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nubbins`: jurov
i wouldn't either;
i don't believe B was from another bet
nubbins`: just as long as we're all on the same page here that the 17 btc is fraudulent and mp is refusing to admit his fraud,
i don't really have anything else to add, aside from shredding the ridiculous rebuttals put forth so far
nubbins`:
don't conflate strong feelings with rage,
i'm having a great day :)
trinque:
I don't get these shots at mod6; he wrote up a fine guide to building a gentoo...
nubbins`: PeterL
i don't know how much of the logs you've read, but it's mostly derps
nubbins`: adlai
i don't think that mixing bets like salad paints a prettier picture.
nubbins`: asciilifeform if
i send $7,000 cash in the mail,
i don't let the post office choose the delivery standard
nubbins`: PeterL
i don't think you understand how this place works
gribble:
don't like fraud? shut the fuck up or
i'll vastly inflate expenses
nubbins`: ;;echo
don't like fraud? shut the fuck up or
i'll vastly inflate expenses
nubbins`: <+hanbot>you fucked that up, what, you figure more spewing is the answer? << you
don't seem to get that me spelling the entire thing out again in long form is zero on my list of priorities, but
i appreciate you switch-hitting for mp because it'd really look silly if he responded himself
danielpbarron: if what
i'm a part of isn't as big as my estimation,
I don't care for bitcoin anyway. So whatever.
nubbins`: danielpbarron
don't pretend to assume you know how many glass cannons
i have
nubbins`: look:
i receive A1 when it's first broadcast,
i hold onto it but
i DON'T RELAY IT because my backlog is too big.
punkman: gotta explain why the 0fee tx wasn't visible in anyone's mempool for days, although
I don't know how exactly mp examined the mempools and of which nodes he was connecting to
mircea_popescu: whatever. keep your ideas,
i don't want them nor do they carry any value.
danielpbarron:
i don't see how a "mempool flood" should effect a high priority transaction.. or was the flooder sophisticated enough to have created all the inputs long ago so that they too would be high priority?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo
i must confess
i don't get the latest qntra. wut ?
mircea_popescu:
i don't expect this realisation to be within common reach.
nubbins`: alf,
i don't think you quite understand how few shittier countries exist than the one you're in
mircea_popescu:
i don't even recall how many we ended up distributing, was it like 10% ? 25% ? 1% ?
mircea_popescu: this particular system, for instance,
i've been running for a while now on a half dozen long etc hosts,
i don't even notice.
mircea_popescu: and sure, you can blame the miners. the problem is - the design sort-of forced this endgame upon them.
i doubt most of the chinese even understand ~what went wrong~, in the very faint general, letalone in this specific ~what we did wrong~. by the chinese bible they were being very reasonable and
i just
don't understand how the world works. ach ach my dear fellow mp.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422884 << well, the privacy risks aren't exactly dubious in that
i don't atm see how ring signatures would prevent miner cartel from attacking bitbet. except, of course, if predicated on "miners are lazy and dumb". which is true - until they aren't. much like ants are lazy and dumb, until they get into the fridge, at which point they'll dumbly&lazily never want to leave.
☝︎ fluffypony:
I don't think there was a question of whether or not he would come
mircea_popescu: kinda what
i was going to say next, "
don't worry too much, things have a way of sorting themselves out"
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> perhaps
i had everything backwards << which is exactly my metapoint here. for as long as such can occur, it is CLEAR we
don't have the perimeter of this thing yet.
jurov: yes this needs some examples and
i don't have it
jurov:
i don't argue to keep current algo!
jurov: it will be done some day in shivascheme, maybe even by me, but
I don't seehow to keep good (or predictable) memory usage
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the way my intel works is that
i don't give a shit about the source data,
i read summaries of summaries. but god fucking help you if
i go for a endpoint-to-endpoint spot check and the whole conduit isn't there.
mircea_popescu: no, because
i don't read chinese, nor actually care punctually.
i just get (and care about) synthetic reports.
mircea_popescu:
i don't think any human being in the history of this "man-woman family" idiocy has EVER heard "sure dad, go ahead, it's your money anyway"
mircea_popescu: shinohai
i don't get it, person should go through 1-200ish gallons of water a year, every year. what's the problem there ?
davout: tbh
i don't know, what
i know is that there won't be any bullshit like "oh btw, withdrawals on chain [A|B] are deprecated"
mircea_popescu:
i don't recall when's the last time a democrat was so culturally inept. maybe carter.
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 08:53:24; ben_vulpes: and
i don't want any more fucking scultors enough people already look at sera and say "oh herp derp
i can make shapes with plate steel"
sturles: Yes, and
I don't think this is much more complex than requiring each utxo to be in a different block than the one it is spent from.
mircea_popescu:
i don't recall when this "3 day" thing got introduced, but longer than coupla years ago
i think.
sturles: OK.
I don't know anything about the tx in question. How old were the inputs?
sturles:
I don't have a time limit.
sturles:
I don't keep them all. Only the ones with the highest priority.-
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 08:53:24; ben_vulpes: and
i don't want any more fucking scultors enough people already look at sera and say "oh herp derp
i can make shapes with plate steel"
ben_vulpes: and
i don't want any more fucking scultors enough people already look at sera and say "oh herp derp
i can make shapes with plate steel"
☟︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 17:21:53; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
i've been thinking about it, but
i don't think this is actually resolvable. as it happens - the "magically working network - we
don't know how it works" thing is much more appealing to the average joe than you know, "this is my node.
i will defend it with my life". what life, are you kidding, got sitcoms to watch and shit.
mircea_popescu:
i don't want a fucking big-brother-bitcoin-from-china-san to pray to.
punkman:
I don't think this experiment is worth, say ~6 months of profits, but that's strictly the BB's board discretion.
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 18:40:06; punkman:
I don't think "working" protocol means being able to assume signed and broadcasted tx has been forgotten and won't come back to bite you in the ass. What's in who's mempool is unknowable.
punkman:
I don't think "working" protocol means being able to assume signed and broadcasted tx has been forgotten and won't come back to bite you in the ass. What's in who's mempool is unknowable.
☟︎ jurov: so far
i don't remember it happen
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
i've been thinking about it, but
i don't think this is actually resolvable. as it happens - the "magically working network - we
don't know how it works" thing is much more appealing to the average joe than you know, "this is my node.
i will defend it with my life". what life, are you kidding, got sitcoms to watch and shit.
☟︎ PeterL:
I don't see a problem, you signed two transactions and they both were mined, where is the problem?
mircea_popescu: whether
i am surprised or not is not included in this discussion.
i don't recall saying
i was surprised, nor does over-the-lan telepathy historically work. moreover, my own state is deeply irrelevant : the problem is there, and it's grinning at you.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla> one thing that goes through my mind is that trb/mps << this is true, but let me clarify that An set of txn were broadcast through a set of > 1k distinct peers. most of which
i don't regard as peers in any sense, but nevertheless they did get to hear about them from my own nodes.
jurov: BingoBoingo: In my reports
I prefer to have duplicate numbers instead of omitting, so that
I'm sure
I don't forget something.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty much.
i don't see what else is there. this is the fabled hour of reckoning, best
i can tell
trinque:
I don't mind getting ya rsync, will have to be this evening
phf: ben_vulpes:
i don't ever touch dependencies, so 40s for a full rebuilt
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu:
I don't even know what people are revolting about anymore. It's like watching #occupy wall street with BTC
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2016 09:15:43; ben_vulpes: probably more crowded than anything mircea_popescu engages in willingly, and
i don't even like it.
SuchWow:
i certainly
don't claim that there was any logic to the decision, but if you've seen #freenode lately, and ANNs, a lot has changed around here recently
SuchWow: [08:49:16] <SuchWow> (
i won't pretend to act like
i know you because,
i don't)
ben_vulpes: probably more crowded than anything mircea_popescu engages in willingly, and
i don't even like it.
☟︎ SuchWow: yeah pre-sale woulda been nice, but
i don't blame myself one bit for not buying the hype
SuchWow: cazalla: that's reasonable.
i don't really either, it's just that it's been hard to NOT hear about that one over the last year
cazalla: SuchWow,
i don't really follow altcoins, so many of them, so many failures, bitcoin remains #1 despite all the 2.0 shit that has been promised to topple it all these years
ben_vulpes: yeah,
i saw the second go through, but
i don't think there's a guarantee that *you* did the second one.
BingoBoingo:
I don't really have chicory around this time of year
phf: my current goal is to have better compartmentalization, like have a gaming machine (
i.e. libretto running dos,
i've been unwinding with ~~'95 games), a work machine (
i.e. a thing that can run intellij and which is compromised for all the practical purposes) and a b-a machine whatever that evolves into, because
i don't think the future of a computer as a progrock moog station is panning out
phf: asciilifeform:
i guess
i can't seem to find a baseline that doesn't suck in all kinds of obvious and non-obvious ways. for all practical purposes
i operate out of a semipublic terminal that
i don't own. various attempts to establish non-superficial ownership were unsuccessful for reasons amply discussed here
phf:
i don't know what constitutes naked civilian box
mircea_popescu: literally, "thus therefore,
i don't see them to clearly", but that "not see clearly" really means, "it won't end up well for them". sort-of like prophet not seeing your future too clearly.
mircea_popescu: well wtf,
i get the same results from my dog.
i don't make the dog a strategist. FOR THIS REASON.
assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 13:35:07; asciilifeform: 'Do
I really have to be forced to use accessibility if
I want just the gtk gui?
I don't have the time needed to learn to modify ebuild, and keep a separate overlay...
I want to use Gentoo, not keep building it forever. Do
I really have to accomodate for remote seat to be able to use Gentoo? '