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elaineo: @mircea_popescu having never worked in finance, i suppose i'll take your word for it, for now ☟︎

mircea_popescu: no, i did not. but the reason is unrelated : engineering deals with discrete, concrete items, before your eyes. finance deals with complex systems of such items.

mircea_popescu: elaineo well, a master, i expect. but not self perceived, perception dun enter into it. substantial master.

mircea_popescu: lligned with the above -- woman, you have to be able to think clearly, and correctly, and when i say "take no crap from anyone, be it wikipedia or your mom", i actually mean ~something~. it's not a ra ra ra, it's an actually specified artefact, it belongs in engineering, with process assurance and quality control and all that jazz, not as part of a pep rally.

mircea_popescu: "If you’re a Venture Capitalist, the last thing you want is for your child to go into wage slavery." << more in the same vein. i do take the tack you recommend ("you have no choice in the matter ; the bullwhip is right over there if this doesn't translate otherwise") with my own slavegirls, in a limited sense, thereby forcing them to proficiency in ~certain aspects~ of software engineering. those aspects are exactly those a

mircea_popescu: i dunno how common this case is in general ; but i guarantee it is the only case where it actually matters, which is to say at the top. that's why torvalds got off ass, that's why rich got off ass, pick any one of the actually competent.

elaineo: that's probably a better way of saying what i meant to say, then

mircea_popescu: this is a matter of incontrovertible fact, signed by the hand of the author himself : if i didn't HAVE TO write http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/in-re-bitcoin-devs-are-idiots.htm and such, nobody "involved in bitcoin" would even know my name.

mircea_popescu: i came out of retirement for like the third fucking time to design non-crap items ; asciilifeform narrowly avoided the bottle because apparently there were some people somewhere actually engineering, as opposed to tubgirling all over themnselves. and so following.

mircea_popescu: "Nobody becomes a software engineer because they love writing code; they become a software engineer because it allows them to build out ideas." << this is not so in my experience. from what i've seen in others, and certainyl in my own case, we become engineers because everythinf everyone else does is shit.

mircea_popescu: trinque is deedbot sick ? i notice he kinda quit doing the rss also

elaineo: i got the OTP through PM

mircea_popescu: hey, i'm not invested in this.

mircea_popescu: if this form of organziation, govt, what you call it, society, ANYTHING does not come with promise of permanence, why am i even considering it ?

mircea_popescu: i mean "Any thing at all" in the way of politics.

mircea_popescu: i thought the whole fucking point of politics was to discover the thing that needn't die.

asciilifeform: i dun think mircea_popescu ever told the story, aside from the detail where he had an extra hole. so nfi.

mircea_popescu: i even kept it a while.

mircea_popescu: the only extra hole in my hide i acquired through ricochet under car, nearly lost a knee. ☟︎

mats: asciilifeform: i never encountered it but i wasn't infantry, we didn't have a use for it, snipers had m24

mircea_popescu: neh. because if you're behind a concrete wall and i'm behind a concrete wall, i'd rather unzip and piss on you than try and fire a shitass 5mm gun

a111: Logged on 2017-09-30 19:26 asciilifeform: modern historians paint the textbook edits, 'gentle suggestions', etc. as an evil, but as i see it the man went and 'tried soft power' first

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-30#1718796 << re this, the ~whole objection re trump is that he didn't go into the first press conference with "1. nobody who worked for us govt in the past five years can continue to do so ; 2. i will propose at most one name to congress. they have 48 hour to approve. if i don't propose, or they don't approve, or they approve in 48h01m, the whole dept in question gets unwound, including by publ ☝︎

asciilifeform: i can see even why stalin might've nailed kirov, his personal friend

asciilifeform: i've nothing against a version where he Had To Have Problems, but currently not seeing anything that'd point in that direction

asciilifeform: i mean, if we're still doing yaroslavsky, as far as available data goes, d00d lived and died a bootlick

mircea_popescu: i find all 1943 cases of cancer highly suspect.

asciilifeform: i suspect we have a bitrot artifact.

mircea_popescu: it is customary to sing them like i tell jokes : about the persons present.

mircea_popescu: now, i'm pretty sure i got them right, esenin's wife and yaroslavski. but old ro guard disagrees,

asciilifeform: near as i can tell, the folx pissing on stalin today, divide into usefulidjits and the actively pantsuited ( who would ~prefer~ an argentina in place of su )

mircea_popescu: i just wanna be able to decode five syllables on an ancient rca record. the man says, in romanian phonetics, "raic si slavski"

asciilifeform: beheaded ~100k or so (near as i can tell) 'pantsuits' , to make it stick.

asciilifeform: modern historians paint the textbook edits, 'gentle suggestions', etc. as an evil, but as i see it the man went and 'tried soft power' first ☟︎

asciilifeform: though i will add that if there had been not a stalin, and this were not done, su would look like zimbabwe (or, charitably, argentina et al)

mircea_popescu: problem compounded by the fact that my only interest in the matter stems from an obscure mention in an post-war anti-soviet propaganda song by some guy i studied.

mircea_popescu: sorry asciilifeform . all i have are my own notes, which are as all hand notes useless without hte backing of the library of origin (in this case, the universitary library of cluj). teh interwebs dun seem to have a "here's the list of trotsky letters". ☟︎

asciilifeform: all i dug up is various folx contesting the authorship

mircea_popescu: oook, i found reference! lyova wrote to trotsky on 19 nov 1937, and trotsky replied jan 22 next year, they are discussing the stalin ban on the yaroslavsky item!

mircea_popescu: might have died of cancewr, i guess.

asciilifeform: i assume we're discussing the propagandist ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-30#1718706 << i find it interesting how the racket is supposed, evidently, to work : the details somehow 'have been reified into The Consensus Reality (tm)(r) and consequently Only A Terrorist would demand to 'reopen the case', demand raw figures, verifiable-anythings. ☝︎

asciilifeform: 'but i was just orcing, like any other orc'

asciilifeform: and incidentally whenever i dig out an actual case file ( there are not many in public domain , no prizes for guessing why ) it dun read like a 'arrested for nuffin'

mod6: werd. exciting stuff. wish i could help more :/

mod6: <+asciilifeform> the sane approach consists of isolating all of the unixoid crud in separate .ads/.adb , make it compact. << ah, this is even deeper than i have it for sure.

asciilifeform: ( i.e. no possibility of string fandango, etc )

mod6: i'm strictly doing c callouts.

mod6: ya. i was looking at your stuff to sort of guide me a bit.

asciilifeform: you will notice, for mmap i picked the latteer

asciilifeform: ( i have not personally tried )

mod6: i'd been avoiding using GNAT libs... maybe I shouldn't have been?

a111: Logged on 2017-09-30 16:04 mircea_popescu: i thought mta ran on public funds.

mod6: but as far as I can tell, there is no way to do that in ada. the general thing i've seen out on the web is that you must write the output of the shell command to a file, then read it back in.

mod6: for example, I do a bunch of this in perl: @result = `gpg --bla --bla`; foreach(@result) { }

mod6: Another thing worth the mention is that my ada-vtron shells out to gpg - which adds some time as well. one thing I think that would help is if I could figure out how to capture the shell command output directly back into the application instead of having to write to a file, then read the file back into the program.

mod6: The good news is I'm learning stuff.

mod6: Doing such, avoid use of the heap. And there is quite a bit of manipulation I have to do with the strings. So that adds some cost, because I'm basically doing the parsing on my own. I'm not using any weird 3rd party libs.

mod6: Basically when working with Strings.Fixed I end up making arrays (of fixed size) of strings (of fixed size), need to use caution always to not continue to iterate if the string at a given index is filled with ' '.

mod6: To close the loop here a bit, the vtron stuff I've been doing in ada is a lot faster now than it was -- just needed to get some better loop control.

mircea_popescu: i thought mta ran on public funds. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i dunno, i was thinking of the large rapper stuff automatically.

mircea_popescu: i guess.

mircea_popescu: i don't mean they can't fucking drive a car. i mean that they can't throw it.

mircea_popescu: (i don't even mean bulk per se. most fucktoys have eg delicate wrists. can't really use guns effecutally if your two fists together weigh less than a gulp of beer.)

a111: Logged on 2017-09-30 01:00 mircea_popescu: hey, i made respectable woman buy herself glitzy gold sequin shoes. it's a sex thing.

asciilifeform: aha and i'm sure chapo had also normal kalash

mircea_popescu: iirc i linked pic.

asciilifeform: once even saw barrel pink ( how ? and does it crack and flake when fired? i've nfi )

mircea_popescu: "but i look like a bimbo" "that's precisely the idea"

asciilifeform: pink, i shit ther not, stocks, grips, straps, etc

mircea_popescu: hey, i made respectable woman buy herself glitzy gold sequin shoes. it's a sex thing. ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but it wasn't fiction, this is actual product, i saw it in store

mircea_popescu: i always like people who can't distinguish its value from it's time to suck my cock.

asciilifeform: https://i.warosu.org/data/biz/img/0036/59/1506689270035.jpg << via subj. win.

mircea_popescu: don't ask me wtf sense they';re supposed to make, i dun see it.

mircea_popescu: i can picture too. that tribe, like the yarvin tribe, like the yukowsky tribe, like all the "alt" bullshits, exactly like "debian was an early apple appstore" and so on.

asciilifeform: i can picture:

mircea_popescu: my memory is that the summation read "o wow, you guys rock, i am very influential in my own tribe will redirect leadership tomorrow"

asciilifeform: i expect somewhere with open mouth, towards sky

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i see it, the dersturmer+dns folx are fixated on 'pushing', i.e. 'if i use raw ip, how will audience who sits with open mouths waiting for rain, know where the replacement box lives if isp evicts'

mircea_popescu: i didn't forbid them from growing a wot presence.

asciilifeform: oh hey i recall the ar museum piece

mircea_popescu: i took girls to cr natl bank museum today ; in the numismatic section they had local scrip

asciilifeform: ( btw i've yet to see a firmware defanger published for any brand of colortreekiller, to date. )

asciilifeform: if usg wants asciilifeform's genomic samples, whether for phrenological nonsense or to plant on the deathray trigger that killed jfk or whichever, they can bloody well come and collect at own expense. i ain't sending any.

BingoBoingo was trying to see what percent victim I was

BingoBoingo did swab thing back in pre-Republican before time when more bold than paranoid, supposedly has polyorphism. Responded with "Fuck you genes, I do what I want" ran until

mircea_popescu: i will point it out that prior to say 1500, people didn't see "sioux" and "drunkedness" in same sentence either.

asciilifeform: this ^ is first time i see 'chinese' and 'depressive disorder' in same sentence

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i have nfi.

mircea_popescu: somehow, and i have yuet to pierce this mystery, people on the side of pantsuit always assume they own the world, natively. whereas people on the side of the republic, at least verbally, always assume the opposite, and start derping about how i've to prove shit and so on. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i'm not saying it's a big deal, no.

BingoBoingo: In seekoority ex-part solutions https://i.redditmedia.com/gBXKccLboeUOlm_zCZmx8ruCfFGrPGQFP_TrYzI6Hwg.jpg?w=768&s=b332705632a052c59962b430f7b6ac1e

asciilifeform: 'Writing in response to a tweet from technologist Mason Borda which read: "Zcash is the only altcoin (that i know of) designed and built by professional and academic cryptographers. Hard to ignore," Snowden replied, "Agree."'

a111: Logged on 2016-09-26 17:33 asciilifeform: incidentally i find it quite hilarious that three years after the snowden catalogue leak, the constellation of symptoms of rf bug illuminator victims is still Officially 'schizo'

asciilifeform: in other lulz, via BingoBoingo , '"Reality, uh, you know we obviously know a lot more than... than what we're telling you at this point. And I think you know a lot more than what you're telling us at this point. I don't want you to go down the wrong road. I think you need to... to stop and think about what you're saying and what you're doing. Uhm, you know, I... I think it's a... an opportunity to maybe tell the truth. Because, uh, t

fromphuctor: about the Phuctor/PGP related things i ask another time

fromphuctor: i would have thought maybe russian authors would be more suited

fromphuctor: that is why i find it is worth investigating