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mircea_popescu: oh btw, should prolly formalize the function/mechanism thing from yest a bit. so, a function (in the correct, math understanding, a "procedure" in cs lingo is no different, which is why lisp hasn't "procedures") denotes correct results, but does not connote any particular method of obtaining them. this is no good for us, in many military applications, where we must actually specify not merely WHAT is being sought, but also HO
asciilifeform: but makes a pretty spiffy frying pan handle.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i know that aerogel ain't a maxwell's demon, lol
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 17:17 asciilifeform: apeloyee: anything that beats multiply-then-divide is an improvement, so long as it meets the basic demands ( constant time, constant space, NO branches that depend on input bits, no use of approximations, no massively heavy - 100 loc is a good approx max - code )
mircea_popescu waves at phf. check it out, we can wreck your logs for multiple days in a row!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you realise thermic isolation is a time function, yes ? eventually all parts of assemblage do end up in thermic equilibrium, there's no pill for this. insulation just makes it take longer is all.
asciilifeform: there is imho a marked difference tho b/w 'nobody mass produces this' and 'nobody knows how'
asciilifeform has a coffin notebook little list of items that nobody knows how to produce industrially, and so never expects to touch with own hands
asciilifeform: aerogel'd make a spiffy pedestal for sram pc...
asciilifeform: and not only could be, but could be attached to the end of a red hot poker , and subject would feel no heat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enough there is a monument to this aluminum right here . washington obelisk has a top, 'priceless' pyramid of al
mircea_popescu: (and to round off the above : consider that the first metallic aluminum was shaped into a box and offered to the same person as the ironclad drawings were offered. whyssat ? cuz that's how all science flew back when people could control it.)
asciilifeform: did we ever do the chronometer thing ? a bit like that there egg, likewise craftsman 'unindustrial' product, and made the british navy briefly +ev
mircea_popescu: more importantly -- that the chinese DID takle over "industry", as well they should ; but that survival and prosperity depends on THIS. let them have THAT industry, it's actually a great fit for them.
mircea_popescu: so : the faberge egg, the original, was made in 1885 ; but it was the continuation and in a sense the crowing of a current of thought (ie, culture) and proper civilisation that reached back over a centry. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: dood could have been a general discussing importantly female transsexuals in the french expeditionary force
mircea_popescu: it's a longer running item than computing!
mircea_popescu: before europe went stupid, and blacklivesmatter all over itself, there was a major concern with making mechanical life.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 19:21 mircea_popescu: way the fuck cheaper socially than my stricter "i will only have children in a society where i get to decide if they live or die"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713729 << this is not even a correct statement. more properly "i will desist killing all my offspring before gestation completes if and only if my sovereign right to kill them at any time is socially recognized". ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: So long as Trump can pull GOP to electoral sweet spot of a little economically liberal and a lotta socially conservative
mircea_popescu: way the fuck cheaper socially than my stricter "i will only have children in a society where i get to decide if they live or die" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: come to think of it, the arrangement where the woman is a slave (like every sultan's consort up to roxana) and her offspring ARE SLAVES TOO until such a time father thinks otherwise (which yes, can be coming of age, if ever) is probably best way to do it.
mircea_popescu: jefferson was, in truth, a bit of a lulzfest after his unseating. somewhat of an early us ron paul / jirinowski etc.
trinque: what a life
mircea_popescu: the pretention that "they have other things to do" a flimsy wrapper over the obvious "you've nobody that'd take you in"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it'd work a-ok for all the current ronin ones.
asciilifeform: worked a-ok for him
mircea_popescu: the particular woman in question was yes, domestic slavegirl, it's a thing, it works well.
mircea_popescu: this is a solid point.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a lot more common than realised, on account of accomplished adult male not having patience for the older female only mode of life (the claque).
mircea_popescu: and if they had been jewish, all her older female relatives would have gotten misty in the cobweb, "omfg he's a DOCTOR!!!"
mircea_popescu: what exactly am i asked to believe, that woman whose name only exists because she was bought by jefferson family somehow had other priorities ? like what, sexual congress with the black males ? odds are she'd have rather fucked a donkey.
asciilifeform: at one time i thought 'hm would be nifty to get an ural' but then noticed that d00d has the pistons laid out on a towel in his front yard, more often that i ever hear or see the machine actually go
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there were some zundapps still on the road when asciilifeform was a boy, in orcistan
mircea_popescu: a yeah right shinohai
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: where i live one still sees these ~exclusively in the warm months, driven by hobbyists -- rather than commuters who can't afford petrol for a 4cyl
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: A couple towns away there is Vespa/Ural dealer
asciilifeform: i have a neighbour who has, i shit thee not, a 'ural'
mircea_popescu: as if it were a thing.
mircea_popescu: (maybach was an old luxury brand bought by mercedes ; maserati idem, early 1900s brand, bought by fiat ; spun off with alpha romeo and abarth recently cuz who wants a fiat)
mircea_popescu: ahahaha no fucking way, lumea s-a schimbat, hipster rapper driving lawnmower ?
mircea_popescu: it's ~5bux a gallon in costa rica, romania, sweden, you name it.
mircea_popescu: usg petrol is half price atm, and has been for a decade.
mircea_popescu: arts actually getting kicked back, jungle taking over, he wants a MEGA INSANE DYSFUNCTIONAL ITEM (ie, he is now affraid of sense -- because all thatr sense has to say to him is "you're fucked|" )
mircea_popescu: no, i mean from the following cultural perspective : for as long as road network continues growing, the user wants massive, impressive beast of a steel machine. to show his supremacy over the attendant landscape in proper context (ie, he's affraid of the wilderness roads expand into). once expansion stops, he wants an efficient little thing, to get it over the next guy (ie, he's affraid of neighbour). and once road network st
asciilifeform: from buyer's pov it'd be a 'for' yes
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you should have seen that thing, it was a proper tenderloin, all of it. which you know, you do if you have a dozen people coming.
mircea_popescu: dig up a new pool, that she quits her job, and that they EAT A STEAK.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i watched last night "fun with dick and jane", which is a fine throwaway. other than tea leoni making a way the fuck better applegate/bancroft/whatever (these typically ustardian huswife of businessman roles, where businessman is one of those schmucks doing nothing, "vp of ziggler-engels" sorta thyings). but the interestinfg part is : the guy gets a promotion. the signalling signs of this promotion are, that they
BingoBoingo: Crossover being a tall station wagon like peak hype cashgrab SUV, except pretense of leaving road abandoned.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It transformed into "Crossover" craze. iirc pete_dushenski has a blog on this. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i kinda always wondered why exactly the SUV craze stopped. i mean, once you give up on sense, there's no way to land, is there ? they could have made a DOUBLE SIZED "car", that takes up two lanes, and could carry that much more injected plastic on the frame. ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Failure to manage is exactly how the fortunes bestowed to select members of the urban underpriviledged get captured by Amway and other MLM scams. It's also the story of Bitcoin history from Obsi through Gigavps through labcoin to Ether huffing. Money naturally attracts old women who want it to turn into a Walmart, but a "nicer" one than the neighbors have.
mircea_popescu: once it's a story of stupid old women, it's history.
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : a) http://cartooncon.org/ b) http://www.cartooncon.org/wp-content/xzi/caiozri.php?id=deocamdata-sinonim
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, after the millionaire show and a few other mega jackpots the game shows transitioned to "reality tv" which at first had prizes and then simply came with attention and opportunity to make own fortune or peril
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713462 << i suspect back before the "end of the world" people had a firm dislike for "life changing prizes". because hadn't experienced disruption in the proper sense ; and understood the lottery winner problems. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ideallly. i don't have a fixedtime reciprocal finder. ☟︎
apeloyee: standard barrett requires a*b<n^2, yes. hence I specified the double-precision reciprocal.
asciilifeform: ffa modular mult MUST produce correct answer for ALL possible inputs a,b,n.
asciilifeform: this is not compatible with my demand of a fully general modular mult op.
asciilifeform: and incidentally barrett , as iirc i mentioned in yesterday's thread, requires that a*b < n^2.
apeloyee: can't extract a reduced-length number?
asciilifeform: is it not getting through that once you introduce a 2B-bit item, you are working in ffa of 2B bitness ?
apeloyee: what woud be wrong with barrett reduction if you calculate a sufficiently precise reciprocal of modulus N,i.e. (maxint+1)^2/N?
asciilifeform: apeloyee: anything that beats multiply-then-divide is an improvement, so long as it meets the basic demands ( constant time, constant space, NO branches that depend on input bits, no use of approximations, no massively heavy - 100 loc is a good approx max - code ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/xFSpv << '...statue of Thomas Jefferson in black Tuesday night during a rally criticizing the university’s response to recent white nationalist demonstrations...' etc lulz >> qntra fodder ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-13#1713470 << ~organ~ tech, phf, organ. 88 keyz ain't a comp kbd. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'how to propose' 'how to delay or hasten menses' ... 'exercises for bigger tits' 'how to please a man' ...
asciilifeform: 'Your face is now your password. Face ID is a secure new way to unlock, authenticate, and pay.'
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/09/12/apple-do-you-care/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - “Apple, do you care?”
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> superficially it seems like omfg lotta money ; but not so bad. people can afford to make eg icecube trays that retail for 3 bux ie cost a quarter each. how many of those sell ? 10k if you're lucky. << /me read as "lotto money"
asciilifeform: but i specifically refuse'em because NOT ORTHOGONAL, they don't belong as part of a general-purpose numbertheoretical minimal 'crypto lego set'.
mircea_popescu: and he produces a 12 page item.
mircea_popescu: so you will have a gold-iridium head stored in paris ?
asciilifeform: a tub of liquishit -- fits in none.
asciilifeform: a proper fits-in-head item fits in the literate man's head.
asciilifeform: i'd like it not to be lost upstack, so will restate ftr : a 'optimized' rsa that no longer fits in head and is no longer demonstrably-correct , ( and worse yet, no longer operates branch-free ) is NOT RSA and is simply a turd being fraudulently passed off as the genuine article
mircea_popescu: (ftr, what teh lordship usually catcalls as your "Goalpost sliding" is really your most carnal aspect. you sound JUST like a woman when you do it.)
mircea_popescu: and then a rule is added to the set.
asciilifeform: wtf is it, a car design + racing contest
asciilifeform: 2+ param optimization is a punishment, not entertainment
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the race is a fuzzy thing to begin with, if the cars can be arbitrarily altered
asciilifeform: the process is 'must fit in head'. for so long as item fits in head, it is demonstrably solving the stated problem ( which, unsurprisingly, must also fit in head as a statement )
mircea_popescu: point being, until and unless the process is thoroughly and well understood, we'll keep being blindsided by "mining is a bug" bugs.
asciilifeform: it's a pollutant.
mircea_popescu: sounds a lot like "your house is fine mr p, for as long as you hold on to this here bearing beam"
mircea_popescu: this is a cycle
mircea_popescu: the sort of culture of the 70s/80s of which "need for speed" franchise is a sad bastardization in the ustardian hot topic sense ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno how many people you will have to shoot to keep them from taking your general-purpose p-based rsa and writing a narrower, "works for rsa only" faster program.
mircea_popescu: it's a complicated problem./
asciilifeform: if idjits want to optimize in a way that results in nonfittinginhead, they may as well install winblowz
mircea_popescu: which is a serious point of alarm in my head at this juncture.
mircea_popescu: so, want a frog you can kiss into housekeeper&cocksucker all you want, for all the good'll do ye.
mircea_popescu: anyways. i spent some time where the math lives, and i am satisfied that proving some sort of hard relation between fxy=mod(xy) and a polynomial expression of xy is in fact reality-breaking.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 22:20 asciilifeform: i'ma need to find a proof that this holds for all integers.
asciilifeform: the saving grace is that indeed i and everybody else can get by without ideal modelf kbd. but on the other hand i ~do~ need a modmulter.
mircea_popescu: there's even dedicated "investment" stupid money chasing such "ideas". not as many as there were in the 90s, owing to a lot of unfortunate interactions with various "transhuman" tards past 20 years, but still some.
asciilifeform: but for some odd reason he made a variant without f-keys, arrows, numpad