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asciilifeform: i mean, yes, bitpay is a usg op
decimation: also they would very likely summon usg
mircea_popescu: "ideology" ? yeah, that's right : usg's fucking ideology.
mircea_popescu: and the infortmation of WHO READS IT is not usg's business.
ascii_field: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/03/11/why-did-victims-in-islamic-state-beheading-videos-look-so-calm-they-didnt-know-it-was-real << usg's canned response to ^
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1199899 < the majority of these blacks are actually 'spending' usg's money ☝︎
ascii_field: for all we know, usg just finished installing 900Mhz intercept network and now is banking on 'streisand effect' to get us to use it.
ascii_field: punkman: not like usg considers the question 'is this trivial to make' before they gag
ascii_field: pretty snoreworthy idea, but apparently hamhandedly desaparecido by usg
ascii_modem: back to the mexican fella - in a very important sense he is more dependent on usg staying in business than a u.s. post office director
mircea_popescu: by the time "systemd" is a word, usg-as-nsa is no longer.
ascii_modem: usg hasnt given a fuk re conquest in the normal sense of the word since war with spain.
decimation: so it would indirectly funded by usg at best
decimation: usg's classic move is to pay $mil to contractor to tell it how it sucks, and then do nothing with the results
decimation: heh apparently usg paid its think tank to identify the top open source projects that 'need security investments' https://github.com/linuxfoundation/cii-census/blob/master/results.csv
ascii_modem: gabriel_laddel: usg claims earth and all of known unviverse
mircea_popescu: i guess as the flesh sears under the hot tongs, "high ranking" usg employees will scream how people "willingly paid taxes"
decimation: about 80% of usg depends on these kinds of 'willingly' gotchas
ascii_modem: will be with usg ads!
ascii_modem: both the money and the meat - countereconomic voodoo creations of usg
decimation: farm? also usg
ascii_modem: hotdog stand in podunk? usg, yes
ascii_modem: its all usg
decimation: usg or 'big 4'
mircea_popescu: that's a major point incidentally. we'll have to make our own crypto oscars, this usg situation is untenable
ascii_modem: 2) just about 'anyone who's anyone' in that entire subdiscipline is a usg career
decimation: mircea_popescu: I buy your political reasons, but aes was the 'winner' of a fairly large and open 'competition' and was then recommended by usg. How is that 'coming out of nowhere'?
decimation: it's been well covered in the us media that walmart 'arbitrages' usg benefits/slaves into profit
mircea_popescu: fucking hell, having usg-ssh imported into bitcoin wasn't bad enough
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-07-2015#1196623 << just like there exists a class of innocent nazi ministers, and nice soviet officials, and respectable usg civil servants and so on. THEORETICALLY. in practice, no. ☝︎
asciilifeform: if cheap autonomous flying machines haven't reignited usg interest in geographically-selected gps jamming, nothing will
decimation: usg can no longer employ/manage to keep the thing running
asciilifeform: (if anyone remembers the old eu/galileo thread, where usg pissed and moaned about not being given root on galileo)
asciilifeform: http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp50/primary-frequency-standards.cfm << illustration for n00bs, of usg's cesium fountain
decimation: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datum-Symmetricom-BC635PCI-U-PCI-Time-and-Frequency-Card-BC635PCI-QTY-Avail-/161733020476 < for folks wishing to create their own usg-free ntp server
asciilifeform: i have wanted that thing for years. but i;m not paying usg 500 for a book
decimation: because now even the little kids growing up today will know what they are signing up for if they work for usg
decimation: actually I predict this event will mark a turning point for usg
mircea_popescu: all i see here is, the usg is no longer a virgin. today, china raped them and they thanked it for the service.
asciilifeform: so when i worked in an army lab, it was 1 actual usg 'green badge' for 25-30 'purples'
asciilifeform: decimation: there is an official usg fiction that dirt lifted from 'airbus' isn't passed straight to 'boeing', etc
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 08:41:10; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194359 so there should be plenty examples of usg diddling a traffic on the backbone, could you please post one?
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=34&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCoQtwIwAzge&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com%2F58004844&ei=pLyeVcuAEcm2ogSx-5rgBg&usg=AFQjCNH_j-TsYTnEvRDHiEZH3WbYMAwywg&sig2=JNwKq1S17c8cSu5k9ZR6sA&bvm=bv.96952980,d.cGU
decimation: you set rtc, usg doesn't set your clock?
asciilifeform: so in that sense it is 'usg institution' in exactly the way my house, and my earthly carcass, are
jurov: and i keep telling you they already do cuz internet *is* usg institution
asciilifeform: i believe that it is wrong for a large network of bitcoin nodes to depend on a usg institution.
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 08:41:10; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194359 so there should be plenty examples of usg diddling a traffic on the backbone, could you please post one?
jurov: what is usg to do? risk diddling time on throngs of linux/windows machines?
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 01:59:04; asciilifeform: and this kind of dull, mechanistic diddlage is precisely what usg specializes in
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194359 so there should be plenty examples of usg diddling a traffic on the backbone, could you please post one? ☝︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 02:13:37; asciilifeform: the coasts are where usg hands out payola.
mircea_popescu: decimation: what usg agency would perform this work domestically? asciilifeform:at&t. << top kek
asciilifeform: i'll bite. what else will perma-wedge if usg clock moves 2h into the past for a day ?
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 03:18:58; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194158 << bitcoin actually has enough power structure to enforce a uniform rejection of usg leap second.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194577 << if mircea_popescu has figured out how to 'reject usg time', i'm all ears. ☝︎
decimation: wait, to be anti-leap second is to be pro-'usg controls time'
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 01:17:38; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1193950 << i keep own time, and usg introduces leap second. now what
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194158 << bitcoin actually has enough power structure to enforce a uniform rejection of usg leap second. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: the coasts are where usg hands out payola. ☟︎
asciilifeform: my point is that this kind of attack is not only the kind of thing usg specializes in, but pretty much the only thing they know how to do at all
decimation: and 'fucking with bitcoin' is probably pretty low on usg's hitlist (not that it should be so low)
decimation: what usg agency would perform this work domestically?
asciilifeform: and this kind of dull, mechanistic diddlage is precisely what usg specializes in ☟︎
decimation: if usg starts messing with gps it would be quickly noticed and shouted at
decimation: but that usg clock is depended on by and awful lot of shit
decimation: most ntp nodes are tracable to some source (yes often usg) to two layers
decimation: and usg fucking with the way computers distribute time would ultimately be noticed by some innocent bystander
decimation: usg didn't make this policy any more than england did
asciilifeform: in so far as you, i, and every other fella on the net wants to know 'what second' it is 'right now', we are dealing in usgtronics
asciilifeform: (yes, decimation will teach you to tell epoch time within +/1 1000 by using the stars and moon. that does not change the essence of the fact that global epoch synchronized by machines is a fiat - specifically usg - creature)
BingoBoingo: Leapweek would purely put USG time in the realm of clearly fiat time
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << i keep own time, and usg introduces leap second. now what << How often? A minute over a century and ignoring should be fine
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1193950 << i keep own time, and usg introduces leap second. now what ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: a matter of conventional agreementr, currently overseen by exactly usg.
asciilifeform: it's where i describe how bitcoin is not actually decentralized at all, but depends on a thoroughly usgificated network of political clocks
ascii_field: if usg wants to spend its coin this way, it can
ascii_field: just as usg turned their orbital nuke dropper into 'space shuttle'
ascii_field: well, afaik the 'precise' is not publicly known. but the ancient rumour that was taught to me was that it was a usg military propaganda trick
decimation: if usg can spam uv over a large area for hours, then you probably have bigger problems than money
decimation: in fact, someone who depises 'astronomical time' in favor of cesium time is also fully in favor of 'usg time'
ascii_field: but only launders usg money
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: usg was a major client
mircea_popescu: you will notice it is not actually a usg contractor. it's a sudanese contractor.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: no, it isn't 'greatest leak ever' - but certainly the most complete gutting of a usg contractor in history
mircea_popescu: they are the exact equivalent of materiel. the humvees the usg lost to isis work for isis just as well.
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 05:21:24; decimation: ionosphere will relay for free, cannot be pwned by usg
decimation: if 99% of miners use usg time, what's the use of wot-time?
asciilifeform: man, or usg gnome ?
decimation: ionosphere will relay for free, cannot be pwned by usg ☟︎
decimation: and yet, even usg manages to keep orbital rb clocks ticking
decimation: about 80% of it: use ntp! no time itself is owned by usg and so are all servers and isps!
decimation: usg charges for their nautical almanacs
decimation: you can calculate them yourself with winblows turdware and usg provided emphemeris data http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota/occult4.htm
decimation: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/08/us/f-16-and-small-private-plane-collide-in-midair-over-south-carolina.html < usg cares for its people
decimation: ie usg passthroughs
ascii_field: for ease of usgification
decimation: what usg cutouts?
mircea_popescu: decimation what i said was that if you use usg-supplied cutouts for that reduction, you're just doing a roundabout ntp call. might as well ask directly
ascii_field: ntp is low-enough traffic that most of the planet asks usg more or less directly