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herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: not particularly...is this one of those trick questions where you psychologically evluate my expertise as a player with a simple one liner?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: As far as the tournament you spec'd goes my only credited loss is to namworld.
herbijudlestoids: from a development perspective? as in unusable to modify/update the code?
asciilifeform: birthing a parsimonious implementation of something (i.e. one that can actually be understood) is not necessarily the same as the student pissing contest of 'write the shortest hello world for ms-dos in asm'
asciilifeform: and never as a substitute for mechanics.
asciilifeform: 'natural language' only has a place here as a teaching aid.
mircea_popescu: basically a pull rather than a push for now because we aren't yet as formalised
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Well, in Bitcoin polite is neither asking now answering exaclty how much BTC one holds. If you must ask, Roughly or Publically how much BTC do you hold is on the line of acceptable. As far as answering though even saying "I hold between zero and inside your mom right now BTC" is still polite.
mike_c: fpga that did blockchain parsing would completely ignore tx malleabiality (as it should). PEP would tell you WHY you are ignoring it, so when you are writing custom shit you don't mess it up.
BingoBoingo: The Gox, if they are reliable narrators, problem is they rely on txid as a primary key in their databases. txid makes a poor primary key
MisterE: a couple breakthroughs such as hiphop and the hip hop vm jit compiler saved their ass by like weeks
BingoBoingo: MisterE: Seems if they are are honest more of a problem of picking the wrong values to use as database primary keys.
B007_: I'm hungry as fuck
BingoBoingo: So long as the coins are one's personal coins
benkay: not even the part where you guarantee their security yourself as the buying party.
BingoBoingo: Hell, even a hairball of K&R C could almost pass muster as a spec
benkay: it's a formal definition of bitcoin, as opposed to the ad-hoc cpp hairball-as-canonical-thinger
Azelphur: Python programmer as day job, can confirm.
mircea_popescu: decimation as a point of strategy, the would-be dev team power ranges may be foolish, but they're useful fools.
BingoBoingo: As I understand the narrative, this is a n00bier database problem than 11 months ago.
BingoBoingo: At least not as I understand problem and BTC code
mircea_popescu: it'd be "private", as in romanian govt gives to some random third party the place and gets in exchange some nothing at all.
asciilifeform: "To this day pots of late-Roman gold are periodically dug up in England during excavations of Roman villas; the residents of these villas were unable to derive any benefit from their hoards as their empire collapsed and the Dark Age closed in around them." (further from herr Orlov)
mircea_popescu: (for instance, the leu is worth in dollars/euros/whatever else exactly as much as romania says it is worth)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, that depends. 11 months ago there was a ridiculously central database derpocolypse. Nao there is a more subtle derpocolypse that doesn't seem as critical, but happens to hammer the fiat/BTC interface players hard while actual BTC cared about working too much to make those mistakes.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo inasmuch as it's mostly a reddit driven "omg we're retarded" panic, i doubt anyhing at all.
asciilifeform: ifetimes some tin-pot pseudo-nationalist leader will print up ugly slips of paper with pictures of dead people, Masonic symbols and big numbers, and attempt to charge people for using them as a medium of exchange in all transactions, and your great-grandchildren need to know, from an early age, that it is a scam. It is an official scvam, backed up by the threat of violence, but it is still a scam." ☟︎
asciilifeform: "... And so, you too should hold on to a few dollar, or euro, or ruble or yuan notes, in the highest denominations available at the time they all become worthless, as a keepsake. Then you will be able to show them to your great-grandchildren and say, 'Can you imagine, this ugly piece of paper was once a prized possession!' And your great-grandchildren will no doubt think that you are a little bit senile, but th
asciilifeform: -ruble note, which seemed like a lot of money to me at the time, and was very surprised to hear that it was completely worthless and that I could take one and use it as a bookmark (which I did). It was not until the 1990s that Russia again issued a note in that denomination, which likewise became worthless soon after it was printed."
decimation: As Mr. Yarvin points out, post-fiat dollars will still have some value as "federal brownie points"
decimation: ascii, it would seem foolish to have an RFID with no challenge; as you point out it would make carding even simpler
mircea_popescu: we thought you were butthurt as a fucken interneteer
herbijudlestoids: i been sick as a fucken dog
pankkake: "Serge Humpich is a person who discovered a serious flaw in the Carte Bleue system used in France for credit cards. He was convicted in 2000 to a ten months suspended sentence. He was 36 at the time, and lost his job as a result of the case."
asciilifeform: (i could draw a picture of why, but i'll leave it as an exercise for the alert reader.)
asciilifeform: incidentally, if the avaricious idiots move everybody to RFID cards sans crypto challenge/response (as appears to be the plan) - every ATM becomes a btc-ATM. ☟︎
asciilifeform: yeah, it would be quite surprising if 'amazon' were reamed to the same depth as a corner shop.
asciilifeform: 'carding' as we know it is actually a creature of u.s. and british banks. which profit from it. ☟︎
Shakespeare: pankkake if you write that code to spit out total current ATC, i can add it to the home page... assuming it's as simple as that
Shakespeare: as part of listing requirements
benkay: that list is better regarded as "how much money this ccoin has sucked out of fiat"
deadweasel: i've marked every havelock email ever as spam, yet it still shows up.
pankkake: yup Monaco does not pay the 75% tax: http://www.lefigaro.fr/sport-business/2013/12/13/20006-20131213ARTFIG00394-l-as-monaco-n-echappera-pas-a-la-taxe-a-75.php
BingoBoingo: jurov: As a courtesy I refer to American football as handegg
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Hire an alternate to identify as pankkake. Look for College footballers and handeggers who missed the cutoff to go pro.
mircea_popescu: just so happens that stuff seeming soft can in fact be as hard as coffin nails, somewhere in there.
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't suppose you're liable to go around deciding to beat people because "they're on your turf" and obviously they seem like townfolk so perhaps they're not quite as hard as all that.
Shakespeare: Did you know I share the same birthday as Tony Danza and Shirley Temple?
pankkake: at least for the time being, as it's new
pankkake: as in more dangerous? ok. but then forum pr could be better…
deadweasel: well, that's the majority of the worlds opinion, as most don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
mircea_popescu: as if somehow the entire world is this proving ground for impudent cocklets and everyone is their peer.
pankkake: <minerpart> I've offered to meet him at any railway station in France as I'm southern England. He's a pussy, he wont meet me. A sad little prick with a big internet presence. You know what that means - he's never fucked a girl. Probably followed a few home though then gone home and jerked himself off.
gribble: Nick 'diametric', with hostmask 'diametric!~diametric@2604:3400:dc1:43:216:3eff:fe27:bf9d', is identified as user 'diametric', with GPG key id BDD47433133081CF, key fingerprint 0789CB4F508B384EB74CEFBFBDD47433133081CF, and bitcoin address None
benkay: hey that's two in as many days
mircea_popescu: to rob a bank via bomb device with artsy cane gun, so as to have enough funds to pay for the weird character's murder of the woman;s father
mircea_popescu: highschool drop-out that's been working for 30 years as a pizza delivery boy
mircea_popescu: but no, originally there were ~60k as a high point cca 2011
ThickAsThieves: full text for the item is "Bitcoin will continue to attract more people as a store of value and a speculative investment asset. I predict that the value of Bitcoin still has the potential to double by the same time next year. But I believe it will have a hard time becoming mainstream as a currency, due to its expected continued volatility amidst regulation authorities and governments
asciilifeform: not as a currency << as a coffee warmer?
ThickAsThieves: 4. Bitcoin will continue to gain ground (but not as a currency)
asciilifeform: (cards, as you can probably guess, are for the mainboard breadboard...)
mircea_popescu: afaik they haven't yet decided whether they wish to have a future as the irc network where bitcoin happens or would rather not have any future at all.
jurov: ah so. but it's the same with pgp. if you swet expiry date as they recommend
pankkake: another feature is signing other's keys. basically, serves as identity verification
benkay: maybe poorly, but nowhere near as poorly as those in the wild for btc message signing.
asciilifeform: as observed by MP and others.
ThickAsThieves: <pankkake> I was thinking of creating a service for that. pay X coins to create an identity that will be allowed without captchas on any compatible website ---- this falls under same premise as me wanting the WoT to be user/service friendly
asciilifeform: one could imagine a 'decentralized conference'. send ascii chars as low-bytes of TX to addr A.
ThickAsThieves: "Has anyone thought about holding a decentralized conference as well? "
benkay: ha shit so in this case bitbet could be used as a bounty system
midnightmagic: benkay: I agree. :-( The complete collected writing of Satoshi I think would provide incredible insight overall just as simple reading material. Unfortunately since bitcointalk edits history enormously, the history will likely never be complete.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo if you reduce the search to "satoshi" you find 2x as many hits
moiety: BingoBoingo: i know you said to do this months ago too.... but im vanitying as we speak! :)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Why not? Shouldn't be anywhere near as bad as trying to get a useful transcript out of that NYDFS abortion.
mircea_popescu: just as good...
asciilifeform: that, or GRU lives, and it's #1 beautifully masquerading as #2.
asciilifeform: toy chopper + several ir bolometers (as used in burglar alarms.)
asciilifeform: as we will probably learn one day
mircea_popescu: and besides... the plane is not as hard to hit as a barn
mircea_popescu: not as skilled as someone firing the laser.
mircea_popescu: as far as my memory serves those things do customarily bridge a half mile gap
mircea_popescu: one could just as well fire an anti-tank missile.
asciilifeform: moiety: 'when used as prescribed,' beam lives in the box.
moiety: it weighs the same as me!!!!
benkay: mircea_popescu, linking a USG publication as a source of useful numbers?! will miracles never cease...
asciilifeform: perhaps it lets them get out of a scheduled 'piss test' as well.
jurov: as i say, i do have some experience. it wasn't kilometer, but also the power was much smaller
mircea_popescu: that's almost as bad as an ugly vinyl dress on a sunny day
mircea_popescu: it is six feet wide and magically 3600000 times as energetic
mike_c: maybe that should be it. as verified by coinmarketcap. then if it never gets listed, it resolves as no
jurov: you are not so cool as vexual
mike_c: as did BingoBoingo
nubbins`: thye had frizzle fry and brown album there as well
jurov: yes. but as one can't withdraw from there until all deposits get confirmed
TomServo: ThickAsThieves | 1Enjoy1C4bYBr3tN4sMKxvvJDqG8NkdR4Z is sending random dust to me << I'm seeing that as well, a couple from 1Sochi too
KRS1: so like this mallebility problem, manifesting as ddos now but its not ddos it seems it could be coming from the network itself.
ThickAsThieves: “With fixed supply, bitcoin’s deflationary bias should also be clear. That quality serves owners well when exchanging into foreign currency, but it would be onerous for any economy operating with it as legal tender. Indeed Weimar Germany was unpleasant, but so was the Great Depression.”
davout: i'll add ATC to bitcoin-central, just as a troll to litecoiners
nubbins`: "I choose ... ATC as well, a school, a place where I can screw up and have a do-over. As someone well aware that he is absolutely not qualified to host yet another Bitcoin exchange or other high-value, high-risk site, ATC seems a fine lab environment to write code around a tiny blockchain, create wallets, sites, services"