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BingoBoingo: <phf> but we don't even have an equivalent of "great thing until it wasn't" produced by tmsr << BitBet follows, but was produced by TMSR blastocyst
asciilifeform: phf: i reread that piece just a few days ago
mircea_popescu: phf no i know. my whole point was that it works as intended.
asciilifeform: phf: if you're deciphering and putting result (in the 'yes' or 'fail' sense) somewhere enemy can see it - then eys.
asciilifeform: phf: ~no one every does, until it is far too late.
asciilifeform: ~everyone here, phf, asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, et al, has his own chamber of unreleased horrors. this is right and proper.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 14:15 phf: particular transport. never the less when the conversation about current spec comes in you are eager to point out how spec is useless. it's a significant effort to drone you out long enough to actually attempt the implementation, and since in my experience attempting the implementation is a significant step in grokking, i think you repeating the same point over and over again actually lowers overall snr.
mircea_popescu: phf also, let me register with you my displeasure at you abusing "gothic". it really dun mean what lj thinks it means.
mircea_popescu: phf he doesn't even specifically want to become a scourge. he wants to "they should be punished" ; and "to become a dictator". essentially, like any good liberal/socialist, he JUST WANTS THE STATE TO.
mircea_popescu: phf that's not what mr elliot said though.
mircea_popescu: phf define evil
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 03:53 phf: he's like an incredibly dull, millenial take on a gothic hero, a modern day maldoror
asciilifeform: phf: my published positions re x11 concern the machines ~i presently use~
asciilifeform: phf: the handful of interesting aspects (single-packet friend-or-foe, no tcp) were outlined here.
asciilifeform: phf: correct.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 12:50 phf: it can be construed as trust if you don't anything beyond what i said, so i also said that there's no trust. of course that's only my interpretation and asciilifeform can provide his own
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 01:10 phf: adlai: i think gossip spec is fine, just nobody took it to release. asciilifeform has significant changes to the spec, but if you ignore those you can still build a working implementation. in fact, unless you're ascii, i think it's better to ignore further discussion and just stick to what mp wrote. i also think it's one of those ideas you don't want nailed down at protocol level. mine for example slings gpg packets
mircea_popescu: phf word.
BingoBoingo: phf: The pollsters say millenials are actually not fucking very much. Too much world of snapchat.
asciilifeform: phf: but they did not, going by the telling, hate ~him~
mircea_popescu: phf kk
mircea_popescu: phf you available to give peter l some pointers re osx build process in #eulora ?
trinque: phf: yep, those.
mircea_popescu: phf in practice, once tmsr-rsa is here, i'd expect to do exactly the "sling packets" thing
asciilifeform: phf: log dead ?
asciilifeform: and iirc phf also had one.
asciilifeform: phf: does your copy verify by hand ?
asciilifeform: perhaps phf struck gold ?
asciilifeform: phf: do you have a (safety 0) in there or wat
asciilifeform: phf: is this a routine cmuclism ?
asciilifeform: phf: on the level of ft meade's 'star trek captain's chair' (one of the recent demented generals literally had one installed) - quite certainly.
BingoBoingo: phf: At this point it seems all the Muricans want to be "The Hunter S. Thompson of" X
BingoBoingo: phf: Kinda why I switched to Library School on a different campus. That and the "hold pattern for a decade and phd" thing lost its appeal.
BingoBoingo: phf: Amazing! When I was in a graduate philosophy program it was dominated by the same ethos!!! Also, there's always one or more polish students in philosophy program.
mircea_popescu: phf it helps if you THINK about it.
asciilifeform: i read phf's thing as simply 'you are counting on other side not to simply lose the plaintext, and not to shoot out both of your feet by sending an intended signed ciphrogram in the clear'
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 18:26 phf: well, that's not a noshit for every reader i suppose. if you gnupg with an incompetent person you might end up with things that you want explicitly hidden on record "beyond a reasonable doubt". shit if you gnupg with competent person you ought to think twice what to send, and if tradititional public premediated c&c is a better option
thestringpuller: phf this is level design.
asciilifeform: phf: and, granted, nobody is storing 1TB of otp inside his head.
asciilifeform: phf: where i argued that the ~only~ genuine advantage of a physical key is that it is possible to destroy the only copy
asciilifeform: phf: do you remember the 'brainwallet' thread ?
asciilifeform: phf: the damage that can be wrought by folks whose hands grow out of arse, is staggering, and more so the more powerful the instrument.
asciilifeform: phf: the thing is necessarily as strong as the weaker party, yes
mircea_popescu: phf i don't want to hide anything.
asciilifeform: phf: this is quite spiffy, but not yet enough to make me use erc.
asciilifeform: phf: it is how my vtron worked.
mircea_popescu: because references everywhere! that phf added hand thing was geniusz
mircea_popescu: ok phf that's beautiful. i fucking miss winter.
asciilifeform: phf: we had, by same token, junk from finland and czechoslovakia.
mircea_popescu: phf i had no idea.
asciilifeform: or phf, when his orbit intersects with yours.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 22:25 phf: proud product of hozshitnarprod, izhevsk
asciilifeform: which is why phf can buy airplane ticket and celebrate new year twice in a year.
asciilifeform: phf: when you make use of a timestamp, you are also asking ~other~ people to trust clock not to fuck ~them~ over.
phf: trinque: well, since it's only order of your own rates that's important (rather than global rate order), then you can keep own sequence. 1.rate.phf.-1.doofus, 2.rate.phf.3.actually i take that back. you can just use timestamp if you trust your clock to not fuck you over
trinque: phf: ftr I wholly support this idea, and in this scheme it's not global time that matters; it's when deedbot saw the material.
trinque: phf and I have briefly discussed it
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf http://www.apmex.com/category/61100/1-000-frns-1928-1934 << lulzy re earlier thread.
mircea_popescu: phf by and large the deep driver being that girls at that age suck, being as they are ~marmots. babyfat bubbles on uneasy legs.
mircea_popescu: phf that was a banned maneuver in my place.
mircea_popescu: aha phf has it.
asciilifeform: phf: holy shit, i half-suspected i had the last extant examples.
asciilifeform: phf: these never circulated
asciilifeform: phf: not comparable
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 00:57 phf: "Versions of GnuPG before 1.4.11 and 2.0.16 allowed to import bogus direct key signatures."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> phf intel says "roosh", ie some middle eastern looking kid.\ << Looks like he's trying too hard is my impression. Maybe becomes something if CLitler is elected.
mircea_popescu: phf intel says "roosh", ie some middle eastern looking kid.\
mircea_popescu: phf fellow looks quite intelligent there.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 17:35 a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 16:40 phf: asciilifeform: that attention from fundraiser and marketing that gabriel_laddel was so excited about ~obviously~ attracted not talent, but the usual modernizer suspects. i'm reading their channel logs and marvel.
asciilifeform: phf: even as late as late '90s, machines with such 'feel' were made. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and yes phf that last batch of sinners includes asciilifeform , just that he is not buying vaxen etc.
asciilifeform: phf: the bolix was a special, really, case
pete_dushenski: phf: 'my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard'
ben_vulpes: phf: i'd take one
shinohai: phf There was Eddie Bauer edition Ford Explorer iirc, speaking of SUV's
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 16:40 phf: asciilifeform: that attention from fundraiser and marketing that gabriel_laddel was so excited about ~obviously~ attracted not talent, but the usual modernizer suspects. i'm reading their channel logs and marvel. ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: the 'grabs a broom and a bucket and cleans it' incidentally is more or less the story of my 1st year of trb.
asciilifeform: phf: 'Разруха. Это - мираж, дым, фикция. Что такое эта ваша разруха? Старуха с клюкой? Ведьма, которая выбила все стекла, потушила все лампы? Да ее вовсе и не существует. Это вот что: если я, вместо того, чтобы оперировать каждый вечер, начну у себя
asciilifeform: actually phf made an imho quite persuasive defense of cmucl.
asciilifeform: phf: if we discover that the only way to have a usably snappy clim is custom iron, i am willing to consider custom iron.
asciilifeform: phf: 'fresh meat in the sun'
asciilifeform: phf: eons have passed since i last could be arsed to read clim. what happened ?
mircea_popescu: phf nah. half gb is ample.
mircea_popescu: phf i dun think that ever happened to trilema.
asciilifeform: phf: at one point i got 1,001 of these daily
asciilifeform: phf: i guessed as much.
mircea_popescu: phf they prolly put you behind cloudflare/homebrewed equivalent as a service or somesuch.
asciilifeform: (what does phf's wwwtronics stack do when there is no available worker? or how does it work)
diana_coman: phf, sounds cool
asciilifeform: phf: interestingly, it was 404 for about half a minute.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-22 03:11 phf: i say it's a chicken and egg problem, because you know you can get vendor versions of posix tools (and then still reduce the available "language" even more, by taking away some features that might be missing in nominally posix sh on some obscure system), but you can't really do anything else, until you established some truths about your environment
shinohai: I like phf's setup, it is simple to go in and find which patches I need/don't need.
asciilifeform: (the latter was already implemented by phf and worx great)
diana_coman: phf, this is all I found, back before my time indeed: http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-15.log.html#t18:47:02 and http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-08-29.log.html#t19:13:13
diana_coman: I'll search the logs to find phf's pointer and have a look at it
diana_coman: phf mircea_popescu I think that was probably before my time really
BingoBoingo: <phf> i think crystal whatever is particularly nasty take on autoconf, probably one of the best examples in support of asciilifeform's rants. << Nah, "Monero" is far worse because of what it supposes to be.
mircea_popescu: phf eulora can't pull current cs because they fucked it up. so i wouldn't know.
mircea_popescu: phf once management has put compatibility on your list of targets, you can say that all you want, best done in a mutter under own beard.
mircea_popescu: phf question is why wasn't it made saner.