a rational answer. every man's religion is right in his own eyes
mircea_popescu: i thought you were muxing because didn't like the additions for some reason
mircea_popescu: Wouldn't it be (very marginally) cheaper to simply do what you did before, ie Index := W_Mux(b, Index, W_ZeroP(W)); ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was going to post on http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2822 ; but i'm not about to do gymnastics for it. note that i don't ask you to genuflect before commenting on trilema!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so far i entirely agree you can't use montgomery for your purpose.
mircea_popescu: (and the fact that nobody asked "which, the pole or the prussian" kinda is exactly what i'm talking about. what the fuck, we're going to discuss things we don't know about, meh)
asciilifeform: the hasids at least weren't wanking in eng
mircea_popescu: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1785123/ << i truly recommend any who hasn't seen this thing try for fifteen minutes. it's worth it just for the sheer wtf.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck am i going to be interested by a three-centuries-later, three-hundred-books-unread rehash of a ~minor~ ~peasant~ movement ?! what next, we're going to sit around wondering in fascination at pete_d's accomplishments ? hory shit, some guy got married and carefully didn't piss off the in-laws his whole life. NEVER HEAR THAT STORY BEFORE PLOX TELL ME MORE!
mircea_popescu: consider the illustrative example of how the germans inhabiting north america ended up thinking they're "english" : the english were losing badly their war with the dutch, at the time the republic. so they decided -- the elite, that is -- to make the dutch an offer they couldn't refuse : behead the (catholic) king, import william, prince of orange-nassau as the new english king. thereby england gets a ruling class and the dut
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform moreover it makes a fucking difference WHO speaks english. which is a readily lost point. there's an episode in seinfeld (when george converts to "latvian" orthodoxy) including a soundbyte from old jewish woman with strong yidish accent, "when you die, you die. you don't go anywhere."
asciilifeform: ( the jesuits baked. and it's a riot. when jp was pried open in 19th c, the euros found some 'christians', promptly barfed -- the cleanup job shogunate did wasn't quite 100%.)
mircea_popescu: (and yes, /me also tuned out just about when the quotes started. for one thing because i couldn't give less of a shit about the english version of jewish texts, i can read the originals and i can't stand anglotardation)
mircea_popescu: and, while at it : the aferations of "metaphysics", specifically regarding the matter in terms of "oh, mp is so lost in the world he can't see the things beyond the world" is so much infantile aferant bullshit. be it "robo-hitlers" or "gods" or whatever other nonsense, the important property of things "beyond" the world and "above" the world and "after" the world and "ultimate" and so on is that they are not.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 22:13 danielpbarron: that wouldn't be the worst thing
mircea_popescu: n't give a damn about how you feel.
mircea_popescu: d in the process his life and himself. because no, as tempting as the theory is, humans can't generally manage to destroy their reputations but survive in body or mind.
asciilifeform: ( apparently it isn't merely plug an' fughet, gotta config it to pretend to be crapple disk, and then will need coupla bolix partitions also.. )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 11:41 phf: asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure he doesn't have PAL sources in digital form, and if he does, i think it's purely accidental i.e. there are source files on some tape or some drive, but i don't think he'll be able to find them from memory
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881331 << i think danielpbarron is pushing transcendental imperative; though, and as per some of the long ago threads on subject of traditional societies, i will guess it is mostly a pose on his part. his imperative doesn't align with that of all the rest of the republic members, so it is hard to relate to on substance, but in form i find it entertaining: what happens if you confront modern christian ☝︎
phf: asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure he doesn't have PAL sources in digital form, and if he does, i think it's purely accidental i.e. there are source files on some tape or some drive, but i don't think he'll be able to find them from memory ☟︎
feedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2018/i-didnt-warn-you-for-the-scripture/ << Daniel P. Barron -- I didn't warn you for the scripture.
asciilifeform: haven't seen; will put on list
mircea_popescu: because if it didn't, you understand, we'd have the problems of waterbugs
mircea_popescu: " There is an ad hoc demonstration of a new product, an AT&T "secure" phone, supposedly the first conversation-scrambler that's as simple to use as a standard-issue phone." << the kanzure mickey mouse club still doing this btw.
mircea_popescu: it's always funny (for he who, being "old af" isn't born yesterday) just how 100% the "corporate success" bla bla is copied off "oh, those marginal guys whom http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809349 " ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-16 21:11 mircea_popescu: a blog doesn't fucking need! at all!) and so on all come at a cost. which cost you strictly and unmitigatably can not afford in web-facing production environments, period and full stop.
mircea_popescu: a blog doesn't fucking need! at all!) and so on all come at a cost. which cost you strictly and unmitigatably can not afford in web-facing production environments, period and full stop. ☟︎
diana_coman hasn't yet read the Post Malone thing
diana_coman: this is not to say that any week would take the same, as I don't expect it would