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ben_vulpes: as the machinery wears out, it...wears out.
danielpbarron: i've used cannabis as money; doesn't make it not stupid
NewLiberty: But having minted a fair share of silver, I have some opinions on the use of "dollar" as that paper drek
NewLiberty: But the word is not what is commonly referred to as a dollar
danielpbarron: he might as well
NewLiberty: "If this forks as currently proposed, I'll be selling all my BTC on Gavin's fork and mining on the other. I suspect I will not be the only one."
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform could you recommend a book that would serve as an 'amateur's intro to digital security' ?
brendafdez: they love anything that can be portrayed in a bad light as the shady things that happen in this third world country. Like using bitcoin to avoid selling the usd to the government and then selling the bitcoins in the street
brendafdez: they won't mention it as anything other than a website from 1993, it's above their head, they only realize it when it's too late. They wouldn't take me srlsly if i show them that xD
BingoBoingo: brendafdez: It will probably ingratiate you to no end with the NYtimes people if you point out that noone in Argentina seems as dangerous as that NYPD street gang
brendafdez: Well, if I ever get into the adware business I'll package it as a 'miner' and sponsor bitcoin conferences, no doubt
brendafdez: Last time was also Pete from Coindesk, he interviewed all the poeple claiming to run 'exchanges' here. There are a huge numer of such 'exchanges', most of which don't even exist like coinmelon (refered to by mp as coinmuon bc of the sign at the doorbell). Then there's Latincoin, which is also there athe 'embassy' and also doesn't even exist and is only piching to 'investors' to get money with no product. Last time they were asking for $7 ☟︎
brendafdez: I didn't ask him what move him. He's very interested in 'seeing the black market in action'. They see it in an amusing light, as if that's a bad thing or something, like going around the city with stacks of cash. And that's actually the closest it gets to bitcoin in fiat.
BingoBoingo: <brendafdez> it's the second time he's in Argentina interviewing the people he *thinks matter in bitcoin here << Thet tend to suck at identifying that, but it could just as much be the orders they recieve from their political commisar
BingoBoingo: I merely hypothesize RGIII as inpet enough to miss mocsony's men definitiomn
mircea_popescu: Mons Bendixen as well.
mircea_popescu: a) the difference is not even significantly above statistical noise ; b) significant fudge, such as, "women are more likely to self-flatter themselves this particular way" not accounted for in ANY manner.
mircea_popescu: "The results were overwhelming: 88 percent of women reported having experienced at least one incident in which their friendliness was misinterpreted as sexual interest by a man, and on average it had occurred about 3.5 times in the last year alone. Men also reported experiencing sexual misperception, but the rate — 70.6 percent — was far lower. These rates were pretty similar to what was found in the original, U.S.
mircea_popescu: decimation generally, as opposed to a speciffic one.
asciilifeform: the mechanicals can be driven with astonishingly small steps, as is
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as in, 'non-integrated' circuit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is thinking of soviet-style metal 'tin can' transistor as being used in the pdp, and is correct
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the 2 gram shits i had as a kid ?
asciilifeform: so, as i said, very simple through-hole boards
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily: diametric, i think, might be making a pcb this way as we speak
mike_c: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you might as well put my name on the wot job. looks like i'm doing it.
decimation: well, as has been covered by tlp, there is much profit to be made in labeling pathologies
decimation: as long as you have a 'health expense'
ben_vulpes: i suppose loss cost goes down as a function of herd size
ben_vulpes: max out of pocket (as if that can be trusted): 6k
BingoBoingo: Instructor was not very happy in cataloging class when I suggested I turn in my homework on cassette tape as it resembles the media most that MARC was made for.
BingoBoingo: ANd earlier in undergrad orders to stop submitting hmework as beautifully printed Latex
BingoBoingo: Early freshman year of college I was playing with slowaris and FreeBSD as serious computing solutions. Six years later I was contemplating upnade to windows 8 taken classes in VB.net for web applications because library school.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I went thorugh collenge notebooks stiking out entire years as total losses.
BingoBoingo: At this moment I am convinced that even in the absence of a crypto exploit for multisig the PR campaign persists to standardize a set of worst practices as "ISO"
decimation: mircea_popescu: "what he is saying is, "you can not give me an unbounded task and then expect me to reason about it. you already set the tone as metaphysical by your task description"" < aye, and he should have said "I cannot accomplish that which you desire"
asciilifeform: last thing i'll say about this for now is that it is a grave mistake to rebuild these starvation-camp machines as 'dawn of year zero.' these impossibly cramped programmable calculators are how we ended up with a braindamaged computing stack in the first place
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... making something like a z80, as long as it can be made at home, with equipment costing about what a z80 cost << absolutely. but it is important to understand that a z80 (or even intel 4004) is far, far closer to the 'pentium' than to anything that has ever been built entirely at home from discretes
pete_dushenski: as if
assbot: Logged on 18-02-2015 14:49:27; nubbins`: Save us from confusing grammar such as “everyone must have their books.” Make it instead “everyone must have zher books.” It then becomes clear that each person must have one’s own book and not the books of all the others. It is also shorter and less awkward than having to say “his or her” all the time.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2015#1023575 << and zher rather than zhis is obviously because the argument isn't what it's being presented as, but something quite else entirely. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: "And if some high official, such as the president, says zhe will use gender-neutral pronouns for zher own writing, and ask that those writing to zhim do so also, that would provide a powerful boost." << conversely, if some hehigh officialman such as the manpresidentguy fucked a dog^H^H^H bitch
nubbins`: might as well blame the wind. what's to gain?
mircea_popescu: what he is saying is, "you can not give me an unbounded task and then expect me to reason about it. you already set the tone as metaphysical by your task description"
mircea_popescu: it's not so much a "i want those guys back" as it is "i want the situaiton where being 20 and into computers was more distinctive than any other thing - and you could spot a govt mole from a mile away" ☟︎☟︎
jurov: as long as you made no transactions involving wires or floppies, then yes.
kakobrekla: you actually dont have to go that far. for me 100years + is pretty much as good as infinite, as i dont expect to see it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: but to somehow lay out electrical logic elements at the customary densities << you're right that it's the wrong thought, and also, "customary" - honestly even making something like a z80, as long as it can be made at home, with equipment costing about what a z80 cost, is well worth it.
jurov: what to do when said guy wants to keep said spider as pet?
jurov: i understod it as "replace her, him and it both by `zer`"
nubbins`: "The thing is, I don't think there will ever be mass adoption of the system as it exist today. The 'average Joe' will be using some payment processor and not the blockchain directly. So the blockchain will have transactions from payment processors and early adopters/enthusiasts. The rest will be in closed systems and/or side chains that can solve a lot of the volume issues."
nubbins`: all this "perhaps if we are just open about our abject failures as humans" stuff
danielpbarron: "Thanks. This is very enlightening and reveals the true motivations behind Mircea Popescu objections. He has made an investment in up to 10k nodes that would be obsolete if Gavin pushes through his hard fork. Why doesn't he honestly bring to the community these concerns as one of his principle motivations so we can try and find a solution together? The fact that he is not being forthright with this concern is troubling to sa
nubbins`: danielpbarron here, in times past, "thousands" was used as an immeasurable
danielpbarron: well if they aren't reporting a greater version then they might as well not be using it (the version is used to decide with the fork, hard or soft, happens)
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: My keys are airgapped, as in I am physically separated from access cause I don't have something secure to shuttle them en-mobile. I.e. cardano....
kakobrekla: no, but i can show negative rating as negative rating
nubbins`: as an aside, the pogoplug MOBILE (blue logo) does NOT accept SATA
nubbins`: i prefer to use "they" as a gender neutral pronoun
BingoBoingo: "And if some high official, such as the president, says it will use gender-neutral pronouns for its own writing, and ask that those writing to it do so also, that would provide a powerful boost." << Ther fixed with objectification
nubbins`: Save us from confusing grammar such as “everyone must have their books.” Make it instead “everyone must have zher books.” It then becomes clear that each person must have one’s own book and not the books of all the others. It is also shorter and less awkward than having to say “his or her” all the time. ☟︎
nubbins`: "And if some high official, such as the president, says zhe will use gender-neutral pronouns for zher own writing, and ask that those writing to zhim do so also, that would provide a powerful boost."
danielpbarron: yeah i've had an account for a while, but just noticed it's been flagged as "not human"
kakobrekla: gribble's auth is as good as assbots voice
nubbins`: BingoBoingo this is about as deserving of a system as the stack of plates in your kitchen cupboard :)
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: as opposed to...
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Think of it as a rescue mission. Save the precious BTC by trying to get them to safe private keys out of the web3.0 grasp.
decimation as well, night
ben_vulpes: someone took pity on me in the warehouse as i worked my way through quarter inch plate with a hand cutter and provided me with an acetylene torch.
asciilifeform regards C dissolving in Fe as an elementary fact
asciilifeform: that it was not deemed economical to use jewelled bearing, as americans did, and the oil of a certain inedible bean (forget which) was employed as lubricant
asciilifeform: about same as a teapot.
asciilifeform: my guess is that the rocket itself was viewed as 'redundant'
decimation: "I’m as strong as I have been. I think the only concern is our law enforcement is expected to stop every plot. Every attack. Any bomb on a plane. The first time that attack takes place in which it turns out that we had a lead and we couldn’t follow up on it, the public’s going to demand answers." < 'leadership' at its finest
decimation: http://archive.adaic.com/projects/atwork/boeing.html << "For these projects, Honeywell purchased DDC-I, Inc.'s Ada Compiler System, using it as the front-end source for Honeywell's symbolic debugger. "
asciilifeform: as in, something that actually provides the same functionality
asciilifeform: i've learned that there is not actually a good substitute for ada, as of yet.
asciilifeform: (but costlier, as decimation points out, with inflation)
asciilifeform: high vacuum, for instance, is still achieved in much the same ways as in 1930s
asciilifeform: as i pointed out earlier,
decimation: I don't see how one could 'shrink' a fab into anything smaller than it is (as it currently exists)
asciilifeform: sucks for exactly the same reasons as ordinary fpga
asciilifeform: as it demands high vacuum, among other finicky and expensive things
BingoBoingo: 7b0e48befe8051bdeb8a31272abb1b9067928e4a237110105897334a08b02fd197b47a52a3eb4bb508a2983b75e0457f059c85aff0f8aea9a161cb83fee14e31 << FOr plaintext saved as name "test.txt"
assbot: Strategic thinking as an exercise pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/19ux4cp )
BingoBoingo: Or http://trilema.com/2014/strategic-thinking-as-an-exercise/
asciilifeform: specifically this concept, as a paragraph or two
cazalla: i actually saw this the other day https://twitter.com/CAVIRTEX/status/567328589993897984 but let it slide as the website said something a little different (BTC and LTC wallets have been disabled due to a known issue. All customer funds are safe. Please be patient while we address the issue.)and i figured it would turn out as a nothing, way to be wrong eh
Adlai: incidentally, she did to, as will the doge
Adlai: swap is there as a failsafe, it ran just fine 101 days without it, but i'd rather not take chances if things go crazy while i'm asleep
asciilifeform: also why exactly are the separate instances running as separate unix processes
asciilifeform: that being, modest 'grey haired' boxes (as old as p3) with a modest mirrored raid, mechanical disks, half a gb of ram
Adlai: "i'm renting a physical *(yes)* box" <- as in, "have i visited the box personally and confirmed that it occupies the same reality as me? _yes_"
pete_dushenski: as if any of those words were descriptive or actionable
asciilifeform: the shop is a very new one ('macrofab') and their ordering gizmo is buggy as all hell
thestringpuller: Bitcoin Phoundation Client is as if Ricky wrote it.
asciilifeform: 'Blocks will be stored on disk out of order (in the order they are received, really), which makes it incompatible with some tools or other programs. Reindexing using earlier versions will also not work anymore as a result of this. The block index database will now hold headers for which no block is stored on disk, which earlier versions won’t support.'
asciilifeform: who has no safe way of converting so much as a bitcent to usd.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i'm simply used to seeing that phrase as shorthand for 'it's ok for me to utterly fuck this up, right, because results couldn't possibly be important, aha?' ☟︎
lobbes: I wouldn't add much value, but I'd work for free as an extra set of hands/eyes. You'd still need someone that knew what they were doing, of course. Plus I wouldn't be available 24/7 so maybe I'd be no use lol