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Framedragger: asciilifeform: re. k, true that. and what with my home country being a usg bitch, i recall my high school's history teacher (who also was its director) being basically in love with kissinger, quoting him left and right and openly admiring him - incl. his person, i think. wonder if he still does the same. ah, good times..
Framedragger: jurov: clearly. too much irreducible qualia, or sth
Framedragger: jurov: heh. bible as a list of optimisation heuristics for simulating the 'verse
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-10#1500536 << yeah, hm. suggestions? a non-ad-hoc solution would be to make deedbot split its irc lines as needed i suppose; or for this particular case, not to mention the comment in the gpg key if it's too long, or to truncate it; or to consider shorter gpg comments for these ssh keys in the future i guess.. ☝︎
Framedragger: "or both"
Framedragger unsure how to rate mp, so will wait for the time being. "smart guy, runs things, unsure whether instrumentally delusional or i'm just failing to cognize fully"
Framedragger: heheh, cheers
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-09#1500372 << yeah ok, good point.. ☝︎
Framedragger: woohoo re. ssh keys :) good stuff. lol @ teh dsl provider.
Framedragger: absolutely; will try to do the same later today, just out of curiosity. interesting indeed
Framedragger: yeah
Framedragger: (i guess the speculation-based pump happened long time ago? though i didn't follow much)
Framedragger: (some nice dump and pump BTCUSD volume it seems; curious how the price moves in the hours/days to come)
Framedragger: nice one, cheers everyone :)
Framedragger: ah. when vc's around maybe he can be queried re this :)
Framedragger: shinohai: yeah, you probably would. if there's an occasion for that tho, i'd go for it. or maybe tmsr can fund one, however it works
Framedragger: $10/mo
Framedragger: shinohai: 1GB Memory, 30GB SSD Storage, 1TB Bandwidth
Framedragger: (my mistake)
Framedragger: oh it's back up
Framedragger: hm, box.cock.li seems to be down, and ssh host key on vc's vps seems to have changed :/ hrmph.
Framedragger: vc reminds me, i'll re-do the port 22 ipv4 probe on his cockful box :p
Framedragger: :).
Framedragger: heh. i am reminded of stories of refugees in sweden making most serious and sincere complaints about how unbelievably cold it is. at that time iirc it wasn't even winter proper, *and* it's not "cold" in sweden....
Framedragger: i guess that's supposed to be winter-y in that context
Framedragger: sorry for your loss
Framedragger: hahaha
Framedragger waves hey mircea_popescu, how are things and how's the weather on your end? it's supposed to be, like, winter over there, right?
Framedragger: ..so no truly-broken keys from the ssh keyset yet, i take it! :)
Framedragger: ;;halfreward
Framedragger: ;;bc,stats
Framedragger: yeah, same!
Framedragger: sounds nice. yeah i spent time by the baltic sea etc, was warm enough to swim, good times
Framedragger: thx shinohai. it's nice to get away from teh PC for a while ☟︎
Framedragger: in other news, https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-08/brexit-turns-bitcoin-into-an-unlikely-haven-currency-chart
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1497216 << o/ ☝︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1496894 << yeah so just to clarify, there were ca. 20M hosts 'up', and ca. 10M ssh keys extracted from those 20M online candidates ☝︎
Framedragger: rehi
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492083 << out of loop; soo, many awesome bitcoin nodes actually run on the same host? kinda hilarious / sad ☝︎
Framedragger: that's a start for sure. sometimes cartographers from far away lands not connected to your network of trust, i guess. but then perhaps no need to trust much about far away lands anyway
Framedragger: problem when world is big and you need to trust other cartographers, i guess
Framedragger: (bias to trust legendz)
Framedragger: (not me, apparently; need to work against that internalized bias some more)
Framedragger: who would have thought
Framedragger: those opinions and past rumours on the nets are sort of detrimental if anything to the experimental effort which is sorely needed in all areas here
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492071<< yeah i see your point, and incidentally agree here completely ☝︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492150 << ahahaha nice one! never heard this ☝︎
Framedragger: tell it already
Framedragger: but yeh dunno about ssh
Framedragger: http://internetcensus2012.bitbucket.org/ suggests there's more of fridge on the internet than there should be
Framedragger: i would like to scan the whole /0 0:65535 range some time though, i'm sure there'd be quite a few ssh servers lurking behind strange ports, and quite a lot of them could be old embedded gadgets. just speculation tho
Framedragger: or labour union websites but that may just cause a stroke and best to avoid stress induced fatalities
Framedragger: and maybe make sure some of those ip addresses are in /24's which also house chinese bitcoin miners ;)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ^
Framedragger: asciilifeform: but cross-checking makes sense, say if you do ssh-keyscan for a small randomized sample, nothing bad can come out of it. let me know if you want scriptz
Framedragger: asciilifeform: but have you considered that there are fewer implementations for ssh (and the better part of the ssh servers in the wild run openssh), and more implementations for all kinds of broken pgp? so it may simply be less likely to spot a badly generated ssh key. ☟︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-27#1491238 << i too expected gadgets with shitty rng. any source for that 0.1% figure? ☝︎
Framedragger: asciilifeform: maybe i did fuck up in some very unique way. don't know. oh and the ip addresses are in random order, so there's that
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1491732 << which nickname was that? :) nvm i guess ☝︎
Framedragger: i'm prolly mostly afk / travelling this week but would be interested to discuss.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: re. keys - interesting. i don't think i was mitm'd, 13 machines and all, not that it's not possible or anything, and the machines were on the same provider, so, lol, of course possible in principle. but specific mitm's which give working unique keys? hm. but, interesting, i don't have an answer here. ☟︎
Framedragger: ridiculous :D
Framedragger: o, ahahahha.
Framedragger: can't even be a proper soldier.
Framedragger: re. other stuff, i'm not exactly on the opposite side of the fence, i suppose, so eh!
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-26#1490812 << just fyi this was me quoting the cia dude, i was lol'ing that he literally said "THat is an incredibly rude question to ask a vet" - but yeh ☝︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: k, gotcha
Framedragger: > THat is an incredibly rude question to ask a vet ☟︎
Framedragger: >> Have you ever killed someone?
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: in fairness, i'd have to recall, and you may have a point here - i am not sure.
Framedragger: non sequitur as far as tor's use is concerned. he came out himself about him being the leaker. this breaks the anonymity.
Framedragger cools off and goes for coffee
Framedragger: tyvm
Framedragger: see i have friends outside this irc, too
Framedragger: i don't give a fuck about "own credibility", lol. i'm here because it's stimulating.
Framedragger: inb4 mp's "those journos are unimportant niggers"
Framedragger: what the fuck does that mean, even. plenty of journalists reporting on actual shit use tor all the time
Framedragger: wut? snowden used tor ☟︎
Framedragger: did you ever run a god damn tor browser? you prolly didnt because usg. it has banners and warnings all over. what else can one do. they're transparent about the bugs (incl upstream firefox) etc. not saying that i'd use tor for important things now. ☟︎
Framedragger: asciilifeform: you do know that tor never promised absolute anonymity etc etc, and says you have to maintain good opsec, tor is not enough etc.
Framedragger: yeah no shit >.<
Framedragger: 21:17 < helix> I think it was incredibly selfish of you to join tor knowing this would utterly fuck us PR-wise
Framedragger: sometimes, not all of the times
Framedragger: but to suggest that folk from within are in on it, as in usg agents whatnot, is bull. i know that in terms of effects there may not be much of a difference, but whenever you say "prolly controlled burn by those idiots", i want to smack you because those friends are not dumb at all. ☟︎☟︎
Framedragger: original design explicitly excluded global passive adversaries anyway
Framedragger: sure. look, i'm not saying that anyone of import should use tor
Framedragger: nigga please, that aint true at all
Framedragger: if you mean that it's *likely* fucked, yes
Framedragger: if you mean that > 50% of funding comes from usg and that it was initially funded by navy research lab, yes ☟︎
Framedragger: i have, and i've had back and forth with mp on his blog long ago, that conversation he likes to quote, but there is nothing material
Framedragger: "prolly a controlled burn" ☟︎
Framedragger: reallly interesting and lulzy nonetheless
Framedragger: asciilifeform: you don't know those devs, so fuck off
Framedragger: but really fucking rofl @ the cia guy
Framedragger: nope
Framedragger: kk.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i assume source is unknown? only asking cause i'm curious, having had some relation to tor
Framedragger: (if there was to be one more bot around these parts, i assume having a prefix char for it be "@" would be fine - i think it should be fine.. this can be changed of course) ☟︎
Framedragger: @help
Framedragger: ah. actually i should know this; right.