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asciilifeform: he gets usg pension.
asciilifeform: his 'thiel fellowship' came from usg.
asciilifeform: that's why the solid wall of bullshit built around the subject by usg
mircea_popescu: anyway, whatever would happen would come as a surprise to everyone, including in no particular order : a) the people running btc-usd exchanges ; b) you ; c) the friendly usg log reader delegate ; d) isabelle boring or w/e her name is ; etc
asciilifeform: aha see they are only interested in finding effect predicted by the usg-sponsored paper machine
asciilifeform: plus they churned inventory, the real immediate purpose of all usg .mil maneuvers
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you will notice the imperial mooks got utterly owned in that play << afaik usg accomplished their one non-negotiable thing in iraq - break the orcs into eternally-warring bantustans, 'vaccinate' against any possible emergence of a real sovereign
decimation: asciilifeform: not having an intelligence agency of my own, i regard it as an open question just how usg might behave should it ever begin to lose < My prediction is 'descent into regional civil war'
asciilifeform: what if, as in mircea_popescu's gedankenexperiment, usg were unable to resupply its men on schedule ?
asciilifeform: not having an intelligence agency of my own, i regard it as an open question just how usg might behave should it ever begin to lose
asciilifeform: pointing out that the voodoo will be the wunderwaffen of choice for a hypothetical 'berlin '45' usg, rather than wunderwaffen
gabriel_laddel: "why funded and by whom ?" << I really can't figure this out, it's like the relationship the USG club have with the Saudis. *mumble mumble* ... little boys... *mumble mumble*
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: translators... armenian << actually usg translator racket is - traditionally - ultra-lucrative. complete with own boom'n'bust cycles
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> probably 'name own price' << yeah, right. usg would rather have google translated material by some crafty armenian at "pay grade" than pay what competent guy asks.
asciilifeform: incidentally, uzbek translator for usg must be a killer gig
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2015 01:24:58; asciilifeform: usg found two clinically certifiable imbeciles and now they have 'terrorists' in the dock
jurov: <asciilifeform> where's the stalingrad, damnit. << since usg is in hybrid warfare mostly with itself... no stalingrad possibly recognizable in that mess
asciilifeform: or say a shipment of petahash's worth of usg-commissioned miners sailing from taiwan ends up in hands of 'isis' because of a leaked key
asciilifeform: when the last usg fighter runs headlong into the last usg bomber, and the fireball takes out their last aerial tanker, we can say 'can't'
decimation: meanwhile actual usg can't even coordinate its own aircraft in its own airspace http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/tech/2015/02/25/cherry-point-assumes-air-traffic-control-responsibilities/23948767/
asciilifeform: usg is running on two centuries of plunder and exuberant technowankery, from which, granted, only fumes remain in the tank
decimation: note that usg only gains superpowers when she's trying to conduct a worldwide coordinated deception
asciilifeform: but usg does
asciilifeform: to usg.
asciilifeform: essentially, something so utterly catastrophic to usg that it could not possibly be a hangout ☟︎
asciilifeform: what'd count as a -real, indisputable- usg leak? example: info leading to perma-pwn of a whole constellation (hell, why not all of them) of usg orbiting junk
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would guess that the successful instances of actual merit wash, as opposed to usg being straight scammed, to be under 10%.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform uh, not what i meant. peron's usg is an usg exactly like obama's usg, right ?
asciilifeform: even usg, in the not too distant past, did this
asciilifeform: outside of usg - rules different, sure; foreigners invited to work their magic
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#506836 << example of me vomiting at proof-of-anything. but it seems to me now that there were not one but two usg 'monasteries' where the concept was developed ☝︎
ascii_field: you and i, if we were to try to sell usg a divination rod, would get laughed out
ascii_field: but i'll note that the traditional interpretation of this story ('look how gullible is usg') is nonsense
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: http://cryptome.org/2015/02/pay-any-price-chapter-2.pdf << mega-lulz re: usg idiocy
decimation: re: chromium plating weapons parts < I suspect that usg would do it if it were actually cost effective
asciilifeform: a 'terrorist' for the purpose of this line of thought is anyone who is on track to being imprisoned by usg under charge of 'terrorism.'
asciilifeform: usg found two clinically certifiable imbeciles and now they have 'terrorists' in the dock ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 20:54:13; asciilifeform: merely suggesting that an official statement from usg has the same credibility as the testimony of a habitual mugger who's been in and out of jails since he was 8 y.o., given upon apprehension at 4am in an alley
asciilifeform accustomed to perverse usg use of word 'private' rather than the dictionary meaning
asciilifeform: merely suggesting that an official statement from usg has the same credibility as the testimony of a habitual mugger who's been in and out of jails since he was 8 y.o., given upon apprehension at 4am in an alley ☟︎
asciilifeform: punkman: much of what i call usg consists, on paper, of 'private' concerns
asciilifeform: because, possibly, found to have been planning some action to which there is no convenient, clean usg response.
asciilifeform: that is, someone who created problems for usg
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, guy who came up with USG's currrent rifle prototype did so during time when USia discovered the wonders of hallucinogenics
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as far as i understand, usg's refusal to adopt the correct solution, the gas piston, was pure nationalistic lunacy and little else
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it was clear to anyone who gives a fuck that usg would target ammunition, rather than small arms per se, when it 'gets serious' ☟︎
lobbes: pete_dushenski: yeah, I received an email from Dwolla the other day about them partnering with usg.. made me happy I never did any transactions with them.
mircea_popescu: "pull together" usg.
asciilifeform: l0l 'fantasy usg'
mircea_popescu: sure, we'll pull together : come swear fealty to me. bring me your daughters, let me name the head of each usg agency
decimation: 'one point of view is that usg should have all ur bits'
decimation: that's a good point, usg cannot simultaneously recognize another sovereign country and also say 'give legit rulers all ur bits'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cisco dead << still crown-blessed, usg supply alone could feed it sov. factory style till the bitter end
mircea_popescu: mike_c cisco pretty much imploded once it became clear they're working for the usg against their customers.
pete_dushenski: "Morgan Stanley to Pay $2.6 Billion to Settle Mortgage Cases" << more usg tax collection
pete_dushenski: usg's gotta throw all its turds at the wall
BingoBoingo: "Streaming Video" and online gaming are the USG approved application of surplus bandwidth
ascii_field: orlov, interestingly, argued that high speed net is key in the modern usg 'panem et circenses' program and will chug along long after problems with supplying the basics of life have begun
mircea_popescu: nah, because a) the usg doesn't care to steer you a particular direction. it only wants you to not move - it's a bureaucracy after all, it has no resources to deal with change, nor can change mean anything but it's ass ; b) the illusion of free wheeling is what's important.
jurov: dunno better comparison to pki would be a car without steering whell, steered by usg
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2015#1033125 << what we've learneds is to take the usg party at the opposite of its word. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: this is simply what usg... is << i actually have a more psychotropic theory. basically, on some subconscious level, us knows it's become uss. and what it wants is, the validation of "well i didn't do anything useful, but at least the stupid thing i did i did WELL". this to be obtained, in the way such nonsense works, by confronting the symbolic representative thereof and "winning".
asciilifeform: idk if these folks run the phillipino content farms, but they are almost certainly the shepherds of the usg db with palmprints linked to blockchain tx from idiots
asciilifeform: the way usg contracting works, folks eager-to-please get preemptively down on their knees
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.noblis.org << usg dept. of btcdiddlery - incidentally.
mircea_popescu: decimation: "Oh I'm totally an awesome diplomat, look at my years of usg experience!" << this lol.
asciilifeform: (from vintage quasi-usg catalogue, http://www.tscm.freeservers.com/stu.html - apparently this has 'always' been on the net)
asciilifeform: this is simply what usg... is. at least since it was grown enough to even -have- a foreign policy.
decimation: asciilifeform: why does usg keep wanting to bring back the cold war? nostalgia?
decimation: unfortunately, this means that the current population of the military is strongly selected for nominal loyalty to usg
decimation: "Oh I'm totally an awesome diplomat, look at my years of usg experience!"
decimation: one wonders how many usg state department officers would be hired by other countries if usg went bankrupt
ascii_field: porn - a-ok in usa; viewing porn without usg permanent record of the act - nope
ascii_field: it is deceptively easy to avoid the problems of usg academia if you aren't trying to deal with the question of how folks are to eat. just like it is very easy for an electromobile to 'not pollute' - superficially - because it lacks a tailpipe
ascii_field: the basic cockroach in the soup is that traditional academia fights for usg table scraps
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2015 15:36:32; jurov: virile males are completely undesirable in usg
jurov: virile males are completely undesirable in usg ☟︎
asciilifeform ianal but thought 'easements' were sop, even for usg
asciilifeform: ^ re: 'golden age' usg
decimation: ben_vulpes: usg will 'pay' for R&D, so "R&D" is what you get :)
BingoBoingo: Still way too many ways for USG to hang an honest barrister
BingoBoingo: <decimation> being a usg shill in a foreign country would be depressing as hell <, For sure, no point traveling if you can't try 50 shades of poon
decimation: being a usg shill in a foreign country would be depressing as hell
decimation: mats: see the world, usg pays
decimation: my experience is that grad school, if worthwhile, is usually paid for by employers or usg
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the guy who wrote templeos is living on that racket << terry davis. and schizophrenia is still one of the more reliable ways a white man can get usg payola. though it's still an 'achievement', on part with getting a $1M research grant on your lonesome << Who knows, if it wasn't for glorious tobacco maybe I'd be on that golden ticket
asciilifeform: the guy who wrote templeos is living on that racket << terry davis. and schizophrenia is still one of the more reliable ways a white man can get usg payola. though it's still an 'achievement', on part with getting a $1M research grant on your lonesome
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ...but a leech ? a leech is a revolutionary. << usg welfare folks aren't leeches, they're employees. (what're they paid for? ask tlp.)
danielpbarron: is it possible to get money from USG without strings attached?
asciilifeform: (usg term for the classic dungeon where you get to sit alone)
mircea_popescu: baby boomers checked out of society, their kids were raised by the tv set, the result is the current usg.
asciilifeform: http://www.securityinfowatch.com/directory/perimeter-security-physical-hardening << giant catalogue of usg auschwitzmatics
asciilifeform: builders sc4mz0r3d usg
asciilifeform: and afaik nobody cancelled bunkers, but the 'golden age of usg' gigantomania is gone.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> The "critical" employees would be working without the expectation of receiving a pay check. << not really << check it out, usg trying to steal b-a.
ascii_field: jurov: i still don't get why usg would use anything other than the most 'respectable' root certs ('verisign' et al) for their shenanigans
asciilifeform: any 'plum book' usg
asciilifeform: unbalanced: the reason for this is the elementary fact that, while virtually all victims of usg ops are dumb enough to run winblows, not all of them are so exquisitely stupid as to use the install that came in the crate
mircea_popescu: alf's forced theory is that he got paid infinity whores & blows to run all the meta-usg
mircea_popescu: gunnery sargeant hartmann usg