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asciilifeform: '...To the authors’ knowledge, the only known prime generation algorithm for which the statistical distance to the uniform distribution can be bounded is the trivial one: pick a random (odd) integer in the desired interval, return it if it is prime, and try again otherwise. The output distribution of this algorithm is exactly uniform... ...By contrast, the PRIMEINC algorithm... pick a random number and increase it until a prime is
asciilifeform: meanwhile, elsewhere,
asciilifeform: oaep
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we dun have a bounded crapola-to-prime converter. was sorta the orig thread the mauerer thing was a continuation of.
asciilifeform: wassat
asciilifeform: 'P'
asciilifeform: well yes, that's another op.
asciilifeform: fills fz on top of stack up from fg.
asciilifeform: just fg
asciilifeform: ( not hard to guess what it does )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: adult p has a '?' op
asciilifeform: eventually prolly implement
asciilifeform: i'm not satisfied that it's good for anyffin
asciilifeform: dunnoyet.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-05#1188842 << possibly see also. ☝︎
asciilifeform: inbandism!
asciilifeform: did somebody turn over some old firewood or wat.
asciilifeform: vpn/privateinternetaccess/aegis << ahahahahalol
asciilifeform: that last appeared to nod to ninjashotgun.
asciilifeform: !#s from:aegis
asciilifeform: btw here's a lul : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-02#741001 ☝︎
asciilifeform used thermal tape for meatspace otps for some yrs
asciilifeform: thermal tape dun burn quite as well as ordinary paper ( heat treated ) but it burns ok in a propane or butane flame, or with other accelerant
asciilifeform: ( orig 414 was made for use in industrial, medical gear. )
asciilifeform: hence the mention of the item.
asciilifeform: classical su-style otp.
asciilifeform: simultaneous print aha
asciilifeform: make split-cable to feed 2 seikos
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: aha they're sold in 60metre roll
asciilifeform: cute little thing. even has battery compartment ( for if mains give out , to finish birthing the buffer... )
asciilifeform: eats 110mm tape.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're sold by the pallet-full at surpluseries, too.
asciilifeform: for otp-makin'
asciilifeform: theoretically this beast will print straight from a (downclocked, change 1ln in fg.v) FUCKGOATS ~sans computer~
asciilifeform: in other oldies, seiko's 'DPU414' thermal printer, can be had for <fiddybux, and not only prints 80cols x infinity (continuous tape) but knows how to eat rs232 and... print hexdump (up to 19200 baud) ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: hey i dun kill them butterflies, they die by themselves
asciilifeform: i collect these.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1763687 ☝︎
asciilifeform: aaapparently
asciilifeform: wtf is in a 'common pc'
asciilifeform: like the wireless ukrs
asciilifeform: so ancient that nothing remains lol
asciilifeform: the koreans sum to ~0, whocares
asciilifeform: where e.g. folx with 40 yrs of mathematics, honest research, etc in'em... perma-stuck in winblowz
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's even worse in the ru world
asciilifeform: wassat
asciilifeform found the item by digging in re 'what is state of the art in guaranteed-prime-generators', in particular 'does anybody have anything resembling an approach to a provably uniform one'
asciilifeform: about as practical as iteration from 1 to sqrt(n).
asciilifeform: sun burns out first.
asciilifeform: but indeed author 'oughta be here'
asciilifeform: ( it's a schneierism )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plugging prng in the place of the rng != deterministic algo in the civilized sense
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fullsized boxen first
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767477 >> https://stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#06_October_2011_%28Steve_Jobs%29 ☝︎
asciilifeform: aha. given correct human-readables, you can always make a mechanism. but very muchly not vice-versa ☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6: the discussion of disassembly was a separate one, concerning audit of 'wtf actually comes out of this-here gnat'
asciilifeform: without an ada compiler at all.
asciilifeform: it is a simple guide to the making of sane arithmetron. that can be hand-compiled with reasonable effort to whatever arch.
asciilifeform: it is worth to keep in mind that ffa is , to steal from knuth, 'for readers to read first, and for machine to execute second'
asciilifeform: and yes you also get to unroll for particular bitness
asciilifeform: mod6: in a from-the-ground asming, you dun need to do the ruinously expensive synthetic carryflag thing
asciilifeform: mod6: separate project.
asciilifeform: this being said, whether to build with -gnatp is personal choice of the operator. not mine.
asciilifeform: ( ffa specifically. in ffa_calc, very obviously they do , in the stack mechanism . however the inner loops, i.e. 99.9999...% of the time is spent, in ffa proper. )
asciilifeform: ffa is one of the very few ( i dun expect to see another ) proggies where you can prove bounds. because the array indices do not EVER depend on the inputs.
asciilifeform: figure applies to errything. i.e. for any given nontrivial ada proggy, the cost of the checks is about 2x.
asciilifeform: experiment was in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-06#1766136 . ☝︎
asciilifeform: unroll?
asciilifeform: ( see also https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.6.1/gnat_ugn_unw/Run_002dTime-Checks.html )
asciilifeform: in other experimental noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-06#1766135 >> -gnatp ( max danger moad ) is ~2x measured speedup. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform also!
asciilifeform: but i've nfi.
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's admittedly distant perch, loox as if cn knew the seekret of 'eternal '80s'
asciilifeform: ( re ck: oblig https://songstext.ru/tekst-pesni-huj-zabej-tualet-perevod-slova-pesni/ << circa '89! even )
asciilifeform: all they gotta do is step on fud gas, then unstep
asciilifeform: not clear to me what it costs chinese ck
asciilifeform: a sort of hydro plant powered by idjits.
asciilifeform: can do work.
asciilifeform: hey, if you have a switch that reliably moves the exch rate even slightly down, and when released -- back up -- that there's an engine.
asciilifeform: worx on the weakhands presumably
asciilifeform: they do it >1ce/yr nao
asciilifeform: upstack re chinese : not clear why anybody thinks this is not the 17th (or whatver, i lost count) iteration of ck-kpss's algo for snarfing up cheap coinz ('ban', buy, 'unban')
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if it is a total mystery what current-day machinery produced in the ludovic-13 cannon style look like. looks like lockheed et al
asciilifeform: right, e.g. cannon were mass-produced long before industry (in the mass-marketism sense)
asciilifeform: ( recall the 'mass production is a bug' thread )
asciilifeform: but also back then it was faberge egg (i.e. craftsmanship), rather than industry
asciilifeform: ahahaha
asciilifeform: laughably trivial. units on the market : 0.
asciilifeform: i'll observe that i can't yet buy a conventional-comp-that-is-waterheater either, even though it'd be quite handy ( i already have multi-kW water heater item )
asciilifeform: and yes.
asciilifeform: !#s china is a bug
asciilifeform: lol except for the ones disguised as bauxite refineries
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch4_ffacalc#L194 << from here , to end of ffa_calc.adb, whole mechanism.
asciilifeform: if you read ch4 you'll know all there is to know about it, it's simple, like kalash
asciilifeform: there you go
asciilifeform: !A .~#
asciilifeform: watch
asciilifeform: yes256
asciilifeform: lol!!