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shinohai: Some people lack patience for the real reference wallet I suppose.
walter_: I remember I saw him on one of couple crypto channels I used
a111: I haven't seen AlexNT01
mircea_popescu: a whole cacophopnic symphony of little john smiths. what am i to do with this large collection of hardy country folk running around with their ummims and thurims ? EVEN IF THEY DO FLY TO SPACE!
mircea_popescu: (the measure for "industrial civ" here used is, the type of answer to the problem of "i need three times the force". if it's "hire three times the coolies/horses/etc then pre-ind civ ; if it's "build bigger machine" it's industrial civ ; if the question not even conceptualized as such then it's not a civ, like say africa/polynesia/other subhumans)
mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing the euroidiots aren't ; but this simple fact dun make non-euros anything else.
mircea_popescu: much like the russkis, what these other marginal orcs have to show for "their great empire" is a barely functional bezzle scheme. i don't even mean the financial part, intellectually speaking the whole us can be comfortably sat down in two lines' worth of "don't say nigger and state-god will provide", which is what, somehow different from "quote marx and wait for moscow" ?
mircea_popescu: broken lightbulb temporarily sits on shelf next to working lightbulb, "oh, did you miss the time i burned so very bright it was like 1`000 lightbulbs ?!?!?" suppose i did miss it. what came of it ?
mircea_popescu: but no, i don't think the item as described is useless. if you need a new key in less than a week / if your message lag is mostly this you've other problems to attend to.
asciilifeform: incidentally, if you're willing to leak the height of the last set bit in the exponent, you cut the cost even of naive method above, linearly ( e.g. the typical gpg exponent is 17 bits ) -- but i'd very much rather not
mircea_popescu: tbh i liked my "all items are 4096 bit" world way better and wtf is this "multiplication doubles width" bs anyway!
asciilifeform: hey i'd be the first to applaud if mircea_popescu came up with magical algo that reduces cpu work to ~0 !
asciilifeform: i think we had this in detail
mircea_popescu: fine. and the reason your mod does not reduce to "At most one substraction op" is "because i believe the product of two prime numbers 2kb each can in fact be less than 2^4095". that it ?
asciilifeform: ( i don't own a box with 4096**4096 bits of memory, and neither does beelzebub )
mircea_popescu: i dunno what you think the behaviour preserves, but i can assure you it doesn't.
asciilifeform: same WITH divisions, i.e. modular, takes 51.3.
asciilifeform: exponentiation WITHOUT DIVISIONS (i.e. nonomodular, or modulo the set ffawidth, in this case 4096) takes 0.26
asciilifeform: ( a*b mod m refers to mod-exp, i thought this was clear )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-17#1715311 << i'm missing something here. did you compare a MULTIPLICATION (as your text actually said, a * b) with an exponentiation ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-17 11:34 mircea_popescu: the whole fucking POINT of french revolution was "we can make things -- soldiers, arms for those soldiers, culture for their fathers and wives, CHEAPER and MORE ABUNDANT if we chinese it." "but will it be as good ?" "i can't hear you over the kanzure of my superficiality"
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 23:51 BingoBoingo: So this "Sally Hemmings And The Widower" Fanfic/novel, I'm not finding anyway to work crabapple metaphor into unifying narrative
asciilifeform: incidentally do i have to explain why a modexp op cannot be 'exp, and then take result and mod' ? or is it screamingly obvious .
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-17#1715289 << mod ~exp~ , with naive egyptian div, does. and i described, in detail, why. plox reread. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "it's ok, science will progress so fast nobody will ever wear shoes again!!!". yeah, i'm sure. and then it'll "progress" even faster than that huh.
mircea_popescu: obviously, it won't be as good, in the obvious sense that you don't need frenchmen to do it, can have it done in yugoslavia cheaper. and by yugoslavia i mean poland which is to say china.
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking POINT of french revolution was "we can make things -- soldiers, arms for those soldiers, culture for their fathers and wives, CHEAPER and MORE ABUNDANT if we chinese it." "but will it be as good ?" "i can't hear you over the kanzure of my superficiality" ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 23:10 mircea_popescu: 1. if you actually want metal kbd, your choice of steel is probably ill advised. i'd try silver instead. heuristicallyt there's a reason gunsmiths and silversmiths were ~the same people i nthe early modern period ; moreover silver has better properties in the range sough.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-16 15:31 asciilifeform: in other olds ( i dun think i posted this measurement ) the NAIVE modular exponentiator takes 51.3 seconds per 4096b a*b mod m , on the 'standard' test box
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 23:51 BingoBoingo: So this "Sally Hemmings And The Widower" Fanfic/novel, I'm not finding anyway to work crabapple metaphor into unifying narrative
BingoBoingo: mats: I may be able to put ine together this weekend. Prolly quickest to run pdf through text converter yourself.
asciilifeform: in other olds ( i dun think i posted this measurement ) the NAIVE modular exponentiator takes 51.3 seconds per 4096b a*b mod m , on the 'standard' test box ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2014-10-18 13:28 PeterL: so I converted that WASP pdf into a txt file http://btcscoop.com/WASP.txt
mircea_popescu: i've no good explanation for this atm.
mircea_popescu: peterl that's EXACTLY what i mean though. all that shit should logically read "whose size is bit-1 rsa modulus". but they don't.
BingoBoingo: OMG Police adopting filthy hippy tactics nao: "They marched to the on-ramp of I-64 at Clark Street, but officers on bicycles formed a human chain to prevent them from shutting down highway traffic. The protesters left that area without any physical confrontations."
PeterL: by the way, I stuffed the keccak ada stuff (and, speaking of OAEP, here is one of those too) into https://github.com/PeterMLambert/keccak since I don't have my own server up yet ☟︎
mircea_popescu: PeterL i also sent an email earlier this week. the world's ending.
mod6: i've got this 11yo kid begging me to get him into it.
shinohai: Yeah the cli-interface took a little adjustment but I kinda liked it once I figured it out
mod6: lol, i've got a stone pickaxe you made me once, that's now 1Mq
mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh i like the new cli-style merchant interface a lot better in priciple.
mod6: <+shinohai> I haven't seen danielpbarron since the reset, hope he's ok. I still have his items. << he's in-game now it seems
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> you should have pretty high q stuff now, since the float. << ah cool! i'll check it out.
shinohai: I haven't seen danielpbarron since the reset, hope he's ok. I still have his items.
mod6: i made mention in #eulora, but was brief.
mod6: i was able to log in, np, and my ecu had 10x'd
mod6: fwiw, i logged in day or so ago to check and ensure at least on the surface, all was still well.
shinohai: Longest click I have ever done was for diana_coman .... only took a few hours though.
kanzure: i thought "in 2 weeks" is the handwave answer?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can i lean on you the other way nao plox ?
kanzure: why would i have you vet my epipenises?
asciilifeform: notmuch. i'ma bbl, gotta paint some dna.
asciilifeform: i dun think he has to pinch pennies for them microscopes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've heard the hungry but sane before, they don't sound like that at all.
asciilifeform: but for the well-fed i cannot see what possible excuse.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 21:33 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did a tour of duty in the most godforsaken imaginable salt mine full of ex-nsa folk.
asciilifeform: i can sorta understand starvation, in fact http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-19#1525791 etc ☝︎
asciilifeform: i have nfi with what one oughta have been whaked in the head, and with howmuch force, to do idjit humantricks for nsa for paltry sixfigses when no longer having to work to eat
asciilifeform: but i cannot cure kanzure . if wealth ( and by all indications, d00d is 'dependently' wealthy at the least ) did not cure -- who can cure.
mircea_popescu: i'm a dumb cunt just like them and imagine the value of my precious kitty is related to how many textile layers i keep it under.
mircea_popescu: that's you know, how it's going to be communicated to me that we're in an ~~~exclusive~~~ millieu of great value and vehement importance! by complicated locking mechanisms. cuz i
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as an ex-sufferer of 'hm, they're giving out money for dancytrick, how do i print 100MB using liquid shit on wattman paper' -- i grasp the fundamentals
mircea_popescu: i told the girly where to shove it, and she had to "ask" and whatnot. just as he was coming back witrh the "oh, no id needed anymore" updated policy i was getting the doorman to open the fucking door before i crack it open with his face.
asciilifeform: oh did i mention the doorman has form for you to fill in triplicate ?
asciilifeform: i got out of that racket an' have 0 regrets
kanzure: so i should make my own isis
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect that distinction is not meaningful. pregnant woman is neither whore nor victim. she's pregnant.
asciilifeform: i suppose my interest is very narrowly entomological -- i'd like to know if d00d is boneh or a dupe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is strictly impossible to have. he is dedicated to being stupid, and i suspect by now too old for any change to be even arguably +ev.
asciilifeform: hm i must've missed this thread
mircea_popescu: i would say the matter's come to its natural conclusion : dude's came up with any of the usual explanation of why i'm rich and he's poor ; and will continue with his idiotic tack indefinitely.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do regularly try to find some shared prior.
kanzure: i thought this was about authorization
kanzure: anyway thanks for the encouragement about public releasing (d|i)arpa notes
asciilifeform: so kanzure wouldja humour me, and say to me why i cannot compress a 1000TB backup into a 1024byte sig
asciilifeform: now i have nfi actually re kanzure . but boneh knows very well what he's doing.
asciilifeform: i presume that d00d knows because he is not unintelligent.
kanzure: i wasn't aware that i had to report my whereabouts to you guys but whatever
kanzure: just last week i was in SF because http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/bitcoin-core-dev-tech/2017-09-06-signature-aggregation/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is explicitly mentioned in kanzure's link, which is why i use as example
mircea_popescu: i don't expect he's familiar.
BingoBoingo: So this "Sally Hemmings And The Widower" Fanfic/novel, I'm not finding anyway to work crabapple metaphor into unifying narrative ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't think he reads anything that's not patently idiotic.
asciilifeform: kanzure: i spilled the beans from a similar darpa conference that i attended, in the heart of the beast itself, few yrs back ( it's in the l0gz, spoiler : multilinear map homomorphic crypto is bunkum ) and still waiting for gasenwagen ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i can promise you absolutely nobody will ever read it. in this sense "whether it's public" is not unlike rosie mcdowell wondering if her cunt's got privacy.
kanzure: i typed 50 pages of notes (about 30k words) but i'm not sure it should be considered public
kanzure: and i think it's like 1 picogram/bit for flash memory..
asciilifeform: wait i had one?!
kanzure: i was in dc yesterday attending a dna synthesis meeting organied by iarpa. they want 10^14 data write with dna.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-15#1714617 << goal is to establish co in moscows, and put a colo on its name? i can make inquiries about at least some of the steps, but not sure i'll be able to perform all the necessary actions in the time left. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: because that's how you resolve the "i can't tell if this young'un is galois or insane" in practice of elder, slower, heavier gents : "follow ONE fucking spur to allow me to organize your nonsense, god damn it!"
mircea_popescu: which is what i mean by "entropy work". $value-of-entropy work.
mircea_popescu: i suppose you could stretch "hypocrisy" to try and fit it, if you must.
NotEvenWrong: I'm actually about to help a friend dump his
BingoBoingo: Oh, I dunno
mircea_popescu: oh i thought he was talking to passenger
mircea_popescu: hey, aborting a whole ream of escaped avortons in one go. i can see the arousal potential.
BingoBoingo: Bush I was solidly murple
BingoBoingo: Well Hussein Bahamas is just as much CIA creature as Bush I, in that way more Bush than W. was