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mircea_popescu: (hey, if the usg is pretending like increases in quality wash inflation away, same argument can be used the other way too)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: the mega-l0l of 'cookbook' is that it was usg-authored originally. << Seems to have been independently written and later blessed because of its error, contrast to "Poor Mans James Bond" written by fellow who wanted to be their friend, but his work... not blessed
asciilifeform: the mega-l0l of 'cookbook' is that it was usg-authored originally.
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 02:21:25; asciilifeform: the other thing is the political nuance here. when you do business with riaa etc. you are banking that 2025 will contain a world where riaa and the usg it is an affiliate of - are still in business
mircea_popescu: for the other it's not ok to admit urbit exists strictly because a) yarvin's chumpatron attempt failed just at the time b) usg was looking for a particular tool
asciilifeform: they'll eat their pants before admitting it's 'usg bitcoin'
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1084446 << lol wait, they came full circle to the actual goal, usg's own bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's targeted at folks who think the usg is a good idea and windows an operating system.
asciilifeform: 2) usg generates a private key to 'go with' the public
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: since it isn't an actual cryptosystem, you will never -see- it. instead, the bank account of that clown and his university 'sees' the royalties from idiot usg affiliates proclaiming to 'use' it.
asciilifeform: the other thing is the political nuance here. when you do business with riaa etc. you are banking that 2025 will contain a world where riaa and the usg it is an affiliate of - are still in business ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you KNOW this shit even got to be used in the first place because usg said so.
asciilifeform: to briefly return to thread, it is not a -total- waste of time to learn what usg imagines 'security' - for its private uses - means.
asciilifeform: for those who don't follow the antics of lunatics: usg is -obsessed- with domain segregation
asciilifeform: mats: selinux and similar are exemplary of usg approach to 'seek00r1ty' - add layers of 'granular' bureaucracy to the os
asciilifeform: perfect allegory for usg.
asciilifeform: anyway patents are a passenger on the burning atomic dirigible of usg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except that usg owns the patents (war trophies!)
asciilifeform: i just can't get over the lulziness of usg proclaiming that stealing/extorting from an outlaw constitutes 'theft of government property'
asciilifeform: this is how usg killed -actual- academic crypto
asciilifeform: playing with the 'big iron' at usg expense.
asciilifeform: to the extent they did not use it (and swiss 'cryptoag' etc marketed rotors until late '80s!! and possibly now) - usg and its merry men had their fun with the payload.
mircea_popescu: the sheer fact of the b-a of the time made it. the usg follows in all dances. never yet lead, never will lead.
decimation: but the sheer fact of usg's gold's possession 'made' it the reserve currency
decimation: mircea_popescu: perhaps, but to fully realize it usg would have to publicly destroy the dollar bezzle
mircea_popescu: decimation this is not going away. the usg's hunger for btc far exceeds its hunger for anything else COMBINED.
decimation: parts of usg would gravely protest other parts of usg minting non-usd
BingoBoingo knows of no circumstantial evidence that suggest USG proxy more than exists for BuzzDave.
asciilifeform: anyone who doesn't send them off to pound sand up arse - has bowed to usg
BingoBoingo actually affected by MP's deed of the day. lacks assets for USG to steal
mircea_popescu: usg doing a splendid job of getting the muppets do the "case da joint" work for free.
decimation: well, china has a relatively small core of 'managers', usg is really a headless beast
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> salesforce either << usg is not the post office. usg is precisely the folks who perpetrate things such as 'salesforce.'
BingoBoingo: <decimation> asciilifeform: usg buys everything on the 'friends&family' plan << And no one knows how tenous their connection is as Force, Carl Mark IV can likely attest
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> is mickey-d usg ? << When I worked there after Library school frozen meat cam in boxes labeled Cargill, member of Carlisle group, indicted somewhat in Farenheit-911
asciilifeform: no one who walks in, likely is usg. certainly not official procurer
asciilifeform: is mickey-d usg ?
decimation: asciilifeform: usg buys everything on the 'friends&family' plan
asciilifeform: (there is no private industry, in the traditional sense, in usg-dom. nothing larger than a hotdog stand, certainly.)
asciilifeform: being a dept of usg
decimation: aye, because usg 'requires' it
asciilifeform: the tests are a chump tax charged on folks peddling turdware to usg and friends
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not my fault boys are worthless irl, when irl is designed by usg.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-04-2015#1082925 << that's prolly going too far. the usg can prolly "exert pressure" on the price of soy, nevertheless you can still go to argentina's remote east and grow some soy for yourself.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> jurov: though BingoBoingo did 'go ferguson go' a bit << Then the peace vampires came out, like USG Informant Al Sharpton.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: the bitcoin doesn't buy additional hate. usg does that.
ascii_field: ru is not 'the future', just the best-looking horse in the usg glue factory, in this regard.
ascii_field: jurov: i argue that anything that meaningfully opposes usg is to be applauded
funkenstein_: ascii_field, if a bunch of assholes wearing usg hats take me down, i will know it was a bunch of assholes wearing usg hats took me down, not a giant
ascii_field: jurov: you have ru and usg respectively.
ascii_field: trinque: escape from what? usg's largesse? aha right.
ascii_field: saves usg cost, yes. it is encouraged.
ascii_field: understand, subjects of usg always have the choice of moving into a private, independent ambulatory jail
nubbins`: <+ascii_field> nubbins`: when the canadian affiliate of usg decides that nubbins` is a t3rr0r1st!!!1111!!1 and supplying mains current to his home is an atrocity which must end, 'underground economy' will do so in its place ? <<< understand that "underground economy" means you have neither a mortgage nor a lease in your own name
ascii_field: the list of the folks dekulakized, libelled, injured, killed by usg thugs - is bookcase-length.
funkenstein_: that bit about the father getting jumped by 45 guys with usg hats totally ruined my april 1 thanks a lot guys
funkenstein_: cause sometimes it sounds like you guys believe there is a real usg
ascii_field: for those who still don't get it - it costs more to -actually- remove someone from usg planet, than it does to lift them into orbit.
ascii_field: trinque: the implications are unsurprising. merely a friendly reminder from usg that anyone in range is fair game to it to rape with a telephone pole, and that - unless you're mircea_popescu, putin, or one of a hundred other folks who can say 'no' and make it stick, all you can do is to wait your turn.
ascii_field: nubbins`: when the canadian affiliate of usg decides that nubbins` is a t3rr0r1st!!!1111!!1 and supplying mains current to his home is an atrocity which must end, 'underground economy' will do so in its place ?
ascii_field: re: earlier thread: i will point out that folks who got on the plane and left usa borders but still earn a living from something on which usg might exert pressure, directly or indirectly, are still inmates of usaschwitz.
mircea_popescu: anyway, alligns incentrives correctly. "have you or anyone you know or care about been stolen from by the usg ? come join the people working to take away its shit"
mircea_popescu: trinque bitcoin is factually a threat to the usg "national security". it exists to end them.
ascii_field: like every criminal, the officials of usg do precisely as much as they can comfortably get away with.
ascii_field: and the plague is ancient. it is how usg ended up with its attempts to standardize cpu
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-04-2015#1082145 << "usg employee agrees to testify in court that the usg owns an amount of bitcoin that the usg wishes to be known it owns."
mircea_popescu: hopefully he gets his guts together and flies another plane into another usg office.
decimation: right, and the reason for 'disinterest' is because they expect usg to make them whole
decimation: which I take to mean "submits to usg T/F"
decimation: I'm amused that usg distinguishes between 'proprietary' and 'private'
decimation: usg knows precisely which necks to squeeze
decimation: usg was hustled by the vietnamese
mircea_popescu: nobody in the usg can do anything anymore. it's not just that i have their home address and i know who their wife is fucking better than them.
mircea_popescu: everyone could have problems. usg's actually got problems.
decimation: re: Freiherr Hammerstein-Equord's quote < Yes, USG specializes in promoting the stupid and industrious
ascii_field: one of the few things usg is demonstrably good at is sniffing out unexpectedly fattened cattle to butcher.
ascii_field: http://www.wired.com/2015/03/us-used-zero-day-exploits-policies << usg shills struggling to drown discussion with idiot garbage like this
ben_vulpes: what is it with you and self flagellation with the usg scourge
ascii_field: some years ago, when i still worked at [small usg research outpost] we had a 'gatehouse incident.' much commotion and yellow tape, etc. turned out, guard blew own brains out messily
ascii_field: trinque: good time to rehash my observation that the only 'decisive' people, as in out-and-out arms against usg - are the schizos, imbeciles, and provocateurs
ascii_field: 'Federal Agents Who Persecuted Ulbricht Arrested' << for what it's worth, i predicted that bitcoin will help usg fission into men and groups of men with actual, if unofficial - agency (in the philosophical sense)
decimation: http://nacin.com/2015/03/29/us-digital-service/ < lol now you can volunteer to help usg
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << tellingly, this is not the front page of the nyt, wapo adn every single other usg propaganda leaflet. << It made the front page of qntra
mircea_popescu: http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11424037 << tellingly, this is not the front page of the nyt, wapo adn every single other usg propaganda leaflet.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-03-2015#1078823 << there's no math behind either ssl or pki, or the usg for that matter. they are political arrangements, "sets of procedures and people" and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like seeing footballers trying to reason about medicine. that's what this entire "buncha derpy kids + some usg moles debating bitcoin" looks to me : like a bunch of nfl picks got parachuted in senegal, and are now trying to get themselves cured of tb
mircea_popescu: it's being a bitch for dubious usg contractors.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, the parallels between usg-poettering "working on" linux and usgavin "working on" bitcoin are utterly striking.
asciilifeform: send>40 faux usg academics up the river for 20+ eyars << weren't they chinese? or is this a different set of hucksters this time
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-03-2015#1076586 << also a criminal entreprise, but something tells me tough on his bosses enemies bharara isn't about to bust out the rico and send>40 faux usg academics up the river for 20+ eyars a head.
asciilifeform once had a full-blown build of xorg and other userland under cygwin, when worked in usg and forced to use winblows box
mircea_popescu: get your security to where usg fails, you'll do fine.
mircea_popescu: "an implementation failure" ? the time we took out usg's most valuable asset and publicly shot it in the head was "an implementation failure" "?
mircea_popescu: now, this entire "yeah the usg is your main enemy but whatever, you don't really want to protect your fucking tweets from them anyway" worked to propose turdstack = pancake.
mircea_popescu: in most practical scenarios, the only enemy any user will ever encounter is the usg.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the thread where i posited that being a kiddie diddler is a prime grade qualification for becoming a usg stooge (on account of having a ready jail string to be pulled by) ?
decimation: apparently usg courts have ruled that 'exit' searches are legal
thestringpuller: Sucking the USG dick.
mircea_popescu: how does this thing advertise itself in wikipedia ? (and yes, that's what wikipedia is, usg-pravda)
mircea_popescu: why do you think usg dollar is stable, zimbabweg dollar is not ?