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danielpbarron: !Q later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/QcDk9/?raw=true

mod6: With everything in the right place... (I even needed a '/var/db/repos/mod6/metadata' directory with one file in it, 'layout.conf', that contains one single line: masters = cuntoo) then I was able to run a `ebuild ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64-20180924.ebuild clean manifest install merge` and end up with the extracted contents in '/ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64-20180924'.

mod6: trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4YG2X/?raw=true << Here is my **experimental only** ebuild, 'ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64-20180924.ebuild'. I've been placing this file, while testing in a directory ' /var/db/repos/mod6/app-tmsr/ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64'.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 13:13 mircea_popescu: well so let's see here : i can't play, because after sinking however many hours in chasing dependencies and fixing assorted if widely distributed breakage the end story is that "foss" has managed to really give the whole game away -- there is ONE chain, consisting of play on linux so-and-so using wine-so-and-so on ubuntu this-and-that, and you pray it works -- because if it doesn't work, THAT IS IT, "there was an error" li

deedbot: mp_en_viaje voiced for 30 minutes.

asciilifeform: !!up mp_en_viaje

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 18:45 feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/06/unrolled-assembly-squaring/ << bvt's backtrace -- Unrolled x86_64 Assembly Squaring for Ch. 12 FFA

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 18:00 mp_en_viaje: right. so portage might be the pipe that got you your galon of linux. but that is what you wanted -- not the faucet, but the galon.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 09:41 mircea_popescu: there's no rule you must publish the signed thing. you can publish 11 drafts before signing, what of it.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 06:44 mircea_popescu: here's the thing with this reading business : most things are read on the second pass.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 23:20 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919322 << one of the corps red hat bought and buried was arguably getting close.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919585 << i was thinking from ' mircea_popescu's uci ' angle. ( btw anyone familiar with linked item ?? did it work ? ) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 23:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919311 << i think this is running in the wrong direction. just more shit to break / require rubber bads / touching just so and etc.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 22:46 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919282 << this is such sad nonsense...

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 22:34 mircea_popescu: whereas implicit v-ism would be "all code is made one pile, then built once and linked, and that's it".

feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/06/unrolled-assembly-squaring/ << bvt's backtrace -- Unrolled x86_64 Assembly Squaring for Ch. 12 FFA ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 06:55 mircea_popescu: and so no, what worries me isn't that http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919296 ; what worries me is htat the last item in http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22trinque.org%22 is from 2018, and that trinque.org doesn't load today like deedbot.org didn't load yest, when i wanted to check the helpfile and ended up loading it from archive.is ;

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 06:57 mircea_popescu: what worries me is this approach whereby a) things tend to be discussed in response to some kind of prodding, and b) while that feeling lasts, only to c) fall back into an eerie silence within a few hours or maybe days, for WEEKS AND WEEKS AND MONTHS AND YEARS AT A TIME!!!

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 00:03 lobbes: however on second run-through I indeed went back to read the scripts in tandem with the gentoo handbook (so as to actually understand what was going on) and produced a bootable genesis that verified >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/02/a-bridge-to-cuntoo-for-the-lenovo-x61-x86_64/

mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, but basically, it's running the same thing from 2018 ; and the reason it doesnt move is that a) we couldn't give less of a shit about ebuilds while b) we can't easily change the pile of dependencies to live with musl and so yet haven't.

a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 18:11 diana_coman: trinque, that looks great; if I understand correctly, the archive there contains the means to a. install cuntoo b. make the genesis of cuntoo/portage that could in principle be used to move an existing gentoo to cuntoo; is this correct?

a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 08:49 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, more practically, are we running cuntoo latest or what is the situation there ?

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 13:57 mircea_popescu: the sort of "before publishing, I'm making sure" idiocy is exactly, but i do mean exactly, of the same substance as the fat girl's "this donut has no calories". it uses the exact same parts of the brain in the exact same way.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, more practically, are we running cuntoo latest or what is the situation there ? ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-01-04 17:18 mircea_popescu: why the fuck didn't i think of that.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i suppose in a very theoretical, idealized sense. in practice however... what are we to conclude on the basis of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884426 ? that neither i (nor anyone else here for that matter) had diffraction loaded in head ? the wave model of energy ? what exactly ? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-03-10 21:39 trinque: scripts/make_portage_tree.sh << line 14, I do string-munging on the path that's specific to my own filesystem layout

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: hm; to make it clear what I mean re loading-in-head - arguably if I had fully loaded-in-head the scripts, I should have found http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-10#1901339 myself, right? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, this is like slavegirl saying "i don;'t understand why not ask detailedly for tongue movements and assorted shenanigans". she gets punished if jher bj is subpar because i don't have the fucking patience to micromanage blowjobs. it'd be like writing the book im about to read, if i wrote it what sorta discovery is this!

lobbes: however on second run-through I indeed went back to read the scripts in tandem with the gentoo handbook (so as to actually understand what was going on) and produced a bootable genesis that verified >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/02/a-bridge-to-cuntoo-for-the-lenovo-x61-x86_64/ ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-04 12:12 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-04#1917013 -> until we change OS basically; the test one was step towards Cuntoo and that's pretty much the only real reason for having 2 since playing around with the OS on a production server is rather iffy.

a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 18:18 diana_coman: asciilifeform, smg's test machine is running proto-cuntoo so it's not just any gentoo really

a111: Logged on 2018-07-23 14:08 diana_coman: eulora server is happily compiling on proto-cuntoo with ave1's gnat+gcc; all tests passed so far, LOC greatly reduced too, loads of shit cleaned away and discarded; we are looking forward to move it to production, so any eta for cuntoo?

trinque: mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/yjvw4/?raw=true

asciilifeform: this resembles asciilifeform's orig. argument against having to write vtron -- 'just press the fucking patches by hand, lazy people'. but mircea_popescu didn't buy it then, so had to write vtron.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 22:00 mircea_popescu: i mitigate this problem by very pointedly only buying certain kinds / classes.

trinque: mircea_popescu: end up with a working trb-running server more quickly than I do today

asciilifeform: what can i say, i cannot speak for mircea_popescu , but i have never bought a 'mystery pc' where i have nfi apriori what os to even attempt on it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if pc were a small arm, i'd say would be 'zip gun' made from old brass pipe and paperclip, at this pt in time

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 22:01 mircea_popescu: trinque, if everyone includes ebuilds of everything and in a few years' time everyone's just doing portage because "it's easier, man" ima be very damn sad.

asciilifeform: and this is when we learned that mircea_popescu dun have a scale in his toilet lol

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you personally own a box where you do not know which cpu is installed ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: describe this to me plox.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when he bought cpu, presumably he knows which one he bought, neh

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yer card runs on closed vendorblob, neh. how would that even make it into a cuntoo-portage or vtree at all.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i described this in the orig ifdefism thread. the solution is to stop pretending that coad worx on boxen where no one in living memory had ever tested it and signed. ☟︎

asciilifeform: asciilifeform was able to cut several MB from ye olde gnu mpi (which today lives in diana_coman's 'eucrypt') simply by beheading the #ifdef dec_vax... and #ifdef xenix... etc

a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 03:43 mircea_popescu: all joking aside : the best answer i could produce for the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-01#1916471 question stands as "choose between steamos and ubuntu", which in plain terms is "do you wish to make your computer a supernintendo and buy virtual cartridges for it ? or would you rather make your computer a mobile phone ?"

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct. and 1ce you 'saved state', you dun need 'if bug xxxxxx...'. cuz you ~already know~ whether this evaluates to troo or false

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can't resist to ask, wai

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho python is one of the cheapest heathenisms to perma-kill. if e.g. spyked's miniature lisp could be grown to adulthood, can dispense with python/perl/bash/etc

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, nor will anything else made by idiots, which is to say 70% of the kernel and 95% of the userspace.

trinque: mircea_popescu: we currently stand on a pile of hellish complexity that costs more man-lives than we have to transition to a form we'd find acceptable.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'ebuilds', as i understand trinque's angle was/is to organically replace gentoo's ebuild duct tape with vtron

mircea_popescu: recall just diana_coman 's adventure with "ints"

asciilifeform: nobody needs 10MB of #ifdef dec_vax ....

trinque: I can see the continuous symbolic space mircea_popescu wants, but the cuntoo thing was exactly "capture these packages before they can't even be built anymore" plus a snapshot of a working build toolchain to do so.

mod6: trinque: Speaking of an ebuild for ave1's musltronic tools, I've got one that works. I've also got one for diana_coman's keccak V tools package.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 15:08 Mocky: mircea_popescu: I've failed at managing myself for the last few months. I let myself get overwhelmed with dumb shit. I thought I could do it all despite the evidence to the contrary. Republican work got dropped along with a bunch of other. But republican work is what I care about and not the dumb shit. So I'm changing this now. Head in the sand is no way to live and putting others in the position to say, 'hey, wtf

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 13:59 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, and iirc test resulted in open questions ( item not yet fully replicable, but no one knows precisely why )

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 13:59 mircea_popescu: trinque, for some reason, deedbot's not answering !!withdrawal !!v's anymore.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 16:41 bvt: mircea_popescu: i guess that there two components in your question. the easy is ffa: is agree that my ffa-related output is underwhelming for a lord, however 1) i don't expect that it will eat much more time (at ch.14 i'll see if there is really need for further asming, the anticipated answer is "not really") 2) i find speedup from asming generally useful, so i don't think the time i spent on it is wasted.

bvt: mircea_popescu: i guess that there two components in your question. the easy is ffa: is agree that my ffa-related output is underwhelming for a lord, however 1) i don't expect that it will eat much more time (at ch.14 i'll see if there is really need for further asming, the anticipated answer is "not really") 2) i find speedup from asming generally useful, so i don't think the time i spent on it is wasted. ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aah

Mocky: I got my blob migrated over to mp_wp, but got hung up on theme changes. I'm going to go live with it and fix the theme later. I need to have a functional blog

Mocky: mircea_popescu: I've failed at managing myself for the last few months. I let myself get overwhelmed with dumb shit. I thought I could do it all despite the evidence to the contrary. Republican work got dropped along with a bunch of other. But republican work is what I care about and not the dumb shit. So I'm changing this now. Head in the sand is no way to live and putting others in the position to say, 'hey, wtf ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i expected that finally making it to ru would be morale booster for phf. ( evidently not? wai not ? )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: loudly 'coulding win' is what those folx do for a 'living' neh.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i expect this will be next 'diet trend' -- arse-mouth hose.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: like the old kgb otp ! also printed in groups of 4.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, and iirc test resulted in open questions ( item not yet fully replicable, but no one knows precisely why ) ☟︎

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, quite.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 06:47 mp_en_viaje: we have no workable bitcoin nor any sort or kind of measurable progress towards one ; we have no working os, and not only is there no progress towards one but as best as i can discern the situation's rather turning in the direction of "buried in concrete" ; we eminently do not have any sort of meat acquisition system going, while pizarro can't get customers and all dpb can be bothered to do is ~USE IT~ to try and get meat for th

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919166 << trinque sweated out a draft cuntoo, which sadly i have not had chance to test in anger. i have a physical box that is destined for it , when get chance, and also will be porting it to the sim-mips, ditto. but i promised to mircea_popescu not to undertake any elaborate works until ffa suitable for 'discard gpg' and extension to other (gossipd, trbi, what else is waiting on it) paths ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 06:58 mp_en_viaje: and yes ima negrate dpb just as soon as i get to my main keys, he's too fucking busy to http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-12#1918049 while http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-20#1919091 all day long ? because what, what the fuck's this republic, everyone's suburban helicopter mom, to roll eyes at while eating her sandwiches and thinking about how to steal shit from the house to curry favour with a bunch of morons in school ?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: dun hesitate to comment plox.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 06:37 mp_en_viaje: may 27th is week 22 ; june 10 is week 24. we're just about starting week 26, because yes, there's a finite number of weeks in any one year, and it's known in advance : 52 of 'em. once june ends so will have ended half of 2019.

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 06:33 mp_en_viaje: !!seen spyked

a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 06:36 mp_en_viaje: besideswhich big round nothing, Mocky 's latest accomplishment as far as anyone knows would be http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-27#1915592 ; phf 's latest accomplishment as far as anyone knows is http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-10#1917869

a111: Logged on 2019-06-12 14:52 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, ?

mp_en_viaje: the theory went that bitcoin corrupts the fiatards, yet somehow magically everyone's pete_dushenski now, so fascinatingly seductive's his empty nothingness to the postmodern mind or what the fuck on wheels' goin' on!

trinque: mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hsoH3/?raw=true

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho mircea_popescu had a point, it is not for me to say what danielpbarron does with his box, whether he wants to preach 11th century heresies or serve up wikilix etc. but indeed the pipe is not made of rubber, something has to give.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not demand 'delish from my pov', no.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-20#1919066 i got impression that he was poking stick into anthills, but was not able to discern what stick and what sorta anthill. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i.e. bombshell article ? i must've missed. ( mircea_popescu do you have a cached copy ? )

asciilifeform: ( as was, e.g., diana_coman's rk & qntra )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this kinda thing is how the various nintendos stay alive. consolist dun have to fiddle w/ gpu drivers etc, plugs in cartridge and gets his tetris in coupla milliseconds, 0 brain req'd

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see also. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which nvidia hairball was this box running -- the opensores one, or vendor's turd ?

mircea_popescu: aaand meanwhile, managing to bash a non-protected hand-compiled wine in the playonlinux hairball has exposed the underlying error : 002b:fixme:d3d_shader:print_glsl_info_log 0(24) : warning C7050: "vs_out[11]" might be used before being initialized

a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 14:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it worked fine, i played heroes etc on it last time around (cca 2010 or so)

a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 10:16 mircea_popescu: does anyone by any chance remember which the fuck trilema article contained this image of a chavy teenage chick, straddling a dude in a car, knees bent, jeans still on but lifted off her cunt, shoving the dude underneath's manhood into her cunt with the left hand ?

scriba: TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable (file "modules/archive.py", line 59, in archive_a_url)

a111: Logged on 2017-03-16 14:36 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was a name for this, 'kitchen intellectuals'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'wine' breakage -- i'm not aware that the opensores 'wine' ever worked even with ancient gamez. the 'play on linux' thing iirc uses the commercial (formerly payware) version, which iirc includes actual libs copied wholesale from microshit. i.e. cocktail of oddball crapola and ~actual microshit~. so, unsurprised that it barfs.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was either in a very classic ro trilema ( that i did not eat yet ) or elsewhere entirely ( in-chan lnk )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which reference that could not find ?