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mircea_popescu: it may well be that the $250 notional you made ain't worth the notional value of what you lost.
asciilifeform: and doesn't expect to make.
mircea_popescu: the cost to own, the cost to use, these fucking figure into the total cost. what good is it you got something 50 or 500 or 5000 bucks cheaper than "the average" if the average wasn't even correctly calculated and as a bonus you lose your horses die in the fire started by the wife's funeral candles ?!
mircea_popescu: the man who drives 10 miles out of his way to buy a tank of gas a cent cheaper does the exact fucking thing, "oh, it was cheaper gas". no it fucking wasn't.
mircea_popescu: as to a) : 1. you see an item for sale, for price X. 2. you don't even bother to calculate the expected-average-X, i suspect, but merely "intuit" it, without even a full second's thought. 3. you calculate X-imagined-avg-X thus obtaining a delta, which then motivates you to purchase, and in the process ALSO commits you.
mircea_popescu: the issue here is that a) you don't correctly account for costs, and that b) you don't correctly communicate.
mircea_popescu: the problem here isn't whether m-r is proven or not proven, to standard x or to standard y, now or later.
mircea_popescu: this is your problem here, see. like any mental problem, it has its articulations. to you i have no doubt this nonsense makes sense, "i can't promise one a week, i got a job".
mircea_popescu: or what is it, "lalala i can't hear it, dun count, not my problem" ?
mircea_popescu: again... did that make some sort of sense as an answer in your head, that was lost on its way to my head ? because i don't see it
mircea_popescu: now how do you expect me to explain to your shareholders that "you know what ? the reason you can't predict in january what you'll read early march is that [???]" ?
asciilifeform: the other half of this is that if weren't for asciilifeform's 'fuck themselves' loose cannon experimentation, half of what presently runs, wouldn't exist.
mircea_popescu: did that make some sort of sense as an answer in your head, that was lost on its way to my head ? because i don't see it.
trinque: https://emacs-china.org/t/trolls-on-apples-customer-support/7407 << possible chicom troll
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo there's no such "rejection by default". either she was rejected by someone specifically, or else she didn't even fucking apply.
mircea_popescu: rejected slavemeat's almost sad ; the escapists tho, they're the stupid cunts that "don't even have to".
asciilifeform: ...related convo from coupla days ago: pet: 'hey that's a woodchipper going by' a: 'aha' pet: 'how come it didn't stop, why aintcha in it' a: 'dunno, i guess not time yet'
asciilifeform has only the theory that in hitler's throne room, it was decided 'don't draw attention to republic existing', and this explains why mircea_popescu's collection of http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institutions-a-guide/ is thin, rather than enuff to stoke furnace with
mircea_popescu: which is how usg "prosecutor" doesn't have to explain why his office has lied ten thousand times in ten thousand courts.
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how this idiocy works. there isn't a "they themselves". femstate is built on this dreamy approach to secreted alt-reality where only convenient subsets are dealt with at any time.
mircea_popescu: it seems strategically sound, "oh, i betcha they couldn't fuck gcc/glibc without gnat -- well, what if it can be denied!!!"
asciilifeform: ( 'systemv' was the ancient at&t unix iirc )
mircea_popescu: the issue isn't "use of gnat", the issue is, defanging of gcc/glibc/shitgnome ecosystem.
mircea_popescu watched "old school" yest with the gals because i don't recall why. holy shit that's a transparent piece of femstate agitprop (not coincidentally, with the same crew as http://trilema.com/very-bad-things ) -- who could possibly pass on the "career woman" with a kid in tow and all that nonsense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you won't believe what else UAE-made : (if the crate is to be believed) -- that xray film.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it's the evening's entertainment for these folx. plug in the hoses, fire up the coals, turn on tv for background << The hookah/hose thing is a poor delivery device for pot. mircea_popescu's centerpiece that shoots deep into the lungs is the tool for pot. The hookah's more of a high margin impulse purchase trap that doesn't draw the shops aggro like most consumer US stuff is.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> problem with pot is that it doesn't kill them nearly fast enough. << True
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The sixties didn't have contemporary ganja nor the contemporary mass of dreamers, though the baby boomer generation was pretty dreamer fucked
mircea_popescu: problem with pot is that it doesn't kill them nearly fast enough.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it be ironic if that's the future, chinese-sponsored usg-"law"-immune extrateritorial teahouses in every county.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Replied again, but it isn't the game engines killing anything. It's that every "federation" and "governing body" that's captured competitive pursuits is femstate uterine scar tissue.
mircea_popescu: lotta things chinese did lot more honest. the black lotus retirement plan way the fuck more effectual, secure, reliable AND PLEASANT than https://i.eprci.net/thorazine-ad ; not to mention the chinese didn't give it to children.
mircea_popescu: the one important point, to my eyes, is that they don't seem to have much of the "face" problem. somehow. thirty years ago the whole fucking country'd have been up in arms, "give back our cunt!!!"
mircea_popescu: mice similarly don't seek out teh elephant nests of do bloody murder.
BingoBoingo: There's ritual involved. Can't start cutting right away.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-02#1900087 << possibly i'm thick, but i dunget why beijing doesn't catch a coupla dozen usg daughters and send'em to washington 1 finger at a time until the matter's resolved. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Don't forget the cock socks which they ignored in 2015 when the fork wars were derping up http://trilema.com/2015/prophylaxis/
mircea_popescu: "i haven't been doing my reading back in 2013-2014. this totally means the shit i don't understand in 2019 is fascinating to everyone else and important, rite guise ?!"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: We've flirted with that fact in the logs, and the story making the headline isn't earth shattering news, but... Gotta have something to link for that fact
mircea_popescu: diana_coman isn't it how it always goes... most of the "internet population" populating (by its own lights) the place sports a life expectancy insufficient to justify the genetic outlay of the average mouse.
asciilifeform: in other negative results , 'Fuji Super HR-T' film dun budge 1 whit under 'Cinestill DF96' developer. tho in principle oughta.
mircea_popescu: and yet, i keep encountering this apparently archetipical romanian -- coming up late to a party he can't even describe.
mircea_popescu: i retorted to him that if by this age he hasn't yet figured out such a place doesn't exist, there's no helping him.
mircea_popescu: romanian bloggers, i swear. showing up years late to a party they can't even describe.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-25 17:05 mircea_popescu: in any case, in 2011, as in 2001, as in 2021 i can say "academia romana keks" or http://trilema.com/2011/stimata-academie/ whatever ; but they can't say "trilema.com", because holy shit.
mircea_popescu: can't argue with you there.
mircea_popescu: no, i'm saying, this is the problem. if you don't have sufficient crystalline surface to provide separation, you end up with the microequivalent of a disco ball.
asciilifeform: you'd need a monochromatic beam (i.e. not what's in asciilifeform's brutal machine, naturally) but can't see why not in abstract worx
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but you don't get to distinguish ~one from another~.
mircea_popescu: but afaik this hasn't been seriously tried since diana_coman did it.
asciilifeform: apropos of nuffin : mircea_popescu can you think of any reason why laue diffraction wouldn't work on a ic die ? seems like nobody ever fessed up to having tried. what am i missing
mircea_popescu: their real value hasn't come up yet! they can't fucking die!
mircea_popescu: today they can't summon 50 people to go to venezuela, as soldiers. and back in http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea+mosul lulz days, they couldn't scare up 500.
mircea_popescu: the deeply "big zone bipedals ain't more human than any other cattle" feel of the pice is indicative. not of "police brutality", tho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you wouldn't want one if you found one . they're the orig 'you must crapple to upload files' item.
mircea_popescu: not that i don't admire efforts of people trying to make better web proxies ; but i think those efforts are slightly misdirected and grossly premature.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato. tho i did find that the arm build won't build a x86 gnat ( still afaik mystery )
a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 15:09 spyked: re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 , specifically glibc is gonna go from my machines once I encuntooate them. it's not yet clear to me how this will impact e.g. apache, which calls dlopen for its loadable modules thing. google didn't turn out anything on the subj either.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-01#1899892 << the xray setup is really for the pcb (not done yet, but film is here.) the ic shot is so possibly to figure out where to cut, right nao i have 3 ~different~ packages, so if i cut one and smash it , doesn't tell me anything useful re how to try again, it's a 'measure 7777 times, cut 1ce' situation. ☝︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899545 <-- ty, pill applied. tho I don't expect any automated attempts to get the thing occured, only the immediate post-publication 'imbulzeala' ☝︎
spyked: re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 , specifically glibc is gonna go from my machines once I encuntooate them. it's not yet clear to me how this will impact e.g. apache, which calls dlopen for its loadable modules thing. google didn't turn out anything on the subj either. ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897733 -> even stronger on this given the recent experiment since I can't see *any* reason for indulging zcx ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 16:07 mircea_popescu: c. ada-?-musl-static is the standard, either zcx or sjlj is acceptable (mostly based on what threading philosophy one embraces), with an obvious preference for zcx if one doesn't thread.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 << i've been building everything using ave1's gcc/gnat which is musl based. i don't see any reason to keep glibc ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: i put it in its coffin in 2015, with 'rotor' , and wasn't even aware that there was contemplation of keeping it alive until mircea_popescu asked last mo
a111: Logged on 2019-03-01 02:10 mircea_popescu: and speaking of that old discussion : let's remind the folk on http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 that there's relatively little point in being part of the lordship if one can't be arsed to at least say they don't wish to comment on some serious problem we run into.
asciilifeform: pretty sure it's a noise, i.e. one can't usefully milk the circuit from it
a111: Logged on 2019-02-28 20:59 bvt: i can try killing that code to see what happens -- i don't even understand why zcx won't just work, and there is no information on this problem in the whole internet
mircea_popescu: and speaking of that old discussion : let's remind the folk on http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897638 that there's relatively little point in being part of the lordship if one can't be arsed to at least say they don't wish to comment on some serious problem we run into. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 16:07 mircea_popescu: c. ada-?-musl-static is the standard, either zcx or sjlj is acceptable (mostly based on what threading philosophy one embraces), with an obvious preference for zcx if one doesn't thread.
mircea_popescu: argentines do this, and ima fucking napalm that shithole for it. because it just can't fucking be done, what "zcx" ? the name they were looking for is "snot".
mircea_popescu: "how dare you even call your aborted glob of misdesign SOMETHING AT ALL!" is the question. kids don't go around giving names to their lego constructions and then hacking everyone's gps to point to imaginary "City Of Wonderful Wonderments" 2x3 foot square.
mircea_popescu: also "what would you have moron do ???" "well, i didn't say he HAS to be wykeham professor of logic / chicago professor of constitutional law / whatever".
mircea_popescu: why'd i have them do anything ? africa's fulla africans who don't go around pompously pretending they're white people.
bvt: i can try killing that code to see what happens -- i don't even understand why zcx won't just work, and there is no information on this problem in the whole internet ☟︎
asciilifeform: bvt: zcx is broken ~by design~, it doesn't attempt to implement preemptive multitasking at all.
asciilifeform: last i looked, didn't turn up a leaked copy anywhere.
mircea_popescu: when will the fucktards learn we really don't buy the crap.
mircea_popescu: these, incidentally, are pretty brutal testing conditions. the average program isn't likely to go 20mn procedure calls deep (witness that almost nobody even knows how to move the stack limit in kernel).
diana_coman: and yes, I have no idea why zcx really, I can't see any reason for it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at the present juncture i can't actually tell. it seems to (very slightly) slow down loops while performing merely slightly better than sjlj with no handlers set.
mircea_popescu: the differences aren't huge, 121.9171600 vs 121.816518000 and 879.95117100 vs 879.7342540 sorta thing. but they are consistent.
asciilifeform: would look rather like the https://media.rs-online.com/t_large/F8268825-01.jpg heathen board
mircea_popescu: but the overarching thing here : you can't seriously expect to be doing this x ray stuff WITHOUT blowing dust off either h's matrices or the wavefunction.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 19:56 asciilifeform: phf: and wasn't 'week ago', but year + 3mo ago, when i took delivery of the 2 raw ivories.
mircea_popescu: very much apropos, that discussion of the error of going back on the tree, which now i can't find.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i read it, i read it. didn't surprise, either. "windows nt in javascript" or what was it.
asciilifeform: it won't boot.
BingoBoingo: <hanbot> re my cuntoo-in': i ran bootstrap.sh, got trinque's smileyface, but then "cp: cannot stat '../config/4.9.94-apu2': No such file or directory". i'm having moar surgery tomorrow, but i'll dig into this again friday. << Let me know if you need brought back online then. I can't imagine hippos work weekends, if their build is still going on by then.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 18:15 diana_coman: note that you'll get simply gnat with sjlj, no option to switch between zcx and sjlj i.e. --rts won't work
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899468 << the thing didn't work out, but principally owing to ustardian incompetence (they failed to pay protection money, because they think they're mussolini or some duim shit). little to do with your ideal of humanity, merely a practical application of the superiority of patriarchy. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: purely cultural problem. how come "every mayo of fightin mass" ain't on the imaginary borders of the empire, fighting the republic ? cuz they fucking can't, lol. how would they, the republic integrates their ideological system.
asciilifeform: ( tho it doesn't impact asciilifeform's current item , or afaik anything else just nao )
diana_coman: note that you'll get simply gnat with sjlj, no option to switch between zcx and sjlj i.e. --rts won't work ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 02:20 mircea_popescu: it was utterly the case of eg ro revolution. none of the people there wanted "freedom". they were literally pissed off they can't drive over to austrian border and load up the car at the w/e discount shop.
mircea_popescu: well this yes, but nothing is different from this. the chronic masturbators making up white esltardland don't suddenly become serious about some selection of topics, or even one topic.
mircea_popescu: whatever, tv, space rockets. it wasn't amateur electronicists in garage, that's for sure.
asciilifeform: pretty modest ( tho asciilifeform was still surprised how large ! ) uptake for FG. asciilifeform doesn't even have a rigid handle on why, specifically.
danielpbarron: no, hasn't been a sale in a year about
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if asciilifeform weren't sitting under a pile of unfinisheds -- then conceivably yes