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mircea_popescu: the only problem with that statement is that "a community" consisting of some third worlders hired by a local company hired by a vc flea hired by a usg flea is really not all that much.
asciilifeform: if it's 'get out of usg', this is rather like learning that your house has roaches and answering by looking for some small corner which, as of yet, does not have any roaches therein
asciilifeform: usg is perfectly happy to magic into the right place
asciilifeform: aha and usg herbicide runs over the coke fields of colombia never happened ?
mircea_popescu: where there's no derps, the usg does not magic some into place.
asciilifeform: if you start conducting anti-usg commerce there, your immediate vicinity will eventually get slightly less empty.
decimation: asciilifeform: usg owns all the islands from hawaii to midway
decimation: and you are right, the enviro-nazis who heavily influence usg want to turn it into a forest precisely to suspend all law
asciilifeform: (there is a subculture of folks who imagine that going to see somehow rids you of usg)
decimation: obviously usg aint' selling
decimation: because the whole thing is predicated on 'usg prints money true/false'
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 20:44:33; asciilifeform: still think 'usg as high-tech north kr is impossible', ?
decimation: how could anyone inside usg accomplish anything at all without creating a meta-something
asciilifeform: tendrils of usg in the turd world
decimation: http://pocan.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/pocan-massie-introduce-legislation-to-repeal-patriot-act < snowden's ultimate gift to usg
mircea_popescu: us sec could register its wot key with mpex, us fed could announce plans for bitcoin-convertibility of usg,
decimation: usg could fire 90% of its staff, rationalize its tax system, and start colonizing the world
decimation: re: costs < yes, usg is cost constrained, but note that nearly all of it is 'self-imposed damage'
decimation: usg has a small number of non-inept employees
mircea_popescu: decimation one being inept is almost a requirement for usg payroll.
decimation: re: greewald being on usg payroll < is also hilarious
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2015 17:25:05; asciilifeform: sachs also lists names, times, places of folks 'suicided' by usg, with reasons.
asciilifeform: and wai wat, omidyar - or at least his money - could be magicked away in a single hour if usg willed it.
asciilifeform: the robot is a logical step to the escalation of usg police practice
asciilifeform: if it didn't in the same sense of 'didn't' as elsewhere in usg, i would know
asciilifeform: nobody is playing that role for usg
asciilifeform: trinque: the 'militia' thing is solid usg provocateurism from day one
asciilifeform: who take three steps and (fail to) blow (themselves) up with a (fake) rocket sold to them by usg.
mircea_popescu: major losses for teh usg.
mircea_popescu: the weird thing about the situaiton of usg particularly, and of usg-likes (ie, most cancer) is that "everything is only intended to be used in the situations it wasn't designed to be used".
mircea_popescu: back to the usg-tb thing : people like a congressman or an ex ciadirector are very poor examples, because a key part of the cure is maintaining very hard counter-terrorism measures on the ground. no colby, owens, petreus etc ever said "you will have to shoot me, and expect to fail unless you bring armored units, and to lose a score of operatives in any case."
mircea_popescu: to imagine the usg, or for that matter any bureaucracy like a PERSON rather than like a disease is imo to be very, very wrong
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usg appears to have a very strict 'do not engage mircea_popescu on open terrain' rule
mircea_popescu: that usg courts are a sad joke, again uncontroversial.
mircea_popescu: an usg that *cares*. wouldn't that be a sight.
asciilifeform: minus however many usg buys now that we said this.
asciilifeform: still think 'usg as high-tech north kr is impossible', ?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu guess what usg's response to 'solzhenitsyn's axe' is, aha.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the actual facts about usg are sufficiently monstrous that they will trigger -any- reasonable person's immune system the way they triggered yours, if encountered raw in one gigantic torrent
asciilifeform: mainly to create a usg-controlled 'muppet hero' who will lead actual leakers to their deaths
asciilifeform: sachs also lists names, times, places of folks 'suicided' by usg, with reasons.
mircea_popescu: you basing yourself on the theory usg->judge will != usg->da ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but the usg (through usg->da) has already evaluated that
asciilifeform: decimation: after 'wickard v. filburn', usg gained - perfectly legally - the power to regulate how many shits we may take per week
ascii_field: 2) usg redirects them to exact copies of our own boxes sitting in ft meade
mircea_popescu: because they only exist halfway, like competent usg and able nsa ?
ascii_field: at any rate, -we won't know- that it's pointing to usg boxes emulating our nodes
ascii_field: they -will- be ddosed and sinkholed to usg machines.
mircea_popescu: so : yeah, usg&friends thinks it's engaging me on its own terms.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: what about it << it being in a usg-blessed region
ascii_field: because usg inspectors
ascii_field: this is what usg-mandated code looks like.
ascii_field: 'my targeting computer was programmed not to fire at usg'
ascii_field: phoundation - usg
ascii_field: the only way to cut usg-controlled apparatus entirely out of the loop is to have the node get all volatiles (e.g., ip addrs) from files, on inserable media, -signed- by burned-in and prominently-advertised key.
ascii_field: usg has real time iron control over all of dns.
ascii_field: 100% usg
nubbins`: you can't have visible to users but invisible to usg
ascii_field: for usg
ascii_field: one of the few things usg is reliably good at is making a particular ip unusable
ascii_field: turning an ip address into a critical constant in a field-deployed machine paints a big fat target on that ip for usg
BingoBoingo: I support thestringpuller's idea that it could be dangerous because how much can it cost USG to rack 3 tons of banana pi's
mircea_popescu: but for the fate of a random usg muppet ? dude, burn him down, his name won't even be remembered.
assbot: Logged on 25-03-2015 00:37:43; assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 06:08:33; ben_vulpes: <decimation> I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket << why bother with expensive turbomachinery? just use solid propellants...
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2015 06:08:33; ben_vulpes: <decimation> I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket << why bother with expensive turbomachinery? just use solid propellants... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: then again, pirates invented the "honor among thieves" thing which is what we're fundamentally continuating here. "how could there be rule of law otuside of usg ?!?!" "same way there was rule of law in the fucking bahamas"
ascii_field: -avoid all usg crypto standards- - yes
ascii_field: mats: your phrase 'avoid all crypto standards' is very much -not- the inevitable implication of dismissing usg crapolade
asciilifeform: oh and mats, forgot to ask: why have you forgotten about the massive (iirc, 10-20 mil) usg bribe to rsa?
asciilifeform: if the paperwork is missing - it isn't like we have all the usg archives on display!
asciilifeform: which is to say, folks who are acting in the interests of usg but do not consciously know it
asciilifeform: all you have to go on, when answering the question 'usg stooge or not' is - 'by their fruits you will know them'
asciilifeform: thing is, there are not so many good opportunities for crafted vulns, and the usg folks know it. hence they try to cultivate an overall maggoty flavour in software culture at large
asciilifeform: from anywhere in the usg empire.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way the machines are typically used is that usg knows precisely where the truck will be
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Or the golden toilets at the local USG garisons erode
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how the world works. people who meet us armed forces socially and people who are willing to write USG SATAN in 5yo guts, provided the 5yo was spawned by a private first class have virtually no overlap.
mircea_popescu: "sorry to tell you sir, you have cancer" "you know who i am ? i am the usg czar for rounded corners" "oh, in that case...umm... it's a skin condition. put some aloe on it."
ascii_modem: except hollywood and 'intellectual property' racket in general is core usg
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1065420 << he's not a cunt, he's a typical usg bureaucrat.
mircea_popescu: i'm personally waiting for the credit suisse article about the loss of confidence in swiss banks as a result of them selling out their customers to usg & friends.
mircea_popescu: because whatever, i'm going to hang them anyway, and usg isn't going to hang them no matter what, so that leaves a space in the middle.
mircea_popescu: which pretty much brings us to 2014, when the thing became too expensive to be useful, so it had to run out of usg jurisdiction (went to uk)
ascii_field: jurov: it's one small step to usg prosecuting folks making hardware that doesn't obey magic bit
ben_vulpes: <decimation> I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket << why bother with expensive turbomachinery? just use solid propellants... ☟︎
asciilifeform: it will get $maxint in usg payola.
decimation: usg was not amused
asciilifeform: thing is, there are multiple overlapping fields of fire re: usg vs exchanges. e.g., banks monitor -all- incoming and outgoing flow
asciilifeform: to make a non-usg exchange in usa
decimation: moldbug thought the us would jail exchanges/possessors, but usg lost the initiative on that one
asciilifeform: as i understand, operating with the 'monetary system as storage battery' model (mr mold's ?) usg has two possible (non-exclusive) agendas re: btc: 1) steal charge from the battery 2) blow up the battery
decimation: I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket
asciilifeform: the actual purpose of every usg mil engagement since korea
decimation: asciilifeform: but then usg is stuck with backing dollars with bitcoin
mircea_popescu: but notice that the people who do not suffer from that famous " pathologically difficult attitude toward various important software development philosophy " will not have much problems using usg-nodes anyway
asciilifeform: it is worth asking what usg would be trying to accomplish with fedcoin
decimation: usg could just arrest/seize/forfeit nodes it doesn't like
mircea_popescu: sort-of like a usg-run laundromat.
mircea_popescu: in this view of Bitcoin, only Draper has any, or whoever bought it from USG. ☟︎
asciilifeform: usg will readily dispute this claiming they actually DO have title to bitcoin they confiscate << guaranteed.