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BingoBoingo getting clean air before making one last dive into the corral of mediocrity
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/12/linux-org-domain-hijacked-to-show-hairy-butthole/ << Qntra -- Linux.org Domain Hijacked To Show Hairy Butthole
diana_coman: trinque, running the cuntoo script as root on Gentoo laptop with ./bootstrap.sh -k config/4.9.95-apu2 -d /dev/sdb where the laptop's own system is on /dev/sda and that /dev/sdb is an external drive connected via USB; all the partitioning+compilations seem to work fine but at the end the make_portage_tree script fails for lack of stuff and looking a bit higher up in the output I get this: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mbkqu/?raw=true ☟︎
lobbes: ^^ lemme know if you end up needing the post-by-post history and I can shoot that over too
lobbesbot: lobbes: The operation succeeded.
lobbes: !Qlater tell spyked http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rOvJB/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: yes, he can apply to boss man to be moved from silverware detail to apendicitis tickling, or vice-versa, to cotton pickin'. but as long as there's the three ring binder, servile profession stays servile profession, and not calling it slavery's exactly like calling the guatemalan sinkhole in your livingroom "my girlfriend". the calling dun change nothing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: um south" slave who'll pick cotton, exactly as much and not an iota more or less as there's cotton to be picked, and will brush silverware exactly as much and not an iota more or less as there's silverware to brush.
mircea_popescu: the difference is that some do what they will and the rest do what they can. that's it, and there's no talking out of it available, the surgeon will operate a case of apendicitis every single time a case of apendicits walks in the er door. not a single time less nor a single time more. "nobody asks him" in this exact sense, he'll do what there's to be done according to the book of his slavery, much EXACRTLY like the "antebell
mircea_popescu: the question is not "whether slave has some leeway". all living things always have some leway. the question is, in romanian, "desteptu' face bani din ce doreste, prostu' din ce poate" ; and in latin, "si quis, inquis, dives est, tum cenare potest cum cupit. si pauper, tum cenare debet cum potest."
mircea_popescu: nor can this be dispelled by anecdotal example. ~of fucking course~ there's 90yos you'd love to have dinner with. few and fart between.
mircea_popescu: being old sucks, and this isn't going to change by how you package the old folks. it's not "serenity cedars" or whatever stupid name's fault that there's no great 90yo strippers, or wrestlers, or whatever the fuck. no reforming of retirement homes is gonna make senior citizens a pleasure to drive behind. and so on.
mircea_popescu: much like the fact that old people will either be found loitering in old people homes or else loitering in parks and train stations isn't possibly an indictment of old people homes ; but of old age.
mircea_popescu: ment of slavery as an institution, but to an indictment of blackness as an ethnicity.
mircea_popescu: to sum up : "antebellum slaves" weren't "some people with absolutely no options". they were "some people whose continued existence depends on ~others~ maintaining an ecosystem for them". their "freed" descendants replicated the original situation exactly, they're came up with "the rap industry" to "tryna make it in", an' when clinton gave them free houses they failed to keep up with the payments. this doesn't sum to an indict
mircea_popescu: (cursory examination failed to turn up the actual item, was maybe 2016 vintage ; meanwhile snowed in by >9000 inconsequential tidbits a la https://elaineou.com/2018/12/01/dont-hate-her-because-she-commissioned-opposition-research-on-george-soros/ https://elaineou.com/2018/11/27/a-bitcoin-is-forever/ etc. spoiler : 2 out of past 3 offerings, rewritten "in own words" tlp articles, pete dushenski style.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's exactly no difference between scarlet o'hara's mammy and that elaineou chick';s story about how she didn't get subtype x of brand y of packaged "food" at office because she got it at home and she wanted ~some way~ to distinguish between the two.
mircea_popescu: sure, and slaves can decide whether they're gonna wear rag A or rag B.
mats: if you're actually good at what you do, you can have some limited control over decisions that affect you
mats: i understand the pedagogical purpose of what you're saying
mats: doctors are asked to decide what their specialization will be, what grants they are looking to pursue in order to undertake some research
mats: its normal for lieutenants to be asked whether they're looking to go command track, staff; what their top 3 stations are; ncos can volunteer for special billets like recruiting, babysitting privates as instructors, embassy duty, going through various schools under jsoc, ...
mircea_popescu: when's the last time you ever heard anyone ask a sailor/doctor/starlet/best grip/screenwriter/whatever what ~they~ would want to do ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 23:32 mircea_popescu: to restate in these terms, "two young males, fractional '''girlfriend''' they'd have to pay to get rid of, living with parents, hoping to be one day paid by inca for the useless '''work''' they want to do" etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-26#1875076 discussion very much apropos. there's either domestic slave, or domestic liability. "wife" "girlfriend" "significant other" bla bla bla sad if transparent attempts at confounding the issue through labels. "oh, it's not directly evident if i mean she's the head of the household or the drain in the balance sheet". "no, actually, i think i can tell". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: contrary to what overexicted emotards like to pretend, there ~isn't~ a third.
mircea_popescu: in any case, the best possible thing you can be is property. the alternative is being a liability.
mircea_popescu: humans generally work terribly poorly on the 2nd perspective.
mircea_popescu: slavery is "do what you're fucking told to do". the only available alternative is "figure out something for you to do".
mats: perhaps a definition of terms is in order - i consider slavery the keeping of humans as property, distinct from slavery in teh manner of the old testament, indentured servitude with timed expiry, 'jubilee'
mats: is this second bit a political or economic argument
mircea_popescu: many things can ONLY be done by slave labour. such as, making a film worth watching. or running a hospital, or a ship at sea, etc.
mircea_popescu: mats they kept blacks.
mats: keeping slaves in usa was problematic in the antebellum period, due to the increasingly common, unpredictable and malignant uprisings
mats: to expound on that more, i'm not able to readily wrap my brain around how keeping slaves as property can be a +ev activity with low variance
mats: according to frankopan, anyway.
mats: astonished by how early successes of teh venetians and rus, were singularly driven by willingness to sell future generations of their enemies, neighbors, children into captivity, and later, protection rackets
mircea_popescu: aha! and in romanian, "harap", literally slave, transliterates "arab".
mats: also learned that the arabic word for eunuch (siqlabi) comes from the ethnic label referring to slavs (saqalibi)
mircea_popescu: survived in english and french up to 1800s or so, but usually in formal private epistolary, "i remain..." etc.
mircea_popescu: the transylvanian most common greeting ("servus") literally means "servant" and is a contraction of the upper clas overpolite "i am your most humble servant" expression.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of this in 16th century courtly southern yurp behaviour
mats: i learned today that ciao, from the venetian dialect 'schiavo', means 'i am your slave'
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/how-to-piss-me-the-fuck-off-a-guide/ << Trilema -- How to piss me the fuck off -- a guide
mircea_popescu: what's left is the question of whether they do in fact do the same thing, cuz it dun seem so to me.
BingoBoingo: Kinda like adult woman response to pedophiles
mircea_popescu: possibly it's the actual substance of gender identity, "when girls do x i find it tolerable, when bois do it i find it unbearable" "so you're male ?" ☟︎
BingoBoingo: They just want their rock to crawl under and die quietly
BingoBoingo: Some boys stumble into the door of the reshaping the world room here, and intensly nope the fuck out
BingoBoingo: The boys are just slowly dying of nothing in particular and lashing out in ways that carefully avoid the masculine imperative to reshape the world for fun and profit
BingoBoingo: The boys... don't have any of that
BingoBoingo: I'm probably somewhat off, but it seems there is something almost adorable in the way girls will cherish their articles of poverty into a protective insulating bubble. And generally they can get by on their little whatever. They've got the hardware to hold the cognitive dissonance without completely self destructing.
mircea_popescu: not even sure that's it. tbh i have nfi what it is.
BingoBoingo: Sure, the girles might not have much, but they cherish their not that much. The boys hallucinate their optionality out of straight up nothing.
mircea_popescu: but at least this is mildly entertaining idiocy.
mircea_popescu: what the FUCK "boyfriend" can some 20yo moron from the us have ? they go on fucking dates, and if he sees me crossing the street once he browns his pants slightly ?
mircea_popescu: fresh delivery : --zzz-- 23F sub 40m "How about I bet my boy frend to abduct you and rape you Not even kidding :)"
BingoBoingo: Indeed there are.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 22:13 danielpbarron: that wouldn't be the worst thing
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 23:37 mircea_popescu: LordMPofTMSR 38M Master 3h "Think of it as an intelligence test. That you're failing." Violet13s 21F sub 3h 'Well whatever you said in the subject box I can't see so I have no idea what " intelligence test " your trying to have me show you. So I'm not really failing, if you want to find out my intelligence you should just message it.'
mircea_popescu: there's about ten thousand fucking miles between http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878087 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877614 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: i tell you truthfully, no case of femtarded "oh i make choices, have oppinions blablabla" out of thousands in the same interval infuriate nearly anywhere near the level of a zx2c4 or a l0de or whatever other such example.
mircea_popescu: see, my fetlife morons are WAY THE FUCK SMARTER, in their bovine idiocy & petriferous lassitude, than these utter fucktards.
BingoBoingo: Derps are going to herp
mircea_popescu: " I was trying to have to pay taxes as far away as possible. So, I decided to wait till New Year's Eve and started liquidating my crypto on January 1st" jesus.
mircea_popescu: gotta be shaken out of the space, what. these morons don't belong "in crypto" anymore than they belong in #trilema. hence http://trilema.com/2016/thats-right-time-to-move-on-please-do-bitcoin-is-really-not-for-you/#selection-139.2-143.30
a111: Logged on 2018-11-20 18:55 asciilifeform: evidently their extraction engine ~does~ work, or waterfall would have long ago dried
a111: Logged on 2018-11-27 20:59 a111: Logged on 2015-05-25 23:50 assbot: You rated user grubles on 23-Dec-2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: Disingenuous at best. One of the large group of everyday nitwits that wandered into Bitcoin early on enough so as to end up with a much larger momentary fortune than their limited brainpower could support. After squandering it through the usual means, they prefer to pretend their funciar stupidity is someone else's fault..
mircea_popescu: Posted byu/mijalis Crypto God | BTC: 21 QC 7 hours ago "Lessons learned - Crypto and Divorce - In January I was a millionaire thanks to BTC, then my wife divorces me and now I have $30,000 AMA" << http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-27#1875524 slash http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-20#1873926 yes ? ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: spyked not so much a bug, traditional behaviour on adding ~new~ feeds, because people generally want to see a few articles from a new source. however, "old" feeds so to speak don't need it. so maybe have just a knob for you, doesn'teven need to be exposed to general public, to make the distinction between normal (hey, new guy added) and exceptional (importing other bot's feeds) regimes.
diana_coman: other than that it looks fine to me
spyked: this is a good point tho: the spam-on-first-subscription behaviour sounds like bug and I'll add in the hopper for fixing.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-08 01:18 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-07#1878913 << this may work; there's only ~5 feeds iirc. Question is: would using the !1subscribe method flood the channel with old blog posts, or would it just grab the new ones?
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-08#1879046 <-- hm. feedbot sends rss entries that aren't previously in the db, so it'll spam on the first !1subscribe. so in this case it's better to send me a list of the feeds and I'll add them manually. ☝︎
lobbes: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/10/auctionbot-is-live/ << at the suggestion of a few people, I've updated the bot help page to be a little more helpful. Command explanations are a little meatier and an additional likbez added to the end.
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=99 << Bimbo.Club -- TMSR Log Summary - 11/18/2018
mircea_popescu: OleanderBloom 21F Exploring 3m "I do apologize for seeming unintelligent, and I must also politely decline the offer. I am not polyamourous. I do however hope you find another new edition to your existing relationships. :)"
a111: Logged on 2018-12-07 16:15 spyked: lobbes, if there aren't more than a couple of feeds, I could also have it join #eulora and you can !1 subscribe feed at your convenience.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-07#1878913 << this may work; there's only ~5 feeds iirc. Question is: would using the !1subscribe method flood the channel with old blog posts, or would it just grab the new ones? ☝︎☟︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-november-2018-statement/ << Trilema -- MiniGame (S.MG), November 2018 Statement
mircea_popescu: by then...
asciilifeform: iirc ro didn't start throwing folx back until dej
mircea_popescu: Князь Потёмкин Таврический, you know, the silent film.
mircea_popescu: yes, traditionally in english "the army" means the army, as opposed to navy, airforce or marines etc.
asciilifeform: upstack, why is it that 'kiel sailors' != 'army' ? or on mircea_popescu's planet 'army' specifically means infantry ? ( on mine, it's broad brush for errybody who subject to mil discipline, uniform, under command of the nominal crown )
mircea_popescu: and "why not applied" never separate or separable question. always delivered in a package with all other answers : "because there wasn't who".
mircea_popescu: right. because, again, 'while(cops willing to larp) kill()'.
mircea_popescu: or what, magically "palestine never turned tide" and ALSO "never heard of this afghanistan place-where-empires-go-to-die" simultaneously now !?
asciilifeform: aha, or the serb baker with old s-100 vs reagan's $1b flying brick
mircea_popescu: experimentally, dozen doods with box cutters > usg "intelligence ocmmunity", two decades ago.
asciilifeform: whoknows, maybe 5 d00dz with molotovs > regular fr army, at this pt
mircea_popescu: in the specific case of weimar, it was sailors, specifically kiel sailors. ie, "not army". and so on, whoever it will have been it'll always have been the men present.
asciilifeform: i suppose if next week -- fr revolution, macron guillotined, nato expelled, etc -- i'ma have to eat hat
mircea_popescu: "oh, but briefly previously this very same H was labeled ''planet x''." so what the fuck ?
mircea_popescu: who the fuck else ?!
mircea_popescu: yes, the MEN THERE PRESENT will do the killing.
mircea_popescu: holy shit man, star is made out of H. that's what H is, starmaker.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing! think for a second : "i don't know of a case of a star created out of either foreign material or accreted local material"
asciilifeform: what i dun know of is any examples where the killin' wasn't done largely by orig regime's nominal armies with flipped sign bit.
mircea_popescu: coming back with a "oh, but people died of rock crushing in ancient egypt more than now" is a very weird approach.