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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But he didn't
mircea_popescu: but see, one needn't be stalin. officers in question had all they needed, did not apply.
mircea_popescu: it is very difficult to surround self with viziers who understand what you don't. those are called co-caesars in rome.
mircea_popescu: and he systematically didn't understand the ~only set of dorks who belonged in jail, as a sort of public service, for re-realization.
mircea_popescu: the problem is -- he tended to imprison the dorks he understood more than the dorks he didn't.
mircea_popescu: ceausescu who didn't touch pantsuitism was certainly a better deadman than the imaginary one who had.
mircea_popescu: and didn't, for 30-odd years.
mircea_popescu: (remarkably pantsuit, the fat orc, btw. synchronicity to a t, including "russian secret services!!!" wank while it was still fashionable in washington, last narrative gasp before teh dnc died.
mircea_popescu: didn't love the hippos for the special and unique snowflake of a woman they really were ~deep~ inside.
spyked: returning briefly to http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-11#1901372 : back in the early 2000s, most file transfers in ro were done via local 'dc++' hubs, the largest hosted in uni politehnica of bucharest campus. wasn't all that horrible, with the exception that orcs had no notion of wot, so they were all suprised when police started raiding the dorms (accompanied by "anti-piracy campaign" orchestra, of course) ☝︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-12#1901621 <-- iirc they already have (too many?) servers residing in ro, might be why they don't accept any new ones ☝︎
trinque: never had a large IRC server, but can't imagine a lot of state in RAM per user.
mircea_popescu: and incidentally! shouldn't you be ffaing or something ?
mircea_popescu: i don't read those things.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it, you object to antique motd ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: EFnet doesn't have passwords for IRC users. Just their forum tards. EFnet doesn't provide auth at all.
mircea_popescu: anyways. im pretty sure this wasn't answering ~six hours ago.
trinque: ah, I hadn't even realized he couldn't connect *at all*
hanbot: trinque: okay, but by the same logic people shouldn't implement loggers or whatever else. if it's not useful for you, it's still useful for them.
trinque: eh this isn't going to teach anyone anything they wouldn't have learned running any other server farm. I and I'm sure several people already do, or have.
hanbot: asciilifeform: i'd trust a gossipd operator that'd also operated the ircd bridge above one who hadn't, other things being comparable.
asciilifeform: it isn't even that i dun think it's worth doing ( fleanode only ever gets ~moar~ rotten, and never less ) . but imho the cost is prolly not recoverable ( in the engineering sense ) .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'll admit that it isn't clear to me how effort put into baking glue for oddball nonstandard ircisms helps in re gossipd . irc as i see it is an entirely dead-end tech ( rides on tcp, and 0 notion of crypto , and cannot be retrofitted really )
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-12#1901514 -> I'm for moving; the only reason for staying was being busy with tending to other fires that burnt worse but freenode seems to be burning worse and worse lately anyway; a multi-network bridge sounds best in my opinion but I don't really know how much work needs to be put in to get that. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: "El impacto fue registrado por las cámaras de seguridad" << It is a great shame that video isn't out yet
asciilifeform: PeterL: you won't see a parallelism bug , by definition, with ~1~ thread ; but to say just about anyffin else about'em, is difficult.
trinque: didn't say forgive. more a comment on whether the mind dwells on a missed opportunity to strike yesterday than on striking today.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 00:46 asciilifeform: ru pathologists refer to subj as 'wax fetus', can't recall what it is in eng
bvt: iirc the c-t version of algorithm comes later - around section 5. there is a formula for calculating upper bound of iterations, but I did not check his math.
bvt: asciilifeform: https://gcd.cr.yp.to/papers.html -- rather new constant time gcd from djb. i did not look at it closely so can't say if it's anything good or belong to the kunstkammer
trinque: you didn't read the script either and would otherwise know that it mounted that for you.
mod6: Oh, sorry, I guess I wasn't excatly sure what you were asking me to look for, and where. I never had /dev/sdb mounted when I did the bootstrap.
trinque: I don't know why you find this surprising
mod6: I've looked at the genesis.vpatch that was genereated ( http://www.mod6.net/cuntoo-blog-2/nomods.genesis.vpatch ), and at first glance I don't see these files in their paths. (even if I remove the preceeding 'a/').
trinque: didn't you just say you were going to reboot?
diana_coman: ada doesn't have c-strings anyway
mircea_popescu: i really do not wish to see c strings, and i don't perceive char buffer to be different. "bitstream" does not exist. so my thinking is, to henceforth mandate datapassing as such a field.
mircea_popescu: to be clear : i expect that in the regular course of republican work, GB-sized vdiffs will occur -- strictly because we're contemplating confiscating all sort and manner of heathen artefact, and by now bloat is just a synonym for heathen. the "increase stack" fix works ok as a stop-gap, but we can't really 8x everything just for boredom.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, from keccak's pov there is no meaning to the input so I don't quite see what you mean there
diana_coman: i.e. there isn't yet a bit-level keccak implemented, no
mircea_popescu: phf pretty sure that's the wrong version of it ? iirc there was also a keccak that didn't explode ? diana_coman ?
diana_coman: yes, that one is there; but I don't see the path that vdiff seems to see
mod6: <+asciilifeform> we also host owner-operated iron (e.g. dulap is still snsa ; and trinque has some, and mod6 ) << The Foundation's 2nd box ("lovelace") is with ben_vulpes, currently. He's going to find a home for it in his new area, last we had talked about it. I don't have any machines on-hand that are waiting to go to .uy. However, I might be interested in buying a UY1 style machine from alf...
diana_coman: trinque, this is probably having to do with the drive being external, connected via USB and how it's mounted, I don't see any other explanation
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-10#1901200 << that is not at all the problem. i can read the file just fine, but as i do i feed chunks of it to keccak. keccak doesn't take char buffers, it wants "bitstream" i.e. arrays of bits, which means whatever char ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't really, and besides my/our policy has mostly been to have pizarro own iron, hence the snsa sale etc.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Aite. We don't do these very often yet, so getting things in hand trumps getting plane ticket arranged.
diana_coman: I don't recall it being discussed in detail (i.e. with numbers for stack size and input size) anywhere and I think it should be, if it stays as it is
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, yes, I don't suspect the code is broken as such but it is a limitation of the approach and I did not really expect bumping into it at 7MB
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the 'errything on stack' approach has its limits; it is why i wrote the mmap thing (currently stuck in limbo , but i'ma have to revive it and fix, cuz ffa 17 also is hitting against this wall, you can't expect to put 100MB on stack, you gotta mmap it
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-10#1901153 << bake 'pile of reconnectable flipflop' and then you aint gotta ever bake anyffin else again. iirc i detailed this in ancient thread, mircea_popescu barfed ( iirc answered 'why waste so many transistor on interconnects' ) , but can't currently dig up where we had this ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-10 16:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform thinking about whart you said, i can't repress the suspicion that maybe the memory model is acrtually profoundly fucked,as a central driver of the whole cs insanity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform thinking about whart you said, i can't repress the suspicion that maybe the memory model is acrtually profoundly fucked,as a central driver of the whole cs insanity. ☟︎
diana_coman: trinque, which are exactly the paths that don't match? since I don't have the original genesis.vpatch I can't really know what to check to look if indeed those paths actually exists or not or wtf
a111: Logged on 2019-03-10 02:24 mircea_popescu: any fucking monkey picked out in the street could have made ~just as good~ a "corporate executive" as the fucktards apple hired -- and somehow nobody is telling them this. and of course the idiots don't have the werewithal to look in the mirror, "if plumbers were as good at plumbing as we are at executiving, we'd be quite literally swimming in the shit we're metaphorically drowning in!"
a111: Logged on 2019-03-10 03:04 mircea_popescu: i ~can't imagine~ what the fuck must have been going through the skull of whoever came up with "working a piece or moving the worked piece, same thing". what the fuck ever is it same thing!
mircea_popescu: i ~can't imagine~ what the fuck must have been going through the skull of whoever came up with "working a piece or moving the worked piece, same thing". what the fuck ever is it same thing! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the 512 "central" cores are state machines that can do add or mul, and always proceed ~on their entire register set~. so if you don't want to multiply 131072-bit numbers, just put in zeros ; and if you put larger numbers in there you'll just get the LAST 262144 bits of the result, is all.
mircea_popescu: dude check me out, by now i'm writing 500 word chatlines. this isn't going well.
mircea_popescu: this is the fucking problem of socialism, when that wanna-be alt-hilary stupid cow asks "if the government can print money to rescue wall street, why won't it print money to let the chitlins enjoy the college lifestyle free of charge (and permanently!)" she has a fucking point -- and the entirely similar stup ☝︎
mircea_popescu: any fucking monkey picked out in the street could have made ~just as good~ a "corporate executive" as the fucktards apple hired -- and somehow nobody is telling them this. and of course the idiots don't have the werewithal to look in the mirror, "if plumbers were as good at plumbing as we are at executiving, we'd be quite literally swimming in the shit we're metaphorically drowning in!" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: jobs' been dead what, a decade ? not even a decade. meanwhile, fifty FUCKING MORONS sat around in rooms pompously pretending as to how "of course i'm teh vp, didn';t you see the sign on the door ?"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-09#1901062 << very much this. "oh, couldn't POSSIBLY spare another bus width for a FULL mult result. NEVERTHELESS... can fucking spare eight trillion bus widths to specify instruction length. it's 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000101 and not a mere fucking 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i.e. they can't stuff any moar transistors in there, and end up offering the equiv. of ye olde 'winmodem'
mircea_popescu: in more practical sense : ctrl-C is broken-by-design, in that it is ambiguously used to either mean "kill this task" or "kill all tasks". note how ctrl-c doesn't kill THE TERMINAL. it needs ctrl-d for that.
hanbot: so there i am merrily entering choices into the kernel config's endless querying on the tail of my cuntoo installation attempt, and i'm noting down all the modules it asks about that don't appear in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-08#1900940 for posterity, during which i ctrl + c on the wrong of the two keyboards i'm handling while trying to copy a module name and bam, make dies, which means kernel configuring dies, which means bootstrap.sh dies, ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: She's still there. Can't help people with things they refuse help for.
asciilifeform: ( if you were to take trinque's example config, your kernel will boot but will panic when looks for root partition, as it won't find that iron's raid card )
asciilifeform: and, annoyingly, won't say which.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i expect it'll go approx like the at&t phone tap lawsuit -- usg invokes 'sovereign immunity' and that's it
PeterL: WU only cost 8 bucks to send to bingoboingostan. Lady at the counter asked "you know this person?" "yes." "This isn't a telemarketer, is it?" "um, no" - such great fraud prevention
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feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/things-you-didnt-know-about-awstats/ << Trilema -- Things you didn't know about Awstats ☟︎
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trinque: hanbot: the unmounting thing isn't really specific to my script. absent umount -R you're off the rails provided
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll do it if it's a normal pp , but if it's like the last one it prolly won't work from my machine
ben_vulpes: can't buy sheetrock nor coin without waylaying stagecoaches, asciilifeform.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 17:10 Mocky: in truth i do feel like idjit for being old man without the brains to have saved anything. i don't even have a workshop full of shit like asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: for all that the place is nominally filled with capitalists, nobody here drives like time is a rapidly exhausting resource. i seem to have landed in a town largely flavored like portland. nobody knows how to make coffee, and the region doesn't produce much by way of wine. but! where portland was the largest metropolis for a good hundred and fifty miles in any direction (and cavorted with airs to match), this
trinque: I can't say for sure until I instrument the thing with slime and wait for it to happen
mircea_popescu: anyway, they'd prolly be closer to being done, so you wouldn't find yourself in the position of "no logger for pizarro", except they got sent to do auction bot fixes and gutenberg mirror respectively, if you recall.
mircea_popescu: not sure why phf hadn't, but possibly because it's a finnicky setup on a lispmachine he can't reproduce, ie, the "10 minutes" in that case'd have included a decade's worth of encuntoo-ating whatever cl pile he uses.
asciilifeform: i still wonder why phf and ben_vulpes didn't take a shot at genesising theirs ( asciilifeform , for instance, posted the phuctor frontend, fwliw )
diana_coman: hopefully I won't mess it up again the same way at least
diana_coman: I think I'll take a break and leave it until I have the smg test box back so at least I don't mess about with all sorts of versions of everything or I'll go nuts
asciilifeform: entirely possib; can't currently spare any cycles to find out
asciilifeform: pretty strange effect, i haven't previously observed anyffin of the kind from removing a symlink
diana_coman: uhm, asciilifeform BingoBoingo I can't speak in pizarro?
BingoBoingo: Aite, just wanted to make sure you weren't driving dull side into ground, climbing, and using sharp side as seat. Once again a case of reserve sharp side for enemy.
asciilifeform can't be arsed to sacrifice a box to try an' run it, presently
hanbot: trinque, /sys fails with "/usr/gnat/vtoolsp1/vtools/cuntoo/build/sys: target is busy." lsof doesn't match anything tho.
hanbot: mircea_popescu i haven't, based on noting various unknown webderps reporting it hung/killed their session
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't dig into it, but noticed the little tab looking at them. now that i think about it, i seem to recall this was actually discussed in log.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-05 20:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, were you saying you can't find write-only sdcards ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, were you saying you can't find write-only sdcards ? ☟︎
hanbot: continuing my mounting woes, i can't unmount sdb3 partition on target drive from initial cuntoo bootstrap.sh (target is busy); offending process from 'lsof | grep sdb3' looks like /proc/4693/exe ("txt, unknown"), no response from kill -9, no idea how it zombied out or why, what am i gonna do?
mircea_popescu: possible you ran it previously (when it worked) on an unmount that supports -R ? whereas the one using now doesn't ?
mircea_popescu: if the tree is (evaluate object) (decide if buying object) (deal with the fallout of buying object) you can't possibly spend 300ms alftime on 1, 190s alftime on 2 and 168`000`000 s altfime on 3. it's just insane.
mircea_popescu: you can't go through life like this, astride a horse that takes you wherever it pleases, that you barely even know or ever talk to. wtf, it's your fucking head, it's a head not a horse!