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BingoBoingo: Roughly the same vintage as DailyKos and Howard Dean
a111: Logged on 2018-12-17 03:20 nicoleci: diana_coman, your summary does look great! not as much jealous as amazed :)
nicoleci: diana_coman, your summary does look great! not as much jealous as amazed :) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in wtf : iptables -nL works as expected ; iptables -Ln does not ; iptables -L -n does not either. dat "unix philosophy".
diana_coman: the knob+time is always and forever as it was
mircea_popescu: but yes, pretty good both as to time taken and as to content produced!
diana_coman: this is not to say that any week would take the same, as I don't expect it would
mircea_popescu: i doubt the problem's etiquette. seems to me much deeper issue than that, civillian pantsuit expects anything can be taken in "at his own rate" because his personal golden veal promised him there will never be such a thing as the calling in this world.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-16 04:44 asciilifeform: ( phunphakt to tie this into prev thread -- seems as if the bolix 3d engine, 1 of the 1st to be sold as such, still exists as commercial product, owned by some jp firm. naturally cppized and renamed. )
mircea_popescu: " As a result, we have decided to turn off the bulletin board while we search for a better product (hopefully one that will allow us to migrate our previous content). Just to let everyone know, we have been working quite busily over the past couple months, and will make announcements of any new product availability as soon as it/they become(s) available! "
mircea_popescu: "Bulletin Board As you may have discovered, our bulletin board has recently been overrun by garbage posts, contributing in part to the crash of the Mirai forum. "
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt to tie this into prev thread -- seems as if the bolix 3d engine, 1 of the 1st to be sold as such, still exists as commercial product, owned by some jp firm. naturally cppized and renamed. ) ☟︎
asciilifeform wrote a fairly substantial ( tho unpublished and long ago retired ) proggy with qt, rewritten from wx; but never so much as touched 'unity'
mircea_popescu: no what i'm saying is : poor & stupid kids in peripheral village somehow picked same bit of entirely indistinct and utterly useless&dysfunctional flotsam as ibm.
mircea_popescu: anyone with even cursory qualifications in software project management could have pointed out they have 0 chances of managing the switch before their chosen platform dies (they took 12+ years to fuck up the original codebase, glacial foss devcycles as only gnu can exemplify).
mircea_popescu: and before "conspiracy theory", as in "they have a mailing list, http://qntra.net/2015/11/disgraced-gavin-of-global-warming-government-scaling-debate-moves-on-to-alt-kook/ style, talked it over there in secret and consensused to pick this" : the idiots s.mg forked legacy eulora codebase from also famously "decided to switch to unity".
mircea_popescu: ~why~ exactly the robohitler chose to act as if this piece of shit is "the future" for a decade starting cca 2010 is the faint interesting bit in here.
asciilifeform: phf: damned if i know. in as far as i can tell, the entire 'user komyoonity' consists of asciilifeform , phf, and a dozen http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693150 's ☝︎
phf: ah, huh, he's an experienced showman, could've probably sold as a board, without anything else and still fetched the same price
asciilifeform: phf: came as complete kit
a111: Logged on 2014-01-19 19:38 asciilifeform: as a boy, i read about an 18th c. book, 'Triple Power over the Forces of Hell'
asciilifeform: in other noose, phf , mircea_popescu , et al, the bolix is here. dks packs a++ , princely, all parts on manifest , and kilometre of bubbles. will post photos as soon as i wrap up my albatross of this week, ch14
mircea_popescu: this may then explain "insane" choices such as boggle naggum.
mircea_popescu: look at the fetlife girls as the finest example.
mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/dcTLv/?raw=true << sample "makes it". they do exist, just, the english speaking world readily approximates as a small townstead drowned in an ocean's worth of inexplicably voluble & outspoken krill.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/12/reports-anti-macron-french-increasingly-compliant-as-tyrants-gendarmies-intensify-anti-civilian-violence/ << Qntra -- Reports: Anti-Macron French Increasingly Compliant As Tyrant's Gendarmies Intensify anti-Civilian Violence
asciilifeform: not given as practical how-to, but 'could or could not'
mircea_popescu: there's also the what to discard, what not to have in there at all (yes there's such a thing as xray mirror, also some plastics are no good, and so on).
mircea_popescu: do me a favour and read "x ray hygiene" as a thing, it's not a one liner.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-14 22:53 asciilifeform: ( and really dun need dram at all, the drams on the daughterboard are all connected through period auto-refresher ic that presents as a sram )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-14 19:33 asciilifeform: reportedly items like this are being orbited , as cost-saving measure in place of ye olde saphire semiconductors. but there's ~nuffin publicly written re just how built.
asciilifeform: the item can then be used as fairly compact instrument to probe behaviour of the chip vs. the old emulators.
asciilifeform: phf: i am thinking, instead of burning time on emulating 'nubus' and ancient crapple, when working (from mac-side pov) clone exists i'ma drive it directly via onboard ft2232hl or similar ( the mac-side src , i've had for yrs, and it's quite straightforward re what is done to the card; once i know what specifically happens on the card when nubus regs are written, may as well do it from pc directly to/from the ivory cpu via usb-to-5v-f
asciilifeform: ( and really dun need dram at all, the drams on the daughterboard are all connected through period auto-refresher ic that presents as a sram ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( i aint gonna stick to the period srams/drams, cuz that'd be simply dumb , each really belongs as 1 chip )
phf: asciilifeform: i worked on tandem for a bit (known by then as HP NonStop), i appreciated the architecture, but entire software stack was cobol
asciilifeform: reportedly items like this are being orbited , as cost-saving measure in place of ye olde saphire semiconductors. but there's ~nuffin publicly written re just how built. ☟︎
asciilifeform: e.g. xerox lispm is rarer still ( and had own merits, which i pieced together 100% from docs and surviving photos and won't even go into in depth because approx as questionable as archaeology of merv... )
asciilifeform: in other lulz ( and given as http://logs.bvulpes.com/asciilifeform still dead.. ) , http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iLAh3/?raw=true << recent proceedings from asciilifeform's outpatient tele-clinic .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman: re queues filling : per my reading of http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/#selection-673.0-673.234 , well-behaved clients cannot cause queue to overfill, as it's a synchronous back/forth. so overfilled queue indicates somebody for the chopping block.
mircea_popescu: ok, so the idea here is, that while maintaining different code on different boxes is costly and undersirable, nevertheless that is mitigated by the relative ease of the genericization/prototyping mechanism in ada ; whereas single queue model, as logically tempting as it may be, is costlier than it seems (not necessarily because insertion can't be o1, but still, machinery involved).
diana_coman: "as asciilifeform describes" aka 1 item put/get at a time; 2 different queues, one for rsa one for s
asciilifeform: ( item can be made as mircea_popescu described, either from 2 fifos or 1 priorityqueue. but the latter is actually much moar complicated, in re moving parts, than the former )
asciilifeform: what happens is that nothing behind the 22 rsa items is eaten until they are. as one'd expect from an ordinary fifo. hence asciilifeform's nitpick.
diana_coman: i.e. yes, it could have been implemented as mircea_popescu describes if I didn't aim for this specifically
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, the way I implemented it it's as asciilifeform says but the reason it is *this* data structure is because of intended use so linked to above
mircea_popescu: "this is needed for the same reason as the generic at UDP lib previously - to allow one to store Serpent messages or RSA messages while maintaining them clearly differentiated" << why are you putting ducks and geese in the same line though ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yes, certainly should provide whatever diagnosis tools and equipment you want. i don't want to fill that in yet, it'll... come to you, as it happens :)
diana_coman: well yes, as long as sender/receiver are ultra-thin aka only from/to queue to/from udp lib then no clog expected at socket
diana_coman: doesn't even bother to decrypt or whatnot because anyway it has no info as to keys and all that
asciilifeform: really a 'sapper errs once' sorta job, if i zap so much as 1 GAL i'ma need whole new orchestra again.
asciilifeform: if the orig maker didn't bother to set the 'no read' bit, it'll be 9000x easier (whether so, not known yet, afaik nobody's ever fessed up to so much as trying)
asciilifeform: it's a board of same type as FG ( but 100% through-hole )
mircea_popescu: diana_coman as in "the only possible statement of mp's ultimate optimism will be centered around a refusal to believe such, for lack of any other available centers."
asciilifeform: juliankunkel: as a maths fella, you may also find 'ffa' ( asciilifeform's current item, http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=49 ) interesting, world's only sidechannelism-proof crypto lib, ~80% done
diana_coman: since Julian was at my talk on Monday, he now knows something about WoT :D But more to the point: he is so far the one and only Uni lecturer who wants to understand this bitcoin thing as opposed to just talk about it. So I'm quite happy he's here.
asciilifeform: cuz 'industry' people apparently were dropped by their mothers as children, e.g. one http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-12#1879986 , and 3 others no reply at all ( they dun like money ? ) ☝︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-13#1880441 -> as in "can't stand it" or "can't make sense of it"? ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my current impression is that ( possibly unlike the 'sjw chix' ) the 'bright young' douchebags dun even bother to consider the political substance of the oddball gymnastics they participate in, but see moar as simple mechanical motion, like plowing field
diana_coman: I'll consider it as part of my fanbase as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-11#1879491 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Puede Ser, I haven't given much though to Australia's Kangaroo Courts as a legal system to get involved in
asciilifeform pictures Mocky as diana_coman's butler
mircea_popescu: i expect if attempted it'll immediately run into the same problem pizarro is encountering, whereas bois will do ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, no matter how patently stupid and laughing impending beheading in the face, just as long as it's NOT "talk to a lot of people". ☟︎
Mocky: no mr. recruiter I don't have experience with Docker, as fun as that sounds
mircea_popescu: this is a facet of what i'm saying : rather than have you "look for a girlfriend as best i can when i perceive i need one", how about you have a ~girl~ look for girlfriends ALL THE TIME, and you can pick one or a few when inclined.
mircea_popescu: just as naked as was before.
mircea_popescu: and i suspect this fundamental intuition is what drives a lot of high socialism (like high protestantism, the nonsense among intelligent folks, as opposed to low) -- the intuition that the 1800 notion of money, perfectly adequate as it is for concretes, utterly fails on abstracts and what one needs is a lot more abstracts than concretes.
mircea_popescu: ie, he wants sufficient claim to fame as to make the "i'd like to live rather than die" proposition defensible. he doesn't even want money as such at all
mircea_popescu: he wants ~to be able to get other professionals to help him when he needs it~, he doesn't want "more dough" specifically and as such.
asciilifeform: ( and , as asciilifeform is fond of observing, stalin's approach on many occasions performed 9000x better than merchant's dubloons approach )
mircea_popescu: and if you answer this, you necessarily answer "how to value work" as well as "what meaning has king's arbitrarity" and so on.
asciilifeform: in ye olde supercomp world, was known as 'process starvation'
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's a whole other can of intricate strange. i wasn't gonna address it till as you say, some l1 folks move on.
mircea_popescu: the above "question of valuation" as well as the "it'd better make sense" readily translate into "give me resistive loss formula".
mircea_popescu: consider tomorrow emperor of china writes in, wants to give taiwan to republic as peace gift.
asciilifeform: i dun complain that, e.g., mircea_popescu pays for ice cream but not udplib, it's his dubloons, just as he dun complain that asciilifeform buys ice cream instead of euloratronium, errybody is master of own chest, large or small
mircea_popescu: given a set of ("the place formerly known as sudan", "a monopoly on aviation", "the empire state building") and ("has written proper sgml", "heroically reversed bolix stack","found way to write without getting out of bed"), which is the correct matching ?
asciilifeform: i.e. just about all of the problems of 'closed' world , were re-created on substrate of 'open', without anyone so much as deliberately trying
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ie, i would propose as a foundational myth, "avik killed naggum". there's something here. << And he did it for (((packing))) Peanuts!
asciilifeform: ( or happens as side effect of 'particulars' )
mircea_popescu: to bring this full circle : the perceived difference between particularizing (doctor) and generalizing (computer scientist) abstract work is entirely hallucinated. the ~only~ way to correctly pay for abstract work is as allocations from crown.
mircea_popescu: ie, i would propose as a foundational myth, "avik killed naggum". there's something here.
asciilifeform: then saw the very tools of his trade vanishing, as the commercial lisp people slowly starved cuz idjits went 'let's hire 9000 java monkeys, freeeee tooling'
mircea_popescu: leaving aside my observation of anyone else's experience -- the "here's mp-wp codebase" has not appreciably destroyed something as far as i can tell.
mircea_popescu: as you well should.
asciilifeform: in practice the friction of 'closed' is finite. bolix is as closed as it gets and i'ma still rape it.
mircea_popescu: now let's look at this system : it's not nicole's place to judge her master avik ; separated from this her master avik is a moron. is it our intention that everything should stand as it fell ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-25 19:15 asciilifeform: at the risk of repeating ancient thread -- 'the best machine is no machine', it weighs nuffin, needs no maintenance. and the best proggy, is no proggy at all, if a problem can be solved without writing proggy, it ought to be. erry line of coad can be rightfully pictured as an act of intellectual littering. y'know, like throwing cig butt or bottle on the ground in the park.
mircea_popescu: suppose, as a thought experiment, we are now in charge of the world. we are to say how it is to be run.
asciilifeform: i mailed it in as a qntra fodder the other day
mircea_popescu: the world, not as a sum, but throughout, each-individual-component-as-well-as-all-groups-of-components, is worse off for computers being more accessible thusly.
mircea_popescu: and the thing that truly gets my goat, is that all this inane "simplicity -- computers have to do the work for people" reinterpreted as "computers have to do the work to compensate for utterly destructured psychogenic noise -- and you have to write the assurance software for the software they run" was only pushed in the first place so "accessible" because then "more people get involved". forgetting all the while that the "peo
asciilifeform: if html centralcommittee had been slightly less retarded, we could've had bitmaps with searchable backing text; or font-height attribute; or any number of 1 thing that'd cure the retardation. but so happens that they were dropped as children, and so we have this.
mircea_popescu: there's no way out of this, alf : inasmuch as "math" is not fully alphabetic (as it isn't, because it includes procedural items as well as characters) you WILL HAVE TO add some notation to your "text".
mircea_popescu: but you ~could~ add the actual latex source as an alt tag on the image, resulting in... searchable, and viewable in [correctly working] lynx.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i saw the plugin thing earlier. it has exactly same problem as latex-by-hand -- bitmapism, resulting in nonsearchable and nonseeable-in-lynx etc text
mircea_popescu: pick one article from there (preferably -- something interesting!), and make a post of it. transcribe it correctly, include all images (cleanned up if they need it ; or restated as http://trilema.com/2018/how-to-html-math/ if practicable) and there you go.
mircea_popescu: it contains such gems as "He went abroad with him, and brought home such a return as was to be expected from kindred honour and well reciprocated use."
mircea_popescu: interesting item, ran for ~200 years up until ww1 as a sorta-kinda republican log. eventually some society of bored folks in utah produced a complete index, like 100 volumes.
mircea_popescu: that said, a svg-centric (as per prev log discussion) x-only (no gnome/kde/whatever bs) browser will prolly have to be written anyway.