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sina: I mean, I am pretty sure
sina: how the fuck am I know my code works
sina: lel ok that is not the output that I got :(
sina: did I call it wrong?
sina: i.e. round up or down
sina: mircea_popescu: can I ask you to verify behaviour of half screw when the length of S or R is not even?
sina: I miss writing code, most of my day-to-day is operations
sina: ok fair enough then, I'll try and adhere solely to the spec
sina: ah fux, so I can't rely on the steps displayed in the prototype to validate my work as I go?
mircea_popescu: i'd say tis correct.
mircea_popescu: i can imagine why.
ben_vulpes: i very rarely bother to ask if people actually eg beat the market, convert back to btc, move that btc off the exchange...
shinohai: I always chose to see one as liquishit vs solid
mircea_popescu: "there is no difference between these two" "i think you might've been raped"
ben_vulpes: "hey what do you think about ethereum? a couple of guys i know bought some and made a ton of money?" "which ethereum?" "..."
ben_vulpes: texas a&i and southern methodist, apparently
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i see 2 lines of the needed 'image fix and a bunch of ??? << so two other things. 1) 'M
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's an illustration of typical 'free agent' tho -- i.e. imbecile interested in 'free coke' rather than any coherent action with >1hr horizon. i.e. beast of the field.
mircea_popescu: i guess while the sofa stack lasts, the sofa stack lasts huh.
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean, item you buy from cisco. i mean, computer.)
asciilifeform: !~later tell Framedragger do you perchance remember where in the logs i posted phuctor's key parser ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: !!later tell sina a) dun need to msg me the day's log, i always read it anyway and b) yeah, the prototype actually implements an older spec. trivial to revise if one cares to, was published.
asciilifeform: i see 2 lines of the needed 'image fix and a bunch of ???
asciilifeform: mod6: afaik only problem was with the i/o in the test proggy.
mod6: speaking of ada stuff. i did get horsecocks to compile just fine with the changes that were discussed previously with diana_coman ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: whtachatalkingabout, i posted reams of buggy codes
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: oh you know, someone "myeah, i had a feeling that wasn't going to work out" me: *explodes*
ben_vulpes: heh tangentially, i've forbidden anything even verging on "i told you sos" without the teller having told
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667638 << i contemplated whether to show ben_vulpes ~all~ of the mistakes in his proggy, or to let him find for himself, decided on the latter ( it's a healthy thing ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 09:05 mircea_popescu: and i suspect alf is either making a c one or trying to talk himself into it
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667623 << believe or not -- i dun have one yet. at some point i'ma write an ada proggy ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 09:00 sina: I am a big fan of the 600 lines of python idea, using libraries to offload stuff to C where appropriate
a111: Logged on 2017-06-09 08:57 sina: any chance I could be involved?
asciilifeform: every once in a while i also post, publicly, copy of the db: it's ~12G, gzipped, presently. this oughta be enough for anyone.
asciilifeform: ( pgpdump -i gives you the modulus etc. from any pgp key; then multiply the factors : instant verification. )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667584 << it is not, and ain't going to be, i'm not especially interested in helping folx to 'embrace and extinguish' it. as far as i'm concerned, 100% of the output is verifiable with the bignum calculator of your choice (e.g. 'bc') and it is no concern of anybody's how it was obtained. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667600 << i'ma depythonize and desqlize it, but currently lack the time ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-09#1667588 << i have an ad-hoc version of something quite similar, in there already. it doesn't help much, because phuctor is actually THREE independent (communicating solely via the db) unix processes ☝︎
jhvh1: sina: Error: I haven't seen mircea_popescu, I'll let you do the telling.
shinohai: Morning sina .... I likely cannot be of help in that regard yet. I'm still student of the logz there and mucking around with ben_vulpes lisp.
ben_vulpes: i suspect something in the flip.
ben_vulpes: i'm going to see dragons in these numbers if i keep this up
ben_vulpes: now i shall have to spend some time getting intimate with places and macro capture rules
ben_vulpes: because i've yet to learn the dark arts of macro wizardry, and it's dangerous, and so it gets filed as dangerous stuff i don't understand yet.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: naively, i passed a function called from within the scope a reference to the thing
ben_vulpes: a million billion log lines later, i have found an implementation-killer
ben_vulpes: sina: i didn't figure that was ambiguous in any way
mircea_popescu: and i suspect alf is either making a c one or trying to talk himself into it ☟︎
sina: will do so now, as you can see I was reading previous months logs :P
sina: mircea_popescu: I work on the biggest python turd of all, OpenStack :P
sina: anyway, I guess I will come back later and ask asciilifeform and he'll laugh at me
sina: you can never rly get rid of it I guess
sina: I am a big fan of the 600 lines of python idea, using libraries to offload stuff to C where appropriate ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i have nfi
sina: any chance I could be involved? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phuctor is vaguely slated for a 4th iirc rewrite to decouple the front end and other stuff. so i guess this goes in the literature review pile for when.
sina: db_pool is about 500 lines, and I guess there is some lower level stuff behind that
mircea_popescu: ah, now that i dunno
sina: I am curious to look and learn
ben_vulpes: yes i know.
ben_vulpes: and i turned logging off while flailing at linux so i have nfi why she went down right there
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: a casual manual inspection suggests my implementation is catastrophically broken, but i spent the evening twiddling bots, so haven't put the time into figuring out what might be wrong.
trinque: me? oh I'm just a dude.
mircea_popescu: myeah. there's this very pernicious "i could read any book, therefore i'm just as good as one who actually did so read" nonsense that;s by now 100% of white culture by mass.
asciilifeform: mod6: before ratpoison, i used 'flwm'
mod6: but, now, find that fvwm works fine for what i want
mod6: i used to use one called 'ion', which had some awesome keybindings. this was suggested to me by a gentoo guy back in like 03.
mod6: lol, again, never thought i'd say this, but, ratpoison looks good
shinohai: I had xfce on an Arch install I tried once ... was indeed ok. Much better than gnome/gdm from mah Debian days.
mod6: ive never used this one before... seems to "work" ok i guess.
shinohai: I'm still using fluxbox, use what you know I guess.
mod6: i basically have no use for a "desktop environment" anyway. does ~0 for me.
mod6: my openbsd lappy is fvwm, i love it.
mod6: probably will switch to fvwm when i get all the configs in place.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-08 15:56 asciilifeform: #1 major at umd !11 ( i shit thee not )
asciilifeform: again i did not even go over whole thing, this was only the 1st bit to stick out to naked eye
mircea_popescu: for as long as they can keep burning granpa's furniture to power the pretense machine, i suppose they can keep pretending like that matters.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't find it objectionable. it IS however disqualifying, for their claims as to the self. in other words, i don't respect them above chattels, and there's a fine reason why i'm right to not respect them above chattels : right here.
ben_vulpes: i suspect that i hadn't yet verified output against the runs that mircea_popescu posted
ben_vulpes: i left off before posting for some reason that i cannot now recall
ben_vulpes: i have an implementation
mircea_popescu: hm. i recall somethign with it
mircea_popescu: i didn't keep so close track.
mircea_popescu: i published one, iirc ben_vulpes also did, etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i intend to open that for implementation, let people (in wot only) bid, like candi_lustt worked oput.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in a VERY fine manifestation of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-08#1667268 + "everyone in ourdemocracy is 75", i expect entirely no participation. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: kinda why i gave it a time lol
mircea_popescu: that';s what i mean, it's really very minimalistically built for the purpose of showing a set of idiots they;re idiots.
asciilifeform: i'll bite :
mircea_popescu: i don't see it.
asciilifeform: i dare say the pot is a little bigger, in that casino
asciilifeform: ( i was half-convinced that mircea_popescu did this exercise as a response to the dieharder thread )
mircea_popescu: hey, i already made a game. this was the reality teaching tool.
mircea_popescu: that's the fucking point. as bama well observed, "my old man used to gamble when he plantted his field and prtayed dfor rain. i figure if a man's gonna gamble, might as well do it without plowing."
mircea_popescu: moreover i imagine ima actually work it like this : anyone can add as many agents as they wish for 1 bitcent per ; total pot minus what the simulation costs is divided to top scoring agents.
asciilifeform: 'This ISR describes a total of 256 linear functions, indexed in a one-byte list. Each function is of the format ai X + bi, with i taking values from 0 to 255. For each byte in the ISR : the first bit will set ai to negative if 1, and to positive otherewise ; the second bit will set ai to either 1 or 2 ; the third bid will set bi to negative if 1 and to positive otherwise ; the remainder five bits will set the value of bi (from 1 to 3
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i want 7.999999997
mircea_popescu: and i see no way out of having reals sadly, because gotta vary the function list somehow.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-08#1667112 << i'd like to be rid of the floating point ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: except it's not "i can't decide what to do", it's "i've decided that being a fluffer's handmaiden is below my level. i'm not willing to kill myself over this apparent failure of the world to contain anything fit for me, but i'll shamble about aimlessly for a while maybe something sticks"