log☇︎
7500+ entries in 0.615s
decimation: usg's sub-agents are continuing a fight against anything usual: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-dc-a-12-year-old-piano-prodigy-is-treated-as-a-truant-instead-of-a-star-student/2014/09/08/58962746-3727-11e4-bdfb-de4104544a37_story.html
kakobrekla: when in doubt, blame the usg?
BingoBoingo: For all we know the USG might take a break from shorting BTC and send the Euro under the dollar tomorrow by telling Germany it lost their gold.
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Maybe USG got an MPEx account just to fuck with you?
jurov: stan apparently thinks ussr kept tejh us in check. now they're gone, usg destroys everything
asciilifeform: doubt that there is anyone in usg that is empowered to use garotte << apparently they prefer limpet mines on auto and plane fuel tanks. perhaps they're also short on these ?
decimation: even by usg standards
decimation: asciilifeform: I doubt that there is anyone in usg that is empowered to use garotte wire within the us
asciilifeform: it is particularly entertaining, at least in limited dose, to read people whine about usg - the same people in whose heads it lives, of whom it is made in fact.
asciilifeform: (why usg needs pretext? has own internal rituals.)
asciilifeform: this generally works if opponent lives in a house usg has a habit, or otherwise might like, to set on fire - and could use pretext.
decimation: asciilifeform: as a Christian I find these 'godless anarcho-whatevers' to be amusing because they want to make usg into their god
asciilifeform: sometimes it's a 'respect my rights!11! or usg will set your house on fire.'
asciilifeform: usg does not have the strength or will to conquer - it merely destroys
asciilifeform: except that the modern ukrs aren't a resurrected 'Res Publica Polonia' - they're a cheap muppet of usg.
asciilifeform: everybody focuses on, e.g., petro-war, when looking for reason for usg bleeding to the bone in effort to undermine russia
asciilifeform: the worst thing for a totalitarian reich (like usg and its 'international kommunity' muppet theatre) is - the existence of a 'pepsi' alternative.
asciilifeform: decimation: it is necessary to understand why usg must do what it does. as in a 'wild west' film, 'ain't room enough in this town for the both of us'
asciilifeform: decimation: except that 'crazy islam' is an animal of which usg is a studious gamekeeper.
decimation: Re: Thiel working with usg << I can't imagine anyone running a 'bank' or 'bank-like' service and not being a spy for usg, it's the law yo
decimation: not that it really matters anyway, because their production is subsidized by the prc, and the purchaser is subsidized by usg
asciilifeform: usg caught an alley cat, tamed, and implanted a listening device, then released (in moscow, i think)
mircea_popescu: usg makes mechanical spy rat, person catches it because well, it doesn't properly batallion
asciilifeform: in usg.
asciilifeform: document concerns usg circa 1947-1954.
mircea_popescu: the notion that anything like the present usg survives not defeat in the field, but merely an unfavourable if momentary turn of events is pushing it into sf.
asciilifeform: there is not, afaik, a 'slut kolkhoz' maintained by usg...
asciilifeform: rich people will pick a eager young slut's rent << quid pro quo, 'enjo kosai', etc. - not much like usg 'welfare'
decimation: the permanent bureaucrats who run usg are famous for this attitude
decimation: asciilifeform: I thought that the usg signed stuff with rsa certs generally
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: every usg fiefdom, large and small, has own fake pgp.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to give the usg the false impression that its idiocy may work ?
asciilifeform: 'There once was a cyber attack; / The Chinese our network did hack. / Since arguably / Cyber’s WMD / Do you think we should nuke them right back?' << actual example from usg's limerick contest. (http://cryptome.org/2014/09/natsec-thesis.pdf)
decimation: apparently mandatory purchasing from the blind became mandatory under FDR! This revision of USG has grown long in the tooth.
decimation: asciilifeform: I think all USG pens are made by the blind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skilcraft
asciilifeform: 'The test bed aircraft (74-2065) was ready for its first test flight on September 18, 1980, just three weeks after the project was initiated.' <<< picture modern usg doing anything whatsoever on this schedule.
decimation: usg tried to modify a c-130 to land inside the Tehran soccer stadium to rescue the Iran hostages https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXfK4ypirI
mircea_popescu: <decimation> The most amusing thing about this story is the simple faith that Bob Builder expresses in USG: “You could tell the jets were extremely well-equipped << dunno if you've seen "the kite runner" ?
decimation: The most amusing thing about this story is the simple faith that Bob Builder expresses in USG: “You could tell the jets were extremely well-equipped and in control of the situation,” he said. “We obviously paid close attention, but at no time did we think we were in danger. I think the jets could have controlled where and when it went down."
decimation: supposedly the constitution forbids forcing citizens to quarter troops, but apparently giving up their livelihoods and ruining their vacations so usg can have a security part is 'ok for them'
decimation: asciilifeform: but the trouble is that instead of conjuring actual heirloom objects, the usg method is to piss away the money on 'airlifting' an SUV from DC to New England
decimation: Yeah I do see how that throws a wrench in the model. Here's a real-world example: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2014/08/09/obama-and-new-england-aviation-businesses-start-their-vacation/ << greenspun details how Obama travels with an enormous entourage, which usg can't afford - this fact doesn't occur to anyone 'in the loop'
asciilifeform: this is about microshit and usg (but i repeat myself) finally making some headway in dealing with the 'final solution' to the escapees from wintel 'problem.'
nubbins`: the more usg undesirables you turn away, the more bulbs i want to buy from you
mircea_popescu: it needs to be exactly the opposite : close down the shop if they fail to force the employees into slavery, if they defraud customers or if they turn away usg undesirables.
mircea_popescu: the balance needs to fucking change. currently they close down shops if they force the employees into slavery, if they defraud customers, and if they fail to turn away usg undesirables.
mircea_popescu: it contains no judge (not even one of those non-judge "magistrate" usg agents)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: plus it isn't clear that paying the 'legit' fees gets you anything in the long run. who's gonna force usg to honour the cancellations when they decide not to? the devil ? << this is the most germane point. i'd rather pay power Y to cancel my citizenship with power X than power X itself.
asciilifeform: escaping from usg today to just about anywhere is more like - escaping to poland in '39.
asciilifeform: 'escape' means there's a missile battery (or, at the threadbare minimum, 24/7 death squad) standing between usg and you. ☟︎
asciilifeform: correct. legal is whatever the present-day whim of usg is.
asciilifeform: plus it isn't clear that paying the 'legit' fees gets you anything in the long run. who's gonna force usg to honour the cancellations when they decide not to? the devil ?
asciilifeform: this story concerned more than a quarrel between a weirdo chemist and the whole of usg/nato 'physics'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: (how to know that schwartz (or taleb, or...) collects 'prize' rather than usg stooge with a shannonizer and irc connection - exercise for alert reader.) <<< if you recall something sort-of like that was tried, except this "major prize" approach is flawed as you explain. so, better version was tried :)
asciilifeform: decimation: reward with status - get usg academics.
asciilifeform: usg 'science' is - scar tissue.
asciilifeform: (how to know that schwartz (or taleb, or...) collects 'prize' rather than usg stooge with a shannonizer and irc connection - exercise for alert reader.)
decimation: yeah this connects with our discussion the other day about the collapse of the ussr being terrible for usg
asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: no need to be a con man in the usual sense to acquiesce to usg SOP.
asciilifeform: but the folks involved with 'emdrive' have a rich history of fraud (usg and principals both)
mircea_popescu: the usg collapsing doesn't make it harder.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'usg' in that context also includes all 'decay daughters' thereof
mircea_popescu: decimation: asciilifeform: unfortunately if the "from whom" is usg in its many forms, the answer is largely: nowhere << bs lol.
cazalla: would it be a safe bet the reason newegg and other sites offer a discount when using bitcoin is that it's easy means of coin for usg? they can print as much $ to give discounts and the coin flows from customers -> newegg -> bitpay -> usg?
decimation: one wonders about the total sum of $ that usg has spent just this year searching enemies of the people
decimation: asciilifeform: usg nuclear bombing ships: yeah there's the famous 'nuclear attack on fleet' bomb series at the bikini atoll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv9yS0tRFhI
asciilifeform: usg also had, in that period, a fixation with gigantic naval battles
decimation: s/use/usg/
decimation: asciilifeform: unfortunately if the "from whom" is usg in its many forms, the answer is largely: nowhere
decimation: What has happened to banking in the US is parallel to the "substitution calculations" done by usg for inflation - ie a ground beef patty with filler is the same as a well-cooked steak.
ben_vulpes: does anyone have a link to the lawsuit by the guy who sued the usg for the gold they 'borrowed'?
decimation: like haarp, the ussr provided a ready excuse for all kinds of usg spending
asciilifeform: usg is learning the cost of letting its cherished frienemy pop
decimation: asciilifeform: but microsoft only needed apple to save themselves from usg's monopoly busting agencies
decimation: usg does much to encourage this notion among the masses
decimation: one wonders about the brain-damaged minions employed by usg to oversee such things
BingoBoingo: decimation> yes, it's useful anyway. By that definition, the usg 'anti-communists' I mentioned above are quite simply socialists with a beef against the soviets << I dunno any other explanation for Patton's political positions.
decimation: yes, it's useful anyway. By that definition, the usg 'anti-communists' I mentioned above are quite simply socialists with a beef against the soviets
decimation: BingoBoingo: agreed. The same "anti-"communists now hate Putin because he represents everything they hated about Soviet fascism. This is why usg has such an irrational policy vis-a-vie Russia
decimation: USG doesn't allow gov't employees to have free meals or more than $20 per year in gifts from potential 'business' contacts
decimation: the latest deal is 'roth' - the deal being that if you pay taxes now, usg promises never to tax your earnings on that money again
decimation: asciilifeform: I find it amusing that folks with retirement accounts work so hard to 'shelter' them from taxation under the latest rules, as if usg would allow one to accumulate wealth without taking it
decimation: asciilifeform: it's amusing to what degree folks are willing to comply with plainly idiotic usg regulations
decimation: mircea_popescu: Here's my confusion. Yarvin would call a USG-funded professor a "brahmin", but said professor is a parasite on society, in a manner that is much more harmful than your average urban poor folk.
decimation: USG isn't pleased with flying robots either
asciilifeform: i suppose everyone here knows what the word 'community' means to a usg muppet
mircea_popescu: this is how much teh usg dimwit in charge of this project comprehends of these matters. fuckwit actually imagined that "the community" is stupid enough and the stupid enough part relevant enough to go for shit like this because... it says "the community" in it.
mircea_popescu: he's not being tone deaf. teh usg wants to be able to take over bitcoin, is all.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: once again, the real reason is that the measures required to get the locals to work for you would be forbidden by usg << not so. the locals are just shitty stock.
decimation: mircea_popescu: if they had balls + enough money to purchase decent defenses, USG wouldn't be able to do much
decimation: asciilifeform: once again, the real reason is that the measures required to get the locals to work for you would be forbidden by usg
decimation: right, this implies that usg is directly responsible for the derpage worldwide
decimation: there isn't a spot on the globe that can be colonized without usg's tacit permission
asciilifeform: decimation: you answered the question. usg owns it.
decimation: I suppose the immediate response of USG would be to crush such a project for being racis, etc
mircea_popescu: with the usg at the helm it really didn't belong anywhere near the common linux newb.
mircea_popescu: consider the simple fact that any legal proceeding could be extended anywhere between six and ninety weeks by an endless parade of character evidence showing usg agents lieing, being required to lie, etc etc.
mircea_popescu: you know it's untruthfully because it's a usg agent.
mircea_popescu: how about everyone stops sending the likes of the usg bureaucracy to prison, too!
ben_vulpes: hm, what's that magnet company the usg's trying to put out of business?