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ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-13 21:58:40 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, it can't be the size, i tested this
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-13#1955265 - maybe it's something specific to the 3d block there that messes it up though it's not all that likely (if for no other reason than the basic 1. at first it worked 2. it still works as a separate footnote); anyways, I don't think it's worth the time right now to chase it fully.
trinque: same with your panamanian guy. he doesn't have the assets in his desk drawer.
trinque: take the deedbot wallet. the assets aren't in the thing; it just counts them.
mp_en_viaje: actually, i don't recall you ever saying, either of you ever been involved with start-ups in any capacity ?
mp_en_viaje: his saving grace is that his clients are in fact very similar idiots in the relevant aspects, which is why i said well targetted. that's the key to success, always find a group of such idiots that, ideally, don't even realise it.
mp_en_viaje: i dont know, man. from where i'm sitting, and i'll readily admit i'm not some sort of linux scholar over here, it seems to me torvalds came in two decades ago on a sorta-kinda wishy-washy platform, and a bunch of perfectly respectable men went with him because well, sorta-kinda wishy-washy is better than nothing, and because being an engineers they didn't know better. they were, so to speak, pre-headfucked by pantsuit agitprop, like cult-r
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:39:12 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:34:51 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, it can't be the size, i tested this
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, http://ossasepia.com/2019/10/31/working-with-ideals-and-perfections/?b=the%20history&e=whole#select << isn't that part weird ?
mp_en_viaje: transparently a "russkis couldn't protect you ; we will" demonstration, made all the more evident by the eurohag stance on it (ignore, rather than whine. whenever daddy's present the "liberated" cunts magically forget all the bullshit they have at the ready in all other circumstances)
BingoBoingo: Still, his sons probably had "Don't let dark africa discover boats can reach Europe" drilled into their heads since infancy
BingoBoingo: Well that Arab spring didn't seem to actually knock off any US/EU/NATO enemies. Just Ghaddafi who turned out to have been Europe's best friend this whole time.
BingoBoingo: "If you don't have a scolding old crone one will be assigned to you"
BingoBoingo: But yes, kids got scared. Didn't even seem to show up last week. They could be quietly wrecking shit somewhere else, or not obsessing over Saturday night-Sunday morning
mp_en_viaje: wouldn't want to like, spill one's blood
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Well doesn't exists past 90s because they let the hippies shave and pretend submit in the 80's
mp_en_viaje: but somehow i just can't quite manage. what society ? what anything really, compare 1989 mtv with 2019 mtv, what "music" ? what anything ?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: They don't. Labour forgets that they are the local "Regime change in Iraq" party which was a great way to fuck themselves into nothing as a "left" pantsuit party.
mp_en_viaje: "does the labour party even have a right to exit ?!" no, it very well fucking doesn't.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-12 07:55:31 mp_en_viaje: use it like it's the enemy, if you will, because it is ; this doesn't reduce to "don't use it".
mp_en_viaje: no, they were quashed by the crown for being tards. the problem is that was 1200, by 1400 they re-appeared, called "protestants" this time, and they weren't quashed that time.
dorion_road: BingoBoingo, thanks, perhaps qualification isn't the best word. I did include "best practices" in there and meant qualification in the necessary precondition sense ; had in mind the mpex listing process.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-12 05:49:54 mp_en_viaje: contrariwise, items 2 and 3 on that same list are quite needed ; 2 needn't be even usable as such, its importance is in getting that tree going, even if not one line of a genesis survives it in the final press nevertheless the tree wouldn't have existed without ; 3 is definitely the sort of key element we've been sorely neglecting to date.
dorion_road: mp_en_viaje thanks for the don't get in people way likbez.
mp_en_viaje: contrariwise, items 2 and 3 on that same list are quite needed ; 2 needn't be even usable as such, its importance is in getting that tree going, even if not one line of a genesis survives it in the final press nevertheless the tree wouldn't have existed without ; 3 is definitely the sort of key element we've been sorely neglecting to date.
mp_en_viaje: so, good news, you don't have to answer whether aliens may join or not, forget about it.
mp_en_viaje: there's some humongo tasks around here because nobody gives so much of a shit how big it is, if it has to be done. but IF. if. if it HAS TO BE done, then yes. not otherwise, the converse doesn't work, just because something's a humongous pile of comparable humongocity doesn't make it a republican task -- the criteria's the has to be done.
mp_en_viaje: the first imperative of management is "don't get in people's way". like the doctor's "firstly, don't harm", exactly. fail everything else but hold that up, you'll be a fine manager ; fuck that up nothing else you do can bring you above water.
mp_en_viaje: nobody even fucking knows how an os is made in the first place for the simple self-obvious reason nobody fucking made one yet. it's not farming. it's not anything like farming. i don't even know what the fuck it's like, maybe we live to figure it out, but so far we just have some good classes of what it can't be like is all.
mp_en_viaje: maybe the dude asks you a question. then you answer it. that's what you do. you don't go chasing about the street with pre-answers to questions nobody's asked yet ; if the guy asks whether he's qualified he probably isn't, which is not the end of the world, you're not qualified either. what the fuck qualification exam did i pass, per accidens & pro tempore's not a collegiate degree. this isn't homogenochina we're trying to reproduce here,
mp_en_viaje: if, and look what a large if that is, you ever find yourself in the situation where there's two entities trying to solve the same problem and you absolutely must pick one, then you pick one. THEN. not fucking now, so far you're stuck with a trillion cubic miles of sky and like half a delta wing, they won't even ~meet~ unless you specifically direct them at each other.
mp_en_viaje: let it be, you don't care. you needn't care. you should not care. carelessness is a legitimate management technique, because wovon [man nicht sprechen kann] is a legitimate philosophical stance.
mp_en_viaje: but it's massively overwhelming, you don't know what the fuck it even is or is supposed to be in plenty of angles ; so you yelp an' try to find some footing, and some purchase. which is cute.
mp_en_viaje: e what to link here ; if only I were to somehow know months ago when I decided not to that months later in a discussion of women I'd have liked to have the reference. Yet I couldn't have known such a thing. Neither can you. Ever. And so instead of spending those twenty mintues there I spent five writing this note and fifteen fishing through the internets trying to identify which fucking bad film it was in the first place."
mp_en_viaje: use it like it's the enemy, if you will, because it is ; this doesn't reduce to "don't use it".
mp_en_viaje: so how about instead of trying to shoehorn sql into supporting your idealism, you just "<a href=http://trilema.com/2016/poor-women/>bang python like a cheap whore</a>. use it, but ~don't expect~ it knows what to do with ifs ; give it tasks, but short and narrow, measurable and ~do not confide in it~. let it write against apache, not import its flask, let her do the dishes not invite her mother over to stay.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-11 13:08:26 mp_en_viaje: i dunno i support any particular action on the foregoing basis. but i also ain't gonna pass it in silence no mo.
mp_en_viaje: this is a naive point of view, of the same nature as "all politicians are dubious so i don't vote" or "i've yet to meet a pure hearted maiden thus i have no truck with girls".
mp_en_viaje: i understand the ambiguity's innerving, and i understand the nude dedication behind "well, if it's bad, don't use it then".
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1955087 << let me be clear here : your dedication is endearing, but the problem isn't using python, per se. if i thought it were, i'd have said ; if an absolute ban on usage were warranted i wouldn't say things like http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-11#1955003
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-11 22:09:54 dorion_road: With tmsr os, how much work to support the implicit clients isn't clear yet. I'm also not 100% clear on spyked, bvt and lobbes situation apart from gathering they've been consistently productive while working salary mines.
dorion_road: With tmsr os, how much work to support the implicit clients isn't clear yet. I'm also not 100% clear on spyked, bvt and lobbes situation apart from gathering they've been consistently productive while working salary mines.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:39:12 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-10 22:34:51 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
diana_coman: it didn't seem like it because it's a statement, not an explanation really; onth it doesn't link it either and supposedly it should, if it can be found and so on.
mp_en_viaje: much like any other drug addiction, by supressing the wrong pain signals (which is what it set out to do, guido van dorkum's idea was exactly this, if coding weren't painful more people would -- yes, but BADLY) it produces positive feedback harmful loops.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-04 22:53:10 mircea_popescu: (notice, incidentally, how my bash / awk didn't betray me in "if($2 != day)" like your python betrayed you)
mp_en_viaje: i dunno i support any particular action on the foregoing basis. but i also ain't gonna pass it in silence no mo.
mp_en_viaje: it doesn't promote smarm.
mp_en_viaje: i don't think it's him ; i think it's the damned python.
mp_en_viaje: hence the link relating it to wikipedia recently that now of course i can't find. basically what it does seems to me in any and all particulars based upon the forwarding of the "group action" agenda of the only evil in this world ; much like the republic's in all workings promoting itself python's in all its workings first supporting the enemy.
mp_en_viaje: they'd like to be ready, see. they just... aren't. and because people are perverse, this tends to manifest rather as exam taking than actual improvement. they don't become any ready-er, they just become adept at pretending they are.
mp_en_viaje: i'd say the most interesting partition available upon "living things" is whether they are ready. there's the living things that are, and the living things that aren't. hence that whole discussion of http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/
mp_en_viaje: dorion, i wouldn't. let's use the call-and-response format for this. so, what would you say is the problem the republic's formed to resolve ?
mp_en_viaje: wasn't talking about you there, lol, but yeah.
diana_coman: now I see it; I read depedent on ~my~ wot and I didn't get it was just moving the centre but keeping the l2 as well, hm.
mp_en_viaje: iirc that was discussed re flexibility for ~other~ chans, which is how the 9 came about, "just don't rate people 9 if you don't want a l1/l2 in your chan"
diana_coman: they won't be able to self-voice and then what, someone has to voice them every hour or they end up kicked to one of the other chans?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I don't mind it or anything; tbh only the other day I had a look at the list of names and picked RubenSomsen to pm & he got at least in #ossasepia, presumably still reading now through the mountain of links he ended up hit with.
mp_en_viaje: if want the bitches to express themselves or not express themselves, in the end ? it's gotta be one, can't be both.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 19:24:08 trinque: nicolewhatever: and by the way, repeating your master's opinion for him says very little. I heard him; he doesn't need you going "ayyyyyy", but good girl all the same.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954818 << this "he doesn't need you" thing is such nonsense. i also don't need any other of the things, what the hell, since when it's a needs-based economy.
mp_en_viaje: anyways, it seems all very neoprotestant ("compile your own bible out of letters found around the house!!) which my rather catholic description doesn't do justice to. but it's just summary, i don't mean to rule by misrepresentation.
mp_en_viaje: trinque, do you recall that time asciilifeform couldn't get a ro lawyer to talk to him over gpg ?
mp_en_viaje: the nile also flooded every year, in a regular process that seemed to most everyone, certainly everyone in the ancient world, fundamental. yet it wasn't fundamental ; i twasn't even self-perpetuating. as it turns out, the nile's stopped flooding altogether, it's been decades.
mp_en_viaje: but i don't think that situation is self-perpetuating.
trinque: the oil folks are all dipshits, and the fraud's a feature. they don't want it.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-10 18:39:12 trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
mp_en_viaje: yes, but nobody knows what the fuck you're either thinking or doing, because you don't express yourself neither consistently nor well. so we're stuck guessing. i'm trying to do as good a job of it as possible, but god fucking help me it's my least favourite activity.
trinque: the only context in which I brought it up was getting pissed at alf that I couldn't have a chip, and w/e.
trinque: we don't disagree on that point either; I don't give a shit how many funnybux I have.
trinque: I'm going to just honestly say I don't follow you, because I don't.
mp_en_viaje: that doesn't mean now i'll permit a whole "lost tech" fantasy fiction to erupt on fucking gentoo, as fucking if the symbolics idiocy wasn't ENOUGH of a waste of time / ready rug to sweep it under..
trinque: nicolewhatever: and by the way, repeating your master's opinion for him says very little. I heard him; he doesn't need you going "ayyyyyy", but good girl all the same.
trinque: dorion_road: ftr I have no problem with trying out your thing and offering critique either. I do have a problem with armies that don't eat, so I'd love to hear how you plan to sustain the effort necessary to maintain an OS.
diana_coman: and now I hope I won't have to cut & clean blender too, lolz.
mp_en_viaje: because totally, i'll be so very fucking impressed, don't you know it.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954760 << for the transparently self-obvious reason that idiots preserve idiocy -- if they didn't, they wouldn't still be around. so yes all their infuriating cuntbrainfarts are always well glued with broken glass, it's never a case of "holy shit, i can't believe how intolerably stupid i've been", it's always a case of http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-12#1950966
mp_en_viaje: because if they aren't, if indeed the republic can't exist without them and thereby won't exist -- guess who's going straight to hell for this sin of theirs, and who'll ever forget, be successfully misdirected, whatever.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-09-29 19:35:27 mircea_popescu: but as far as the foundation is concerned -- if all it does (ALL IT DOES!!!) is stand up to tell me "oh, we can't follow the keccak because reasons" ima put an end to it in short order.
mp_en_viaje: it'd be ridiculous to the point of hysterical (if it weren't so fucking sad), this. everyone strives towards communicating effectually, makes planning articles to try and conquer their innate ineffectuality, EXCEPT the supposed "pillars of the community". those special cuntlets/tards, those... what, write themselves special cuntletry exceptions, what looks great on say thetarpit would hav
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 01:27:38 trinque: let it be plain that I hate most of you. and you should hate me back. I don't want to hear another dipshit that can't find his way into a 50k/yr business call himself lord.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-10#1954760 << I hadn't made that connection, thanks for the link!
dorion_road: gentoo package management has gone through a lot change over the years. I've used gentoo regularly since 2016, but am looking forward to lobbes article on ebuilds because I still haven't grasped that complexity.
dorion_road: the second is the python script baggae with USE flag system that makes gentoo gentoo for better and worse. I think the package management is the biggest value in gentoo, but I don't yet know the cost/benefit of tameing it with V.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-06 23:08:07 trinque: and you have fewer men than you'd like, and I'm not going to pretend to be 20, and then cry when I fail at it. that's why I said I'm looking at kernel + busybox for my own stack. even it isn't human-sized, but it's about two orders of magnitude less twine and shit than "standard linux distro"
mp_en_viaje: then again... 2018 was the year of lotta bullshit, wasn't it.
mp_en_viaje: in other end of year book keepings, holy shit i can't believe i'm gonna have to take a negrate in lieu of that coin.
trinque: I can't say I agree with your approach either.
mp_en_viaje: ie, "mainstream media" ineptitude wasn't invented this generation of tards. or the previous one. lazy moomoos ran that sideshow for at least forty years.
mp_en_viaje: o btw BingoBoingo cunt-intel-pros santa also has a tidbit for you. did you know that in your native chicago a "larouche movement" chick made democratic ticket secretary of state (along with some others), and then adlai wouldn't run on the ticket with the nuts so he invented "solidarity party" which of course cost him the election -- but here's the morcel : until ~the day after the election~ the idiot press reported the defeated democratic
mp_en_viaje: more stark statement of youthful impotence as imanent ireelevancy besides this simple "oh, an older woman couldn't possibly ever kneel for you" i can't really imagine.
ossabot: Logged on 2016-12-07 19:15:10 mircea_popescu: the whole story is decided at the onset - ARE you hero mc heroson ? yes ? then you go kill koschei. no ? then you don't. what do you mean "do what he did" ffs.
dorion_road: I can't say I'm very enthused, but looking to see the upside and get through it as productive as I can be. Getting back to Panama will be a relief for sure.
dorion_road: mp_en_viaje I was/am thinking of the bios software as one of the standard parts. if the operator doesn't want to use it, doesn't have to. for anyone that does, it's there to be used.
mp_en_viaje: dorion_road, seems to me you're mixing things. yes, you can run a mercedes you bought on mud roads in your native tardikistan. no, it can't be a mercedes if it comes without a manual, or without standard parts, or if it violates any other fundamental assumptions implicit in the name.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-07 05:07:30 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-06#1954435 <-- I'm not convinced it will, tbh. atm buying an existing corebootable board is a much cheaper alternative (for gpg at least) than supporting a new one, on account of http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-05#1954371 ; might work on the long term when the supplies for e.g. x60 will be exhausted, but even then, trying to make sense of closed t
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in everyday living, there's much more accessible rack-and-pinions. "don't write " " when you mean "\t", god damn it! and such