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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: think ought to 'per cmd' help eh.
snsabot: mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
snsabot: mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
snsabot: mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'seen' dunwork yet
snsabot: mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime
asciilifeform: yw diana_coman . it is not difficult to add knobs, whole thing is <1000ln.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, the plan was to first federate, then move. we're not progressing re federation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phf's had the activity graph. i did not clone it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not seen, iirc
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, aha.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: no idea yet; and on one hand there's merit to "other than pizarro" but onth ugh where "other"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, conceivably. besides, he has a point, not bad to have another one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and incidentally frontend is based on ye olde phuctor's
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: hm; the chan is meant to be official rather than community (like eulorum) so I suppose at some point we should, shouldn't we;
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it lives on dulap
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : at the very least, would ~very~ much like there to be at least a 2nd logger, somewhere other than piz, for redundancy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: indeed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: something like bitcoin's merkle-style order-indep. hashing would potentially work . but still relies on clock sync, otherwise no 2 boxes have same notion of interval to be hashed
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i meant, do you think we should
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: we don't run a logger; the site is on shared hosting with pizarro
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re synced-loggers -- i sat for whole day thinking about this, but in the end came to same conclusion as mircea_popescu , i.e. that it is moar complicated than appears, fleanode will liberally reorder lines
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had nfi 'qr' even existed in '80s
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have a half-written 'raw csv' shitter knob, won't make it into genesis but prolly will be among 1st patches afte
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not easy to picture how might fuck up ocr pistol, but i suppose not impossible
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, do we run a logger on minigame servers btw ? or no webserver keks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these were pcb-mounted things, for potential inclusion in larger device.
asciilifeform: wb diana_coman
mircea_popescu: ohai diana_coman
asciilifeform: well can also do like we did FG site and mircea_popescu write 'hey make the grey deeper' and then asciilifeform goes an' turns knob. but, will take longer i expect.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: after genesis will be pretty easy to stand up local copy. so in fact if you like can set the colours in person and vpatch, i will read, sign, upload to dulap..
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 15:43:31 mircea_popescu: dun dun dun.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu lemme know at any pt if you want chans in there (i think i got all the currently alive people)
mircea_popescu: /msg ChanServ SET #trilema ENTRYMSG To speak here you must be voiced by one of the lords. Talk to asciilifeform , BingoBoingo , diana_coman , hanbot , trinque
asciilifeform: re mircea_popescu's postmortem -- perhaps phf still in bed half-dead, but wtf was errybody else's excuse.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: https://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4309
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lemme know if you want the clock fiddled, i think it's gmt right nao
mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo now that i can drop it in, do you recall the lafond article in question ? i remember fucking reading it, but i can't find it again ;/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: maybe add the logger www to banner ? if you feel like
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: more interestingly, asciilifeform found that he has py-de-gpgation thing already lying around from when wrote snsa-shop telecontroller. so actually can bolt it on. would rather genesis current ver 1st tho.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: deedbot gave 'em voice
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^ worx
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 15:43:31 mircea_popescu: dun dun dun.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you voice the thing , it'll echo
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 2 weeks, 3 days, 11 hours, and 14 minutes ago: <mp_en_viaje> remember you wanted to !!rate -10 princessnell http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-22#1924146
mod6: !Q later tell mp_en_viaje http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/OmWqw/?raw=true << Saw the logger died and you were not in-chan.
mod6: Ah, jeeze. mircea_popescu isn't here is he.
asciilifeform: and, the other q, is writing log www somehow lethally dangerous work ?! kako wrote -- succumbed to brain fungus. Framedragger -- succumbed. phf -- ditto. ben_vulpes -- ???!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes ( or trinque , plox to whisper in his ear ) : phf might be dead, but afaik you aint! where is the genesis of yer www log front end ? why are we down to ONE half-maintained log bot ? does asciilifeform have to drop errything and try an' bake a logger ? why ?
mod6: I've been pondering mircea_popescu's reponse to the above link since the statement was made. I'm not sure how I went wrong here, but not adding to the existing SHA512 vtree is what I understood my instructions to be. ☝︎
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-01#1926112 << These go back to this, I did test those ones when they came in. iirc they did work alright when I tested them. I stopped adding these items to the working vtree (SHA512) when mircea_popescu said, and instead started working towards getting the keccak vtree built & then getting it onto cuntoo. Figured once there & stab ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-08-01 12:41 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: lobbesbot. The heathen VPS it is hosted on is migrating their servers. Hopefully will be back online in 24 hours (I didn't want 100% of my stuff on Pizarro; potential central point of failure and all)
a111: Logged on 2019-08-01 21:01 dorion: I have a trb node pressed to asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch plus a local modification to add a new rpc. This node was was fully synced for a couple days, but has failed to verify block 588012.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje et al : ^ pretty nasty , surprised no one has observed this effect before.
dorion: Given the truncated hashes, I pressed to asciilifeform_whogaveblox.vpatch (which includes mod6_excise_hash_truncation.vpatch), stopped the node and restarted with the new binary.
dorion: I have a trb node pressed to asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch plus a local modification to add a new rpc. This node was was fully synced for a couple days, but has failed to verify block 588012. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'mailinator', 'gmx', etc spamtraps still afaik work
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there are actually coupla dozen (that asciilifeform knows of) schemes similar in scope to luby's -- i picked his simply cuz a) works b) minimal complexity
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: btw this is another application where box with FG wins -- generating fast-converging luby frags
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: hunchentoot is known to run on e.g. sbcl, ccl , where compiled.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: cl (aside from egregiously retarded incarnations, e.g. gnu's) aint interpreted, lol
asciilifeform: imho if stuck with ugly piece of shit, would still rather have one w/out the nulltermstring, buf overrun, offbyone, etc. bugola. but i see mp_en_viaje's pt
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: at one time in '17 asciilifeform tried hand at writing basic ada www server. ended up burning it all. because ended up looking quite like 'hunchentoot', and quite evidently 'water took the shape of the bottle', i.e. inescapably
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: imho described upstack 100% covers it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i was only able to eat w/out choking because already, decade+ ago, had read 'hunchentoot' an' barfed
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: yes selection on your pages work, and so does younghands.club, .. seen it before and just rechecked.
asciilifeform: shrysr: mp_en_viaje's orig item worx 100% errywhere (that i've tried)
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: just tried on a 'fresh' chrome installation.. still don't see it.
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: i thought the 2nd solution browser independent? I'm using the firefox dev edition
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lol i have'em moar 'classically' modeled as simply 'beggar' energy level
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i thought progression were more usually e.g. x -> y -> rapper -> p -> q -> beggar rather than x -> beggar -> y
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: I implemented the 2nd article's directions - just tried... not working on my browser
shrysr: mp_en_viaje: works fine ??
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: also their pw reset mechanism is broken, i've been trying to log in & cancel acct for 3+ yrs nao (erry 6mo or so) and been to their india-powered 'support line' even. no dice.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: they send spam like it's 1999 lol
a111: Logged on 2019-08-01 09:21 mp_en_viaje: ahahaha what the everloving fuck! bingo@patreon ?!
a111: Logged on 2019-08-01 07:00 mp_en_viaje: btw, i got like 60 pingbacks from you, that are all dupes. i mean... http://trilema.com/2013/ripple-the-definitive-discussion/#comment-95245 exists, but now there;s also one from http://bingology.net/2013/09/26/anti-bitcoin-bitcoin-apps-part-3-gliph-in-particular/?b=Rippl&e=#select
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 23:49 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thinking about it -- 'zxc' strikes me as a classic case of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-25#1866191 and impedence mismatch generally. it was clearly written as attempt to 'deterministic scheduler on ??? iron/os', but fails, cuz you can't actually spackle away impedence mismatch b/w the underlying platform and the proggy
a111: Logged on 2019-07-26 18:53 mp_en_viaje: im guessing for this one time http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fn1VH/?raw=true will have to be it ; but for the love of christ, what are you doing to me here ? am i going to simply ignore your articles because i know for a fact i'm not interestreded in reading something i can't comment on and you're forcing on me the dilemma of either not commenting at all or else losing it in pastes ? this won't do, if i use an hour to read a post i
asciilifeform: spyked: can pleeeez haz comments on your www ? ( at the risk of repeating mp_en_viaje's , srsly, 'no comment box' is quite discouraging in re reading) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-07-28 23:01 mp_en_viaje: as per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1806991 tradition i don't even have enough information to distinguish between the case where "phf bleeding to death in a minsk ditch" ; "phf in love forgot all about world" ; "phf kidnapped by unreported alien invasion" or literally any other alternative. nfi how to approach it, either, tried everything i could think of.
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: re: lobbesbot. The heathen VPS it is hosted on is migrating their servers. Hopefully will be back online in 24 hours (I didn't want 100% of my stuff on Pizarro; potential central point of failure and all) ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: in other old lulz, http://trilema.com/2014/cunt-size-discussion-this-is-guaranteed-to-be-weird/#footnote_1_53633
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: I'll dig up some code to restore recent comments to the sidebar
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: thinkin' moar re the 'monkeys' -- imho these were the folx continuing to build dec clones , crapples & other micros, and in the inevitable march to microshit hell. rather than the bolix/lmi folx. these, imho, did Right Thing. (even if ended by plugging embrasure with torso)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: what even is the meaning of 'stealth ship' given satellite, cheap networked sonobuoys, etc ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: where, in your analysis, was the man, and where -- the monkey ?
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 08:37 mp_en_viaje: but, coincidentally, since they were building 1e5 rocket sites, they decided to also build 1e5 radars. cuz it makes sense, i guess, passibely, whatever.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 17:00 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925827 << except it's not two agents, but more like three to five, and they behave like children in spite of being this current civilisation's specific heroes (id est, older men with knowledge). it's like if there was ru folk tale of "then the three ilya muromets fought each other like morons while potato blight took over the land"
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 08:55 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925770 << rather, led to perestroika, which did provide a breather (making the f19 possible, only time us shone in the air)
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 08:38 mp_en_viaje: this obsoletes "stealth" technology, because you can lie to a few people all the time but not to all the people all the time. there's no way to scatter radiation so that none of ~uknown-position~ 1e5 radars sees it. and with modern telecom and computing, it's trivial to link these so any can detect scatter from any.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 07:24 mp_en_viaje: happens to also be the only useful application of sintering known, but that aside.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 08:38 mp_en_viaje: this means a race to the bottom, everyone who paid for stealth wants to get as much value from it right now before it's worthless completely.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 08:15 mp_en_viaje: fwiw, i've been re-reading the symbolics discussion, still just as fucking stumped on http://trilema.com/2018/the-symbolics-discussion/?b=now,%20why&e=they.#select as ever. a year passing has brought me no clarity.
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 07:02 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-31#1925756 << in fairness though, the design of an object with particular refractive properties is necessarily more software than hardware -- it's the ultimate "measure 10mn times cut once" item, for each shape that ends up being built, 10e10 or 10e20 or w/e alternative shapes are investigated, ray-traced...
a111: Logged on 2019-07-31 05:37 mp_en_viaje: they call it musket
a111: Logged on 2016-04-28 16:43 mircea_popescu: shinohai it should perhaps be added that a decade ago, when romania was fresh in nato etc, there was a joint exercise, with romania being designated the bad guy because they flew migs.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 14:27 mircea_popescu: there is no, strictly speaking, reason that iron MUST be provided on the surface of a planet just like the earth. it ~could~, very well, have simply gone through a place poor in planetoids and ended up entirely iron free on the surface. but it did not.
mp_en_viaje: oh look at that, ever-so-useful monkey-man "spellchecker" doesn't approve of sintering. because holy shit, psychopaths, using words outside of the outer realms of monkey-man knowledges